Full Show Podcast: 05 September 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's Heather Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New Zealand Let's
get connected.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
You stalk said, be.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
A good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up shortly,
We've got the Prime Minister with us out of South
Korea in just a few minutes. The All Blacks team
is going to be named It five, So we're going
to go to South Africa. Have a chat to Alliot
Smith about who is in and who is out and
water care. It's going to be on the show later
on to explain that secret twenty million dollar deal with
White cuple Thaiinui. Heather Duplicy Ellen, let's talk about Reagun.

(00:34):
I watched the project's big interview with Raygun. This is
her first big interview and having watched that, this is
Raygun the Braid breakdowns from Australia. By the way, having
watched that, I think is pretty clear you should not
waste any of your emotions feeling sorry for Reagan, because
Reagan is not feeling sorry for herself yet. She is
making the most out of this situation big time. I mean,

(00:55):
the natural inclination obviously is to feel sorry for her.
Because she completely embarrassed herself jumping around like a kangaroo
on the Olympics stage, and she's since been the subject
of quite a massive global pile on on social media
and countless jokes at her expense, and even some accusations
that she'd rigged her entry into the Olympics, which do
seem to be unfounded, but she does not seem particularly

(01:16):
ground down by the situation at all. On the contrary,
in that interview last night, she seems to be kind
of enjoying the ride. She said, yep, absolutely there will
have There have been some tough times, and I'm sure
there will have been. But on the other hand, she's
quite enjoying getting messages from the likes of Richard Branson
telling her that he thought her performance was plucky and
that he would like to go her to go on

(01:36):
some cruises with boy George, of all people, as she says,
what is life and that, by the way, is the
least of what is going right for Raygun At the moment,
she's already signed up with a talent management agency. She
is apparently the subject of a fierce bidding war between
TV networks who want to sign her, and apparently Dancing
with the Stars for obvious reasons, are desperate to get

(01:56):
her on the show. She's been the subject of a
skit on Jimmy Fallon's Adal has mentioned her on stage.
She has been in so many international newspapers now that
I've actually completely lost count. She would, I reckon if
she would be one of the most famous athletes to
have emerged from the Paris Olympics, if not currently the
most famous athlete. I actually admire her, if I have

(02:18):
to be completely honest with you, because she is delivering
to us right now a masterclass in how to handle
online abuse and attention. Take the lemons, make some lemonade.
All too often people sit at home in a dark room,
they go on to the Twitter, they read the trolls,
they let it grind them down, and they go in
the media and they wine about how sad life is.
Raygun's not doing that. Raygun is milking this for all

(02:40):
it is worth. She understands the value of what's happening
to her right now and got on her for that.
So do not feel sorry for Raygun. Raygun may have
lost at the Olympics, but I'll tell you what she
is winning it life after the Olympics.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Isn't she ever do? For see Allen nine hers.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
The text and I've got some. I've got some, got
some of the best bits for you. I'll play it
for you shortly now. Prime Minister is beating the trade
drum again on his ninth trip overseas since coming into office.
He's on a mission to double trade in the next
ten years. Spent two days in Malaysia, the first visit
by a New Zealand Prome minister there since twenty fifteen,
and he's currently in South Korea with trade and security
high on the agenda, and Christopher Luxin's with us.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Now, Hey, Chris, get a here.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
They?

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Well? Thank you?

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Do you know what I've noticed about your trip is
that there's hardly any media coverage of it. What's going on?

Speaker 6 (03:26):
Well, all I know is I'm going from meeting to meeting,
meeting with investors and he got a business delegation. I've
been doing a bunch of deals while i've been here,
both in Malaysia and Korea, so i haven't been paying
too much attention to media attention on it. I'm just
getting on and getting the job done, which is that
we have to get rich, and we've got to get
rich by selling more stuff to people around the southeast
Vita region for rich.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Chris, who've you got which media? Who's who from the
media contingent are on the trip with you?

Speaker 6 (03:53):
We've got TVs there with us on this trip and
they were with me today when I was at at DMC.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
We've got been at Hollow and that's it.

Speaker 6 (04:02):
I think that's in the delegation. Yes, he's traveling on
us in the dolengation.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Okay, use lying commercial, Yes I am. Well, there's your problem,
isn't it. You haven't subsidized the media to come on
the trip with you, so they don't want to pay.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
Well, look, I mean I'm able to talk directly to
the New Zealanders through something called social media, which is
a novel idea, but it seems to work and talk
straight to them and tell them exactly what I'm doing.
So I think people at home understand why I'm here
that and why I am here is because you know,
New Zealand needs to become much wealthier. We do want
to double our exports. We do want to attract investment
to New Zealand to get out roads built, to get

(04:36):
a lot of infrastructure built in the country, and you know,
that's my job is to make sure that we are
making people aware that we are open for business and
we want to be able to work with them and
deep in those relationships.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Has the fairy issue come up in South Korea?

Speaker 6 (04:50):
No, not at all, because you know, you've got to remember,
a career is a two point seven trillion dollar economy
and ultimately that's a dispute between two commercial ent you know,
it's results.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
It's obviously sensitive enough for our ambassador there to have
to tell a high level diplomat beforehand, right, So, like,
are you telling me absolutely? No, one's mentioned it at all.

Speaker 6 (05:10):
No, I hasn't come up in conversation whatsoever. And it's
not something that I've proactively raised either. It's something that
you know, that can be raised through contractual arrangements and
contracts that exists between Korean firm and a New Zealand firm,
and they're quite capable of sorting that out.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
Hey, how are you going to make us rich out
of South Korea?

Speaker 6 (05:28):
Well, look, I mean there's huge opportunities here. I mean
even yesterday I talked to President Un and we agreed
to remove some what are called non tariff barriers that
exists between our two countries. And so you know, five
different dairy type of products that have been difficult to
sell in Korea. We've been able to free that up.
The same with things like blueberries and you know, even

(05:48):
just those little things. You know, that's fifteen million dollars
worth of value to New Zealand each and every year.
We've agreed to look at upgrading our FTA agreement over
the course of next year, which is important to make
sure that we've got really settings the New Zealand growers
and producers and those of tech firms look renewable energy,
but also in advanced aviation and space opportunities for New

(06:10):
Zealand as well. So you know, it's really about us understanding. Look,
you know, we do not get wealthy in a small
country selling stuff to each other. We need to get
out in the world and hustle. And that's why I've
had it so hard in my first year, because I
really and I've got Winston Peter's out there on the
planes a lot. I've got Trade Minister and the Clay
out there. I've got Defense Minister Colins.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Out there as well.

Speaker 6 (06:30):
Expect the four of us to lift our intensity and
our urgency and our relationships because we have to convert
opportunity for New Zealand people, and that means trade. And
we know when New Zealand firms are exporting, they are
able to pay much higher wages as a consequence because
they're doing better than those that aren't exporting. And so
it's a really important thing that I do everything I

(06:50):
can to set the conditions and the set up right.
We've got I think twenty two outstanding business leaders here
from a range of sectors across the economy and as
yesterday there and you know, we signed ten deals between
Korean and New Zellan companies. We did similarly similar activity
in Malaysia as well, So all of that is incredibly
positive in Malaysia. You know, just by showing up talking

(07:11):
to the Prime Minister and the officials, you know, I said, well, look,
you know, we want to sell red meat into Malaysia.
It's very difficult at the moment with halal regulations and
bureaucracy on your side. We need to get that sort
of Prime Minister and we both committed that, you know,
in the next two months we would make our officials,
particularly on the Malaysian side actually get that job done
so we can get red meat flowing into Malaysia.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Did I hear that you saw one of those rubbish
balloons being launched by North Korea today?

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (07:36):
I have to be honestly that it was really interesting
today because you know, we live in a pretty benign
environment in the South Pacific, but you know up here
in you know, you've got North Korea on your border.
And so I went to the DMZ this morning, and
if you think about it, you know, the Korean War finished,
but actually essentially a ceasefire was maintained or through an armistice,
and we've had peacekeeping troops here on the ground. In fact,

(07:59):
I've called the resources over thecoming year will happen as well.
But essentially, as we were standing there on the DMZAH
balloon went up with rubbish bags attached to it. And
that's North Korea sending trash in to South Korea.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
And they're weird and Jesus is like stuff you do
at school.

Speaker 6 (08:16):
Yeah, a lot of it's irrational and it doesn't make
a lot of sense. But what does make sense is
that you very clearly the message I've been trying to
communicate over the course of this year. Is that that security,
peace and stability relatively we've had on the Korean peninsula
rather than a hot war or hot conflict, has meant
that South Korea has grown into the fourteenth largest economy
in the world. New Zealand has doubled our trade with

(08:37):
South Korea in the last nine years. And so you
cannot have economic prosperity without security and peace and stability.
And that's why I keep saying in twenty twenty four,
security and economic interest are inextricably linked. And that's why
you've got be able to talk both of those conversations
at the same time.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
What's up with Elon Musk's love affair with you?

Speaker 6 (08:59):
I thought that, yeah, yeah, one of my kids told
me that.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
But he follows you on Twitter. Now did you see that?

Speaker 6 (09:05):
Anyone who's supported of us, that's great. So I take
support from anyone. But more importantly, I'm just focused on
the job and getting things done.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Listen, why don't you milk that for us? Like Elon Musk?
I mean, he's about dodgy, but he's got heaps of money,
so have a chair.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
Well, I've got to do the business here in South Korea,
so we'll be focused on that trade. Make sure we
grow New Zealand. That's what it's got to be about.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Trade trip, job done, Trade trip to Elon's house next day.
Thank you very much, Christopher appreciated. Look after yourself as
Christopher lux and the Prime minister who's over in South
Korea at the moment. Over in Australia. Bill Shorten's just
done a Grant Robertson, hasn't. He's the former Labor leader
who wanted to be Prime minister and never made it
because you know, lots of reasons. But anyway, he's done
a Grant Robertson. He's quitting politics. He's announced today is
going to be the next vice chancellor of a university,

(09:50):
in his case, the University of Canberra. So Olli Peterson
will be with us in about half an hour's time.
We'll talk to him about it. Seventeen past four.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Digging deeper into the day's headline, it's hither duplicy allan
drive with one New Zealand one giant leap for business.
Used talks that'd be sport with the new tab app
downloaded today are eighteen bed responsibly Darcy.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Watergrade sports coasters with us.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
It's a fine idea to be it responsibly. It's a
brilliant idea. You've got to be over eighteen. And if
you're keen on having a whirl. What do you think
about this New Zealand paying two dollars fifty to beat
South Africa who are paying a dollar fifty. That's more
than a long favorite.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
No, No, that's wrong, I think. I mean, really, you
take you take your rods. But I reckon, we're going
to win this one, okay, don't you.

Speaker 7 (10:39):
Well I think that like when they lost to Argentina,
I'll use this phrase embarrassed, yes, And I would say
that the all Blacks after that last fifteen minutes last
week are more of an embarrassed shane faced about the
way they saw the bed sheets awful.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
So I think we come back and thump them around.

Speaker 7 (10:56):
Well you'd like to think so. So if you're brave,
jump on thin two dollars fifty. Yeah, and you're over
eighteen and I know you'll beat responsibly. So I get
involved in that team coming out about forty minutes time,
and there's a lot of talk around the changes.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Do you think that much will change? Will?

Speaker 8 (11:12):
Will? Will?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
I mean, because the only change that I've heard that
makes much sense to me is that you pull the
likes of body off the starting lineup and put them
in for as like the bomb squad.

Speaker 7 (11:20):
And you might end up putting somebody like a Will
Jordan and at full back, which I know he likes.
And of course Robertson with his connection with the Crusaders
might see that. Yeah, because there's a chance they may
be cadle Clark might not play, which means Seva Reese
is going to have to go on Mark tahalaire you
injury Cloud. Same with the burlap sack of crank shafts.

