July 26, 2024 • 9 mins
Newstalk ZB Weekend Sport host Jason Pine and sports commentator Andrew Gourdie joined Heather du Plessis-Allan for the Sports Huddle.
The Football Ferns’ 2-1 loss to Canada has been mired in controversy, after the Canadians were found to have used drones to spy on the team’s training.
The All Blacks Sevens’ Olympic campaign has ended before the opening ceremony, after losing to South Africa 14-7 in the quarterfinals, leaving them to settle for the fifth placed playoff.
After three months, Jason reveals more about how his interview with Scott Robertson was finally arranged after three months in the making.
And the trio discuss New Zealand's Olympic medal prospects ahead of tomorrow's opening ceremony.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
What are all right?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
At Paris twenty twenty four, they opened with victory over
Guinea in Nice, New Zealand's Go Metal hopes are over
and the Man Simmons full time in sat At the end,
Canada proved there slightly better at the game of football
than they are at the game of I spy.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
With me on the Sports Tattle we have Jason pine
news talk ZBI Weekend's sport hosts and Andrew Gordy sports commentator.
Are you sue, hello, Piney, can't I can't hear that
music and not get excited and feel slightly emotional.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Start running down a beach and bare feet it is?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I mean, don't you get a little bit hopes?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Of course this is me you're talking to.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, Now, Gordy, do we want the Canadians to have
their points docked?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I want points dot I want all of it. I
want them kicked out of the competition, absolutely all about
I know you, Gordy.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
That's extreme.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Are you not just saying that, Gordy? You actually mean that?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Hither this is the Olympic Games we're talking about. This
is meant to be the pinnacle events for integrity, honesty, sportsmanship,
and that has gone completely out the window in this instant.
So yes, I want them kicked out of the competition.
Why shouldn't they?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, well, Piney, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I agree?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Unfortunately, those virtues that Andrew talks about and that we
all admire and in our sports people, they exited a
long time ago from the Olympic Games unfortunately. So look,
you know, fast to higher, stronger. They didn't didn't fly
it high enough, did they to avoid detection?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
This Gordy.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Listen. The thing that's complicated about it, though, is who has, like,
under whose purview does this fall? Is it FIFA or
is it the IOC.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, that's murky waters, There isn't that. And I suspect
they will both stand there and point the finger at
each other other and say, hey, this is your problem. No,
this is your problem. We won't fix it now. We'll
sort it out after the event when it's far too late,
especially for the football team.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean, because if it's FIFA, Piney that's staying in competition. Up,
they're getting a round of applause for cheating, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm not sure about that, but they do tend to
work at glacial speed. These two organizations, and I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
To negotiate who's going to pay them the most money.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Well maybe that's it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But see, they have to act quickly, and they won't
because if they're going to dock points, that'll effect obviously
the Olympic competition. It's only run over about ten days.
They've got to act now or not at all, because.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Pony, you cannot have a scenario where you have got
the cheating Canadians, recidivus cheats standing on the podium.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Can you we might have that? We might well have that.
That's one absolutely possible outcome. Oh it's Canada. This morning
they were okay, you know, in a footballing sense, but
you're right, we might have some medalists who have been
found to be in their men's and women's program to
be endemic droners.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I'm just digging all the dad jokes today, Gordy. I
don't know about you. Gordy. Listen on the sevens, like
this is bad juju right right at the start.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, it's not great, it's not great, but I'll be
honest with that. I'm not going to lose any sleepover.
I mean, sevens rugby is like to twenty cricket and
obviously we're seeing what happened to the Black Cats this
year's World Cup. It's not that these sorts of results
can happen in this format of the game. Yeah, and
the dice didn't roll their way this time. Very un
said obviously for the all black Stevens. But you know
(03:13):
it's called a final defeat. It's the Olympic Games. This
is what happens.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, what do you reckonpony?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, I'll still cheerladly for our women and I think
they are a really good metal chants. But yeah, it
feels as though the men's game, more than the women's
game is just is so fraught with possibility of something
like this happening because it's so tight. So difficulty is
is they've got to stay there now and compete for
the you know, the bracket of whatever it is, nine
to twelve.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, it's the day out.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
You just go to the opening ceremony and get absolutely sloshed.
