October 1, 2024 • 7 mins
Australian police have launched a probe related to the appearance of Hezbollah flags at pro-Palestine rallies that took place over the weekend.
Victorian police reported that flags representing Hezbollah were seen being carried by a small group who weren't affiliated with the protest organisers.
Australian correspondent Murray Olds says police are looking for calls to incite violence from these off-shoot groups - as carrying the organisation's symbol is prohibited.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business and Australian corresponding. Murray Olds is
all with us this afternoon, GEO Murray.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hello Jack in afternoon, right, so talk to.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Us a bit more about this call to ban terrorist
flags being waived at protests.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, and you know, for the last twelve months there's
been a pro Palestinian group in Australia that's been staging
rallies anti Israeli rallies, it must be said, in.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Pro Palestinian rallies.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
And there were two well, in fact there were more
than two, but the two biggest on the weekend on
Sunday Melbourne and in Sydney, and both Sydney and Melbourne
there were Hesbalah flags waved and apparently I did not
see these, but Hummas flags waved as well. Currently in
Australia those flags may not be displayed in public because
(00:50):
both organizations prescribed terrorist organizations. You can't waive this stuff
in public. But here's the big butt. There more than
a couple of people waving flags. They need incitement to
racial vilification or incitement to violence. Then they can go
and bust some heads. Press charges and prosecute. So in
(01:11):
New South Wales two years ago the government, the conservative
government of.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The day, passed anti Nazi laws.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Right, so you can't do Nazi salutes, you can't have
Nazi flags, you can't have any of that Nazi nonsense
on the streets of New South Wales. And the opposition
leader this morning, I spoke to him very early and
he said, guess what if there's a whole on the
federal law that bans these flags, Lets pass laws resemble
(01:39):
the anti Nazi legislation we passed at state level two
years ago. Now will the federal government go down this
path and outlaw and even you know, equate Hesbalah flags?
How amos flags with Nazi paraphernalia. Peter Dutton, the opposition leader,
he's going straight out of the Tony Abbot's playbook.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
He says, guess what. The government is.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Too gutless to go down this path because guess why
You've got lots and lots of Muslim voters in Sydney's
western suburbs and Melbourne's western suburbs, and the labor government
anthey Alberinezi does not want to upset those people. As
we head in an election. Yeah, so look it is. Look,
it's very very difficult atmosphere. You feel sorry for the
(02:21):
police they have to try and deal with these There
were thirty thousand people in Sydney jack on Sunday now,
so it's not small. It's a big deal and these
flags are being waved around.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And it's only going to get more more complex, isn't it, Murray,
Because I mean, let's be totally clear. I know there
are many people in Lebanon who are totally opposed to
his BOLLA, but there are so many Lebanese Australians. These
are really big communities. And now seeing that, you know,
these Israeli troops on the ground in southern Lebanon and
(02:51):
you know, continuing to shell parts of Beirute, I mean
this is only going to get more.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Complex, absolutely, one hundred percent right, It's only going to
get a lot more complex. I was in Beroute not
long after the end of the Civil War when the
new South Wales government sent a whole bunch of public
senior public servants in charge of water, sanitation, electricity, road
making all this stuff to try and repair this beautiful
city of Beirut. Because the joint was just a mess
(03:18):
that had been smashed to smithereens in the Civil War,
and we're seeing the same thing happen again.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Now a major retailer has announced it's closing two hundred stores.
I thought two hundred stores, what is this going to
be like Azara or a sports Girl or something like that,
But no, this is Rockman's autograph w Lane. Still, two
hundred stores nationwide isn't insignificant.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And I'm very happy you know all these brands. Jack.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I didn't know you're in touch of your feminine fashion
side there, because I must say I've never heard of Mosaic.
Apparently it's been listed on the Stock Exchange for quite
some time. News Come this afternoon says that Mosaic has
been suspended from trading because it failed to hit a
deadline to post its annual results. Here's the thing, how
(04:07):
bus is going to be because Mosaic And I must
admit I'd never heard of Mosaic, to be honest, but look,
there are four thousand staff. It closed a couple of
hundred stores a year ago. Apparently it's really struggling. Four
thousand staff. It's still got around seven hundred stores. Apparently
around Australia. But how deep are these cuts going to go?
