October 17, 2024 • 8 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, Nick Mills from ZB's Wellington Mornings and broadcaster Mark Sainsbury joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
Former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has officially received her Damehood, with Prince William presenting the award in a ceremony this morning. How do we feel about this? Does Jacinda deserve this?
Mayor Tory Whanau and Local Government Minister Simeon Brown met this morning amid threats of Government intervention at Wellington City Council. Simeon is keeping quiet on any actions he's considering - what do we think will happen next?
Do we shop on Temu? Why do people love it so much? Is it better or worse than buying cheap products from Kmart?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Holy by the way, in the Cricket twelve for three.
So maybe we'll all just retract the comments we made
about the black Caps doing badly. It looks like it's
actually going like unseasonably well. Nick Mills, Wellington Mornings host
and Mark Sainsbury broadcaster is with us on the huddle.
Hull are you.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Too right to both of you?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Says how are you feeling about? Just so you triggered?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Look the thing with just and I mean there's two
things and you it's great you nailed both of them.
One was I was really surprised she took it to
begin with the Dame, because you know, Helen Clark would not,
Jim Bolger would not, you know. And I found it
really really hot. And as you say, well, you could
argue you're going to use it to you know, gives
you a bit of status to do greater good. I mean, look,
(00:50):
and the other thing is she is regarded totally differently
overseas than what she is here. There's a lot of
people here who just simply hate it. And I remember
when they're remember running in the Grant Roberts at once
some it was a book launch, just something, and he
said to me the DPS have told him not to
leave the building for two days. Thinking. I remember thinking
at the time, is this what we've come to? So
there's all that sort of true Away from New Zealand,
(01:11):
I mean outside of New Zealand, she's very highly regarded.
Did lady used John Key as the same role?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I mean you could say it's all very well from
say that today today extend the hand to a former
prime minister who could be useful.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, it's a fair point that you make it. We
didn't and when John Key, I mean after John Key,
we're actually pretty fine. Fettal as a country, we're much
more stuffed and really need the pr at the moment,
what do you think, Nick, Are you triggered by her
or are you feeling just like chill vibes at the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I mean, I don't think anybody should get a dame
hood or a knighthood when you're under about fifty or
fifty five. I've got a real problem. I always thought
that there was a lifetime of commitment to something, a
lifetime of doing something to create that, So I've got
a real problem with these young people picking them up.
That's the first thing. Secondly, life changed for Jasinda Ardurm
when she opened a school in christ Church, well somewhere
(02:00):
down south. You remember it when she came in the
van and everyone was banging on the van. Oh you know,
she was just opening a school. I mean we've never
seen anything like that before in New Zealand. So yes,
she's very popular, or was very popular internationally. They thought
of her as this, you know, smart young woman that
was running this country and taking us through COVID and
(02:22):
what a great effort. But I think it was was.
I don't think it's current, and I think that Chippy's
living in the past. But if she thinks that she
can represent us and doing it, sure, I reckon.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
She's still a big deal overseas. I mean she was
at the on the sidelines of the Democratic Convention. The
Prince and Princess of Wales have made a video and
put it on their socials so that they can be
associated with her, and she's all over the newspapers. Man,
I reckon, she's got star pours door.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
She was sidelined. She was sidelined on that convention. That's
what it really got to me is they made a
big deal about it. She was out the back door
talking to someone that no one ever knew. It wasn't
a big deal.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Run a lot of stuff inside. But put it this way,
if they decide to have a New Zealand, we want
business to come to New Zealand, do it New Zealand
House in London? Would more people turn up I was
hosted by Jasinda Adurn Or would more people turn up?
I was hosted by Chris Luxen Cindy every day?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, but you're missing you're missing a very What about
Peter Jackson? Now put him in the equation and tell
me who would turn up.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Peter doesn't need to turn up there.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
But I'm saying, if you you want someone to actually
represent your land and say, hey, what a great city want?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
What about Lord Lord versus Jacinda?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well if you answer to that different crowd.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
And I think Beanie should get it. Oh good Lord
and a Dane hood that upset.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Gim Bark Satry, gim Bark sadriy at knighthood knighthood.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I come home with knighthoods for everyone and we'll take
a break, come back with these two votes. Shortly it's called.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
To the huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, elevate
the marketing of your home.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Back with the hud on Nick Mills and Mark Sainsbury.
Hey next, so, oh, hold on Saints.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I just pointed, would you take a dame hood?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, but I've got no principles. Would you? Would you?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, I call myself a Republican. I like think, no,
I wouldn't. I don't know if i'd like to be tested?
