Full Show Podcast: 14 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's Heather duplic elan drive with One New Zealand Let's
get connected news.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Tom said, b.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today,
the NATS are going to finally give us their argument
for why they're going to kill the Treaty Principal's Bell,
which by the way, is being quite contentiously debated. For
the first time. We'll speak to Paul Goldsmith about that,
Andrew Bailey, the Minister, on how he's going to fix
the insurance system to help us out, and also the
Air New Zealand boss on the new safety video.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Together Dupless the lan.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Here's some good news. If you don't like the idea
of people free loading on other taxpayers, the ID has finally,
it would appear, started cracking down properly on people who
don't want to pay back their student loans. Now what's
happened is they've doubled this is the ID. They've doubled
the size of the team that chases Kiwi's living overseas
to pay the money back. They've got debt collectors in

(00:55):
Australia in and when any of these people with a
debt of more than one thousand dollars comes back to
New Zealand. One hundred percent of them, not twenty five
percent anymore. One hundred percent of them can expect to
hear from the ID. And it's a but I particularly
like if the debt is big enough, and these people
are really showing they've got a habit of not wanting
to pay the money back so they don't get to

(01:16):
leave the country again. So might think they're coming here
for a little Hollybob, come to visit the family. Get
stuck now, aren't ye, because you owe us some money.
It looks like this crackdown is actually starting to work
because seven thousand names have been given to the debt
collectors and nausey, and about a thousand of these dudes
are starting to pay the money back already. Now, I
do not have any sympathy for these people whatsoever, and
for the crackdown they're about to experience, because we are

(01:38):
talking about a lot of money here, two point two
billion dollars that will go a hell of a long
way in this country right now, because we're broke, and
these are not kids that we're talking about, right These
aren't predominantly twenty one year old graduates. Graduates just off
onto a little oe, just forgot, whoops, forgot to pay
the money back. Most of the debt is owed by
people in their forties and their fifties. I mean, come on,

(02:00):
you haven't paid your debt back for thirty years. That's deliberate,
isn't it. How many how many times you just whoops
forget to pay your money back? These guys, I reckon
are the ultimate and freeloaders, because't they live in New Zealand,
They get a really nice little education for free, and
while the rest of us are paying our money back,
staying to contribute to the country, paying our taxes, this lot,

(02:23):
with their little free education to skip the joint and
went and lived somewhere else, paid the taxes to somebody else,
didn't pay any of the money back. Seventy percent of
them living overseas are not paying anything towards their loads.
And if anybody to their loans, and if any of
anybody should be paying up, it's actually not the people
in the country where was he working or helping the
country and paying their taxes back. It's the freeloaders living overseas.

(02:45):
Very pleased to see idea is finally going to get
our money back so we can actually use it to
build this place back up again for.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Us together, Dupercy Ellen.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
You are welcome to weigh in, and ID is going
to be with us after five, and we're just gonna
have a nice chat, really nice chat about how hard
they're going to make life other people. Nine two nine
two is the text number. Now, Donald Trump, he is
carrying on with his appointment blitz. At the moment he's confirmed,
he wants to make the Florida Senator Marco Rubio the
new Secretary of State. Our own foreign minister Winston Peters

(03:14):
has immediately tweeted his congratulations. In response, Republican strategist Matt
Terrell was Marco Rubio's chief of staff. Matt, welcome back, Hey,
great to be with you.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Now, Matt, tell me, you obviously know Marco Rubio. So
what's his position on Ukraine? Is he going to look
for a settlement there?

Speaker 4 (03:33):
Well, Look, first of all, I think he's a great
pick and great choice for secretary of State. This is
certainly someone's well qualified for the position. And to your question, look,
ultimately I think it's'd be up to President like Trump
in terms of what the position will be of the administration.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
You know, when you go into these.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Positions in a cabinet, in an administration, it's really joining
the agenda of the president United States, or as you're saying,
in this case, the incoming president Nited States. So look
to that end, I can tell you this much, President
like Trump has been out there discussing the importance of
really negotiation right now, bringing people to the negotiation table,
particularly relates to Ukraine and Russia. Beyond that, I think

(04:14):
we're just have to wait and see, frankly, once President
like Trump takes office to see how that really all
takes shape. But my good tells me President like Trump
is working down in Florida day in and day out
trying to put the pieces together of what that will
look like, particularly relates to Ukraine and Russia, and how
much that maps with what Center Rubio said in the
past on the issue. He has brought up that negotiation

