September 6, 2024 • 10 mins
Newstalk ZB Canterbury Sports reader Nick Bewley and NZB Kiwi Head of Communications Andrew Gourdie join the huddle.
They discuss the AB’s v Springbok’s test, old school tours of South Africa, Israel Adesanya’s parking controversy, and Raygun’s first interview post-Olympic Games.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southby's international realty,
unparalleled reach and results.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The opportunity to play fall back and give Sivu's world
class wing with with Marke Kalley. He goes pretty well
as well, so they said, mixed for us. My name
is Wallace, played for the Chiefs and SABA this year,
played number for the Chiefs and hopefully a bit of
physicality this week.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
A lot of the responses though, is also just due
to people not being very familiar with breaking and the
diversity of approaches on the sports tititle with us this
evening and got Nick Nearly News to ZB Canterbury Sports
Freeta and Andrew Gordy are in z be key we head
of communications. How are you lads? I hear it all
(00:51):
right now, Gordy. I bumped into you this morning, didn't.
I were out for a walk out for a walk
along the just promenading and you were. I got discussing
Raiser and you and I have agreed that we're going
to cut him some slack unlike Liam.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yes, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Definitely cutting him some slack.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Hither.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I've got no problems with that whatsoever about he's new
to the job, okay, and you've got to give the
guys some time to be it in. But I have
it's funny that we're bringing this up. I've been really
surprised at how unwilling some people are to cut him
some slack. I was down in christ Church only a
few weeks ago at an event down there, and people
were watching around the table as they fell to defeat,
obviously against Argentina and a room full of Cantabrians. I
(01:31):
couldn't believe how many people were saying Razor has got
to go bring back Fozzy. I don't know what's going
on down there at christ Church, pure Lee, but I
could not believe what I was hearing. I mean, he's
only new to the job. Give him some time for
good two?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Nick?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Can you explain it? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I can't explain that. I feel like that's treason. Isn't
it to be ordered back over the cook straight? But look,
I'm on the same sort of song sheets to Gordy there. Look,
this is the first year of a Ragby will cut cycle.
It's buying larger opportunity to experiment in a way you
want to play and who you want to be there
playing this week for example, you know, having a guy
(02:07):
like Wallace Attititi really out of the wilderness, getting a
real introduction into international rugby, first start at blind side,
flank at first start full stop Will Jordan a second
test start at fullback. So and this is against the
two time world champion. So I think some slack needs
to be cut. As you were alluding to earlier that
I think it's the nature of however they play as opposed.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
As a site that you're want something here.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
This is what I think that there is nothing to
be ashamed about losing to the two time world champions
at Alice Park in front of however many thousand people
thereby a few points. Yes, they blew it in the
last fifteen minutes and they have acknowledged that. But at
this by the same token, if they were to lose
by seven points or less this weekend, I think some
slack needs to be cut totally.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So Nick is onto something there, grudy, because it's not
it's not that you lose, it's how you lose. So
what are we looking for from the All Blacks, even
in even if we lose the game, what are we
looking forward to convince us that yes, we're onto something here.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well yeah, as Nick says, it's the style of play.
But also coming back to what Liam said, Razor doesn't
really know what his first choice fifteen is yet and
we're probably not going to find that out for quite
some time yet. But what's the panic here? What is
the panic? Like we're after a World Cup year, this
is the year that you use to bed in your
first choice playing fifteen and you start of the play.
(03:25):
So I'm not I'm almost writing this season off.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
To be perfect.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The whole season.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
One thing I will say, though, Well I'm not going
to say the whole season, but you know I'm going
to cut in some slack for a year, That's what
I'm saying. But look, you look at the selection of
wals Titi. I mean, it's hilarious. Even in your intro,
they're hearing him having to effectively introduce himself to the media.
