As the current energy crisis worsens, Labour is holding steady on its promise to bring back the oil and gas ban again.
The Government has recently agreed to remove hurdles for gas imports, speed up overturning the ban on oil and gas exploration - and will review the electricity market's performance.
ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper says a bi-partisan solution is needed to draw investors into the country.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Barriso Per, Senior political correspondence with us. Hey Barry, good afternoon.
Have you reckon labor softening it stance on this span?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, there was an interesting exchange in the House this afternoon. No,
the listeners can probably read what they will into it.
But there is in terms of security that any investor
in this country has to have. And a point that
was made by the offshore wind developer Blue Float Energy
then New Zealand Manager Nathan Turner. He said that New Zealand,
(00:29):
if it wants to encourage investment, it needs a bipartisan
energy plan. Now that's been said time and time again
in parliament now as he said that frequent changes and
policy from one election to another is certainly not helpful
to encourage investment into this country. Well, Resources Minister Shane
(00:49):
Jones was again at his lyrical best in Parliament this afternoon.
But did get I think something of an undertaking from
Chris Sipkins that any contract any entered into by this
government will be honored by a government led by him.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Have a listened, Well, what is happening with this house
that the beauty of language and robust expressions suddenly are
turning the other side?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Into sobs.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It is a very bleak day that members of this
House feel they have the right to threaten and further
undermine sovereign risk of investment. There has been no claim
on this side of the House that we would cancel
contracts already entered into.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So hold on that's not true though.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, no it's not. Now what's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
One of their mp was Rachel Brooking, well said that
they would do that.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's not only her, there was the Greens. They'll be
part of any future coalition government and they've vehemently opposed
to any certainly lifting of the oil and gas band,
but any contract I would imagine being honored beyond that.
So and James Shaw last November he was saying that
(01:56):
even if there was a viable fine, production is unlikely
to begin in the three years of this government, six
or even nine years and after that who knows. So
they're still muddying the water, the Greens. But I think
certainly maybe Chris Hipkins has moved towards well maybe giving
(02:18):
the investors a better steer.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Where they may have some wiggle room. Is that Rachel Brooking,
who's the environment spokesperson, did not say that they would
revoke consents as far as I can see, she said
that they would consider that and that there would be
on a case by case basis. So she left the
door open, which is basically like close enough for.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Awkins is basically saying any contract that entered in two
will be hon it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, interesting stuff. Hey, So Shane Jones, remember he labeled
that High Court judge of communists.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
He has been a busy boy in partners today.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, twist in this story, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well, it's interesting because the High Court judge question is
just justice Sheryl Gwynn. Now she recently awarded the customary
title to Maldi and that's caused all sorts of problems
at the moment that Jones said he couldn't remember the
context of what he said when he initially called her
(03:11):
a communist, but he said political rhetoric that goes without
saying politicians do that. But in the House, Chris Luxen
faced questions from Chris Sipkins over the independence of the
judiciary from Parliament, where the Jones comments were inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Jane Jones renewed as attacks last week, calling a High
Court judge a communist. Matter of fact, you'd have to
ask the Minister about that, But what I'd say is
that he was being descriptive, not critical. Is it acceptable
for a minister in his government to describe a judge
as a communist?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
The comments are descriptive, not critical. That's exactly what has
happens on the public record.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
They may not have been the words that I'd use,
but he's perfectly free to do so as the Prime Minister.
Surprised that the leader of the Labor Party believes common
in just a critical term.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, Well, the fact is that Justice Quinn once belonged
to the Socialist Action League. I've looked that up. That
particular league. It renamed itself in the late eighties to
the Communist League. She had been a member of it,
and she was appointed to the High Bench by David
(04:26):
Parker in twenty nineteen. But the irony in all of
this story here that to me is that she was
also appointed as an Inspected General of Intelligence and Security.
So the head spy in this country as a communist
in two thousand was a Communist.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh how good is that?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But that was appointed by the NATS of course, So
you know, she's had an interesting career.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So Shane Jones gets away with that one because it
was as a statement of facts. Does has you liking
Phase two of the COVID inquiry?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, it's interesting, isn't it, Because we're not through phase
one yet. That will finish in November when Tony Blakeley,
who the question marks raised over the epidemiologist who is
in Australia. They'll finish up.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And then the new loss come what happened?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So you're going to have to me it's going to
be quite interesting, two quite separate reports and the terms
of reference for the second phase is what could be
much more critical of the government than the first?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
The former government?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
The former government.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yes, I just speak, that's exactly what's going to happen.