Wouldn't You wouldn't care, would you?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I think you probably would you.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
This is that's for me.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
For me, want this is why we're not athletes. You
and I all three of us or three of us? Ok,
what are our best chance meddlers do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Oh yeah, look, good question. I mean I think everyone's
going to be looking to lead to Carrington, right. I
was sort of pondering, actually, how many medals we might
might win gold and collectively across the entire thing. I know,
obviously we did exceedingly well at the last Olympic Games,
were what was it seven gold medals twenty overall out
our greatest ever whore. I don't know that I can
(04:15):
quite expect that many this time. But yeah, we're going
to be looking to the usual suspect, and I don't know,
I have some quiet hopes perhaps with the likes of
some of our cyclists, possibly even Hamish Curves. But yeah,
I think I'm looking forward to seeing some surprises come
out of this Olympic Games for the New Zealand team
as well.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
In terms pinty of where the games have sat in
the past historically is going to Is this looking to
be one of the great ones? Middling, not so great?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I guess we'll have to wait till the end to
find out. In terms of New Zealand participation in success, Yeah,
Andrew's absolutely right. I don't I think twenty is a
bridge too far. I don't think we'll get twenty. I
think it'll be in the teens somewhere. And like Andrew,
I just love the surprises the people you don't expect
to middle always a yeah yeah. But I just to
chuck out a word for Hayden Wild. I think he's
a real chance on the means training.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, that's that seems like consensus.
All Right, we'll take a break and then when we
come back, Piney, you're gonna have to explain to us
how you manage, like how much did you pay the
All Blacks to come on your show? Like you're running
some sort of a FIFA thing, right, you're back with
the Sportshttle got Andrew, Gordy and Jason Pine all right, Piney,
so tell us how long you people had to beg
the All Blacks in order to get raised.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
On the show. Wow, yeah, I love. That's what I
love about this segment is you come and read hot?
Yeah don't you? You did?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Look This is obviously with reference to to Shane's colum
and the and the hair all around the difficulty of
access to the All Blacks.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
It did take us a while, but three months, but
I but I peel it all back.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And I think to myself, Okay, we got this forty
five minutes to an hour on the radio with Scott
robertson which was you know?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Which was? I thought?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Anyway, and the feedback we've got a terrific hour of radio.
What goes what goes? Yeah, but what goes into it?
It's often I often say that you shouldn't in an
hour industry. What goes on the air, the thirty seconds
or sixty seconds that goes on the air is worth
the hours and hours that go and to get in
it on the air.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
No, but poney, you shouldn't have to beg them for
three months to come on the show. They should be
wanting to go on the sports radio show in the
country because they are now fighting. It's not the nineteen seventies.
They are fighting against our distraction being Netflix, the Warriors,
all the stuff that all concerts and towns and stuff like,
We've got a thousand different things to do instead of
(06:20):
watching the All Blacks. They should begging you for three months.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
We did, just to be feel just to be clear,
we didn't beg them to come on. We asked them.
We kept on, We kept on requesting, we kept on requesting.
I suppose that is bigging in a way, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Jee? Good?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Am?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I am hyperactive about this? Or is this fair?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No? Okay, So I've got two things to say about this.
I think what Mike has said about this is fair,
But I would honestly say it's better now than it
probably has ever been. I think what you're saying either,
I think New Zealand Rugby and their media people actually
understand that point of view better than they ever have before.
So look for Hosking if you can't get it all
(06:59):
back on the show. He needs to build some relationships.
He needs to get down to their level. Trade in
the Ferrari for a forward ranger, go fishing with scooda bad,
go surfing with Razor. I mean, wouldn't we love to
see that? I mean, you know, he's got to come
down to the level. I think, what are you ad Gordy?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I mean, I kind of love what you're saying, but
also I do want to say it's true.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know it's true.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You should be gagging, like if you are out there
competing with everybody else, you should be you should be
slipping him backhanders to get on his show. Do you
know what I mean? Not being like a lamb gee
was anyway? You know, all power to them. Listen, Gordy,
there's been this brujha in the netbull about you know,
someone using the word feral.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Is that really that big a deal.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's not a big deal. And I love it because
Frankly here that you and I bug and we've spoken
on this very stegment about the challenges that nipple is
facing for relevance in this day and age, You and
I and Piney would not be talking about knickball on
the show if Mary Angelaney Hoshik hadn't used the word
feral to describe an opposition defense. So I want more
of it. I want more the more you know, hot
(08:02):
mics for these teams. And not only that, I want
Mary Angelaty Hoshe to come out and tell us exactly
who she thinks is sperrial. Give us more narrative, give
us more things to talk about. Don't hide away from
this stuff. Sport needs to embrace these sorts of you know,
an inverted Commas controversies because that's what's going to fuel
interesting sports.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, the fly on the wall stuff is what people
are watching now. It is getting the insight that we've
never had before. Hot mic them all up.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, totally. Maybe if we hot mic up the all
Blacks and then just clip it together for Mike Hoskin's show.
What do you think? Well, I'm just trying to help them.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I mean, hot MIC's for the hot mic.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh, he doesn't need any more of an eg boost.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Come on, as we finish with a dad joke. Guys,
thank you so much appreciated. Go and enjoy the opening
ceremony in the Olympics. How good is it going to be?