You think? Would this be upgrades for the rest of
your life?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Would you? Would you? Would you?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Of course? It?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Would you get business class? You get business crass those
new seats right at the front. Would you? Then, saying though,
if you got offered a knighthood, would you also insist
that William give it to you?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Look, I think I would say no. I would say
that I wouldn't get off the one in any case.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But no, can can I make a confession here?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You were off the one?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No? No, no, I've got one of the ones underneath it.
I've got an O to him. So that's I mean,
I've already sort of gone on that.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Realm ndition or just a brag.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, no, I'm I'm just actually playing with a straight
are you, republic Would you take a night out? You know?
Would I take a night now? Because I don't. I'm
not deservant of one. If I was deserved of one,
I would definitely take it. I mean, I'm not deservant
of one, and I wouldn't take it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Okay, Hey, next, so what are you reckons going to
happen here with the council?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Are you getting the vibes that the Government's going to
intervene and that Tory has not at all convinced to
mean today?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Can I tell you firstly that your interview with Tim
Brown is one of the best interviews of my whole life.
I have played it back more than I've played a
Beatles song back.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I appreciate that from you because your interview with Tory
was outstanding and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Well, it's not the mutual answer society here, but admiration
society here. But no, and I'm going to I'm going
to say this really really clearly, nothing is at very
very worse than it won't happen untill no, it's not
going to even happen. That they would put an observer
in like it's nearly Christmas. Right in Wellington. It's nearly Christmas,
it's nearly the end of the year. Nothing's going to
happen before the end of the year. Then we're back
(05:45):
at February March, before everyone puts their feet under the table.
Then it's April, May, June, July, August, before an election.
They won't do a damn thing. They will just put
it back on Willingtonian's to vote the right way at
the next election, now, you know, and some of me
says that's the right thing to do. It is a disaster.
I watched that special meeting. I've never wasted three hours
of my life ever before, the same way that the
(06:09):
actual council is. The whole council is an absolute disaster.
It really is. But I mean, if Simon hasn't done anything, now,
when is he going to do something?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I reckon he does something by the end of the
night sayings, I'll tell you what. What I think was
fascinating is so Tory calls a meeting with Simeon to
try to stop him intervening. Then she has the meeting
with Simeon and they don't even mention government intervention. Isn't
that weird?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
It's very weird. Well it's you know, like, don't mention
the war, the most telling thing that has been And Tolly,
you know who was brought in this commissioner across in
total and she made that. I mean that it's a
very big step to take it. It is a very
very big step. And it's politically risky as well. You
got a lot of voters are going to go, what
are you doing interfering? They're our sort of stuff up
to leave them to us. So I agree with Nick.
(06:54):
I think they'll think no, I think they'll hold off.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay, interesting, have you brought anything at t musains O?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
What I was crap? I mean it's it's like a drug.
You can't you go, God, that's cheap or that could
be good by I brought this whole. I bought a
floating boar, a floating floating ball like a little drone thing,
which is about fourteen bucks and it floats around. But
look it's made out of you know, match sticks or something.
As soon as it hits something that shatters, super super cheap.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
How much fun did you have with that?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I had quite a bit of fun.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Did you. Is it the kind of thing that you
enjoy when you drunk too much?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah? But like that?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, all right, I hear that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah. Can I just say something that we've all forgotten?
But you know, who's everyone in one into everyone? Who's
everyone's talking about? Who's going to run for me next
year in Wellington? Rachel on the guy that you're looking
at right now.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Same So I've had from there.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I don't listen.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I had a call from ZIBB yesterday. I had another
one from Stuff to day. They head me down as
I you said, oh, you're you're on a ticket with
Diane Calvert.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I said, I haven't met her.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I don't know it.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean, where does this running for me?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I'm not running for me yet, but I'm like Nick
and I have talked about, very very concerned about where
it's going.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You make a really good mayor, you'd.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Have to be convinced. I mean not only because the
only thing is you look at that. It's sort of
like I remember three years ago, someone tried said me,
why don't you stand for me here? And you go
dysfunctional counsel in fighting billion dollar water problems and you know,
lack of financial expertise.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, listen, I reckon.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
We'll see it needs look, it needs to cheer.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, will you be the mayor and Nick and I will.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Help you your job cheer. I'll just do your Winston
and Seymour.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Now I love it all right, guys listen, thank you
very much, really appreciate you adding to you. And how
exciting is that gossip about Saints? So that's Mark Sainsbury
and Nick Mills.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to
news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
The Huddle with New Zealand Southerby's International Realty, local and
global exposure like no other.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Holy by the way, in the Cricket twelve for three.
