October 21, 2024 • 5 mins
Chris Luxon is defending his Small Business Minister for not alerting him sooner over a complaint from a member of the public.
Andrew Bayly's apologised, after a worker claimed he'd told him to - 'Go home, take some wine, and F off' and later made the 'L' sign on his forehead.
The Prime Minister says he received the complainant's letter on Thursday, but isn't necessarily surprised he didn't hear about it before.
ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper says the media's going too hard in criticising Minister Bayly.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Barry sour pasing your political correspondence with us. Barry, Hello,
good afternoon. I was a scale of one to ten.
How hard is the press gallery going on the Prime
Minister over Andrew Bailey's outsign.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, you know, the first significant part of the post
cabinet news conference today was taken up with the gallery
questioning Luxon on how the Andrew Bailey issue was handled. Now,
the point that Luxon was making, and I think it's
a fair point that he when Luxon raised it with
(00:31):
him with Andrew Bailey, he apologized profusely. He had attempted
to do that earlier before it got to the Prime
Minister's office. But the person who complained obviously was doing
the round. To be clearly, this is politically motivated because
it didn't only go to the Prime Minister's office. The
complaint from this person where to all the other political leaders,
(00:55):
the Maldi Party, the Labor Party, the Greens. They all
got this complaint from this person. And you know, I
don't know what a minister has to do, but this
is to me like a dad joke gone terribly wrong.
And to expect a minister or a Prime minister to
say he should surrender his warrant because he made a
(01:18):
silly mistake at a factory is patently ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
On a scale of one to ten. How hard is
the media going because it sounds to me like they're
going quite hard.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh for Andrew basis like, as.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Far as the press gallery is concerned, this is a
really big deal and it's not you know, how about okay?
So how about this business about? So the insinuation and
has come around again. The insinuation is that the National
Party got in touch with Parliamentary Services and told Parliamentary
Services to withdraw the email from the Labour, Greens and
(01:53):
Marty Party. That's the allegation.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, it'd be too late, wouldn't it. I'd already have
the email and they don't have to surrender and email.
They got through this, So can.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I say, where's the proofs?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Gallery is asking an absolutely impossible thing to prove.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's theoretically possible, but there doesn't seem to be any
proof that announced did this.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
No, No, the other issues that recovered and this was
the main one, which is ridiculous. Simeon Brown. He's received
advice from his advisors on the Wellington City Council what
to do there he said he'll be now considering it.
Team New Zealand. The Prime Minister was asked about are
we going to put up any money to Team New
(02:34):
Zealand to host the event here? Prime Minister right, and
he says, well, that's over to Team New Zealand where
it's hosted. You know, they're open to having discussions with them,
and that's as far as it can take it can go.
There's Solicitor General the guidelines that you put out to
the Judiciary saying that mild he appears before them, they
(02:55):
have to take special notice on ethnicity grounds. The primes said, look,
everybody is equal under the law and he's pleased that
the Solicitor General has seen sense and withdrawn that.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh he's pleased. Judith tidied it up that well, Judith,
clearly Judith tidied it up. Nobody wants to go toe
to toe with Judith Collins. Chogham has start an SAMOI
am massive when.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You think about you know, the Commonwealth Heads of Government
meeting being in a tiny Pacific country. They're expecting an
RP of four thousand people. The four hundred and sixty
personnel are being supplied by New Zealand itself. Defense police
ambulances even are being shipped out to ship's probably wrong
(03:39):
in Simul's case, but they're being sent to assist in
what is a massive meeting. I've been to these Commonwealth
heads of government meeting, which I like to call chaps
holiday on government money because and they will certainly do that.
In Samoa, King Charles is there, and the Queen Elizabeth
used to go to many of the cholgers until she
(04:02):
got a bit long in the tooth to travel. I
remember the first one I went to was in the Bahamas,
of all places, in Nassau in nineteen eighty five with
David Longhi and the Britannia was birth there. Now, you know,
when you look at the scale of these things in
a tiny little country like Samoh hosting it, I think
(04:23):
it's incredible and it will, I guess, as Winston Peters
would say, highlight you know, the Pacific itself and a
small country in the Pacific, because chogham has never been
held in a country as small as salmol before. Really
is it? Never? No? Never?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Amazing? Hey, very quickly, what do you make of the
Health Ministry Cannopse?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh, well, i'd like to taste one. It was thirty
two dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
No, it's notty dollars a cannope, it's per head, so
you'd have.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It was written as though it was thirty four dollars,
and I know they were sam They would have been
terribly expensive for that if that was the case. But look,
this came at a time was inappropriate, at a time
when the Health Ministry was complaining about major deficits and
going into the red in a big way. And they
(05:15):
hold a conference giving out Canape's nine two hundred dollars
lunch and breakfast sixty thousand dollars. I mean they locked
after the health boffins pretty well.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Very thanks very much, very so for senior political correspondent.