(04:35):
with respect to Ukraine and Russia as being really the path,
as many have argued, particularly the Republican side, if you will,
as the path for ending that conflict. So we'll see
how that all unfolds. But as these cabinet selections, was
for secretary of State or other positions. You really are
joining the agenda of now president like Trump and soon
to be President Trump.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, also quite strongly in favor of Taiwan. So does
that suggest that we're China to make a move now,
quite unlikely, I would say under a Trump presidency. But
were they to make a move on Taiwan, these two
would very strongly want to defend Taiwan.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Well, look, I think at the end of the day,
we want to ask that question of the administration coming
in here, but I think to answer your question or broadly,
not just about Taiwan, but but just in general here,
I do think one of the big themes that was
interesting to note that then candidate Trump during the campaigns
was was highlighting really was not want to start any
new wars and really trying to ensure that that does

(05:32):
not take place. And frankly, he campaigned on peace. So
to that end, I think you're likely going to see
President like Trump once he swore it in, and frankly,
you know, the Secretary of State and other key individuals
that within his foreign policy team really lean in a
negotiation and trying to ensure that there are no new
conflicts around the world. So whether that's related to Taiwan,

(05:54):
whether it's related to you know, the Middle East policy,
whether it's related to Ukraine and Russia, Iran. You know,
these are all going to be on the table here
in terms of discussions on foreign policy front. I think
you're not going to see him, being President elect Trump
really leaned in negotiation, and I think you're going to
see his cabinet picks frankly do the same.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
How do you reckon these two being Marco Rubio and
Donald Trump would likely want to end the war involving Israel.
Would would they be of a mind to force Israel
to just give it up and stop what they're doing,
or would they be more inclined to tell Israel go ahead,
have a crackit around and ended that way.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
I hate to be redundant, but I do think we're
have to wait and see on that one. I see
that because we don't have a whole lot of details
yet on that. You know, during the campaign, Trill, it
was domestic issues that really dominated the race. It was
the economy, inflation, boris kit and so when we did
talk about the foreign policy issues such as you know,
Middle East, Pous or Israel or Ukraine and Russia. He

(06:54):
was president like Trump talking about negotiation, talk about wanting
to end these wars on you know, once he gets
in office, frankly saying he would end them the first
day he's in office. You know, it's it's important to
be mindful of that, of that kind of discussion on
the campaign trail. The real question but you know, the
American people have now is okay, once he's sworn in,

(07:14):
what is President Trump going to do? And I do
think it's going to be him right now in this
transition period trying to put those pieces together. My gut
tells me he is having discussions with key people on
the foreign policy stage. That's just I don't have that information,
but I'm just telling you that's my assumption, or that
he's trying to get ahead of this because you know,
as a president, time is your most valuable asset. You

(07:35):
have so much time, and when it comes into entering
the first one hundred days for example, of his administration,
domestications are gonna be key. But on the foreign policy front, Israel, Ukraine, Russia, Iran,
those are gonna be key, key themes and key issues
are going to pop up here. So I don't think
we have enough yet to say what he will do
to answer your question, except for I think he's gonn

(07:57):
My gut tells me lean into negotiation and try to
end wars, and that's start new wars by bringing leaders
in negotiation table. We saw him do that, for example
with North Korea in his first term, going out and
meeting with the leader of North Korea. So I think
a lot of Americans will point to that and remember
those kind of situations where he's at the negotiation table.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
We'll see what they shape here.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, good stuff. Matt, Listen, thanks very much for giving
us as much insight as you were able to. That's
Matt Terrell, who's the Republican strategist, former chief of staff
to Marco Rubia. So just in a nutshell, what you
should expect is that Marco Rubio forces Ukraine to settle
with Russia, probably backs Israel to continue what it's doing,
and is going to freak China out. China won't try
and take Taiwan while these guys are in charge. Listen,

(08:36):
just back here in New Zealand, there have been absolute
scenes in parliament just now the Speaker has suspended proceedings
and cleared the public gallery because what happened is they
were supposed to vote on the Treaty Principles Bill, which
is at the first reading right now, and then the
opposition parties in the gallery broke into a hakkauca. Now

(09:20):
what's been happening is that since they started debating this
at around three o'clock, that was the Maori Party who
did that. The Maori Party have been quite obviously trying
to get themselves kicked out of Parliament. They've just been barracking, heckling,
carrying on talking and Brownie was at the end of
his wick. You could tell he was actually trying very
hard not to kick them out because nobody wants to

(09:41):
give them the win. But in the end after this
not happy, not happy at all.

Speaker 7 (09:47):
The house is the House is suspended until the ringing
of the bells the gallery is to be cleared.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Barrisop has been watching the lot. He'll give us a
rundown when he's with us at seventeen past four.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Who will take the White House results and analysis of
the US election on hither duplessy alum drive with one
New Zealand. Let's get connected the news talk said b
Sport with tab get your bet on our eighteen bet responsibly.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Darcy water Grave, sports talk hosters with us dars.

Speaker 8 (10:19):
Hello, I'm over eighteen and I do bet responsibly. It's
very important if you're taking a punt over the weekend.
You want to know where I'm going this time around.
You actually had success last week.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
You did not stunning.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
I just did you win.