Because it's a lot of jobs and obviously trouble times
(04:30):
for fashion retail, bricks and mortar. But you go to
the other side, the online side, and all the young
people I work with tell us that's where they buy
their clothes these days.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Online.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You mean, you don't murray, But I.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Don't buy clothes anymore. If I get a pair of
jeens a year, I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Buy any more. Closed.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Jordan Pattaya is going to pursue a career in the
NFL with the backing of the Queensland Reds.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Look he's a he is a problematic rugby union player.
At his best he's a star, a total star. But
look he keeps getting injured, which is not as fault.
I mean, it's just the way he's built. He's very,
very you know, as one of these slender outside backs
as I was for Christy's Boys high school.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
When you get those.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Big, meaty, meat headed forwards running into you, it does hurt.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
He hasn't played for Queensland a year, hasn't played with
the Wallabies either, But as I say, on his day
he's a fabulous player. So he approached the Queensland Reds.
Could I seek a release? They said, go your harder.
So what he's going to do is go to the
United States in January. The National Football League's got something
over there called the Player Pathway, the International Player Pathway
(05:46):
camp in January. That's where Patia is going to go.
And apparently they get people from all over the world
who go and try out their luck in the NFL.
The last player to do quite well there was Jared Haynes,
rugby league star here of course, and he played for
the San Francis Go forty nine ers over ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah was that ten years ago? No?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Twenty fourteen, fifteen? I'm pretty sure that fast.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It doesn't that's insane, isn't IOUs? It felt in my
bones like only two or three years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But there you go.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Thank you Murray. That is Australian correspondent Murray Olds for
this this afternoon. Thank you for your feedback as well.
So parking fines are up today, Jack consider putting up
parking fines. Why don't they put up speeding fine, says Colleen.
They're currently pathetic. They're far more dangerous than parking That
is a I mean, that is not an unreasonable point, Colleen.
Is the purpose of, like you said, take a really
expensive parking fine, right, so one for parking in a
(06:40):
disabled spot. We can all agree if you're not disabled,
you shouldn't be parking in a disabled spot. Seven hundred
and fifty bucks. That's the fine now. But if you
compare that to a speeding fine, which is arguably more
dangerous for the public at large, I guess, depending on
the circumstances, then there is a good argument to be
made that maybe they're a little bit out of whack.
Thank you for that. Ninety two ninety two is the
(07:01):
text number if you want to get in touch for
talking to politics. Barry Soper and next Score at five
on News Talks. He'd be for more from Hither Duplessy
Allen Drive, Listen live to Newstalks i'd Be from four
pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business and Australian corresponding. Murray Olds is
all with us this afternoon, GEO Murray.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hello Jack in afternoon, right, so talk to.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Us a bit more about this call to ban terrorist
flags being waived at protests.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, and you know, for the last twelve months there's
been a pro Palestinian group in Australia that's been staging
rallies anti Israeli rallies, it must be said, in.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Pro Palestinian rallies.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
And there were two well, in fact there were more
than two, but the two biggest on the weekend on
Sunday Melbourne and in Sydney, and both Sydney and Melbourne
there were Hesbalah flags waved and apparently I did not
see these, but Hummas flags waved as well. Currently in
Australia those flags may not be displayed in public because
(00:50):
both organizations prescribed terrorist organizations. You can't waive this stuff
in public. But here's the big butt. There more than
a couple of people waving flags. They need incitement to
racial vilification or incitement to violence. Then they can go
and bust some heads. Press charges and prosecute. So in
(01:11):
New South Wales two years ago the government, the conservative
government of.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
The day, passed anti Nazi laws.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Right, so you can't do Nazi salutes, you can't have
Nazi flags, you can't have any of that Nazi nonsense
on the streets of New South Wales. And the opposition
leader this morning, I spoke to him very early and
he said, guess what if there's a whole on the
federal law that bans these flags, Lets pass laws resemble
(01:39):
the anti Nazi legislation we passed at state level two
years ago. Now will the federal government go down this
path and outlaw and even you know, equate Hesbalah flags?