That's Andrew Gordy, sports commentator and Jason Pine. News Talk
Z'BI weekend sport hosts.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drave, Listen live to
News Talks ZIB from four pm weekdays.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
What are all right?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
At Paris twenty twenty four, they opened with victory over
Guinea in Nice, New Zealand's Go Metal hopes are over
and the Man Simmons full time in sat At the end,
Canada proved there slightly better at the game of football
than they are at the game of I spy.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
With me on the Sports Tattle we have Jason pine
news talk ZBI Weekend's sport hosts and Andrew Gordy sports commentator.
Are you sue, hello, Piney, can't I can't hear that
music and not get excited and feel slightly emotional.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Start running down a beach and bare feet it is?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I mean, don't you get a little bit hopes?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Of course this is me you're talking to.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah, Now, Gordy, do we want the Canadians to have
their points docked?
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I want points dot I want all of it. I
want them kicked out of the competition, absolutely all about
I know you, Gordy.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
That's extreme.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Are you not just saying that, Gordy? You actually mean that?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Hither this is the Olympic Games we're talking about. This
is meant to be the pinnacle events for integrity, honesty, sportsmanship,
and that has gone completely out the window in this instant.
So yes, I want them kicked out of the competition.
Why shouldn't they?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, well, Piney, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
I agree?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Unfortunately, those virtues that Andrew talks about and that we
all admire and in our sports people, they exited a
long time ago from the Olympic Games unfortunately. So look,
you know, fast to higher, stronger. They didn't didn't fly
it high enough, did they to avoid detection?
Speaker 4 (01:34):
This Gordy.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Listen. The thing that's complicated about it, though, is who has, like,
under whose purview does this fall? Is it FIFA or
is it the IOC.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Yeah, that's murky waters, There isn't that. And I suspect
they will both stand there and point the finger at
each other other and say, hey, this is your problem. No,
this is your problem. We won't fix it now. We'll
sort it out after the event when it's far too late,
especially for the football team.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I mean, because if it's FIFA, Piney that's staying in competition. Up,
they're getting a round of applause for cheating, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I'm not sure about that, but they do tend to
work at glacial speed. These two organizations, and I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
To negotiate who's going to pay them the most money.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Well maybe that's it.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But see, they have to act quickly, and they won't
because if they're going to dock points, that'll effect obviously
the Olympic competition. It's only run over about ten days.
They've got to act now or not at all, because.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Pony, you cannot have a scenario where you have got
the cheating Canadians, recidivus cheats standing on the podium.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Can you we might have that? We might well have that.
That's one absolutely possible outcome. Oh it's Canada. This morning
they were okay, you know, in a footballing sense, but
you're right, we might have some medalists who have been
found to be in their men's and women's program to
be endemic droners.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I'm just digging all the dad jokes today, Gordy. I
don't know about you. Gordy. Listen on the sevens, like
this is bad juju right right at the start.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Yeah, it's not great, it's not great, but I'll be
honest with that. I'm not going to lose any sleepover.
I mean, sevens rugby is like to twenty cricket and
obviously we're seeing what happened to the Black Cats this
year's World Cup. It's not that these sorts of results
can happen in this format of the game. Yeah, and
the dice didn't roll their way this time. Very un
said obviously for the all black Stevens. But you know
(03:13):
it's called a final defeat. It's the Olympic Games. This
is what happens.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, what do you reckonpony?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, I'll still cheerladly for our women and I think
they are a really good metal chants. But yeah, it
feels as though the men's game, more than the women's
game is just is so fraught with possibility of something
like this happening because it's so tight. So difficulty is
is they've got to stay there now and compete for
the you know, the bracket of whatever it is, nine
to twelve.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Yeah, it's the day out.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
You just go to the opening ceremony and get absolutely sloshed.
Wouldn't You wouldn't care, would you?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:41):
I think you probably would you.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
This is that's for me.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
For me, want this is why we're not athletes. You
and I all three of us or three of us? Ok,
what are our best chance meddlers do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Oh yeah, look, good question. I mean I think everyone's
going to be looking to lead to Carrington, right. I
was sort of pondering, actually, how many medals we might
might win gold and collectively across the entire thing. I know,
obviously we did exceedingly well at the last Olympic Games,
were what was it seven gold medals twenty overall out
our greatest ever whore. I don't know that I can
(04:15):
quite expect that many this time. But yeah, we're going
to be looking to the usual suspect, and I don't know,
I have some quiet hopes perhaps with the likes of
some of our cyclists, possibly even Hamish Curves. But yeah,
I think I'm looking forward to seeing some surprises come
out of this Olympic Games for the New Zealand team
as well.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
In terms pinty of where the games have sat in
the past historically is going to Is this looking to
be one of the great ones? Middling, not so great?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I guess we'll have to wait till the end to
find out. In terms of New Zealand participation in success, Yeah,
Andrew's absolutely right. I don't I think twenty is a
bridge too far. I don't think we'll get twenty. I
think it'll be in the teens somewhere. And like Andrew,
I just love the surprises the people you don't expect
to middle always a yeah yeah. But I just to
chuck out a word for Hayden Wild. I think he's
a real chance on the means training.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, that's that seems like consensus.