(11:42):
Black out of the second Ethan Blackadder looks like he
might miss off. He's out there.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
There's word that.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
Floating around that maybe what I might get a run.
Who knows it's going to change. I think if those
two injuries are correct, Yeah, they're going to have to
make some adjustments. Papalliti is bad. Does he get to
come off the bench or not to Sam Cain maintain
his position? All under the shadow of rather large mountain,
which I'm sure you're familiar with in Cape Town.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Is this a geographical do you name drop just a
geographical name. Drop there. Yeah, I like, what's it like
up there?

Speaker 9 (12:17):
Have you been up there?

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Up there?

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Have you been up there?

Speaker 8 (12:20):
No?

Speaker 9 (12:20):
I haven't been to South Africa.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Oh man, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 7 (12:22):
Apparently I should go. Apparently Cape Town's a ripper. But
Johannesburg's night, don't go out.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Joe Burger is so bad, Like absolutely give it a miss.
But Cape Town is place.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
And Cape Town up the top of that table mountain?
Is that all those mad ass baboons or monkeys or
temples or whatever it.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Is, they're at the bottom there at the bottom. Because
when you're waiting in line and you've got to go
up in a cable car.

Speaker 10 (12:49):
What are they?

Speaker 9 (12:50):
Are they the cacus or are they baboon?

Speaker 7 (12:52):
There are the Boons. Boons one of my favorite cartoon characters.
I are the Boon along with I am Weasel.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
You've got to go up there. This is what you've
got to do, Darcy, and you go. You got to
go up on the cable car. You got to close
your eyes because otherwise it's going to freak you out.
But also everybody just goes and does tabletop. But you
have to climb Lion Rock as well, which is like
another one over there which you can free climb. Okay,
and that is a thing to see.

Speaker 7 (13:14):
I'm not afraid of heights. That doesn't bother me. I felt,
oh parachuted, I've none, man, None of that bothers me.
I'm too stupid to be afraid.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Okay, that explains it. I'm just I'm not socking. I
hate it. Darcy, thank you. I'm looking forward to your show. Darcy.
Walter Grave will be back with Sports Talk at seven
o'clock this evening.

Speaker 7 (13:37):
Allian smithill join us with Team News.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
Said stuff mate, four twenty three.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
The men you trust to get the answers you need.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Heather Dupless, the Alan Drive with one New Zealand, let's
get connected and you talk because they'd.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Be fair bit of consternation about the fact that Black
Edder is injured. Yes, so we'll just see what happens
at five o'clock. Hey, we've had the announcement. I'll bet
you know. I've been waiting for this since Friday, the
announcement of who is taking over from King Ta hates
here and it's his daughter and nah, why will not
hit their poor gut it? I'm so disappointed, But you
know why I'm disappointed, not because I don't think she's

(14:09):
gonna do a job a good job. She may well
actually do a good job. I was just looking for
some drama, do you know what I mean? Like, I
feel like the English the English Royal House is set
the bar with all the carry on with Meghan and Harry,
and there's a bit of this going on currently in
the Marty the Mary royal family. You know you got,
you got what's his face, futsat Aungi or whatever his
name is, the eldest son marrying the bird. He's not

(14:30):
supposed to be. I was, so I was here for it,
and I was like, right, let's get some drama. Let's
let's throw somebody in there who were not expecting maybe
a little bit of and I am a hotel running
for the crown or something. No, unfortunately they just went
for the absolute, absolutely predictable one. Anyway, what can you do?
But what I'm interested in now is just knowing a
little bit about this young one and what she's into,

(14:51):
how she's gonna go. She seems pretty promising. So we're
gonna have a chat to Stacy Morrison who works here
at ENZ and me with us. She is down there,
she'll give us a bit of a take of on
what she's expecting from that. We've also got the Duval report,
which has finally come out as expected today, so I'm
going to run you through the details of that. Maria
Slade of Business Desk will explain everything that we need

(15:11):
to understand about Duval when she's with us. Heather Reagan
knew exactly what she was doing and what she was
going to be in for. I knew as soon as
I saw it that she will be the one laughing
one hundred percent. She basically admitted that in the interview
last night. She admitted that she knew she was going
to do really badly at the Olympics, and then she
went and just did it, didn't She headlines next.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in
your car on your drive home, Heather duper c Allen
drive with One New Zealand, let's get connected and news
talk as they'd be well.

Speaker 11 (15:48):
Gathered, cold, dusy.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
The weather.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Or hither I'm with you. Imagine if Tiku Morgan was
the king. That would be a bit of drama, wouldn't
it though. Anyway, we'll have to settle for the sensible
thing has been done here anyway, as I was saying,
Stacy Morrison with us after five o'clock on that. We're
standing by for the All Blacks team to be announced.
As you know, Elliott Smith will be with us at
a quarter past five on that. Barry Sopa is with
us in ten minutes and water Care is speaking now

(16:20):
this is important. I'm going to run you through why
we're speaking to water Care very shortly. Stand by for
that twenty four away from five.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
It's the World wires on news Talks. They'd be drive.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
US Vice President Kamala Harris is called the Georgia school
shooting a senseless tragedy. A fourteen year old is said
to be charged with murder over the deaths of two
teachers and two students at a high school. Harris addressed
the incident at a campaign event to New Hampshire, and it's.

Speaker 12 (16:45):
Just outrageous that every day in our country, in the
United States of America, their parents have to send their
children to school worried about whether or not their child
will come home alive. It's senseless. It is We've got
to sabbath.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
The Greenville Tower report has been released and as we
all expect it. It's not pretty. The report says the
fire occurred because of a chain of failures by governments, councils,
regulatory bodies and private contractors, and Keir Starmer, the UK
Prime Minister, has issued an apology in the House of Commons.

Speaker 13 (17:18):
I want to start with an apology on behalf of
the British State, to each and every one of you,
and indeed to all of the fundlers affective by this tragedy.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
And finally, Donald Trump is going to make conspiracy theorists
dreams come true if he wins the election. In November,
Trumps told the podcast Alex Friedman that he's going to
establish an independent commission to investigate the jfk assassination, and
he's also going to release documents on Jeffrey Epstein and
Lex also asked Trump about the aliens.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
A lot of people are very interested in footage of UFOs.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Will you help push the Pentagon to release more footage
which a lot of people claim is available.

Speaker 14 (18:00):
Yeah, sure, I'll how would do that.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'd love to do that.

Speaker 11 (18:04):
I have to do that.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Olie Peterson six pr Perth Live presenters with us Aliyellow
get a hitter, Ray Ghanai. She's loving it, isn't she.

Speaker 8 (18:19):
I'll tell you what.

Speaker 15 (18:20):
She really rubs me out the wrong way, like this
entire national shame and embarrassment that she's brought to this
nation with her pathetic performance at the Olympics and now
deciding to speak what four or five six weeks later,
finally she's apologizing and revealing that yes, she's had to
receive some mental health support after that controversial Olympics routine.

(18:41):
He's a little of what she had to say to
the project on Channel ten last night.

Speaker 10 (18:45):
A lot of the responses though, is also just due
to people not being very familiar with breaking and the
diversity of approaches in breaking. And it was so fantastic
that the next day the judging chau MG came out
explained that, you know, in the breaking community, what I
did actually wasn't very shocking. You know, it's just a

(19:06):
different approach in breaking. You have the athletic style breakers
and you also have the more artistic style breakers, and
all of them are very valid.

Speaker 3 (19:14):
She's just no good, Heather, Like she was no good.

Speaker 15 (19:17):
Anybody could see that, and you know what I didn't
like in this chat last night. She said, Yeah, so
many people have you know, really reached out from the
community and beyond that, like Sir Richard Branson, who's.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Like, oh hey, Reygun, you want to like collab.

Speaker 15 (19:29):
You want to do something together. I mean, she's hoping
her fifteen minutes of fame becomes fifteen years of fame
and you know, who knows, maybe she'll appear in you know,
some ad for virgin or something with Richard Branson and
she'll have fun with Welle.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Come on, mate, she's giving us a masterclass on how
not to wings about the online trolls, but how to
make money off it. Now, what's your problem with that?
Is it because you're embarrassed as an Aussie? Yeah, big time?
Like imagine that being your best breakdown.

Speaker 15 (19:53):
So at the Olympics, that's become the butt of everybody's jokes.
And what's the one thing people are talking out of
the Olympics her and like that just reflects poorly on Australia.

Speaker 8 (20:03):
We've got to do better, Heather.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
You know what, You're gonna have to get used to
her face because she is going to be everywhere, right,
She's gonna be in Richard Branson's cruisers with boy George.
Of all people, She's gonna be all over your TV
shows because there's massive bidding war for her. So this
is not the end of it day.

Speaker 15 (20:18):
I know she'll be on Dancing with the Stars next
to the block. Australia's got talent, obmouslebrity, get me out
of it. I can see it and I like it.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm really enjoying it though, and not
just I just love her hot spar I just think
it's brilliant. Hey, listen, Bill Shorten, do we know how
much he's going to get out of the university.

Speaker 15 (20:36):
Oh, he's just laughing all the way to the bank,
isn't he. He's gonna I mean, if you put it
in context that the head of the University of Sydney,
Mark Scott, used to be the boss of the ABC,
he's paid one point two million dollars a year. I
don't quite think he'll get that money from the University
of Canberra, but it'll be pretty healthy. I've got to
say it is a big loss for the government. Bill
short and he was a pretty boring opposition leader and

(20:56):
I reckon his personality is what let him down, and
the fact he lost a couple of unlosable elections and
got replaced by it in the Albanezi. Yes, he says
he has regrets, but look, he wouldn't change anything. He's
been a very effective minister looking after the National Disability
Insurance Scheme and taking it head on because that budget
is ballooning, you know, millions and million dollars every single
minute of every single day. So without shortened there, it'll

(21:20):
end the whispers obviously for the fact that an Albanize,
he's always good to look over his shoulder at somebody
wanting to take his job. But he's been an effective minister,
so you know, Bill short and good luck to him.
He's going to earn a packet at the University of
Camera but a big loss for albow.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Heym, which is the labor backbincher. Who is it who's
broken ranks of the gambling.

Speaker 15 (21:38):
Ads So it's a guy by the name of Mike
Freelander who probably nobody listening to news talks zb's ever
heard of, but he's broken ranks saying there should be
a full ban on gambling advertisements, and he lives in
hope the government changes its mind. The government has now
said that advertisements will remain on TV for years to come,
but he is saying the major public health issue is
gambling ads. Every major health or goation across the country

(22:01):
supports a complete ban on advertising and gambling. I would
suggest a few calls have been made from the Prime
Minister's office to Labor and P Mike Freelander today saying
we respect your personal opinion, but just maybe keep it
to yourself.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Yeah maybe so, Hey, Ollie, thank you very much, really appreciated.
That's Oliver Peterson, six PR PERS Live presenter. All right,
this is the situation with here. The raygun is the
Megan Markele of the Olympics. She needs to rune a
memoir and call it spare me. Thank you, Jin. I
appreciate that. This is the situation with water Care. Watercre
was busted in the Herald this morning because water Care,

(22:34):
as in the people who provide the water for Auckland
is to drink, have agreed on the quiet to give
ewe in the White Cuttle twenty million dollars. They did
this in December last year and it seems to be
basically in exchange for being able to draw more water
out of the White Cuttle, because, as you know, Auckland
draws its drinking water out of the White Cuttle, but
there's a set limit as to how much it can draw,
and in order to be able to draw more, when

(22:56):
Auckland was having a dry out in January twenty twenty two,
it came up with some sort of like a little
arrangement with Tai Nui. And this is the outcome of
the arrangement. One million, one million bucks paid every year
for twenty years. Now. I feel uncomfortable about that because
I do not think New Zealanders should have to pay
anyone to be able to access water to drink that

(23:18):
isn't a river, okay, because that water is just there,
we should be able to drink it without having to
fork out millions of dollars in order to be able
to quench our thirst. But also what makes this worse
is that water Care has admitted that they and Tai
Nui quote mutually agreed that no press release would be issued. Basically,
they agreed to keep it secret. So I'm pretty annoyed

(23:39):
about that because one point seven million Aucklanders have been
paying for this and will be paying for this for
twenty years and they tried to shaft us on it
and not let us know. So we called Watercare and
we were like, hey, we discussed. We're like Watercare, I'm
going to talk about it. Are they will just try
let's see, Hey, do you want to come on the show.
And they were like, yep, yeah, Watercare is going to

(23:59):
be on the show after half past five. Stand by
for that. Barry Sobers next.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Politics was Centrics credit check your customers and get payments certainty.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
Very senior political correspondence with us. Barry, Hello, good afternoon, Heather.
What is going on with this ethnic priority in hawks Bay?
I thought we knock this nonsense on the head.