Barry Thank you, Always appreciated Barry so but senior political correspondent.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Barriso Per, Senior political correspondence with us. Hey Barry, good afternoon.
Have you reckon labor softening it stance on this span?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Well, there was an interesting exchange in the House this afternoon. No,
the listeners can probably read what they will into it.
But there is in terms of security that any investor
in this country has to have. And a point that
was made by the offshore wind developer Blue Float Energy
then New Zealand Manager Nathan Turner. He said that New Zealand,
(00:29):
if it wants to encourage investment, it needs a bipartisan
energy plan. Now that's been said time and time again
in parliament now as he said that frequent changes and
policy from one election to another is certainly not helpful
to encourage investment into this country. Well, Resources Minister Shane
(00:49):
Jones was again at his lyrical best in Parliament this afternoon.
But did get I think something of an undertaking from
Chris Sipkins that any contract any entered into by this
government will be honored by a government led by him.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Have a listened, Well, what is happening with this house
that the beauty of language and robust expressions suddenly are
turning the other side?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Into sobs.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
It is a very bleak day that members of this
House feel they have the right to threaten and further
undermine sovereign risk of investment. There has been no claim
on this side of the House that we would cancel
contracts already entered into.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
So hold on that's not true though.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, no it's not. Now what's going on?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
One of their mp was Rachel Brooking, well said that
they would do that.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It's not only her, there was the Greens. They'll be
part of any future coalition government and they've vehemently opposed
to any certainly lifting of the oil and gas band,
but any contract I would imagine being honored beyond that.
So and James Shaw last November he was saying that
(01:56):
even if there was a viable fine, production is unlikely
to begin in the three years of this government, six
or even nine years and after that who knows. So
they're still muddying the water, the Greens. But I think
certainly maybe Chris Hipkins has moved towards well maybe giving
(02:18):
the investors a better steer.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Where they may have some wiggle room. Is that Rachel Brooking,
who's the environment spokesperson, did not say that they would
revoke consents as far as I can see, she said
that they would consider that and that there would be
on a case by case basis. So she left the
door open, which is basically like close enough for.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Awkins is basically saying any contract that entered in two
will be hon it.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, interesting stuff. Hey, So Shane Jones, remember he labeled
that High Court judge of communists.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
He has been a busy boy in partners today.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, twist in this story, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well, it's interesting because the High Court judge question is
just justice Sheryl Gwynn. Now she recently awarded the customary
title to Maldi and that's caused all sorts of problems
at the moment that Jones said he couldn't remember the
context of what he said when he initially called her
(03:11):
a communist, but he said political rhetoric that goes without
saying politicians do that. But in the House, Chris Luxen
faced questions from Chris Sipkins over the independence of the
judiciary from Parliament, where the Jones comments were inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Jane Jones renewed as attacks last week, calling a High
Court judge a communist. Matter of fact, you'd have to
ask the Minister about that, But what I'd say is
that he was being descriptive, not critical. Is it acceptable
for a minister in his government to describe a judge
as a communist?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
The comments are descriptive, not critical. That's exactly what has
happens on the public record.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
They may not have been the words that I'd use,
but he's perfectly free to do so as the Prime Minister.
Surprised that the leader of the Labor Party believes common
in just a critical term.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, Well, the fact is that Justice Quinn once belonged
to the Socialist Action League. I've looked that up. That
particular league. It renamed itself in the late eighties to
the Communist League. She had been a member of it,
and she was appointed to the High Bench by David
(04:26):
Parker in twenty nineteen. But the irony in all of
this story here that to me is that she was
also appointed as an Inspected General of Intelligence and Security.
So the head spy in this country as a communist
in two thousand was a Communist.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Oh how good is that?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But that was appointed by the NATS of course, So
you know, she's had an interesting career.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
So Shane Jones gets away with that one because it
was as a statement of facts. Does has you liking
Phase two of the COVID inquiry?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Well, it's interesting, isn't it, Because we're not through phase
one yet. That will finish in November when Tony Blakeley,
who the question marks raised over the epidemiologist who is
in Australia. They'll finish up.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
And then the new loss come what happened?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So you're going to have to me it's going to
be quite interesting, two quite separate reports and the terms
of reference for the second phase is what could be
much more critical of the government than the first?
Speaker 1 (05:26):
The former government?
Speaker 2 (05:27):
The former government.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yes, I just speak, that's exactly what's going to happen.
Barry Thank you, Always appreciated Barry so but senior political correspondent.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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