All Right, we'll take a break and then when we
come back, Piney, you're gonna have to explain to us
how you manage, like how much did you pay the
All Blacks to come on your show? Like you're running
some sort of a FIFA thing, right, you're back with
the Sportshttle got Andrew, Gordy and Jason Pine all right, Piney,
so tell us how long you people had to beg
the All Blacks in order to get raised.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
On the show. Wow, yeah, I love. That's what I
love about this segment is you come and read hot?
Yeah don't you? You did?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Look This is obviously with reference to to Shane's colum
and the and the hair all around the difficulty of
access to the All Blacks.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
It did take us a while, but three months, but
I but I peel it all back.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
And I think to myself, Okay, we got this forty
five minutes to an hour on the radio with Scott
robertson which was you know?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Which was? I thought?
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Anyway, and the feedback we've got a terrific hour of radio.
What goes what goes? Yeah, but what goes into it?
It's often I often say that you shouldn't in an
hour industry. What goes on the air, the thirty seconds
or sixty seconds that goes on the air is worth
the hours and hours that go and to get in
it on the air.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
No, but poney, you shouldn't have to beg them for
three months to come on the show. They should be
wanting to go on the sports radio show in the
country because they are now fighting. It's not the nineteen seventies.
They are fighting against our distraction being Netflix, the Warriors,
all the stuff that all concerts and towns and stuff like,
We've got a thousand different things to do instead of
(06:20):
watching the All Blacks. They should begging you for three months.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
We did, just to be feel just to be clear,
we didn't beg them to come on. We asked them.
We kept on, We kept on requesting, we kept on requesting.
I suppose that is bigging in a way, isn't it?
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Jee? Good?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Am?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I am hyperactive about this? Or is this fair?
Speaker 1 (06:38):
No? Okay, So I've got two things to say about this.
I think what Mike has said about this is fair,
But I would honestly say it's better now than it
probably has ever been. I think what you're saying either,
I think New Zealand Rugby and their media people actually
understand that point of view better than they ever have before.
So look for Hosking if you can't get it all
(06:59):
back on the show. He needs to build some relationships.
He needs to get down to their level. Trade in
the Ferrari for a forward ranger, go fishing with scooda bad,
go surfing with Razor. I mean, wouldn't we love to
see that? I mean, you know, he's got to come
down to the level. I think, what are you ad Gordy?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I mean, I kind of love what you're saying, but
also I do want to say it's true.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
You know it's true.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You should be gagging, like if you are out there
competing with everybody else, you should be you should be
slipping him backhanders to get on his show. Do you
know what I mean? Not being like a lamb gee
was anyway? You know, all power to them. Listen, Gordy,
there's been this brujha in the netbull about you know,
someone using the word feral.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Is that really that big a deal.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
It's not a big deal. And I love it because
Frankly here that you and I bug and we've spoken
on this very stegment about the challenges that nipple is
facing for relevance in this day and age, You and
I and Piney would not be talking about knickball on
the show if Mary Angelaney Hoshik hadn't used the word
feral to describe an opposition defense. So I want more
of it. I want more the more you know, hot
(08:02):
mics for these teams. And not only that, I want
Mary Angelaty Hoshe to come out and tell us exactly
who she thinks is sperrial. Give us more narrative, give
us more things to talk about. Don't hide away from
this stuff. Sport needs to embrace these sorts of you know,
an inverted Commas controversies because that's what's going to fuel
interesting sports.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, the fly on the wall stuff is what people
are watching now. It is getting the insight that we've
never had before. Hot mic them all up.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah, totally. Maybe if we hot mic up the all
Blacks and then just clip it together for Mike Hoskin's show.
What do you think? Well, I'm just trying to help them.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I mean, hot MIC's for the hot mic.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Oh, he doesn't need any more of an eg boost.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Come on, as we finish with a dad joke. Guys,
thank you so much appreciated. Go and enjoy the opening
ceremony in the Olympics. How good is it going to be?
That's Andrew Gordy, sports commentator and Jason Pine. News Talk
Z'BI weekend sport hosts.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drave, Listen live to
News Talks ZIB from four pm weekdays.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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