Speaker 9 (24:17):
Well, yes, that story that I broke last year about.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Page Witless, Yes, and that was.

Speaker 9 (24:24):
Based on ethnic priority for Maori and Pacific Islanders. Now
they stopped that, and we were pleased to hear that,
because healthcare should never be based on ethnic grounds. But
in Hawke's Bay, fourteen to twenty four year olds were
recently receiving free GP services. Now from the first of September,

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the rule is being changed to base it on race,
so at the top priority when young people go to
the doctor. Now, if they're Moldy and or Pacific then
they will get free healthcare, whereas the rest of eighteen
to twenty four year olds will have to pay for

(25:12):
their health care. Now, initially it was changed last year
sorry and yet last year in May to give everyone
everyone at that age group free healthcare. But now it's
being narrowed down to Pacific and Maldy and they've listed
a number of conditions that would attract free health care.

(25:34):
But I talked to the ministers off of Shane Retty
because look, this government never backs this sort of Did
he sign up on it, No, he didn't, and the
office seemed to be unaware of it. Health New Zealand
has been spoken to about it now and they Health
new Zealand put out a statement a while ago and

(25:56):
they haven't seemed to not ruling it out for the
rest of the country free health care for Maldi and
PACIFICA well.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Hold on, are you telling me they are not ruling
out the fact that they're going to roll out every
out further.

Speaker 9 (26:08):
But the I think when the Minister's office sees this
and gets on to them, I don't if.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
We take Shane Ritti's office at their word that they
did not sign off on this, and one of two
things is happening here with Health New Zealand. Either these
guys have gone rogue and they are doing things they
know this government doesn't want done. Or number two, they're
just so big and bloated as a bureaucracy that stuff
that is not supposed to happen is still happening because
I'm numpty in an office and hawks Bay is passing

(26:37):
it off.

Speaker 9 (26:37):
Yeah, they will be saying. They'll claim though Health New
Zealand they're doing it on need because more Maldi and
Pacifica are in greater need than what I understand.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
The argument, well, why are they doing something that is
in direct co it is directly opposed to what this
government wants. Why are they doing that?

Speaker 10 (26:55):
Well?

Speaker 9 (26:55):
Who knows? I mean, you know these authorities tend to
operate on their own.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
So then have they gone rogue or are they just
so big they've lost track of all.

Speaker 9 (27:05):
I think they've lost track of what's going on in
the health system and what is expected of them by
the government in Wellington.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
That's my view is shesh okay, what about this bike
rack and Wellington? Have you seen it?

Speaker 9 (27:18):
I couldn't believe it. I saw the headline and I've
got to say the old Textpayer's Union has done a
bit of work on this. But I saw the headline
five hundred and sixty three thousand dollars and I saw
bike rack and I thought, oh, they mean bike track.
So it's not a rack, it's a track, but no,
it's for a rack. Unbelievable. Twenty four bikes can be

(27:40):
parked in this rack opposite the council offices on the
Terrace in Wellington, so.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
They are looking after themselves.

Speaker 9 (27:52):
I must have a lot of cyclists in the Wellington
City Council and that comes after. And you may remember
this controversy a couple of weeks ago about an eighty
four thousand dollars bike rack that's never used that was
near the friar Burg Pool. I think so that was
never used, Like the taxpayer Union has said that ratepayers
have to know about this particular bike rack costing more

(28:15):
than well almost six hundred thousand dollars. Are there hit
special hidden features like does it come with a red carpet,
heated floors or a bike wash?

Speaker 3 (28:25):
Very so this is just a bike shed. Well that's
literally all it is. It's just is it even three walls.
I think it might be three glass walls in a
roof and a bunch of racks. If the rain comes
in from the front, which in Wellington undoubtedly it will do.
Those bikes are gonna be where anyway?

Speaker 9 (28:41):
Well absolutely, I mean it's just it was somewhere to
put your bikes, I suppose, but it's ridiculous and I've
got to say it wasn't signed off by the whole council.
I've talked around the council today.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Down on the smears.

Speaker 9 (28:53):
There's fury in the council and it's even been suggested
to me it's time that a commissioner was called in
had to take take over the Wellington Sea. Can I
just remind this is by the people themselves, from within them?

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Can I just remind you, though, that when Chris Luxon
stood there at that conference in Wellington and told them
to reign in their spending, they all responded.

Speaker 9 (29:10):
But that we already are well, I tell you on
that vein I know with your saw has just come
out the South Taranaki District Council. It's new cultural center
has blown out from a starting point of eight million
dollars to twenty million dollars. Now the locals in South
Taranaki are up for an eleven percent rate rise. So

(29:33):
these vanity projects that Chris Luckson was talking about, he's
bang on, and no doubt you'll see more of these
exposed as time goes on.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
No, look, the councils are reigning in their spending. I
don't know if it's the story.

Speaker 9 (29:47):
I know they haven't got it sent to spare. They've
really cut back right back to the.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Perly because they were planning on putting a garden on
the roof of the bike crack and they've cut that
back to say.

Speaker 9 (29:57):
That's a pretty for cyclists.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
You want to pity for Wellington timing, it's like that, Barry,
thank you very much. I think we're all going to
have to have a cup of tea after what you've
just told us. Barry Soaper, Senior political correspondent, eight away
from five, putting.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
The tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 16 (30:12):
Climate Change Minister Simon Watson is with us. We've invented
something that doesn't exist to ieu carbon market, and we're
trying to convince people to give you money on something
they may or may not want to buy into and
they don't.

Speaker 17 (30:23):
Well, the purpose of the market is to reduce emissions,
it's not to create revenue for the government. So the
objective for me as Minister is ensure that that marketplace
is operating with an a credible manner.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Let's be clear.

Speaker 17 (30:35):
When government starts dabbling with markets, bad things happen.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Which is the steering wheel.

Speaker 16 (30:40):
So I knew you didn't invent it, but you're now
running something that people don't want and you're interfering with
the market, which you've just admitted is not good. Back
tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast then Jaguar.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
F paces used talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
Hither it's Health New Zealand that had the two hundred commstaff,
isn't it? Do they do they? Still? Does anyone know?
I don't know. I don't know what's going on at
Health New Zealand. But look every look, both of the
stories that Barry just told us about being the blowout
with the bike rack in Wellington and the situation with
Health New Zealand run contrary to the story that both
of those organizations are trying to tell us. So Wellington

(31:16):
councils like christ Luxon's so mean. He punched down at
us when he told us to cut our spinning. We've
already cut our spending. And then you go, oh, but
did you really, because look at this majorly you can
build a house for the cost of that bike crack
like that's outrageous. And then Health New Zealand's all like, oh,
you can't cut, you can't cut any more staff because

(31:36):
it's going to affect the front line and we're already
we don't have enough stuff. Well, clearly you do, because
clearly it's so bloated that the bureaucracy is still pushing
stuff through from a government we booted out about a
year ago. Anyway, I don't feel sorry for there is guys.
I go, I'm like Lester Levy, keep on cut and
cut cut, cut at Health New Zealand, thanks very much,
and Wellington Council you need a commissioner. Anyway. We will

(31:56):
talk to the huddle about both of these things, because
quite frankly, we're all outrage don't we. The Rugby the
All Blacks team is about to be announced in three
minutes and thirty seconds time, so Elliot Smith will be
with us out of South Africa on that we have
got the first receiver's report into Dval. Now they have
questioned that this is the one that's been the subject
of a court battle and has just been released. They

(32:18):
have questioned the business's own internal valuation. The business itself
said it was worth four hundred and thirty one million dollars,
apparently with no documentation to prove this, and the receivers
have looked at it and said, I don't think so.
Not sure about that. Also, no surprises. The receivers are
pretty worried about some transactions, including, for Exampaul the Duval

(32:38):
group buying intellectual property from a trust that is associated
with the owners Kenyon and Charlotte Clark. And they paid
for this intellectual property fifteen million dollars. Now that had
better be some banging intellectual property to be paying fifteen
million dollars for it. Maria Slade will be with us
very shortly. Took us through that. And if you haven't

(33:00):
heard about Taytay breaking up with Travis, I've got to
tell you about this because this is a scandal brewing
right here. News Talk zb.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,
get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.
Heather due to see Alan drive with One New Zealand
Let's get connected a news talk.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
As z B.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Good afternoon. The late Mary King's daughter has been chosen
to succeed her father as queen. Now why honouit Depoor
is the youngest child of kingy Tahitia and she is
now the eighth Mary monarch since the establishment of the
king Ydonga in the nineteenth century. Now Stacey Morrison has
been at the ceremony today is with us. Hey, Stacy, Keeldra,
how are you? I'm very well, thank you. Now she's
very young, isn't she.

Speaker 18 (33:54):
She is, she's twenty seven years old. But she's been
groomed for this position her whole life. And we had
an into the coverage that we did today from tudong
Awawi m I that reminded us that she was nine
at the time that her father, King you Tu Hatesia
became king and so this is very much her whole
existence as the family got used to King you Tu

(34:17):
Hatia being in that role. And so although she is
the youngest, in recent years especially she's been the one
who's been quite prominent and quite well known and well
seen in all of the big Hui two.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
She re educated, right, she's got a degree from Waikato University.
Apparently quite passionate. Abou kapa haka, Do we have any
idea anything more about her that we know that we
can kind of guess where she's going to take this.

Speaker 18 (34:43):
One thing I'd say about her kapa Haka is she's
quite exceptional. She really stands out, and I guess that's
when we see the potential of this queen. Actually, I
think that that's when she is really firing, and you go, wow,
this is someone who's got a very strong will and character.
So I think, you know, at twenty seven years old,

(35:03):
we can all say we know ourselves to an extent,
but there's more potential and so I see in her
quiet and humble strength. So now her job is to
gather the people around her that she feels will be
best to guide her. I believe that there may be
some who continue on from her father's council and then

(35:26):
she can sort of set apart.

Speaker 11 (35:28):
But it's a lot remembering that it was only.

Speaker 18 (35:30):
A week ago that Kenni Tuti had died unexpectedly at
sixty nine years.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Old, you're too right, was she a popular choice. Was
there anyone else who was pought up as a potential contender?

Speaker 18 (35:42):
I believe there were other potential contenders, And if you
think about the fact she's one of three, she's the
youngest and the other two boys, I do believe there
were other people who were considered.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
What of your days? You give us some names?

Speaker 11 (35:56):
Don't.

Speaker 18 (35:56):
Actually, I am happy to say I don't know exactly,
but I heard and I resided, no, that was not
a name that I heard.

Speaker 11 (36:06):
But I did hear.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
Well.

Speaker 18 (36:10):
I tell you what I really heard was the rapturous
applause when Queen Hanuid the Poor entered Tuo dungg Awahwai today,
And it actually took everyone by surprise because that didn't
actually happen for her father. And someone described to me
that it felt like a collective holding of breath. And
then she came through the Wild War and she was

(36:32):
announced as the next monarch, and people just burst into applause,
and apart from all the Kuttinger that were flowing and
all of the Haker, it was an incredible moment.