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Barry sour pasing your political correspondence with us. Barry, Hello,
good afternoon. I was a scale of one to ten.
How hard is the press gallery going on the Prime
Minister over Andrew Bailey's outsign.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, you know, the first significant part of the post
cabinet news conference today was taken up with the gallery
questioning Luxon on how the Andrew Bailey issue was handled. Now,
the point that Luxon was making, and I think it's
a fair point that he when Luxon raised it with
(00:31):
him with Andrew Bailey, he apologized profusely. He had attempted
to do that earlier before it got to the Prime
Minister's office. But the person who complained obviously was doing
the round. To be clearly, this is politically motivated because
it didn't only go to the Prime Minister's office. The
complaint from this person where to all the other political leaders,
(00:55):
the Maldi Party, the Labor Party, the Greens. They all
got this complaint from this person. And you know, I
don't know what a minister has to do, but this
is to me like a dad joke gone terribly wrong.
And to expect a minister or a Prime minister to
say he should surrender his warrant because he made a
(01:18):
silly mistake at a factory is patently ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
On a scale of one to ten. How hard is
the media going because it sounds to me like they're
going quite hard.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh for Andrew basis like, as.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Far as the press gallery is concerned, this is a
really big deal and it's not you know, how about okay?
So how about this business about? So the insinuation and
has come around again. The insinuation is that the National
Party got in touch with Parliamentary Services and told Parliamentary
Services to withdraw the email from the Labour, Greens and
(01:53):
Marty Party. That's the allegation.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, it'd be too late, wouldn't it. I'd already have
the email and they don't have to surrender and email.
They got through this, So can.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I say, where's the proofs?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Gallery is asking an absolutely impossible thing to prove.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
It's theoretically possible, but there doesn't seem to be any
proof that announced did this.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
No, No, the other issues that recovered and this was
the main one, which is ridiculous. Simeon Brown. He's received
advice from his advisors on the Wellington City Council what
to do there he said he'll be now considering it.
Team New Zealand. The Prime Minister was asked about are
we going to put up any money to Team New
(02:34):
Zealand to host the event here? Prime Minister right, and
he says, well, that's over to Team New Zealand where
it's hosted. You know, they're open to having discussions with them,
and that's as far as it can take it can go.
There's Solicitor General the guidelines that you put out to
the Judiciary saying that mild he appears before them, they
(02:55):
have to take special notice on ethnicity grounds. The primes said, look,
everybody is equal under the law and he's pleased that
the Solicitor General has seen sense and withdrawn that.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Oh he's pleased. Judith tidied it up that well, Judith,
clearly Judith tidied it up. Nobody wants to go toe
to toe with Judith Collins. Chogham has start an SAMOI
am massive when.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
You think about you know, the Commonwealth Heads of Government
meeting being in a tiny Pacific country. They're expecting an
RP of four thousand people. The four hundred and sixty
personnel are being supplied by New Zealand itself. Defense police
ambulances even are being shipped out to ship's probably wrong
(03:39):
in Simul's case, but they're being sent to assist in
what is a massive meeting. I've been to these Commonwealth
heads of government meeting, which I like to call chaps
holiday on government money because and they will certainly do that.
In Samoa, King Charles is there, and the Queen Elizabeth
used to go to many of the cholgers until she
(04:02):
got a bit long in the tooth to travel. I
remember the first one I went to was in the Bahamas,
of all places, in Nassau in nineteen eighty five with
David Longhi and the Britannia was birth there. Now, you know,
when you look at the scale of these things in
a tiny little country like Samoh hosting it, I think
(04:23):
it's incredible and it will, I guess, as Winston Peters
would say, highlight you know, the Pacific itself and a
small country in the Pacific, because chogham has never been
held in a country as small as salmol before. Really
is it? Never? No? Never?
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Amazing? Hey, very quickly, what do you make of the
Health Ministry Cannopse?
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Oh, well, i'd like to taste one. It was thirty
two dollars.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
No, it's notty dollars a cannope, it's per head, so
you'd have.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
It was written as though it was thirty four dollars,
and I know they were sam They would have been
terribly expensive for that if that was the case. But look,
this came at a time was inappropriate, at a time
when the Health Ministry was complaining about major deficits and
going into the red in a big way. And they
(05:15):
hold a conference giving out Canape's nine two hundred dollars
lunch and breakfast sixty thousand dollars. I mean they locked
after the health boffins pretty well.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Very thanks very much, very so for senior political correspondent.
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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