Speaker 8 (10:32):
Well, not a great deal, but it didn't matter because
I only bet well I can afford to lose, and
I can't afford to lose much, so I don't bet much. Right,
But it's kind of funny. I beat thirteen plus, didn't
quite come in, but also backed by betting the win anyway.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
So another Melbourne Cup.

Speaker 8 (10:46):
No, not the Melbourne Cup, the rugby on the rugby. Sorry,
So here's what I'm done this time around. Okay thirteen
plus again for New Zealand to roll over the top
of France. It's paying four dollars sixty. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I like that, Yeah, I really.

Speaker 8 (10:59):
I was so close to getting it at Sex fifty
last week. They didn't quite get it done. Or we
can beat for all the Southern Hemisphere teams right to
have victory and throw a tenor on that you win
forty four bucks, so you might be that one there as.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Go you Why not are we going to beat them?

Speaker 8 (11:13):
Well? I don't think anyone thought we were going to beat Ireland.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
E sent me if you beat and Piney to give
Piny his crew.

Speaker 8 (11:21):
At people actually did, but the punt like it.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
So if we beat Ireland, we should beat France.

Speaker 8 (11:27):
No, that's not a sporting logic, that's not at all.
I think the French will learn from that. I don't
think they will be as squashed by the pressure as
the Irish worm, which was talking about last week. It's
heavy at home where they don't get beaten taking on
a New Zealand team and they want to have revenge
on them for what happened in the World Cups and

(11:47):
sun and so forth. There was so much hype there.
It just flattened them. They couldn't deal with it.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Did I see Razors looking at replacing Caine?

Speaker 8 (11:55):
Is broken?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
What's wrong them?

Speaker 1 (11:57):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Still the bloody eye.

Speaker 5 (11:58):
I forgot about that.

Speaker 8 (11:59):
I know hed concussion and a great big cut on
his head cause on the hit, Yeah, it was right
across the front of your son. It's impressive. No, I
thought it was on his own unless his eyes up
on the top of his head.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
And when I see blood. Okay, so we're gonna have
the squad. The reason I was asking you is because
the squad's named at half past midnight and you're expecting
what body body in.

Speaker 8 (12:23):
There's a number of decisions. I'd say that body will
probably be on the bench. I've been pretty critical of
Damien McKenzie, but he was fantastic last week. I expect
that to be rewarded and Boden to come on the
bench to cover a number those positions out of the back.
That's the way he rolls. We don't know what if
Ethan the group's going to make his way back into
the side off being left out for a couple of something.

(12:45):
They weren't happy with it. Maybe he stole raises lunch,
I don't know. Maybe he used razors razor in the
shed bathroom and he found the dark hair and the
razor blade when that's not mine. Who did this? No
one knows if we make stuff up and what happens
to the loose Ford trio like I was going to
get selected. Does he go straight in at seven? Do
they put him on the beach is Patrick Tuopoloti, I

(13:06):
get some heads up for his great performances coming off
the beach recity. Does he go on? What happens with
cam Roygard? I expect he starts, but he might not.
Damian Kinsey probably at first five and do they completely
alter the back three? I want to think they do.
Staying away a number of No, I'm not some past
twelve elderly. Are you nuts away up in the morning? Oh,

(13:27):
turn on the radio and listen here that there you go.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
I'm not stupid, Darcy water Grove, Thanks very much. Maybe
we're back at seven for sport Talk four twenty three.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
The name you trust to get the answers you need
Heather duper c Allen Drive with one New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Let's get connected and news talk as they'd be.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
We we have to talk about we have got to
talk about the cold Play show last night at some
stage because I was sitting there thinking this is not
going to be Helen Clark's favorite night at the year,
is it? There were fireworks going off. I mean normally
she just needs to contend with the noise from within
the stadium, but couple that with the fire works and
then the confetti, and I was just like for Climate Warriors,
they used a lot of confetti, and I'm just all

(14:08):
I'm worried about is that Helen finds confetti and her
gutters and stuck in her roses. And between the confetti
and the noise and the fireworks and the happy people
walking outside, not Helen's favorite night. We'll talk about that later.
I'll tell you how the show went.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Here.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
The Parliament's been suspended. Can I have an update please? Okay,
this is the update. Barry Soaper is going to be
with us in twenty minutes and give you the complete update.
But yes, Parliament has been suspended because of the hucker.
Now I didn't realize this but because I was on
air already. But these guys the Marti Party did not
do the hucker from within their seats. They got up,
walked over to David Seymour and huckered at him. So

(14:47):
that was quite a scene. And this was after Willie
Jackson got booted out of the house because he said
this at the very end of his speech.