Speaker 11 (36:43):
It brought me to tears. A lot of us were
just so.

Speaker 18 (36:47):
In the moment that we couldn't quite describe at the
time how emotional it felt, but it was definitely part
of her losing her father so young, being twenty seven
herself and yet quite hope for in terms of like
you say, she's a well educated woman who's ready for
this position even though she has these young years.

Speaker 11 (37:08):
So it was quite an exceptional date.

Speaker 18 (37:10):
That's a moment that people who have been to say
that data Yaka, who's tonguey said, I don't know they've
ever experienced something like what we saw today when Nile
Way Honoid they're bought or you can call it in
our way. For sure, I believe was anointed and named
as an ex monarch whilst the king ethan.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
Stacy, thank you, I really appreciate your time. That Stacey Morrison,
who's covering the Kings the Martin King's tonguey Hana today
ever du for c Ellen right well, the hotly anticipated
receiver's report into the Duval Group has been released. As expected,
It's quite complicated in there there were no consolidated accounts,
no financial records for the du Vile Group companies. They've
never been audited. Rather, and receivers have questioned the group's

(37:51):
valuation of more than four hundred and thirty million dollars.

Speaker 8 (37:53):
Now.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Business dest journalist Maria Slade has been looking into this
and it is with us now, how Marianne, Hello, Okay,
Now the business ball fifteen million dollars worth of intellectual
property off the couple. That sounds like a lot of
money just be spending on IP.

Speaker 19 (38:06):
Is it? Well?

Speaker 20 (38:07):
This is one of the things that the receivers have
pointed out is one of the main concerns are these
related party transactions that have sort of washed about this
very large group of seventy odd entities. And one of
the things that they identified was a fifteen million dollar
intellectual property transaction between the clerk's family trust and one
of the entities, and it was a loan and apparently

(38:28):
there's no zero accounting records or anything to show where
the funds came from.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
The loan is now five.

Speaker 20 (38:33):
Million dollars, But where'd that other ten million dollars go?

Speaker 3 (38:36):
And what was it for?

Speaker 20 (38:37):
Nobody knows, So that that's an indication of the kinds
of transactions they're very concerned about.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
What about the valuation of the company. Was this just
something they made up? Where do they have evidence to
back this?

Speaker 20 (38:47):
Came out a while ago, actually, So they wanted to
do a public listing, a float on the Stock exchange, supposedly,
and so they produced an information memorandum, which is what
you're supposed to do if you're going to do something
like this, and they put this value of four hundred
and thirty one million, a top end valuation on the group.
But that was their own finger in the wind valuation.

(39:07):
There was no independent valuation, So who would know whether
that had any validity because it wasn't based.

Speaker 11 (39:15):
On a lot.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
So was it a hot mess in there? Well?

Speaker 20 (39:17):
The receiver John fisk described described it as a bowl
of spaghetti. And you certainly start to get that sense
when you look into things like, for example, one of
the developments, the proposed Edmonton muse out in Henderson, nice
little strip of land overlooking the two Eaglen Reserve, I
might add, nice spot. But that probably had four mortgages
on it, no less, and the investors were the third

(39:41):
or the fourth in the rankings. And one of those
mortgages was to one of their other developments. So one
of their other entities mortgaged their own entity.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Okay, John Fisker has got a job on his hands.

Speaker 20 (39:53):
He certainly does, and as you identify all the accounting problems,
they never did consolidated accounts, so that's when you look
at the whole group together, never done. None of the
accounts were were audited. I mean, you know anyone knows
that's just kind of basic. You've got to have four
ardited accounts and the significant number of related party advances
including transactions they said that didn't appear to have anything

(40:14):
to do with the actual operating purpose of the entity
that advanced the funds.

Speaker 3 (40:19):
Well, Maria, I'm sure you're going to see a lot
and there. Thank you so much for your time. I
really appreciate it. Is Maria Slade. Journalist from Business.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Desk, Heather Duper see Alan just really quickly.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
On Twitter, looks like they're getting into increasing trouble with advertising.
So survey has just been done by Cantar globally. It
shows that twenty six percent of advertisers are planning to
cut their spending on Twitter next year, and this year
the number was only fourteen percent, So this thing is accelerating.
On Elon Musk. What that concerned about is the social
media platform's content and the fact that they're losing trust
and the information that's being spread on Twitter not good

(40:50):
news for elon Mask because already the advertising revenue has
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Speaker 1 (42:09):
Heather Dupele see Allen.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Eighteen past five. Now, the All Blacks have made a
few changes to the side ahead of the second test
against the spring Box, which is happening in Cape Town
this weekend. Body Barrett and TJ. Perinara have been benched,
Sevu Reese and Cortez Rasima will start, and then Wallace
Attititi will be starting in the number six journey. Jersey
Elliot Smith is in Cape Town for us. Hey Elliott, Hey, Heather, Okay.
Body Barrett's obviously being brought in as a bomb squad later.

Speaker 21 (42:31):
Right, one hundred percent. Yeah, this is all about trying
to get that last twenty minutes right, which the All
Black simply didn't do last week at Alice Park. They
looked a little lost in last twenty minutes. So Boden Barrett,
the Rollie started in or came off the bench rather
in the last two at the first two tests of
the year against England, goes back to the bench. Will
Jordan at fullback, Tjer Petinara the other decision so very

(42:54):
much about getting that experience in the last twenty twenty
five minutes of the test match to try and close
it out. But this is what the spring Box have
done very very well. As you mentioned the head that
the bomb Squad, this is the All Blacks in some
part trying to replicate it on Sunday morning, your time, okay, And.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Why has TJ being pan TJ being benched, does that
also a bomb squad mover or are we not happy
with his performance?

Speaker 21 (43:16):
My understanding is that it's still a similar it's a
similar decision to Boden Barrett trying to get some experience
in the last twenty minutes. You look at the players
they've brought on last week, Cortez Ratama, who's going to
start this week, was only in his fifth Test, so
they any experience in the last half hour or so
of the test match, and it's becoming vitally clear. I
think in test match rugby that the last thirty minutes

(43:36):
are just as important as the first sort of fifty
or so, and it's all about that experience. And TJ
Peanara as well. Remember was behind Aaron Smith for the
majority of his Test career. It's really only this year
that he's had a real run of start, so he
knows that bench roll really, really well, and that's what
the All Blacks want to get out of him this
weekend in Cape Town.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
What's the vibe that you're packing up. Are they feeling
confident that they can actually nail the spring box or
are they a bit rattle?

Speaker 21 (44:01):
No, well, it's a lot of confidence that hey, if
you get that last twenty minutes right, then they should
have won. Last week. They've accepted that they should have
won and should be you know with the you know
rid in that mix with the Rugby Championship, but they
blew that last twenty minutes. So the vibe very much
out of the team is if they can get that
last twenty minutes right, they trust their game plan for
the first hour and they can get the win this

(44:22):
weekend and some of those changes that we've talked about
very much around that, you just hope that some of
the changes that don't mean they fall away in the
first hour and the game's gone at the hour mark.
So that's got to be intriguing come Sunday morning as well.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Elliott, thank you as always, look after yourself, stay safe.
That's Elliot Smith News Talks. They'd be Rugby commentator in
Capetown for the test and by the way, gues Ethan
Blackadder is injured.

Speaker 8 (44:41):
Heather.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
I just listened to the summary of issues in the
Duval report. One wonders why didn't the FMA act more
strongly early if they knew that they weren't producing consolidated
accounts or having them audited. Surely that should have set
off serious red flags. They did warn them on a
couple of occasions, but allowed them to continue. It's a
very good question. Five to twenty one.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Duplicy Allen cutting through the noise to get the facts.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
It's hither duplicy Allen drive with one New Zealand let's
get connected and news talk.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
As they'd be.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
Heather, can you please explain a bomb squad. I can't
believe that I am explaining something in rugby to a man,
but I'm gonna do it, Robbie. What a bomb squad
is is a squad that comes in that this is
specifically in rugby. This is the term that we're using
for it. So it's a squad that comes in towards
the end of the game, maybe twenty minutes out, and
they just come in and just bring all this fresh
energy and they attack it like they are a bomb

(45:29):
going off in the game. Hence, bomb squad. You're welcome.
Just Lady's plain in that five point twenty four listen,
listen to this, Okay. This is a list of corporates
and countries who are abandoning their climate saving targets, or
at least watering them down it can, and this is
very recent. Volvo overnight ditched its plans to become one
hundred percent EV by twenty thirty. Sweden yesterday announced it

(45:52):
scrapping its climate flight tax. GM Motors has gone soft
on its aim of producing one billion evs by the
end next year. Ford abandoned its plans to be completely
ev in Europe by twenty thirty, and in New Zealand
has ditched its twenty thirty climate target. On top of
all of that, Krmala Harris is barely mentioning the climate
has been noted and we'll talk about that later on.

(46:12):
She hardly ever mentions it in the election campaign. Now,
each of those corporates and countries that I just listed
before will have their various explanations for why they're doing it,
But in each of these cases, what they've hit up
against is reality. There is, frankly, only so much a
consumer will pay extra to save the climate. Consumers do
not care about the climate as much as climate activists
will have you believe. Yes, everybody cares, but when it

(46:32):
comes to thinking about how much you're going to pay
for it, suddenly you don't care as much because what
are we in? Cost a living crisis and putting food
on the table is more important, isn't it than paying
all that extra stuff. Now, if you have the choice
of a PRICEEV or a cheaper petrol car, a lot
of people are going to stick with the petrol car,
both today and in twenty thirty. If Sweden is charging

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you a climate tax just to fly there. You might
go none. They're going to go to Sweden. Actually, you
might just go to Norway, go somewhere else. Now, the
reason I'm telling you this, the reason I read you
that list, is not because I'm thrilled that consumers don't
really care about the climate as much as people say.
I already knew this, I've baked this it and this
is a fact. I'm telling you this because we're going
to see more and more of this as the corporates

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get closer to their deadlines and have to be honest
that they actually can't meet them. And the important thing
for us here in New Zealand is that we do
not tie ourselves up in knots as well trying to
meet deadlines and targets ain't nobody else planning to meet anymore.
Got to be realistic about this stuff. Okay, we make
our money as a country off food largely, That's where
a lot of our money comes from. And in order

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to grow that food, we have to release emissions. That
just happens, and there is a lot of pressure from
New Zealand, both internally and externally to cut those emissions,
even if it is at the expense of making money
for the country. So every time that pressure is applied,
let's just remember everyone who's already walking back from their
targets Air New Zealand, Volvo, gm Ford Sweden. The list

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will get longer and longer. Let's not make ourselves poorer
by sticking to targets that others are already abandoning.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Together for see Ellen, I'm going to get you.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Across more of the detail later on in the program
and talk to Huddle about that as well. Just a reminder,
Watercare's boss is going to be with us just after
the news. He's going to explain to us why they
decided to keep that twenty million dollar payment to the
wycuttle EWE a secret. Also, I feel in fairness that
I have to say this that bike rack in Wellington.

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The total cost of the project was more than five
hundred and sixty thousand dollars, but the cycle rack itself
was only one hundred and thirty six Everything else was
like widening the curb and all that kind of stuff.
There is an argument that all of that was done
for the bike crack, but I just want you to
know the detail. Headlines next.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Hard Questions Strong opinion, Heather, do for ce Ellen drive
with one New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Let's get connected and news talk as it'd be. I'll
out the.

Speaker 20 (48:52):
Dovershid Wisni downtown.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Yesty, there's a party bouncedown your fist.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
The Huddle is standing by this evening. We've got Mike
monro Nicley get Heather. Are we as a species going
to go extinct? Primarily due to it not being cost
effective to save ourselves? Adrian? Have you met a human?
Money matters? Money trumped most things, mate. It's coming up
twenty four away from six now it has been speaking
of money. It's been revealed today that water Care in

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Auckland has struck a secret deal to pay Y Cuttle's
tinyui Ewe twenty million bucks. It'll be one million dollars
every year for twenty years now. The agreement seems related
to water Care winning the ability to be able to
draw more water from the White Cuttle River when Auckland
was in drought. Dave Chambers is the chief executive at Watercare.
Hey Dave, Hi, Heather, why do you keep it a secret?

