September 11, 2024 • 5 mins
Today's highly-anticipated face-to-face presidential debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump included a heated back-and-forward over inciting political violence.
Stand-out moments included inaccurate statements about abortion rights and Trump repeating his running mate's baseless claim immigrants were eating people pets.
ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper says there's no debate to be had - Harris won this round.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Barry So, Senior political correspondence with US Ay Barry, Good afternoon.
I guess that you think that Kamala Harris will debate.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, there's no guess because you know that. I think
you know the fact of the matter is that the
big question and the lead up to this debate was
was Carmla Harris going to be a match for Donald Trump?
That was the question. She was more than a match.
She flawed the man. The man was like a Joe Biden,
sitting there grumpy and almost looking as though he was
(00:29):
going to sleep at times, probably inwardly fuming. Though the
moderators I heard Dan mention about them pushing back against Trump,
but they were being sensible because he was talking so
much rubbish that was clearly disputable, and they on a
(00:49):
couple of occasions disputed what he had said before moving
to Carmala Harris. But look, here's bits of the debate
edited by me phirly heavily of.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Course vice presidential pick, which I think is a horrible
pick by the way, for our country because he is
really out of it. But her vice presidential pick says
abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also
says execution after birth. It's an execution. No longer abortion
because the baby is born is okay, And that's not
(01:20):
okay with me.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
There is no state in this country where it is
legal to kill a baby after it's born, not a
vice president.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Want to get your response to President Trump.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch
of lies. And that's not actually a surprising fact.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs the people that came in,
They're eating the cats, they're eating the pets of the
people that live there.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Talk about extreme I.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Probably took a bullet to the head because of the
things that they say about me. They talk about democracy,
I'm a threat to democracy.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
What is important is that there is a president who
actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting
people up and not beating people down and name calling.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
She went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals
that killed people, that burned down Minneapolis. She went out
and raised money to get him out of jail. She
did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she
wants to do transgender operations or illegal aliens that are
in prison.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there
will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of
this election is not to his liking. Let's turn the
page on this, Let's not go back. Let's chart a
course for the future.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Here here to that, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean what we were hoping for was some political analysis.
That's why you can a vote.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Of course I don't have a vote, but honestly, you
could have picked out so many more stupid things that
Trump said. I mean, I think he's lost it. And
you think Joe Biden in the last debate was bad,
I think Donald Trump was equally as bad, if not worse.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Which is going for you actually, because you've been a
long time Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You know, because I Trump. I followed Trump in his
first campaign for the White House against Hillary Clinton, and
I've got to say, you know, I thought that Hillary
Clinton would beat him because I thought nobody could vote
a man that has thoughts like Donald Trump and as
an out and out misogynist and somebody that you wouldn't
(03:40):
have around your dinner table. But they did. They voted
him in, and the Americans were so loyal to him.
When I challenged a few of them, the terrorists who
were back here in New Zealand, I got my head
bitten off that Donald Trump was just amazing. Well, I'm sorry,
you know from where I said. I look at politics,
and I have done for many years. I have never
(04:02):
seen a person like Trump running for such an important offs.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Have you managed to look at the Treaty Principal's Bill,
the ones that have been agreed to the Treaty principles?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, well no, I haven't looked at the bill, but
I heard you mentioning I've got audio, but I won't
play it because we're probably running out of time. But
because it came up in the House today, and David Seema,
you'll be aware of the poll that was taken earlier
this year. It was a Curier poll that showed to
sixty two percent of labor supporters were in favor of
(04:33):
the Treaty Principal's Bill. Yeah, and sixty six percent of
national were in favor. So I was waiving that about
today when he was being questioned by Willie Jackson. But
look that six months select committee time. That can be
cut back quite easily because the National Party will chair
the committee that considers it. But if they've run out
(04:56):
of submissions, it's going to be very hard for them
to extend it, you're going to run out of well,
you know, somebody very senior in Parliament told me the
other day that he thought probably four months. But even
at four months.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's a long time.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It'll go over the go over White Tangy weekend and
that'll you know, there'll be problems up at White Tangy
because of it. So it certain he is causing a
few problems, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But I'm fascinated that he's managed to get this one
over the line for that long.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
From the nets, well, you know, it's it's form when
a bill is referred to a select committee. Six months.
Six months is the time that's written. But you know
it can be sure, it can be longer. But you
know they're giving him what is expected of a bill
when it goes to a select committee.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Barry, thank you very much, really appreciate it, very so
for senior political correspondent.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
For more from Hither Duplessy allan Drive, listen live to
news talks.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
Barry So, Senior political correspondence with US Ay Barry, Good afternoon.
