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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eleven past five.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Together Duper clan.
Speaker 1 (00:02):
Alkamer Wayne Brown's come up with an alternative plan for
a second harbor crossing for the city. He reckons it
should go from Point chev directly across to the north shore,
which is Cody Point. The beauty of his plan is
that eighty percent of this bridge would be built on
an existing reef. Now Bill mackay is a senior lecturer
of Architecture and Planning at the University of Auckland with
us now hi Billa Heather is building on the reef
(00:25):
a smart idea.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Wayne Brown's an engineer and this is a real engineer's
approach to things, looking for the shortest point and the
cheapest structure rather than like the environmental impact and also tomulate,
where's it really fitther into the needs for a sued
harber crossing.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Well, okay, so so cost wise and simplicity He wins
on that one. What's the problem?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
No, because can I cost wise? He's saying like a
bridge rather than the tunnel. But he's not taking into
account I don't think the approaches to it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
You need feeder roads into point Cheven.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Out the outside, building a motorway right up the middle
of Puince Scheverley Road, acquiring properties, that kind of thing.
John Tammerherry at the mayor election election or two ago,
he was talking about the double decker bridge. Looks good
in the diagram, but when you think about the approaches,
(01:30):
how do we get the cars there? Detracts all of
that kind of thing. It becomes much much for me.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Give it a score out of ten for me?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Bill four? Why so long? Because he's not also taking
into account the environmental impact.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Oh, never mind that. Take that out, Bill, assume I
don't care, because I don't If you take the environment out,
what score are you giving it? Now?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, Well, have a look at all the Aukland motorways
and there is one thing that determines the path of
the motorway and Auckland the least, the path of least
political resistance. Yeah, so can I motorways go through mangroves,
they go through cemeteries, they go through places where poor
(02:17):
people live. They do not go through middle class or can.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I you know the middle class suburbs like pointshap Or
where the greenees are going to get where?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
And time is also money, so can I? You know?
The pushback from the locals and all of that kind
of thing means, you know, it's a hiding to nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's good to talk to you mate, Thank you really appreciable. MacKaye,
Senior Lecture of Architecture and Planning, University of Walklands. For
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