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Well, it's as we've as things have unfolded today, certainly
for had our time again we would have announced things
in a different way. We have been working with Waikato
Tainui on some of these issues since twenty twenty where
we had our first color Nada and it was refreshed
last year and resigned in December of last year. So

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I certainly apologized to Auckland as if they feel as
anything untoward with that.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
Do you think there was something Dave? No, No, explain
to me why you kept it a secret.

Speaker 4 (50:19):
Well, we didn't keep it a secret. And really clarify
that it's a it's a maximum of a million dollars.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm not ready to talk
about that. I'm not ready to talk about that, Dave.
I want to know where you kept it a secret.
You and Taynui mutually agreed not to release a press release.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Why, yeah, if we had our time again, why Dave.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
When you made that decision, you made it for a
reason and what was that reason?

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Well, as it's said, I can only apologize, No.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Dave, you owe me an explanation. I am a rate payer,
as are so many people listening to this. Why did
you not tell us? Why did you decide to keep
it from us?

Speaker 4 (51:01):
It was a refreshed agreement from twenty twenty Heather, and
it was announced at that time.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
I know that that is on the record. Why did
you keep it a secret?

Speaker 4 (51:14):
Well, I don't think we did keep it a secret.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Why did you?

Speaker 4 (51:17):
Can let me rephrase it.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
You can understand this. Why did you not release a
press release? Why did you decide to not release a
press release?

Speaker 4 (51:29):
Well, as I stay, we would do it differently if
we're having.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Why and what does come on? You guys made who
You made this decision for a reason? What was that reason?
Because I'm going to fill the blanket for you right now.
The reason was that we were going to react the
way that we're reacting right now. You didn't want this
bad attention?

Speaker 4 (51:49):
Is that right? No, that's not the case at all.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
So what was the case?

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Well, with the as I said, all I can do
is apologize for not refreshing our our media statement from
that refreshed agreement.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
Okay, what is this money being spent on?

Speaker 4 (52:14):
So I'd like to clarify that it's a maximum of
a million dollars a year for projects to improve the
water quality of particularly the lower reaches the Awa the
Waikato River. Today, no money has been paid and because
the joint Working Party is just starting its work and

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there'll be a five year plan. Representeds from both parties
report to both organizations and as to how that funding
will be allocated and particularly what outcomes will be delivered.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Does that money that million bucks a year include paying
the costs of two Kaitiaki two guardians.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
No, I think it's for some secretary support for the group,
what a joint working party, and there'll be a program
lead for the for the projects that that we've worked
on to improve the water quality. So this isn't it's

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it's not unusual to what's completely usual that that our
water catchments have protection programs and this is the Wayketo
River supplies normally twenty percent of Aucans drinking water.

Speaker 8 (53:32):
Who are making.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
Who else are you paying in order to be able
to draw water out for people to drink?

Speaker 4 (53:41):
We're not paying these people to draw water out to drink.
Payments are for if approach, what these payments are for
and what the projects are for is to try and
improve the quality of the.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
White Can this not a condition of getting your consent?

Speaker 4 (54:00):
The two millions for the Waykatto River Authority was a
condition of consent.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
Yes, yeah, all right, Okay, how much is it costing
every household?

Speaker 4 (54:12):
Well, we've got four hundred and eighty five thousand connected
customers across Auckland, social and residential.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
So it's twenty million divided by four hundred and eighty
five thousand.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
No, it's a maximum of a million dollars a year
for projects to improve the water quality. And as have said,
to date, we haven't paid any money and because the
projects haven't been scoped as to what they are and
what they'll contribute to water quality improvements.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
All right, Dave, thank you. Dave Chambers, chief executive at
water Care. Heather Court red handed. Does he think ratepayers
are stupid? Yes? I think he does. Zane Hither, I
have to keep checking my radio to see if it's
working because of the long gaps. Peter Heither, you need
to borrow Mike's trucks and clown cars. That water Care
guy as a humpty shirl.

Speaker 11 (55:01):
Hither.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
The convoys are coming throck and fast through this interview here.
The ratepayers would have closed this down had we been told.
And that right there is why they kept it secret.
Because he didn't like what just happened to him. He
didn't like having to explain it, and they didn't want
to have to, and they hope we'd never find out.
I'm very happy to say that, I'm very happy to
come up with that little conspiracy theory right there. Eighteen
away from six.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
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Speaker 3 (55:27):
On the huddle of this this evening. Mike Munroe, former
advisers to Jacinda and Nick Leggett Infrastructure, New Zealand High Lads.

Speaker 8 (55:33):
Hello, good day, Heather.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
All right, Nick, do you want to have a guess
at why they tried to keep it secret?

Speaker 5 (55:39):
Well, I think you've just touched on it, haven't you.
Look to me, this is perfectly defendable, particularly if you
went and said if you'd disclosed it and then you'd
said this is what the million dollars is going towards.
The issue here is that it's water care is now
on the back foot, as you've correctly demonstrated, and it

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feels like something's being hidden and actually improving the health
quality of the way Cattle River in the part that
it's most polluted is not a bad thing, and it's
something that I think most people in New Zealand would
think was a good idea.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
So this is not defendable because why don't we just
call it out for what it is.

Speaker 8 (56:19):
Right?

Speaker 3 (56:19):
We do not pay to access water in this country,
and this gets around that by dressing it up as
some sort of like appointing Kitesiyaki and doing all this
research just paying to get water out.

Speaker 5 (56:30):
But if it was, if you could, if you could
demonstrate from the get go that there were tangible projects
coming from this million dollars that were improving the health
of the river, I don't think people would have a problem.
But there's no opportunity to explain that now because it
looks like it's been covered up very much.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
So I mean, Mike, how do they rescue themselves from this?

Speaker 22 (56:51):
Well, yeah, they've got themselves into a real pickle. And
I agree with Nick that, you know, they should have
just come out there at the outset and see what
was going on. I mean, he mentioned a figure of
four hundred and eighty five thousand people on their database
or whatever. To me, that's about two dollars twenty a
year per household.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Yeah, but and then adding then added to it the
forty million were already paying. And then before you know it,
it starts becoming a lot more than just a couple
of bucks than that.

Speaker 22 (57:20):
But that number for the cleanup, the forty million dollars,
that's already out there. They put that number out there
when the deal was made.

Speaker 8 (57:27):
This fun.

Speaker 22 (57:28):
For some inexplicable reason, they decided to sit on it.
And when you do a cover up like this, it
always comes around and bites you in the bum at
some point, and it did this afternoon when you just
did your blistering interrogation there.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Either of poor Dave.

Speaker 22 (57:41):
So yeah, with Dave's secrecy always backfires.

Speaker 3 (57:46):
All right, guys, we'll take it. Don't side with Dave.
Now listen, both of you guys are Wellingtonian, so I
want you to. I want your take on the bike
rack and Wellington very short. We will come back and
do that sixteen away from six.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
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Speaker 3 (58:01):
Okay, we've got Mike Monronick legged on the huddle. Mike,
what do you spend? What do you make of this
spend on the bike crack on the terrace?

Speaker 22 (58:08):
I saw that article and I just thought it was
more hysteria from the anti bike lobby myself. I mean, look,
if we're going to incentivize people to get out of
cars and to get on their bikes and use other
means of getting into the city, there's got to be
the infrastructure for it, Mike, and a half a million
dollars for a bike rack is not a big deal
when you put it alongside the millions that get spent

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every year on roadways and curves and everything else.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Mike, are you listening to yourself? That is the cost
of building a house.

Speaker 22 (58:39):
Yeah, but this thing's going to accommodate a rather large
number of bikes. And as a person who uses a
bike in that part of the city, it's severely lacking.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Why can't you just chain your bike up against a
pole like I do?

Speaker 22 (58:51):
Well, up till now, I've been doing that, but now
I can use this flash bike hold on a tack though.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
So, Mike, were you telling me you were riding your
bike anyway without the bike, but now this is going
to make you ride your bike because you've got a bike?

Speaker 8 (59:02):
Rap?

Speaker 22 (59:02):
No, No, no, there is there are There is infrastructure
up there now to park bikes, but it's very limited.
In fact, I saw the councilor Calvert who's quoted in
this article today saying that no one ever uses the
rack outside the council and that's not true. That's direct misinformation,
place of misinformation. I've use it twice about the last
three weeks, and there's always bikes there.

Speaker 11 (59:24):
But the thing is there's a lack.

Speaker 22 (59:25):
Of infrastructure up there, and a lot of people work
in that part of the city and take their bikes
in and like you say, they've got to strap them
two power poles or whatever, and that upsets some of
the passes by. So having a bike back to me
makes emminent sense. And it's a good signal that bike
bikeers cyclis they are going to be looked after.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
NAC next, save me from Mike right now, please?

Speaker 5 (59:47):
Yeah, I mean the answer the Mike's right in the
sense that we do need we do need infrastructure for
a whole lot of ways of moving around. But it
isn't bikes versus cars, mic. It's a bit more of
everything else. But I think the real bit of everything
should I say that? The real issue here though, is
value for money, isn't it. People are being stung by

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twenty percent plus rate increases and it's easy. And Mike,
you're a media man of all of us, you know,
you would know it's when things stick out and people
are struggling to pay heavy rates bills that these kind
of issues have attention drawn to them. So yeah, and
that and that's I think the real the real message

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here is, you know, there's there is a challenge around
local government demonstrating value for money. I think we're right
to look at local government and central government for that.
And people will be scrutinizing the spending, but that the
answer to that is not to say spend nothing on
by some cycle lanes, but actually we've got to invest

(01:00:50):
in every load of transport. Let's not get bought into
this partisan it's.

Speaker 3 (01:00:58):
It's not catastrophed. That's not what's going on here. What's
going on here. We're having a.

Speaker 8 (01:01:05):
Respose.

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Okay, thank you, because because there is a there is
a middle path here, Mike, that normal kiwis can see, right, Like,
I mean, iicycle, I cycle all the time, but I
think you can actually do hit sticks and you can
and there's your cycle way downe. You don't have to
spend millions dollars on just.

Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
Made the points. You've just made the point.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Yeah, yeah, and you can build a bike use.

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Different ways of getting around, and we should, Yes, we
should prioritize all of them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
It is Mike about the it's about going for the
gold standard. And this is the problem. Like a lot
of people are can be really upset about this. They've
been priced out of their houses and then they see
tories just gone and by it brought a bike thing
for five hundred thousand. It's indefensible, even.

Speaker 22 (01:01:42):
Heather, I don't know what you think is an appropriate
amount for a bike rack so that people can get
their bikes safe in the city. I mean, there's it's
four hundred thousand, undred thousand.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
You can reduce that by multiples.

Speaker 22 (01:01:55):
Yeah, true, maybe you can. But but you know, I
don't know the sort of ins and out to budgeting
for bike racks, so I don't.

Speaker 8 (01:02:04):
Just can I just make another Can I make another
point here?

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
I think the five hundred thousand was for the whole
lame way. Yeah, the bike greck itself was about one
hundred and thirty six. I'm just trying to Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
Yeah, just about of context. I mean it was all
done for the bike crack, obviously, but it all added up. Hey, Listen,
tell me something, Neck, What do you think of Reagan?

Speaker 8 (01:02:26):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
She is milking her fame and you can either take
the approach of loving it like I am, or you
could go without Ossie correspondent who hates her for it.
Where are you on this?

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
I'd probably lead more to you on this, Heather. I mean, like,
she's got a hell of a lot of attention, she's
got a brand, she's an athlete, and she didn't she
didn't do particularly well, but she can she can get
ahead on on on the not variety, All power to her.