You may not have heard of me, but I'm starting
at blindside flanker for the All Blacks this week. Look,
that is the kind of selection and we'll see how
(03:50):
it goes. I'm excited by the selection personally. I think
whals the Titi is a player with massive potential he's
clearly an explosive player, but that is the sort of
selection that for Scott Robertson, it's sort of lived by
the sword, died by the sword. That's either going to
go great or it's going to backfire spectacularly, and he
will need to be there and stand and answer the
questions if that doesn't come off, but I certainly hope
(04:10):
it does for both As and Wallace's sake.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, Okay, explain the governance stuff to me. What is
this compromise?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Are we close the option?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Honestly?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Sare that?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I swear every time I answer the phone from ant
asking me to come on this panel, there is another
update and the sorry governance saga it is just becoming
a running joke. But look, I'm relatively pleased to inform
the listeners out there. It looks like some compromise and
some common sense has been reached. Looks like we are
going to move forward now that we have a couple
(04:40):
of adjustments to what was initially voted through proposal to
by the provincial unions, and that being around that provincial
experience not necessarily just has to be on the board
now it can be on the executive. So I think
that's a that will make our friend Rob Nickel at
the Players Association relatively happy. And then having the New
New Zealand's Schools and the New Zealand Rugby Foundation involved
(05:03):
as well on the government's governance panel taking it to ten.
So a couple of little adjustments there. It looks like ultimately,
you know, there's people here that were never going to
agree on every little detail, and some collaboration and some
common sense is finally provailed. So I think this is
a win.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I just hope now that we do.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Get a very good New Zealand Rugby board to addrease
some massive issues in the game, we get the transformational
change we're all after you.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Thank god he explained it to us, Gordy, because now
I understand it got so deep in the weeds, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Oh, it's ridiculous here. And as someone put it to
me earlier, actually good made of Mind said, it's with
what's been going on with New Zealand Rugby and all
the stakeholders in the last few months. It's been like
watching your house being down and arguing with your neighbor
about who started it. It doesn't really matter, but you've
got a much much bigger problem here. Cut the crab,
put your differences aside and come to some kind of
agreement that's going to get this sport moving forward. But look, yeah,
(05:57):
clearly compromise has been made on both sides, but I
don't think we would have reached agreement if if all
parties weren't to some degree at least happy.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
The Friday Sports title with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty
Exceptional Marketing for every property.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Twelve away from six Back to the Sports Hatle Andrew Gordon,
Nick Buley Andrew GORDI did you see what happened to
israel A Designia on K.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Wrote, I did.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I did.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And it's astonishing, isn't it. Imagine having such a brain
cell deficiency here that that you would You would be
driving along and you bark at someone in a McLaren
and then you stop and naturally decide to have an
argument with them. Outsteps israel A to Sonia and you
still back yourself to beat them in a fight. I
can't quite get my head around that. But actually, based
on what I've seen and based on what's been said
and written, and that's all I can go off so far,
(06:40):
I thought. I thought I was perfectly happy with how
Israel handed and handled himself. Told me guy to walk away. Yeah, sure,
a bit of ething and blinding and whatnot, and maybe
pull the finger and stuff like that. But I mean,
I've seen much much worse, and in fact, the city's
seen much much worse in the last sup of twenty
four hours. So I think you did it. I think
he did absolutely fine.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yes, it's weird.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Darcy was suggesting to me when he was an earlier
nick that actually, this kind of thing does happen to
sports stars from time to time, and he knew of
some who'd actually would wander around the city with the
security guard to stop it happening. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I think sadly here that we live in a generation
a bit like with keyboard Warriors, where someone can just
whip out a phone and they think they're a hero
because they can say this, that and the other thing
without any real consequence, and it would have probably taken everything.
As a son, you had to hold back because obviously
he must have known if he actually did act on
what he wanted to do, the fall our people would
(07:32):
have called him a thug. You know. Sponsors etc. Wouldn't
have been happy. But I just can't. Yeah, like Gordy
was saying, can't grasp why someone would do that to anyone,
let alone Israel out to Son.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I've had Gordy a little bit of a little bit
of resistance on the text machine to calling Raygun an
athlete an athlete, look.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
As she an athlete, I don't know, but she's an
icon and a superstar in my eyes. I mean, as
we were saying earlier today, Mate, I can't name you
a single other breakdancer from the Olympic Games, but Raygun
as a superstar. She didn't need to win a gold, silver,
or bronze medal to make a name for herself out
of these Olympic Games. I love it. I absolutely love her.
