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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm the huddle with me this evening, Ali Jones of
Red pr and Matt Heath, Hoduki's breakfast host. Hell are
you too?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Good day?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Okay, So it's not Windy and Wellington, which means key
we rails explanation for why the fairy crash just bs?
What's going on that?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I don't know?
Speaker 4 (00:21):
I heard you saying before that you think that they're
just ramming it into things to try and make their
point that they need to replace you one. You probably
need a bit more evidence than just a speculation on that.
I mean, how does your career go once you've rammed
a fairy into theory?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Is as good? My explanation is as good as it's
Wellington and Windy? Allie, what are you reckons going on here?
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Well?
Speaker 5 (00:42):
I think that's not a bad explanation, actually, Heath. I mean,
if you've got a crappy car, if you want to
get rid of it, just dig it a few times
and then you know the rest is straightforward.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Insurance job.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Is that what you think it's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
They could well be that takes a bit of guts
to ram a fury over your ideological beliefs into it.
If that's the case, then I've got a slight amount
of admiration for the ketna.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Just yeah, the bulls that's going on there, Hey, Ellie.
I would like my teachers. I'd like the teachers in
this country to have done level two maths. What about you?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
I'd like the teachers in this country to have done
Level two English. I'd like the teachers in this country
to do level two on a number of things so
that they were proficient in them. I'm actually in agreement
with the Teaching Council here. I think that if you
force a level two NCAA Level two maths pass if
you like, then you need to do the same in
(01:32):
the other areas as well. I want my kids to
be able to do maths, but I also want them
to be able to communicate properly and understand the English language.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Okay, So if we take it to this logical conclusion,
do you want to have level two for everything? Or
do you just or do you not? Yeah? Well that's high.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I did think about that, And look, I don't know
what a reasonable level of teacher ability is to teach
at a primary school level. I'm not a primary school teacher.
It's been some years since I was there myself, amazing,
So so look, I would like to hear from someone
as to what they think the reasonable level, you know,
across those subjects is. I can't answer that, Heather.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, what do you reckon?
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Matt?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
I think some people in the education sector have coalition
derangement syndrome. So anything that the government sees, even if
it's great and they normally agree with it, like teachers
need to be good at teaching, they'll disagree with it.
And you know what, all these people that say are
experts in education, are they the people that are currently
making the decisions? And is the current system that they've created,
because the system that we've got now doesn't seem to
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be that great, doesn't.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
No, that's a very good point. And you know, Ali, actually,
why would we I mean, why not have the most
skilled of most available and skilled people teaching the primary
school kids? Why not go for level two?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:44):
Okay, well if level yeah, but if level two is
the right level, you can't just unilaterally pluck a level
out of the air and go Yeah. That's the one
that I think is applicable. I don't know about that.
You don't know about that. I'd love to hear from
someone who does know about that. And of course we've
got to have the best people. But you know, we
all know people that like numbers, and do you want
that to be the measure As far as the personality
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and diversity of the people teaching kids, I don't really.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Care about the personality and the diversity.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
So I know, I want someone to be inspirational. I
want them to be able to communicate. Well, I want
them to be nice.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Taking you to Yeah, well, here's an argument for going
for level two, Matt. At the moment, I think you
only need something like ten credits at level one. That's
obviously not enough, so let's go for level two.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
But that thing that you've got to have these amazing
teachers that do all the stuff, it's the dead poet
society thing. I never had a good teacher in the
entire time I was there that aspired me.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And look where you are.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I am in real butlish authors. I'm real brainy, real brainy.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, well, how did you manage if you didn't have
good teachers?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Well, I mean I had teachers that were that taught me,
But I didn't have anything with great personalities, particularly that
were inspirational and made me wanting to perform a dead
poet society.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, and scream up a DMA them.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, fair enough. Okay, guys, we'll take a break and
come back very shortly the Huddle.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
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Speaker 2 (04:09):
Right, you're back with the HUD. I've got Matt Heath
and Alie Jones. Matt, I reckon. The Aussies have taken
luxe and slur pretty well, haven't they?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Yeah, is it a slur?
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Haven't we been just making jokes about Australians for absolutely ever?
And Joe, it's a joke, So people should stop pretending
like it's not a joke and that you're not allowed
to make jokes about Australians. It's a little brother making
a joke about his big brother.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's fine.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I've got a theory really that there reason got lots
of theories to that. I've got a theory that the
reason that we make jokes about Australians is because we're
actually jealous of them. Oh I hear that. I think
us richer than us, and they're more confident than us
and older than us, and their tanks better.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
Do you really want that accent? I mean even just
the accent, it's just, oh, my dear god. No, I
think that he's right. This is almost you know, I
write a passage, you make jokes where competitive take the McKey,
So put that aside. I do think it was silly
and unnecessary removing today from that invitation. I mean, just
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put the English in brackets, but it's a bit tone deaf,
and again it's created.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
I don't even reckon you need to put the English
in brackets. I mean, everybody knows when you get an invitation,
the first few words be they kureder or a loha
or gooday, just mean hello. The last few words before
comma Paul Goldsmith mean by and come on outseiet or
you know what that means? Right he did?