Speaker 22 (01:02:53):
What do you think, Mike, Well, look, I think hither
that if she was so bad, if it was such
a bizarre perform and what was she doing there? And
what does that say about the qualifying processes in Australia. Yeah,
I mean, shouldn't the question be asked about the Australian
selection process and the people who ticked off her name
to be a competitor at the Games. I mean, she

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went over there and did her best, but somebody in Australia,
or a lot of somebodies decided she was good enough
to be there and the other ones you'd be in
the gun, not Dearrol Raygun.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Yeah, ray Gun, I love what you've done there. Hey, guys,
thank you so much, appreciate it. Mike Monroe, nick LEI
at our hudle this evening, right, Tatan next, You've got
to get across this. This is a thing that's happening
eight away from six, on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
Heather on the bike Crack even one hundred thousand dollars
is ridiculously outragious. Twenty thousand tops installed, the metal workers
five thousand. Max Listen, I love Mike Monroe, but do
you have some insight now into Wyjisinda's government did what
they did and the calls they made, Like somebody would
have piped up in the meeting with Mike had been
like light Rail twenty nine billion, Mike would have been like, Yep,

(01:04:06):
value for money, handy pay, totally justifiable like Onslow twenty
eight billion. Yep, now go go for it, yep. The
bike Bridge to Birkenhead nearly seven hundred million dollars. Now,
Mike's like, yep, absolutely, just write them checks, write them
checks And sorry, Tory, did you also want to bike?

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
Great?

Speaker 19 (01:04:21):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
How much five ony thousand go for? It explains a lot,
doesn't it anyway? Tata? So the latest with Tata. This
is Taylor Swift and the boyfriend Travis Kelcey. The latest
about this is whether there's Internet speculation as to whether
they're even a couple at all, or whether this has
all just been a sham romance for PR.

Speaker 8 (01:04:41):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
The reason that the Internet's talking about this is because
a document has emerged suggesting they were doing it as
a stunt for PR. The document has the title Comprehensive
Media Plan for Travis Kelcey's Public Relations Following Breakup with
Taylor Swift, and the document says they're going to break
up on the twenty eighth of this month, and then
it lays out how to effectively manage and mitigate the
fallout from the breakout, and it ensures that Travis Kelcey

(01:05:04):
comes out with a brand intact and blah blah blah
blah blah. Now, the letter ahead of the document is
the letter ahead of his PR team, which is called
full Scope. Now, Full Scope have reacted like they've gone
nuclear on this. They're really upset about it. They've called
in the lawyers. They're going to hunt down whoever forged
this document. Because this has been forged, they're going to

(01:05:24):
hunt down whoever's behind it. And the Internet is very
divided at the moment as to whether the singer is
legit or whether it's a forgery and has just been
written by chat GPT or something, and various news publications
have come down on the side of it being a fake.
But here's the twist. Okay, so first of all, you
need the context. Showmancers, as in fake romances are not new.

(01:05:46):
They have been done for decades in Hollywood. They've been
done since the start of Hollywood, back in the day
before it was okay to be gay. They would often
just fake a romance and stuff to hide the fact
that a particular movie star was gay, or lift someone's
profile or something. Where it gets really interesting is that
the guy who actually handles Travis Kelsey's account at Full Scope,
Jack Kittsoyan, has actually admitted to in the past setting

(01:06:09):
up freak romances between clients. He was on an Aussie
podcast five years ago. He reckons he's already done two
famous couples purely for publicity. He said. One guy had
a movie coming out and he was getting really bad
reviews and stuff, and so they found him a girl.
It was a one year deal. He finished off the
press a little bit after that there went their separate ways.
And she also benefited because she went from being the

(01:06:29):
third build to a leading lady. So m divided on
that one. Am I right? And Plus I've got more
on this standby news talk z'b.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
She's been trackive where the money is flowing with the
business hour, we'd had the duplicy Ellen and my Hr
on news Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
AB even in coming up in the next hour. The
oil price is at the lowest it's been in one
and a half years. We can talk to Liam Dan
about that. Jamie McKay got his gong today, almost knighted
but not quite. But anyway, it's huge. By the way,
he's going to be with us shortly, and Sam Dickie
will explain the weirdness that he's seeing going on in
the US economy. Eight past six. Now we've got another

(01:07:11):
corporate as I was telling you earlier, who ditched its
climate targets. Volvo has just announced it's going to abandon
the plan to be fully electric by twenty thirty. Add
to that, GM done a similar thing, Ford done a
similar thing in New Zealand, and even a country, Sweden
abandoning similar plans. Associate Professor Doctor Rob Hales specializes in
sustainability at Griffith Business School in Queensland and is with us.

(01:07:32):
Hey Rob, Hi, how are you doing very well? Thank you?
Why do you think Volvo set the twenty thirty target
if they couldn't achieve it?

Speaker 4 (01:07:41):
Well.

Speaker 23 (01:07:42):
I think a few years ago there was a lot
of noise, a lot of excitement about net zero targets,
and I think this was all great to get corporate
businesses across the world, not just New Zealand, interested in
this area. And I think what's happening now there's a

(01:08:02):
bit of a maturation or maturity happening within corporations. And
there's some other factors as well coming in terms of
transparency and actually being able to deliver on some of
the claims. But I think there's a little bit more
maturity in terms of how we can actually go about
near zero.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Obviously, what they're doing is getting ahead of what was inevitable,
right it is much better to ditch than twenty twenty
four than to get to twenty thirty and be busted, right,
that's correct.

Speaker 23 (01:08:30):
And in New Zealand there is a case in terms
of greenwashing coming up in the courts there, and there
has been a number of cases in Australia, quite a
few in Australia whether the corporate Regulator is actually examining
the claims of corporations quite seriously and fining and taking

(01:08:53):
businesses to court and also issuing notices to comply with
the advertar of their claims for sustainability and climate change.

Speaker 21 (01:09:04):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
So do you anticipate then that this is just the
start of it? I mean, we're going to see a
lot more businesses walk away from their twenty thirty targets
as we approach it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Well, I don't think so.

Speaker 23 (01:09:12):
I think what's going to happen is a term called
green hushing. You might know about green washing, but green
hushing is actually keeping your targets and keeping the mechanisms
to try and get there a bit quiet.

Speaker 8 (01:09:25):
So there's been some.

Speaker 23 (01:09:26):
Industry studies out there to show that you know, up
to twenty five percent of businesses aren't actually disclosing in
the public what their targets are. But they're actually going
ahead with you know, trying to meet targets and got
good mechanisms to do so within their business. But they're
just being a little bit more reserved about how they
go about advertising these things, mainly because of the liability

(01:09:49):
issues of false advertising.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
And do they just announce it? Do they announce it
then if they reach it and they just keep it quiet,
if they don't.

Speaker 23 (01:09:57):
Yeah, yeah, they're or they're waiting to see how they go.
I think they're not. They may be saying that they're
committed to net zero. You know, this is a claim
that it's quite easy to maintain over time. But to say,
you know that you're getting out of the petrol game,
which one company in New Zealand said they're going to,

(01:10:18):
and then that got them into a little bit of
trouble because they're getting out of it, but then petrol
sales increased in their business.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
That's correct, Yes, so.

Speaker 23 (01:10:30):
You know, who knows where that's going to land in
terms of the outcome, But the fact that it's going
to you know, it's being disputed, means that companies are
being very careful about claims that they're making now. But
it doesn't mean they say that they're necessarily shying away
because you've still got legislation in New Zealand and soon
to be introduced in Australia next early next year in

(01:10:52):
terms of accountability standards, sustainability accountability standards coming.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
In rob there are obviously industries who will struggle. I
mean the airline sector is one that's going to struggle
because what's the alternative? You know, like there's just not enough,
there's not enough sustainable aviation fuel to be able to use.
But what proportion of industry do you think is actually
going to be able to meet its targets in twenty
thirty across an economy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:17):
Ah, that's a good question.

Speaker 23 (01:11:18):
I think there's another factor in here as well which
makes it difficult to answer.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Is that the.

Speaker 23 (01:11:25):
One point five scenario that was dated to be twenty fifty,
if you've been following that, the I think in COP
twenty nine coming up, we're going to see a shifting
of the date of when one point five realistically is
going to occur, Like we're gotting a one point five
net zero target. Yeah, and we've had you know, one

(01:11:48):
point five degrees happen for more than five years in
a row. The average over ten years is what determines,
you know, what is one point five degrees in the globe.
So you know, I can bet my house that that
date is going to change as to when we have
the target set for net zero one point five. It's
not going to be twenty fifty to be when is

(01:12:10):
it going to be, Well, it's hard to say. I
was actually just talking to a colleague about it beforehand.
It's hard to say where it's going to land. You
can look up quite easily in Nature and other peer
review journals talking about the twenty thirties as when the
one point five degree mark is going to be crossed,
you know, and that's probably what's going to be debated

(01:12:30):
at COP twenty nine coming up. So when a company says, oh, yes,
we're going to be aiming for one point five, but
twenty fifty, there are challenges trying to meet that. But
then there is extra dimension of you know that that
target I believe is going to change downwards any terms
of time, So that poses even more challenges for businesses

(01:12:53):
that are really progressive and even making those targets, so
let alone the ones that you know in industries that
are hard to abate, like airlines, and also companies that
rely a lot on transport as well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
That that's quite a tricky.

Speaker 3 (01:13:10):
One, Rob, Thank you, I really appreciate your time this
doctor Rob Hales, Associate Professor specializing in sustainability at Griffith
Business School in Queensland. Heather, what about Lyle Lovett and
Julia Roberts, Heather, are you inferring that Lisa Marie Presley
and Michael Jackson's marriage may not have been legit? Just
saying Tayte herself has already been in a possible show mance.

(01:13:34):
There is speculation that, remember she was going out with
Tom Hiddleston all of our way back in twenty sixteen.
She'd just broken up with Kate Calvin Harris, the DJ,
and then suddenly she was going out with Tom O.
They dated for only three months and then they broke
up long enough to distract from her breakup with Calvin Harris.
Just saying, do you remember Jackass back in the day,

(01:13:54):
Steve O, the clown who was on Jackass, He said
that Nicole Ritchie only dated him as a big publicity stunt.
So there's another showmance and they would deliberately call the
paparazzi when they were together and get the photos taken,
and that would be basically the end of it. Nick
Lakey from ninety eight Degrees the boy Band all the
way back in the day, he reconcided the same thing.
He went on a date with a young woman nobody

(01:14:16):
knew Kim Kardashian and called the barbarazzi, and well, that
showmance worked well for her. So I'm just saying keep
it open as a possibility. Maybe old Taitayan and Travis
Kelsey is not a real thing. After all quarter parts.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Heather dupericy
Ellen with the Business Hours thanks to my HR, the
HR platform for SME on news talksb.

Speaker 3 (01:14:41):
Heather Benefer, Heather Benifer Reunion, all for the money. Now
you're catching on a because this is how it works, right,
So that screams of showmance, doesn't it. Jennifer and what's
your name? Lopez? Thank you? Sorry? Sorry he wasn't paying
that much attention, but obviously, because you know, I.

Speaker 14 (01:15:01):
Was gonna say, I hope we're not accusing Jennifer Andison
of beer and Brad Pitt of being a showmance, because
then it would be great. That would be heartbreaking, that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Would be great. Jennifer low Pears and Ben Affleck get
together after all of those years, after he's disgraced himself
by being a completely grumpy, boring old man, they get
back together, breathe a bit of life into each other's careers.
She tries to do the tour. It doesn't go very well,
so she cancels the tours that obviously didn't pay off,
and then they get divorced just before they're supposed to

(01:15:27):
get married. Yeah, I think you're onto it. Just saying
eighteen past six anyway, sounded like a gen Z year there,
and I'm embarrassed by that. The price of oil, talking
about things that actually really matter, is the lowest in
a year and a half. Brent Crewd is currently sitting
at seventy two US dollars forty five cents a barrel.
Liam dan as The Herald's Business editor at large and
with us Now, hey Liam.