(08:13):
I love her attitude. I actually, I actually really love
her attitude to what she did at the Olympic Games.
Even she knew she wasn't going to win any kind
of medal, so she did something that was going to
stand out and make a name for herself and she's
absolutely achieved that. So or all credit to her.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, and do you know what, Nick, I'm coming up
with the theory that your reaction to Raygun says everything
about you and how you view the world. And I
loved I loved her. What about you, Nick, Now you're
on the spot. Did you love it?
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Oh? Yeah, I have no exception with ray Gun whatsoever.
And I think it says something to Gordy's point that
I don't even know what Raygun's name is. I just
know her as Raygun. It's Rachel something, isn't it? Sure? Okay,
there we go, right, she's basically she's as good as
seals as far as I'm concerned. She can go around
with one name. That's But look like she's capitalizing on
(09:03):
her moment, isn't she? And all power to her, Like,
surely there's new Balance or Nike or someone something accustomed
to break dancing and get on board and enjoy this moment? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
What one?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Why shouldn't you? But she's she's she's savoring the moment.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Of Famecaset your baby in the background, I heard.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Trying, Yeah, that that'll be my baby.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
We THEO coming up fifteen months. So how's it going here?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
How's it going?
Speaker 5 (09:29):
And join that juggle? Are you? We're getting into parenting
on the sports title? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Any tips for me?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Oh, Bordie, you've got you've got more children than me,
You've got double me. What's your tips for Nick?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I'll just say good luck, mate, good luck all the
very Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Just gets easy and.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Doing pretty well being on the radio right now and
also looking after a fifteen month old baby. So I
think you're nailing it.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Shout out to the boss, Missus Beauley. She's got everything
well under control. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't be the
It was just me.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I got two pieces of advice from from a girlfriend
that that pulled me through. Number One, it gets easier,
every single bit gets easier. And number two, everything's a phase.
So you just got it. You just lasted out, mate.
It might just be a couple of weeks and then
you're fine again.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Oh no, that's great stuff. Yeah, well, I think we
all do.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And yours are like basically twenty years old. Gordy, Hey, guys,
thank you. I really appreciated this. Nick Buley and Andrew
Gordi our sports title this evening.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southby's international realty,
unparalleled reach and results.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
The opportunity to play fall back and give Sivu's world
class wing with with Marke Kalley. He goes pretty well
as well, so they said, mixed for us. My name
is Wallace, played for the Chiefs and SABA this year,
played number for the Chiefs and hopefully a bit of
physicality this week.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
A lot of the responses though, is also just due
to people not being very familiar with breaking and the
diversity of approaches on the sports tititle with us this
evening and got Nick Nearly News to ZB Canterbury Sports
Freeta and Andrew Gordy are in z be key we head
of communications. How are you lads? I hear it all
(00:51):
right now, Gordy. I bumped into you this morning, didn't.
I were out for a walk out for a walk
along the just promenading and you were. I got discussing
Raiser and you and I have agreed that we're going
to cut him some slack unlike Liam.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yes, yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Definitely cutting him some slack.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Hither.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I've got no problems with that whatsoever about he's new
to the job, okay, and you've got to give the
guys some time to be it in. But I have
it's funny that we're bringing this up. I've been really
surprised at how unwilling some people are to cut him
some slack. I was down in christ Church only a
few weeks ago at an event down there, and people
were watching around the table as they fell to defeat,
obviously against Argentina and a room full of Cantabrians. I
(01:31):
couldn't believe how many people were saying Razor has got
to go bring back Fozzy. I don't know what's going
on down there at christ Church, pure Lee, but I
could not believe what I was hearing. I mean, he's
only new to the job. Give him some time for
good two?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Nick?
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Can you explain it? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I can't explain that. I feel like that's treason. Isn't
it to be ordered back over the cook straight? But look,
I'm on the same sort of song sheets to Gordy there. Look,
this is the first year of a Ragby will cut cycle.
It's buying larger opportunity to experiment in a way you
want to play and who you want to be there
playing this week for example, you know, having a guy
(02:07):
like Wallace Attititi really out of the wilderness, getting a
real introduction into international rugby, first start at blind side,
flank at first start full stop Will Jordan a second
test start at fullback. So and this is against the
two time world champion. So I think some slack needs
to be cut. As you were alluding to earlier that
I think it's the nature of however they play as opposed.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
As a site that you're want something here.