So maybe we'll all just retract the comments we made
about the black Caps doing badly. It looks like it's
actually going like unseasonably well. Nick Mills, Wellington Mornings host
and Mark Sainsbury broadcaster is with us on the huddle.
Hull are you.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Too right to both of you?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Says how are you feeling about? Just so you triggered?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Look the thing with just and I mean there's two
things and you it's great you nailed both of them.
One was I was really surprised she took it to
begin with the Dame, because you know, Helen Clark would not,
Jim Bolger would not, you know. And I found it
really really hot. And as you say, well, you could
argue you're going to use it to you know, gives
you a bit of status to do greater good. I mean, look,
(00:50):
and the other thing is she is regarded totally differently
overseas than what she is here. There's a lot of
people here who just simply hate it. And I remember
when they're remember running in the Grant Roberts at once
some it was a book launch, just something, and he
said to me the DPS have told him not to
leave the building for two days. Thinking. I remember thinking
at the time, is this what we've come to? So
there's all that sort of true Away from New Zealand,
(01:11):
I mean outside of New Zealand, she's very highly regarded.
Did lady used John Key as the same role?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know?
Speaker 4 (01:17):
I mean you could say it's all very well from
say that today today extend the hand to a former
prime minister who could be useful.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, it's a fair point that you make it. We
didn't and when John Key, I mean after John Key,
we're actually pretty fine. Fettal as a country, we're much
more stuffed and really need the pr at the moment,
what do you think, Nick, Are you triggered by her
or are you feeling just like chill vibes at the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
I mean, I don't think anybody should get a dame
hood or a knighthood when you're under about fifty or
fifty five. I've got a real problem. I always thought
that there was a lifetime of commitment to something, a
lifetime of doing something to create that, So I've got
a real problem with these young people picking them up.
That's the first thing. Secondly, life changed for Jasinda Ardurm
when she opened a school in christ Church, well somewhere
(02:00):
down south. You remember it when she came in the
van and everyone was banging on the van. Oh you know,
she was just opening a school. I mean we've never
seen anything like that before in New Zealand. So yes,
she's very popular, or was very popular internationally. They thought
of her as this, you know, smart young woman that
was running this country and taking us through COVID and
(02:22):
what a great effort. But I think it was was.
I don't think it's current, and I think that Chippy's
living in the past. But if she thinks that she
can represent us and doing it, sure, I reckon.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
She's still a big deal overseas. I mean she was
at the on the sidelines of the Democratic Convention. The
Prince and Princess of Wales have made a video and
put it on their socials so that they can be
associated with her, and she's all over the newspapers. Man,
I reckon, she's got star pours door.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
She was sidelined. She was sidelined on that convention. That's
what it really got to me is they made a
big deal about it. She was out the back door
talking to someone that no one ever knew. It wasn't
a big deal.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Run a lot of stuff inside. But put it this way,
if they decide to have a New Zealand, we want
business to come to New Zealand, do it New Zealand
House in London? Would more people turn up I was
hosted by Jasinda Adurn Or would more people turn up?
I was hosted by Chris Luxen Cindy every day?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, but you're missing you're missing a very What about
Peter Jackson? Now put him in the equation and tell
me who would turn up.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Peter doesn't need to turn up there.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
But I'm saying, if you you want someone to actually
represent your land and say, hey, what a great city want?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
What about Lord Lord versus Jacinda?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Well if you answer to that different crowd.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
And I think Beanie should get it. Oh good Lord
and a Dane hood that upset.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Gim Bark Satry, gim Bark sadriy at knighthood knighthood.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I come home with knighthoods for everyone and we'll take
a break, come back with these two votes. Shortly it's called.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
To the huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, elevate
the marketing of your home.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Back with the hud on Nick Mills and Mark Sainsbury.
Hey next, so, oh, hold on Saints.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I just pointed, would you take a dame hood?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Yeah, but I've got no principles. Would you? Would you?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Well, I call myself a Republican. I like think, no,
I wouldn't. I don't know if i'd like to be tested?
You think? Would this be upgrades for the rest of
your life?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Would you? Would you? Would you?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Of course? It?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Would you get business class? You get business crass those
new seats right at the front. Would you? Then, saying though,
if you got offered a knighthood, would you also insist
that William give it to you?