How amos flags with Nazi paraphernalia. Peter Dutton, the opposition leader,
he's going straight out of the Tony Abbot's playbook.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
He says, guess what. The government is.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Too gutless to go down this path because guess why
You've got lots and lots of Muslim voters in Sydney's
western suburbs and Melbourne's western suburbs, and the labor government
anthey Alberinezi does not want to upset those people. As
we head in an election. Yeah, so look it is. Look,
it's very very difficult atmosphere. You feel sorry for the
(02:21):
police they have to try and deal with these There
were thirty thousand people in Sydney jack on Sunday now,
so it's not small. It's a big deal and these
flags are being waved around.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And it's only going to get more more complex, isn't it, Murray,
Because I mean, let's be totally clear. I know there
are many people in Lebanon who are totally opposed to
his BOLLA, but there are so many Lebanese Australians. These
are really big communities. And now seeing that, you know,
these Israeli troops on the ground in southern Lebanon and
(02:51):
you know, continuing to shell parts of Beirute, I mean
this is only going to get more.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Complex, absolutely, one hundred percent right, It's only going to
get a lot more complex. I was in Beroute not
long after the end of the Civil War when the
new South Wales government sent a whole bunch of public
senior public servants in charge of water, sanitation, electricity, road
making all this stuff to try and repair this beautiful
city of Beirut. Because the joint was just a mess
(03:18):
that had been smashed to smithereens in the Civil War,
and we're seeing the same thing happen again.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Now a major retailer has announced it's closing two hundred stores.
I thought two hundred stores, what is this going to
be like Azara or a sports Girl or something like that,
But no, this is Rockman's autograph w Lane. Still, two
hundred stores nationwide isn't insignificant.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
And I'm very happy you know all these brands. Jack.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
I didn't know you're in touch of your feminine fashion
side there, because I must say I've never heard of Mosaic.
Apparently it's been listed on the Stock Exchange for quite
some time. News Come this afternoon says that Mosaic has
been suspended from trading because it failed to hit a
deadline to post its annual results. Here's the thing, how
(04:07):
bus is going to be because Mosaic And I must
admit I'd never heard of Mosaic, to be honest, but look,
there are four thousand staff. It closed a couple of
hundred stores a year ago. Apparently it's really struggling. Four
thousand staff. It's still got around seven hundred stores. Apparently
around Australia. But how deep are these cuts going to go?
Because it's a lot of jobs and obviously trouble times
(04:30):
for fashion retail, bricks and mortar. But you go to
the other side, the online side, and all the young
people I work with tell us that's where they buy
their clothes these days.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Online.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
You mean, you don't murray, But I.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Don't buy clothes anymore. If I get a pair of
jeens a year, I'm doing well.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Buy any more. Closed.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Jordan Pattaya is going to pursue a career in the
NFL with the backing of the Queensland Reds.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
That's right, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Look he's a he is a problematic rugby union player.
At his best he's a star, a total star. But
look he keeps getting injured, which is not as fault.
I mean, it's just the way he's built. He's very,
very you know, as one of these slender outside backs
as I was for Christy's Boys high school.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
When you get those.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Big, meaty, meat headed forwards running into you, it does hurt.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
He hasn't played for Queensland a year, hasn't played with
the Wallabies either, But as I say, on his day
he's a fabulous player. So he approached the Queensland Reds.
Could I seek a release? They said, go your harder.
So what he's going to do is go to the
United States in January. The National Football League's got something
over there called the Player Pathway, the International Player Pathway
(05:46):
camp in January. That's where Patia is going to go.
And apparently they get people from all over the world
who go and try out their luck in the NFL.
The last player to do quite well there was Jared Haynes,
rugby league star here of course, and he played for
the San Francis Go forty nine ers over ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Yeah was that ten years ago? No?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Twenty fourteen, fifteen? I'm pretty sure that fast.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
It doesn't that's insane, isn't IOUs? It felt in my
bones like only two or three years ago.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
But there you go.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Thank you Murray. That is Australian correspondent Murray Olds for
this this afternoon. Thank you for your feedback as well.
So parking fines are up today, Jack consider putting up
parking fines. Why don't they put up speeding fine, says Colleen.
They're currently pathetic. They're far more dangerous than parking That
is a I mean, that is not an unreasonable point, Colleen.
Is the purpose of, like you said, take a really
expensive parking fine, right, so one for parking in a
(06:40):
disabled spot. We can all agree if you're not disabled,
you shouldn't be parking in a disabled spot. Seven hundred
and fifty bucks. That's the fine now. But if you
compare that to a speeding fine, which is arguably more
dangerous for the public at large, I guess, depending on
the circumstances, then there is a good argument to be
made that maybe they're a little bit out of whack.
Thank you for that. Ninety two ninety two is the
(07:01):
text number if you want to get in touch for
talking to politics. Barry Soper and next Score at five
on News Talks. He'd be for more from Hither Duplessy
Allen Drive, Listen live to Newstalks i'd Be from four
pm weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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