Speaker 8 (01:15:47):
Good air either Yeah, nice to have a bit of
good news.

Speaker 3 (01:15:50):
Oh you mean he's obviously not not benefit.

Speaker 8 (01:15:54):
Yeah, no, no, I was thinking about the price of
petrol at the pump. This weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Actually, what's caused the price of oil to come back
like this?

Speaker 24 (01:16:01):
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, I don't want to
dig too deep because it might kill the good news
vibe around it.

Speaker 8 (01:16:05):
But a couple of things.

Speaker 24 (01:16:08):
US economy is so that that sell off on markets
Tuesday overnight Tuesday took oil with it, So concerns about
the US economy usual thing. Markets came down a bit
and and oil went but then some other things. So
there was a bit of concern about China. You've got
some geopolitical stuff happening. You've got Opek Plus has been

(01:16:30):
talking about pushing up supply again, and they might get
cold feet or they might go through with it, but
you know, they're talking about bringing back on a whole
bunch of supply they took off earlier in the year,
and that would put down with pressure on the price.
And also some weird stuff happening in Libya, so that's
had all sorts of political turmoil, and there was some
talk that they might have got themselves a central bank

(01:16:52):
governor who was you know, it was very complicated stuff,
but it was a trigger for the sell off on
Tuesday night, and it went again on Wednesday night. So
there's been been a bit of downward pressure for a
month or so, and you might have noticed. People might
have noticed that at the pump, but the good users,
I think, you know, we've had another you know, five
percent or so come off in the last day or two.
So I think we should be driving into some some

(01:17:14):
lower prices for Saturday and Sunday.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
I like what you did there, So we haven't got
the cheaper prices yet, we have to wait for the weekend.

Speaker 24 (01:17:21):
Well, if you look back look at gas b the
you know, the consumer petrol website that says that the
average price of only to ninety one has come off
about five or six percent fifteen cents in the last
twenty eight days. But I don't think that that's the
retail price and it won't catch that fall of the
last few days. So you know, the other factor you've
got to throw in there is the k Kiwi dollar

(01:17:43):
versus the US. But it's it's look, it's about the
same as it's been for some time. So I think
that being stable, you know, fingers crossed that you know,
the petrol companies do the right thing and the price
comes down.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
Here Liam, thank you appreciated. Look after yourself, Liam down
there all Business editor at large. Heare the Kim Kardashian
going on a date had nothing to do with her
getting famous. It was a video, well, Tony ate, probably
leaked by the mum. You're right, Tony, but maybe they
tried the kind of just the stock standard go on
a date approach before they tried the full noise explicit
video approach.

Speaker 14 (01:18:14):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
And it didn't work. Obviously. Isn't Nick Lakey who remembers him? Nobody?
Jamie McKay's already sent me a text bragging about what
they ate today at the gg's house when he got
his big gong invested your high tea egg sandwich, ham,
cheese and pineapple sandwich. Controversial, controversial. Not everybody's going to
be into that. Asparagus cheese roll, lamb shepherd's pie, SCons

(01:18:39):
with cream and jam, how good, raspberry macharn and a
lemon curd shoe pastry. And then he says, after all
of that class from the GG, he goes great feed.
So he obviously brought He just brought the tone down
to be with us. Next six to twenty two, the
Rural Report on hither du to see Allan Drive and

(01:19:00):
Jamie McKay, Host of the Countries with us now Jamie
your majesty, Hello, Hello Heather, now iphoso of you that
you sent through today and the gong that you've got
for the member of the New Zealand Order of Merit
is gigantic. It's like it's like a giant VC or something.
Is that the thing that you're supposed to wear around?

Speaker 19 (01:19:22):
No, I don't think so. It may not see the
light to day, might drag it out for anzac daye
or something ether, But I don't want to be a corrector,
but it's the officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit.
You've got to get your own z and MS, right, Heather?

Speaker 3 (01:19:34):
I begg you, madam. So normally I see the people
walking around with just a little badge that there was
this tiny, little, just very very kind of discreete little
white and red badge on the lapel of their jacket.
Do you not get one of those?

Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:19:47):
You get a wee miniature thing as well, so you
can plunk that on. It's a bit less ostentatious.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
Tell me what's your plan, your sutorial plan? Are you
going to rock that out every time? You go to
something formal, wear your little badge.

Speaker 19 (01:20:00):
Oh no, I don't think so No, No, honestly I
don't think so well, I hardly noticeable. But anyhow, look,
it was it was a great honor and it was Look,
it was great to be there, and it was good
actually to have the officiating minister the day was Andrew Hoggarty,
of course, the Associate Minister of Agriculture. It was really
nice of him to turn up because he got to

(01:20:21):
pick which day he wanted to go to and which crew.
And there's like ten of us at each sitting, you know,
Dame Cindy Caro has a morning and an afternoon sitting.
And he looked through the list and he saw Murray King,
who was recognized for his services to the dairy industry,
and myself, and he thought, I'll go along because I
know those two buggets. So it was it was great

(01:20:41):
to have Andrew there. It was wonderful to meet Dame
Cindy Kero. She's so welcoming down to earth and no
heirs and graces. I was worried I'd make a cl
cup and break etiquette somehow, but she relaxed everybody. She
was wonderful but at the highlight. I shouldn't say the highlight, Eather,
but I did flick you through a week text before.

(01:21:02):
I don't know if you've seen it. The menu for
the what was the best?

Speaker 4 (01:21:06):
The best?

Speaker 19 (01:21:07):
But was the scarms with cream and jam. I don't
know where they came from or who caters for Government House,
but I would kill for those. I would kill for
those again and not far behind them the asparagus cheese roll.

Speaker 4 (01:21:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:21:20):
Yeah, honestly, the high tea was wonderful. And the other
highlight for me Heather, because when I saw who was
in our group, I think we got one of the
most exciting people of all the people awarded, and we
got Sir Peter Beck.

Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
And our group the Rocket Lab goy.

Speaker 19 (01:21:36):
You know, he's the guy's going to have huge influence
over what happens in the world. Yeah, he got a knight,
he's Sir Peter Beck. Yeah he got the gong, he
got the sword from Dame Cindy. So it was wonderful.
But I was I thought, here's my chance to sneak
ay interview with him. But I didn't want to be
a fan boy, and everyone said, don't be a fan boy,

(01:21:58):
don't make it dick of yourself. Luckily his mum and
it's from imper Cargoo. She'd listened to Hoganilli over the years.
She wandered up and said, grateful see another Southlander here,
and that was my opportunity here that I seized it.
Sir Peter came running past. I said, excuse me, sir Peter,
You've got a couple of minutes. And he was brilliant.
So I recorded away interview for my show tomorrow with him.

(01:22:19):
Real highlight meeting.

Speaker 3 (01:22:21):
Jamie, congratulations. I know that makes you feel extremely uncomfortable
because you're a self lamm but you do deserve it.
You realize that am.

Speaker 4 (01:22:30):
Well.

Speaker 19 (01:22:30):
You do have imposter syndrome, Heather, but you never look
at gift thoughts in the mouth. And I'm very proud
for my family.

Speaker 3 (01:22:36):
Never turned down a feed, Jamie. Thank you very much,
Jamie Mackay, Host of the Country. I've married, I've married
into a good family. Now he's just lifted the tones
because a marriage to his cousin. So thank God for that,
because I was for a while there, I was like,
what have I done? And then now we've got an
officer of the New Zealand Order of merit with this massive.

Speaker 14 (01:22:53):
Gong' heatherdo for see Allen lady sober once removed.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
Well, totally yeah, I'm likely for her majesty pretty much.
Headline's next.

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Speaker 4 (01:23:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:23:21):
The sec.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Here that we built a bike shed at the hospital
that I work at and included some retaining woolwork, which
is quite expensive. Fully covered twenty three thousand dollars. We
thought that was super flash but expensive. Well, Mike Munroe
asked me how much would I spend on a bike crackle.
There's my answer now, and that twenty three thousand dollars,
not five hundred thousand. Speaking of which you will remember

(01:23:50):
that yesterday on the show, I told you that if
we're mental, the Irish are just as mental because they
do similar things. John is listening from Ireland. He says
he's He says Tory would be a savior over here.
Please see link below for details. I clicked on it.
It's the same story. John sent us the story about
what's going on with the bike shed over there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:09):
What was it?

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
I worked it out yesterday. I can't remember. It's three
hundred and thirty six thousand pounds of euro actually, I
think it works out of like six hundred thousand over
there in New Zealand dollars. Anyway, into Brady being Iris
is just going to talk about it very shortly when
he's with us the Titanic. I thought this was fascinating.
Apparently the Titanic is rusting. I didn't know that this
could happen underwater, but apparently it doesn't. It doesn't work

(01:24:31):
quite the same way as it does above water. How
it rusts down there is it's basically bacteria that get
on the iron and start eating it. And they've been
down recently to have a look at the Titanic and
they've got some recent images and it shows bits of
the ship of breaking away. But it's only the iron
ironed by the looks of things, not the brass and
the tile and stuff like that. So what's going to
happen in the end is that many many years from now,

(01:24:53):
it has just been the smudge of iron oxide left
behind after the bacteria has done their stuff, and there's
just going to be tiles and toilet and brass chairs
and stuff a brass fittings, just all sitting around in
the smudge of iron oxide. It will, though, fortunately, take
a lot of time. We will all be dead before
this happens, most likely between two hundred and eighty and
four hundred and twenty years before we get to that

(01:25:14):
place twenty two away from.

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Seven together duple clos.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
So something quite weird is going on in the US economy.
The big drivers of the US economy being the housing market,
the consumer, and the goods and services sectors are all
running apparently at very different speeds. Under the hood. Sam
Dickey from Fisher Funds is with us. He's been having
a look at it.

Speaker 25 (01:25:31):
A Sam good evening.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Okay, so let's look at each of these ones individually.
So let's look at the housing market. What parts of
it are running at different speeds?

Speaker 25 (01:25:40):
Yes, super interesting, weird. As you said, under the hood,
they are in extremely different speed. So take new build
or new home sales. Those numbers are at decade highs,
so ten year highs, whereas the number of existing or
secondhand home sales are at ten year lows. In fact,
existing home sales are at twenty five year lows.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
And what about the US by the way, can you
explain then why is that happening?

Speaker 25 (01:26:05):
Yeah, So it's to do with the rapid rise and
mortgage rates. So if you think about it, most people
who own home in the US sign mortgages, or I
think for the eighty or ninety percent of them sign
mortgages below three percent, So they're sitting on two and
a half three percent mortgage rates, and the prevailing morge
rate in the US is sort of was seven and
a half percent now about six and a half percent.

(01:26:26):
So the only reason and that mortgage is fixed for
thirty years, so the only reason you'd have to refinance
that is if you sold your house and moved. So
even though you might have to move for a job
or whatever, you're just not selling your house, so you're
trapped in your mortgage. Whereas that people do need housing
demandments this household formation every year in the US, so
that the new homes of satiating that demand.

Speaker 3 (01:26:49):
What about the US consumer then, what are you seeing
under the hood there?

Speaker 25 (01:26:53):
So the midden high end consumers in pretty good health.
So overall retail sales in the US about three percent,
which is very solid, certainly to new Zealand anyway, and
the mid and high end consumers probably growing faster around
four percent, but the low end consumer is in pain
and their spending is probably flat or going backwards, so
they're effectively in recession.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Yeah, and that's pretty self explanatory, right, we can figure
out why that is and what's going on with the
freight market.