Speaker 4 (04:24):
Look, I think I would say no. I would say
that I wouldn't get off the one in any case.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
But no, can can I make a confession here?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
You were off the one?
Speaker 3 (04:33):
No? No, no, I've got one of the ones underneath it.
I've got an O to him. So that's I mean,
I've already sort of gone on that.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Realm ndition or just a brag.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Well, no, I'm I'm just actually playing with a straight
are you, republic Would you take a night out? You know?
Would I take a night now? Because I don't. I'm
not deservant of one. If I was deserved of one,
I would definitely take it. I mean, I'm not deservant
of one, and I wouldn't take it.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Okay, Hey, next, so what are you reckons going to
happen here with the council?
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Are you?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Are you getting the vibes that the Government's going to
intervene and that Tory has not at all convinced to
mean today?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Can I tell you firstly that your interview with Tim
Brown is one of the best interviews of my whole life.
I have played it back more than I've played a
Beatles song back.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I appreciate that from you because your interview with Tory
was outstanding and I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Well, it's not the mutual answer society here, but admiration
society here. But no, and I'm going to I'm going
to say this really really clearly, nothing is at very
very worse than it won't happen untill no, it's not
going to even happen. That they would put an observer
in like it's nearly Christmas. Right in Wellington. It's nearly Christmas,
it's nearly the end of the year. Nothing's going to
happen before the end of the year. Then we're back
(05:45):
at February March, before everyone puts their feet under the table.
Then it's April, May, June, July, August, before an election.
They won't do a damn thing. They will just put
it back on Willingtonian's to vote the right way at
the next election, now, you know, and some of me
says that's the right thing to do. It is a disaster.
I watched that special meeting. I've never wasted three hours
of my life ever before, the same way that the
(06:09):
actual council is. The whole council is an absolute disaster.
It really is. But I mean, if Simon hasn't done anything, now,
when is he going to do something?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I reckon he does something by the end of the
night sayings, I'll tell you what. What I think was
fascinating is so Tory calls a meeting with Simeon to
try to stop him intervening. Then she has the meeting
with Simeon and they don't even mention government intervention. Isn't
that weird?
Speaker 4 (06:32):
It's very weird. Well it's you know, like, don't mention
the war, the most telling thing that has been And Tolly,
you know who was brought in this commissioner across in
total and she made that. I mean that it's a
very big step to take it. It is a very
very big step. And it's politically risky as well. You
got a lot of voters are going to go, what
are you doing interfering? They're our sort of stuff up
to leave them to us. So I agree with Nick.
(06:54):
I think they'll think no, I think they'll hold off.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay, interesting, have you brought anything at t musains O?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
What I was crap? I mean it's it's like a drug.
You can't you go, God, that's cheap or that could
be good by I brought this whole. I bought a
floating boar, a floating floating ball like a little drone thing,
which is about fourteen bucks and it floats around. But
look it's made out of you know, match sticks or something.
As soon as it hits something that shatters, super super cheap.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
How much fun did you have with that?
Speaker 4 (07:24):
I had quite a bit of fun.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Did you. Is it the kind of thing that you
enjoy when you drunk too much?
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Yeah? But like that?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, all right, I hear that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Yeah. Can I just say something that we've all forgotten?
But you know, who's everyone in one into everyone? Who's
everyone's talking about? Who's going to run for me next
year in Wellington? Rachel on the guy that you're looking
at right now.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Same So I've had from there.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
I don't listen.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
I had a call from ZIBB yesterday. I had another
one from Stuff to day. They head me down as
I you said, oh, you're you're on a ticket with
Diane Calvert.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
I said, I haven't met her.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
I don't know it.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I mean, where does this running for me?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
I'm not running for me yet, but I'm like Nick
and I have talked about, very very concerned about where
it's going.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
You make a really good mayor, you'd.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Have to be convinced. I mean not only because the
only thing is you look at that. It's sort of
like I remember three years ago, someone tried said me,
why don't you stand for me here? And you go
dysfunctional counsel in fighting billion dollar water problems and you know,
lack of financial expertise.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, listen, I reckon.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
We'll see it needs look, it needs to cheer.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Yeah, will you be the mayor and Nick and I will.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Help you your job cheer. I'll just do your Winston
and Seymour.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Now I love it all right, guys listen, thank you
very much, really appreciate you adding to you. And how
exciting is that gossip about Saints? So that's Mark Sainsbury
and Nick Mills.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive listen live to
news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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