Speaker 5 (02:31):
This is what I think that there is nothing to
be ashamed about losing to the two time world champions
at Alice Park in front of however many thousand people
thereby a few points. Yes, they blew it in the
last fifteen minutes and they have acknowledged that. But at
this by the same token, if they were to lose
by seven points or less this weekend, I think some
slack needs to be cut totally.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
So Nick is onto something there, grudy, because it's not
it's not that you lose, it's how you lose. So
what are we looking for from the All Blacks, even
in even if we lose the game, what are we
looking forward to convince us that yes, we're onto something here.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Well yeah, as Nick says, it's the style of play.
But also coming back to what Liam said, Razor doesn't
really know what his first choice fifteen is yet and
we're probably not going to find that out for quite
some time yet. But what's the panic here? What is
the panic? Like we're after a World Cup year, this
is the year that you use to bed in your
first choice playing fifteen and you start of the play.
(03:25):
So I'm not I'm almost writing this season off.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
To be perfect.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
The whole season.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
One thing I will say, though, Well I'm not going
to say the whole season, but you know I'm going
to cut in some slack for a year, That's what
I'm saying. But look, you look at the selection of
wals Titi. I mean, it's hilarious. Even in your intro,
they're hearing him having to effectively introduce himself to the media.
You may not have heard of me, but I'm starting
at blindside flanker for the All Blacks this week. Look,
that is the kind of selection and we'll see how
(03:50):
it goes. I'm excited by the selection personally. I think
whals the Titi is a player with massive potential he's
clearly an explosive player, but that is the sort of
selection that for Scott Robertson, it's sort of lived by
the sword, died by the sword. That's either going to
go great or it's going to backfire spectacularly, and he
will need to be there and stand and answer the
questions if that doesn't come off, but I certainly hope
(04:10):
it does for both As and Wallace's sake.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, Okay, explain the governance stuff to me. What is
this compromise?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Are we close the option?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Honestly?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Sare that?
Speaker 5 (04:20):
I swear every time I answer the phone from ant
asking me to come on this panel, there is another
update and the sorry governance saga it is just becoming
a running joke. But look, I'm relatively pleased to inform
the listeners out there. It looks like some compromise and
some common sense has been reached. Looks like we are
going to move forward now that we have a couple
(04:40):
of adjustments to what was initially voted through proposal to
by the provincial unions, and that being around that provincial
experience not necessarily just has to be on the board
now it can be on the executive. So I think
that's a that will make our friend Rob Nickel at
the Players Association relatively happy. And then having the New
New Zealand's Schools and the New Zealand Rugby Foundation involved
(05:03):
as well on the government's governance panel taking it to ten.
So a couple of little adjustments there. It looks like ultimately,
you know, there's people here that were never going to
agree on every little detail, and some collaboration and some
common sense is finally provailed. So I think this is
a win.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I just hope now that we do.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Get a very good New Zealand Rugby board to addrease
some massive issues in the game, we get the transformational
change we're all after you.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Thank god he explained it to us, Gordy, because now
I understand it got so deep in the weeds, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Oh, it's ridiculous here. And as someone put it to
me earlier, actually good made of Mind said, it's with
what's been going on with New Zealand Rugby and all
the stakeholders in the last few months. It's been like
watching your house being down and arguing with your neighbor
about who started it. It doesn't really matter, but you've
got a much much bigger problem here. Cut the crab,
put your differences aside and come to some kind of
agreement that's going to get this sport moving forward. But look, yeah,
(05:57):
clearly compromise has been made on both sides, but I
don't think we would have reached agreement if if all
parties weren't to some degree at least happy.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
The Friday Sports title with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty
Exceptional Marketing for every property.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Twelve away from six Back to the Sports Hatle Andrew Gordon,
Nick Buley Andrew GORDI did you see what happened to
israel A Designia on K.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Wrote, I did.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I did.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And it's astonishing, isn't it. Imagine having such a brain
cell deficiency here that that you would You would be
driving along and you bark at someone in a McLaren
and then you stop and naturally decide to have an
argument with them. Outsteps israel A to Sonia and you
still back yourself to beat them in a fight. I
can't quite get my head around that. But actually, based
on what I've seen and based on what's been said
and written, and that's all I can go off so far,
(06:40):
I thought. I thought I was perfectly happy with how
Israel handed and handled himself. Told me guy to walk away. Yeah, sure,
a bit of ething and blinding and whatnot, and maybe
pull the finger and stuff like that. But I mean,
I've seen much much worse, and in fact, the city's
seen much much worse in the last sup of twenty
four hours. So I think you did it. I think
he did absolutely fine.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Yes, it's weird.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Darcy was suggesting to me when he was an earlier
nick that actually, this kind of thing does happen to
sports stars from time to time, and he knew of
some who'd actually would wander around the city with the
security guard to stop it happening. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I think sadly here that we live in a generation
a bit like with keyboard Warriors, where someone can just
whip out a phone and they think they're a hero
because they can say this, that and the other thing
without any real consequence, and it would have probably taken everything.
