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November 13, 2024 6 mins

There's outrage from Auckland commuters, as a hīkoi working its way down to Parliament marched over the Harbour Bridge and added to traffic issues.

NZTA was forced to close some lanes on the bridge and people were delayed in their morning commutes. 

Newstalk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper unpacks the political causes that inspired the hīkoi. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Barry's oper senior political correspondence with US Now, Hi Barry,
good afternoon. All right, So that he koy. I opened
the program saying, I don't think that that's going to
be doing the Treaty Principal's bills cause any harm because
it frustrated so many people. They'll just feel more sympathetic whether.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
It's not about the Treaty principals bill. That's what you
were told by the organizer KINGI the other day. I
heard the interview on it. Interestingly, he's the son of
the Maldi MP Maramino Kappa Capa Kinikini. Yeah, she's the

(00:36):
Maldi MP and he's one of triplets. So she's been
a busy woman and.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
So hold on just a tick. So he is a
formerly a candidate for the Mary.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Past three three behind her on the list.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
And the son of a current mpper. Yeah, okay, so
this is not really a hikoy about just activating you know, EWI,
it's ahkoy about activating the Mary parties support based Well.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
It's well and the has the co leader row white
tea emblazoned on the side of them along with other
proud to be molded.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
I just think that that's important context, right, because this
is being seen as like a rising up of the
Maori people, but it's actually not. It's a political party
getting people out very much.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
It's a Maori party behind it, and I don't think
White to Tea would disclaim that. But look, it's interesting
because you have to say, what are they specifically protesting
about if it's not the Treaty Principal's bill. Well, I
got tired up in the hikoy today when I was
going on my walk under the Harbor Bridge because they
were all gathered there with the ten. This probably is

(01:47):
a good example of what the question was. I said,
Kura to a one of them that was walking towards
me as a man covered in tattoos head to toe,
and I said, Kura, look, can you specifically tell me
what this protest is all about? And he said do
you speak Maldi? And I said, well, as you've just heard, clearly, asshole,

(02:16):
clearly not. And he said if off and walk on. Yeah,
And I tried to stop a number of others, but
rageous gave me the cold shoulder and walk past. But
I think, you know, look, people who go on these protests,
and there's thousands of them and it'll be massive. There'll
be a big gang motorcycle motorcycle gang representation. I will

(02:37):
guarantee it for the time they get to Wellington. And
of course the gangs appeaved with this government because of
the legislation that's been passed on their patches. I saw
a couple of patches there from the Cobras today. They
were on the on the Hikui.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, I saw black power.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah. Well, they'll all be there, so you know, I
would think the police will be kick keeping pretty close
watch on them when they get to Wellington because there
will be a lot of people to contend with. So yeah,
I failed in my attempt to get specifically what it's
all about, but just looking at the placard, you'd have
to say it's very much about the treaty, the Principal Treaties.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Bill, Okay, which was the talk of Parliament today, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
It was the talk of Parliament today. I've got to
say the Prime Minister gave a pretty good indication the
government's growing tired of the White Tungi Tribunal when he
was questioned by Labour's Chris Hipkins.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Listen, there's the reason why his ministers have consistently sought
to undermine the White Tangy Tribunal without any censure from him,
even calling for it's this establishment because the Tribunal has
brought attention to the profoundly negative impacts the Treaty Principal's
Bill as having on the Crown's relationship with Mardy.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
What I'd say to that member is that many commentators
have said, in a post Treaty settlement world, it's quite
a legitimate question to ask what the role in the
White Tangy trupe and all is going forward. That is
something that whereas a Colish and government will Explorence of.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Course, and the mere introduction of the bill will, according
to the Waite Toanngy trib funeral prejudice Mardi and there
is a risk that the Select Committee process will be
hijacked by racists and purveyors of misinformation for six months.

Speaker 4 (04:20):
I disagree with the characterization of that question.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Matter of opinion was old Shane Jones. Of course, Chris
Luxon won't be in the House for the first debate
and the first and only debate of the bill tomorrow,
because it will be debated in the House tomorrow. He'll
be on his way to APEC the Apex sum in.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Peru, very really quickly. I see section seven AA came
up again today.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Well it did. I don't know whether I've got time
for a little bit of audio because it was fascinating.
The case was being led against the minister by the
Greens Karerangi Carter, who argued Maldi children run the risk
of being further abused if they removed from their fly's
here she is.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
The minimum safeguard for protecting tamaticky and care is ensuring
Maori quote are connected to their faro hapu ewie fucker,
papa fenoa real and tea hunger.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
If Fano is the right place for a young people's
young person to be placed, that's what should happen. But unfortunately,
mister speaker, that's not always appropriate. And we need to
make sure that the safety and well being comes first,
and we must base it on their needs. And every
young person deserves the same level of care and protection

(05:37):
no matter what their ancestry is.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah. Well, and the person who came out, he basically
came out at the end, he defended chure was and
she's an act minister of course, was the new Zealand
First Minster Shane Jones. He's tired of the attacks, he's
tired of the repetitive questioning. She gets it all the
time and it is ridiculous. It's going ahead anyway, Barry.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Thank you, Barry, seeing your political correspondent.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
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