Speaker 5 (05:28):
No, I know you be consistent and as I agree
with Luxan, I think they need all the help that
they can get, and I think putting it in English
is absolutely the least you could do. What's really stupid
about this, Heather is I mean, this was an invitation
to an event, marking the start of Marin New Year.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I mean, could you be more tone deaf?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, I mean it's interesting that people think that you
do read invitations between governments, like it's not handed to
them by someone underneath them that tells on what's going on.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Like he's sitting there going what is this? Where is this?
Are we going to this? If you get another I
don't understand it.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah. The only thing you look at is who it's from,
what it's to, and what the date is in the
start time.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
And it just didn't arrive on its own, like a
vacuuming you open it.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
What's this that there would have been a calling, a discussion,
that will been an organization about it.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
So I'm sure it's I think you're assuming.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
I think you're assuming more actually than happened. I suspect
that it goes straight into a diary. I don't think
that the actual person that's been invited ever gets to
see the invitation.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Yeah, well exactly, that's exactly what I'm saying. I don't
think it even. I don't think that they're making a
decision based on reading the invitation.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
So I said just exactly what Ali said at the
start of the program, Matt, which was that he should
never have taken out his cause to all kinds of trouble.
He didn't need to. It was just a silly thing
to do. And I have been called woke as a result,
I have you, which I think we all knew that
I was woke. Though, what's your take on it?
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
I mean, I don't think it's as big as an
issue as anyone's making it. But does seem like he's
making problems himself they didn't need to make to bloody.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Right, Alie. Seems like a bad idea to have walked
out of that council meeting today because by my calculations,
if Diane Calvin and Ben MacNulty and whoever in Wellington
had stayed there, they would have won the vote.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
No, I don't know whether that's the case, hearing what
Diane said before, and the other thing that I found
interesting from what she said here, and this might be
in the standing orders for the Wellington City Council, it's
certainly not in the standing orders for christ Church. She
was saying that you either vote yes, no or walk out. Now,
what you can do in christ Church is you can
vote yes no, or you can abstain. Now, what I'd
(07:34):
really like to know from her is the abstention not
an is not an option in Wellington? And do you
have to walk out? So look until she answers that
I can't. I mean, on the face of it, it
looks childish walking out. But if it's actually part of
the standing orders that you have no choice, then well
they had no choice. But I'd like to know that
slam dunk, isn't it Matt. If you have a choice
of raised pedestri in crossing or not, the answer is
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always not.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Oh yeah, absolutely got to get rid of the terrible Absolutely,
But seem funny if you the options were yes, no,
or you actually have to physically walk out.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
You don't just say I'm mistained, like.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
We need to check this che because if you actually
have to stand up, and then it's strange we'll see
little knaves or.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
Voice saying that information we're walking out, then that seems
like the system that they could probably streamline a little bit.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
I agree with you guys. Listen, it was wonderful to
have you on. Thank you so much, Matt.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Matt.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
I finished your book, did you I really enjoyed it?
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Oh, thank you for saying that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Are you just constantly's in Oh yeah, I'm a pretty
chill guy, are you yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Amazing, No, not at all. But I aspire to be
more children all of the.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Stuff that you because it's very handy, stuff like count
to ten before you have a tantrum at child, which
I could have done with last night, frankly, etcetera, etcetera.
You're still putting into practice.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Oh yeah, absolutely, it's it's an ideal to aim for.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
You know, it's a north star and you if you
get there more often than you're not, they're not than
you're winning in life, I believe.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Oh thank you. Oh well, it's a really good book,
highly recommended. I'm going to buy it for the husband
because I'm trying to get him to count to ten
as well.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
Say the name of it Heather Lifeless Punishing Thirteen Ways
to Love your life You've Got by.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
My life Less Punishing Thirteen Ways to Love the Life
that You've Got by Matt Heath. I will just say
there are a lot of your friends who've written all
the little bits on it, like Jeremy Wells and Ursula
Carlson and Karen.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Reid, and so would you do one would you do
a little line for the next edition. Yes, I the
sixth editions coming out soon and I get your recommendation
on it.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Look yeah, sure, I mean to be in the same
company as Kieren Read. I will thank you anyway. You go, well,
look after yourself. That's Matt Heath of Hodaki and obviously
Ali Jones of Freed Power Huddle this evening.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
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