As a son, you had to hold back because obviously
he must have known if he actually did act on
what he wanted to do, the fall our people would
(07:32):
have called him a thug. You know. Sponsors etc. Wouldn't
have been happy. But I just can't. Yeah, like Gordy
was saying, can't grasp why someone would do that to anyone,
let alone Israel out to Son.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I've had Gordy a little bit of a little bit
of resistance on the text machine to calling Raygun an
athlete an athlete, look.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
As she an athlete, I don't know, but she's an
icon and a superstar in my eyes. I mean, as
we were saying earlier today, Mate, I can't name you
a single other breakdancer from the Olympic Games, but Raygun
as a superstar. She didn't need to win a gold, silver,
or bronze medal to make a name for herself out
of these Olympic Games. I love it. I absolutely love her.
(08:13):
I love her attitude. I actually, I actually really love
her attitude to what she did at the Olympic Games.
Even she knew she wasn't going to win any kind
of medal, so she did something that was going to
stand out and make a name for herself and she's
absolutely achieved that. So or all credit to her.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Yeah, and do you know what, Nick, I'm coming up
with the theory that your reaction to Raygun says everything
about you and how you view the world. And I
loved I loved her. What about you, Nick, Now you're
on the spot. Did you love it?
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Oh? Yeah, I have no exception with ray Gun whatsoever.
And I think it says something to Gordy's point that
I don't even know what Raygun's name is. I just
know her as Raygun. It's Rachel something, isn't it? Sure? Okay,
there we go, right, she's basically she's as good as
seals as far as I'm concerned. She can go around
with one name. That's But look like she's capitalizing on
(09:03):
her moment, isn't she? And all power to her, Like,
surely there's new Balance or Nike or someone something accustomed
to break dancing and get on board and enjoy this moment? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
What one?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Why shouldn't you? But she's she's she's savoring the moment.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Of Famecaset your baby in the background, I heard.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Trying, Yeah, that that'll be my baby.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:26):
We THEO coming up fifteen months. So how's it going here?
Speaker 1 (09:29):
How's it going?
Speaker 5 (09:29):
And join that juggle? Are you? We're getting into parenting
on the sports title? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Any tips for me?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Oh, Bordie, you've got you've got more children than me,
You've got double me. What's your tips for Nick?
Speaker 4 (09:42):
I'll just say good luck, mate, good luck all the
very Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Just gets easy and.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Doing pretty well being on the radio right now and
also looking after a fifteen month old baby. So I
think you're nailing it.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
Shout out to the boss, Missus Beauley. She's got everything
well under control. So I wouldn't. I wouldn't be the
It was just me.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I got two pieces of advice from from a girlfriend
that that pulled me through. Number One, it gets easier,
every single bit gets easier. And number two, everything's a phase.
So you just got it. You just lasted out, mate.
It might just be a couple of weeks and then
you're fine again.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Oh no, that's great stuff. Yeah, well, I think we
all do.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
And yours are like basically twenty years old. Gordy, Hey, guys,
thank you. I really appreciated this. Nick Buley and Andrew
Gordi our sports title this evening.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
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the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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