Speaker 25 (01:27:19):
Yes, we've got in a decent freight recession in the
US for the past eighteen to twenty four months. So
I think about the volume of goods transported, they've been
pretty anemic, and freight rates have been falling pretty sharply.
In the manufacturing sector, which is part and parcel of
a very weak freight market, has effectively been in recession. However,
that the service is part of the economy, and again

(01:27:40):
this is the two speeding nature of this. A lot
of these key drivers has been very strong, So think
of services as finance, healthcare, restaurants, their travel with that
part of the US economy has thankfully been booming.

Speaker 3 (01:27:51):
Why has it been booming?

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Well, so.

Speaker 25 (01:27:56):
Particularly talking about that, remember the back end of COVID.
You during OVID, the back end popped COVERD. We talked
about this before. We all wanted to buy goods. You
remember this, global supply chains were all snarled up, So
if you're aboarding one bike, the bike shop ordered three,
and it was big waiting less on everything from boats
to car parks around the world. And then, as is
always the case with these kind of Bullworth effects, the

(01:28:19):
supply chains unsnarled and all the invantry arrived at once.
And by that stage we didn't want these bikes and
more we were more interested in going to restaurants and
traveling and all that good stuff. So we had this
huge kind of glutt of goods inventory around the world,
and that's taken eighteen to twenty four months to unwine
and hents the freight market in the US, which carries

(01:28:40):
all these rounds in recession.

Speaker 3 (01:28:41):
I see, Okay, Now, I can't imagine that this is
normal at all?

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Is it?

Speaker 8 (01:28:46):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:28:47):
Usually?

Speaker 25 (01:28:47):
I mean, the driver's under the pout of any set
that can move a little bit in different directions, but
that this extreme sort of dispersion is quite unusual.

Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
What does it mean for investors? Sam, What should investors
take from this?

Speaker 25 (01:29:04):
I just think that we just need to be aware
that the global economy still isn't working properly. I know
you and I have talked about this quite a few times.
We need to be more cautious than usual on Macroek
four pasts and more cautious than usual nets. You know
if you study in the company and its history, that
that history won't necessarily repeat because this is quite a
weird economic cadence.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Run right now, Sam, thank you as always, really appreciate
your very interesting insights into what's going on that Sam
Dickey official funds right Indebrady is with us shortly eighteen,
ayway from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Radio UK correspondents with us Evening Ender.

Speaker 8 (01:29:51):
Hey, have a good evening to you, do you reckon?

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
We're going to see criminal prosecutions in the Greenfield tragedy.

Speaker 8 (01:29:56):
Yes, eventually. Look, the families have been wanting this for
seven years. That's how long they've waited for the Public
Inquiry to report back. It is front page news absolutely
everywhere here and the report is scathing. I'm sure you've
covered it already, but you know, It lays bare the
systemic failures, the lies, the greed of the cladding companies,

(01:30:18):
the construction companies, the failure of humanity really in the
local council and its leadership and London Fire Brigade, the
issues they had with leadership and advice given on the night.
Basically all the Groundfell families have been so badly let down.
They're putting their trust now in Keir Starmer, who has
promised them there will be justice. And I think the

(01:30:40):
big difference now is that the UK Prime Minister is
an ex prosecutor. He was head of the Crown Prosecution Service.
He knows what he's talking about. He knows what needs
to happen to see criminal prosecutions. So it may take
two or three more years. But the key line from
the Metropolitan Police in London is that they are reading
that report sixteen hundred and ninety four pages, line by

(01:31:03):
line to identify where they can go with their investigation.

Speaker 3 (01:31:07):
And who do you think would be most likely to
be prosecuted.

Speaker 8 (01:31:10):
I think initially you're going to see perhaps corporate manslaughter
charges perhaps against some people. From what I'm hearing, the
police have a list of nineteen companies or organizations that
they're interested in and fifty eight individuals, so they know
who they're after, they know where they are, and they

(01:31:30):
know what they need to do. But the families cannot
be let down anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:31:35):
I mean I was there.

Speaker 8 (01:31:36):
I mean never ever forget seeing Grenfelle for the first
time the aftermath, to see something like that happen in
a city as wealthy as this, in a country as
rich as this, to see something as utterly disgraceful as
what happened at Grenfelle, and it was all because of
the multiple fail failures. But them, I don't know how

(01:31:57):
the families have kept going and I salute their resilience and.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
That I have been dying to talk to you about
the bush shelter since I spotted it, yees today, What
do you make of it?

Speaker 8 (01:32:06):
Well, I spoke to a few politicians in Dublin overnight
and people are bewildered, very angry, and just wondering who
on earth signed off on this. So for a listeners
who perhaps haven't seen, I know you've had expensive bike shelters.
In the past six hundred thousand en Z dollars the
Irish government has spent on a bike rack for cycling

(01:32:27):
politicians now have a Google around Irish politicians. They're not
the fittest looking bunch. As you can imagine expenses, nice bars, hotels,
Dublin lifestyle. They're never going to win the Tour de France.
Let's be frank here. And our government has decided to
spend in a cost of living crisis, in a housing
emergency where we don't have enough homes for Irish people.

(01:32:49):
The government has spent six hundred thousand dollars on a
bike rack. I just cannot believe. It's not even made
of gold.

Speaker 3 (01:32:56):
No, it's not even a good one, not even a
good one. No, it's not even got three walls, it's
only got one. It's basically a canopy.

Speaker 8 (01:33:03):
Yeah yeah. And from speaking to people yesterday, there's about
a dozen cyclists in the politically community in government, so
go figure.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Yeah, well we just we just popped one up in
Wellington for five hundred and sixty thousand dollars. So you know,
I'm starting, do you know what, I'm starting to form
a theory that we have spirit animals on the other
side of the world, like quite capable of making stupid,
like equally stupid decisions.

Speaker 8 (01:33:25):
You know what, I mean, I'm starting to think I'm
in the wrong business. Bike shelters is obviously the way
forward by for gullible people. I'm just honestly, I'm just
so so angry where I'm from and from a small
market town, country town in the southeast of Ireland called
Enniscorthy and County Export. I guarantee you if someone give
me six hundred thousand dollars right now, I reckon I

(01:33:48):
could get three family homes, not a word of a lie.
I could get three families housed for that in nice surroundings,
in a nice part of town with a little garden
and a nice life.

Speaker 3 (01:33:58):
That puts it in context. Hey, I see the Oasis
have broken this silence finally, and they're going to do
a couple more shows at Wimbley and the shows are
going to be for people who missed out in the
ticket Master at debacle. Are you going to go for
these tickets?

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
Do you know what?

Speaker 8 (01:34:11):
However, I'm not. I'm kind of sick of Oasis this week.
Everything that has gone on, the lack of leadership, the
lack of communication with the fans, and as I said
earlier in the week, you know, working class people ripping
off working class people, so I'm going to take a
step back from that. Good luck to them. I wonder
how they will distribute tickets, and I'm starting to think.
I spoke to my mother in law the other day

(01:34:32):
and she told me that she has memories of queuing
up in Ipswich town in Suffolk when she was a
teenager to get tickets for the Beatles. And she said
it was a matter of getting there late at night
and camping on a street and getting there, being in
the queue first thing in the morning and you've got
tickets to see the Beatles. She did that twice, and
I'm starting to think, is that how we beat the

(01:34:53):
butts and the corporates that you know, tickets will be
on sale and they'll go on sale at seven am
and people can just queue up, and I think that
solves the problem.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Yeah, the old school way, Inda, thank you very much, appreciated.
Look after yourself. That's into Brady, our correspondent out of
the UK. Yeah, Oasis has said it's going to be
invitation only, these tickets, these two gigs at Wembley, invitation only,
and a ballot process for people who missed out. Quite
how they do that, I don't know, I think they
just realized how bad this was for their pr So
Reagun Raygun did her first interview the project, as we

(01:35:23):
said at the very start of the program, and she
says she knew she was going to lose.

Speaker 10 (01:35:29):
Yeah, I knew my chances were slim. As soon as
I qualified, I was like, oh my gosh, what have
I done? Because I knew that I was going to
get beaten, and I knew that people were not kind
of understand my style.

Speaker 1 (01:35:41):
And what I was going to do.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
And then she went and did the kangaroo dance anyway,
and this is why she did it.

Speaker 10 (01:35:47):
I wanted to bring out some Australian moves and themes.
You know, I love our Olympic mascot BK the boxing Kangaroo,
and I wanted to show that. And that's the wonderful
thing about breaking. You can take inspiration from any source.

Speaker 3 (01:36:07):
I think she knew she was going to lose, and
she was like, listen, if I'm going to lose, I
am just going to become I'm going to be the
worst version of myself that I possibly can be. That's
my theory. But that doesn't really square with the fact
that she still thinks that she's the best B girl
in Australia.

Speaker 1 (01:36:22):
Well, I think my record speaks to that.

Speaker 10 (01:36:26):
You know, I was the top ranked Australian big girl
in twenty twenty and twenty twenty two and twenty twenty three.

Speaker 11 (01:36:33):
I've been invited to represent.

Speaker 10 (01:36:34):
At how many World Championships Paris, Korea, you know, So the.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
Record is there, The record is there. The record is
there at the Paris Olympics zero eight away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
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Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
How many bikes could they give out to rate pays
for the cost of that bike shelter? Rob, very good question.
How many pipes could they fix for the cost of
the bike shelter? I think the opportunity cost is the
thing they should have thought about that anyway. Listen, very
interesting research on generations and what they're into when it
comes to that.

Speaker 23 (01:37:32):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
So this is going to surprise you. This is going
to surprise you, and this is legit. It comes from
the Kinsey Institute at Indiana University, and Kinsey Institute is
famous because they did the Kinsey Scale where they basically
plot out, you know, from zero to six whether you're
heterosexual or homosexual, blah blah blah. Anyway, so we've got
lots of credibility. He came of all of the adult
generations who are off sexy time age currently. Guess which

(01:37:56):
ones prefer monogamy like, which ones are like, my fabeavorite
thing to do is monogamy? Guess which one? The young ones, it's.

Speaker 11 (01:38:04):
The gen z is.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05):
These are the kids under twenty seven years old. Twenty
seven percent of them want fidelity. That's their favorite, that's
their favorite category. The baby boomers are the ones who
are into the friends with benefits the most, twenty seven percent.
You naughty, naughty baby Boomers. I was not expecting that.
I was expecting it to be the other way around. No,

(01:38:26):
it's the baby boomers who are like, I just want
to be your mate and you know, Netflix and chill
with you anyway. They want that more than monogamy. By
the way, gen X, which is the generation forty four
to fifty nine, they prefer what they call ethical non monogamy.
Now I don't that's twenty four percent of them. I
think ethical non monogamy is basically when you have an
open relationship, so you're in a relationship, but both of

(01:38:46):
you agreed at being open, or maybe you're swinging, you know,
with your pineapple upside down, whatever is going on there.
And for the millennials it's also ethical non monogamy is
the favorite at twenty seven percent. So there you go,
flows your mind. So if I'm just giving you reasons
not to hate on the gen Zs, the gen z
Is of all of us are the most wholesome ants.

Speaker 14 (01:39:04):
Oh possibly just the ones who are the only ones
who are naive enough and you know, romantic enough to
think that they could possibly find anyone who will.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
Stay loyal to so cynical at such a young age.

Speaker 14 (01:39:16):
Speaking of people who are cynical at such a young age.
This is the new song from Benny. It's called Sad Boy.
This is her brand speaking new out, just out today
and it's her first release since twenty twenty three. She
said she wanted to make a nice, peppy, summery tune with.

Speaker 10 (01:39:29):
A dark meaning.

Speaker 3 (01:39:31):
What's the dark maning?

Speaker 14 (01:39:32):
Oh, it's just it seems like it's a bit of
a toss it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Oh he's a nice she thinks he's a nice boy.

Speaker 11 (01:39:37):
That he's not.

Speaker 3 (01:39:37):
Sad boy, Oh, sad boy. Enjoy Benny's actually very very good.
So enjoy this and I'll see tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
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