I guess that you think that Kamala Harris will debate.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Well, there's no guess because you know that. I think
you know the fact of the matter is that the
big question and the lead up to this debate was
was Carmla Harris going to be a match for Donald Trump?
That was the question. She was more than a match.
She flawed the man. The man was like a Joe Biden,
sitting there grumpy and almost looking as though he was
(00:29):
going to sleep at times, probably inwardly fuming. Though the
moderators I heard Dan mention about them pushing back against Trump,
but they were being sensible because he was talking so
much rubbish that was clearly disputable, and they on a
(00:49):
couple of occasions disputed what he had said before moving
to Carmala Harris. But look, here's bits of the debate
edited by me phirly heavily of.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Course vice presidential pick, which I think is a horrible
pick by the way, for our country because he is
really out of it. But her vice presidential pick says
abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. He also
says execution after birth. It's an execution. No longer abortion
because the baby is born is okay, And that's not
(01:20):
okay with me.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
There is no state in this country where it is
legal to kill a baby after it's born, not a
vice president.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Want to get your response to President Trump.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well, as I said, you're going to hear a bunch
of lies. And that's not actually a surprising fact.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs the people that came in,
They're eating the cats, they're eating the pets of the
people that live there.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Talk about extreme I.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Probably took a bullet to the head because of the
things that they say about me. They talk about democracy,
I'm a threat to democracy.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
What is important is that there is a president who
actually brings values and a perspective that is about lifting
people up and not beating people down and name calling.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
She went out in Minnesota and wanted to let criminals
that killed people, that burned down Minneapolis. She went out
and raised money to get him out of jail. She
did things that nobody would ever think of. Now she
wants to do transgender operations or illegal aliens that are
in prison.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election, there
will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of
this election is not to his liking. Let's turn the
page on this, Let's not go back. Let's chart a
course for the future.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Here here to that, okay.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean what we were hoping for was some political analysis.
That's why you can a vote.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Of course I don't have a vote, but honestly, you
could have picked out so many more stupid things that
Trump said. I mean, I think he's lost it. And
you think Joe Biden in the last debate was bad,
I think Donald Trump was equally as bad, if not worse.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Which is going for you actually, because you've been a
long time Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
You know, because I Trump. I followed Trump in his
first campaign for the White House against Hillary Clinton, and
I've got to say, you know, I thought that Hillary
Clinton would beat him because I thought nobody could vote
a man that has thoughts like Donald Trump and as
an out and out misogynist and somebody that you wouldn't
(03:40):
have around your dinner table. But they did. They voted
him in, and the Americans were so loyal to him.
When I challenged a few of them, the terrorists who
were back here in New Zealand, I got my head
bitten off that Donald Trump was just amazing. Well, I'm sorry,
you know from where I said. I look at politics,
and I have done for many years. I have never
(04:02):
seen a person like Trump running for such an important offs.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Have you managed to look at the Treaty Principal's Bill,
the ones that have been agreed to the Treaty principles?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah, well no, I haven't looked at the bill, but
I heard you mentioning I've got audio, but I won't
play it because we're probably running out of time. But
because it came up in the House today, and David Seema,
you'll be aware of the poll that was taken earlier
this year. It was a Curier poll that showed to
sixty two percent of labor supporters were in favor of
(04:33):
the Treaty Principal's Bill. Yeah, and sixty six percent of
national were in favor. So I was waiving that about
today when he was being questioned by Willie Jackson. But
look that six months select committee time. That can be
cut back quite easily because the National Party will chair
the committee that considers it. But if they've run out
(04:56):
of submissions, it's going to be very hard for them
to extend it, you're going to run out of well,
you know, somebody very senior in Parliament told me the
other day that he thought probably four months. But even
at four months.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
It's a long time.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
It'll go over the go over White Tangy weekend and
that'll you know, there'll be problems up at White Tangy
because of it. So it certain he is causing a
few problems, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
But I'm fascinated that he's managed to get this one
over the line for that long.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
From the nets, well, you know, it's it's form when
a bill is referred to a select committee. Six months.
Six months is the time that's written. But you know
it can be sure, it can be longer. But you
know they're giving him what is expected of a bill
when it goes to a select committee.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Barry, thank you very much, really appreciate it, very so
for senior political correspondent.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
For more from Hither Duplessy allan Drive, listen live to
news talks.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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