Speaker 9 (14:54):
I was on a he coy. I'm so proud to
be on that here coy with they are political colleagues,
Marti Party, Party, wonderful Asians, Marti Pacifica were all there.
They gave me a clear message, mister speaker, and I
agreed to give that message here today. Listens to you,
David Seymour. You feel hatred and miss information in this country.
You bring out the worst in New Zealanders. You should

(15:16):
be ashamed of yourself and you are alone now.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
You don't go around calling people liars if you don't
want to get sued, and you don't do it in parliament.
And he was asked repeatedly by Jerry Browne to withdraw
the statement and apologize, and he refused to withdraw the
statement and apologize. So I was told to take a
high get out of the place. So it's just been Look,
I'm getting a lot of texts saying it has been
quite a performance, right the people, the parties on the

(15:42):
right have conducted themselves with decorum and the parties on
the left members of less so. And I think that's
probably a fair assessment. Heather read the student loans who
bloody ray about time. Yes, Heather another texts they need
to pay back because we're already paying seventy five percent
of their educations. Fair Point headlines next.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in
your car on your drive home.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Here the dupless Alan drive with one New Zealand. Let's
get connected and news talk as they'd be in the pieces.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Hey, I have got to keep you across what Andrew
Bailey is proposing for insurance, and this is particularly with
health insurance. Should make my life easier, your life easier,
pretty much everybody's life easier if you have or by
taking our health insurance hits you across and we'll talk
to him. Quarter past five. Oliver Peterson is standing by
and Barry Soap is going to be a US in
ten minutes time. Looks like the house has resumed, so
we're just finding out what Jerr Browley is saying to

(16:47):
them right this very minute. Hither there's no way that
Labour could ever contemplate going into coalition with the Maori
Party after today. Here's the weird thing though, thanks Mike
for that. I thought that ages ago, but I mean
because the fact that the Maori Party are like left
left left left left left left left, whoa whoa over

(17:08):
They're left like I can't even see you anymore left.
The fact that they are left and pretty cookie. It's
not new. That was pretty abund that's been abundantly clear
the whole way through. I mean them using guns as
symbols to activate Hekoi and stuff like that, you know,
accusing parties members of parliament of genocide. That's wacky as
stuff that's going on. They're saying stuff like, oh, some

(17:30):
people have better genetics. It's pretty racist, right. So the
fact that they are so radical that you cannot possibly
coalesce with them if you're the Labor Party has been
abundantly clear for ages. What's happening right now is that
it is becoming increasingly obvious to people right with this
carry on, with the he Koi trying to disrupt people,
what's going on in parliament today. What's weird about it though,

(17:52):
is that Willie j he loves a little bit of
the Market Party, doesn't he. He's cozon right up to them.
He's gone on their he cooys, giving them shout outs
in their houses. It's a really weird thing for him to.
I don't know that. I think he may have lost
perspective and I don't think he knows how kooky this
looks to most of Middle New Zealand. But anyway, we'll
discuss that later on when the huddles with us. It's
twenty two away from five.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's the world wires on News Talk's Eddy Drive.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
So Joe Biden and Donald Trump have had their big
presidential handover meeting. Trump says they exchanged opinions on Ukraine
and the Middle East. White House Press Secretary Koreeine Jean
Pierre's it all went very smoothly.

Speaker 10 (18:26):
Chief of Staff Jeff Signs and incoming Chief of Staff
Suzie Wiles joined the meeting. It was substantive meeting and
exchange of views. They discussed important national security and domestic
policy issues facing the nation.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
And the world.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Albow has arrived in Lima for APEC. Unlike our own
Prime minister, he gets to go to the G twenty
meeting in Brazil afterwards as well because he's a hot shot.
Albow says he's keen to talk free trade.

Speaker 11 (18:50):
Australia will always support free and fair trade. We're trading nations.
One in four of Australia's jobs is trade depindon and
that will be a focus with the meetings that we
will have over coming days.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
And finally, actor John Krasinski has been named the Sixiest
Man Alive by People magazine, who seem to make a
habit of picking pretty ordinary people to be the sexiest
man Alive.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Now.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
He's probably best known for playing Jim in the US
remake of The Office, and John told talk show hosts
Stephen Colbert that when he told his wife, actress Emily Blunt,
that he was the sexiest man alive, she, like the
rest of the world was shocked.

Speaker 12 (19:32):
Was she like it's about damn time, or she's like, yes, darling,
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (19:36):
There was so much laughter on the other end of
the phone it was hard to get worse.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
But sure international correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance, peace
of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Olly Peterson six PR Perth Live Presenters with us Olli
Hallo get a hitter. Why is Peter Dutton not keen
on the text carts?

Speaker 14 (19:55):
Well, you think he realizes basically, the budget can't afford it.
So you'll remember that all Australians got a tax cut
courtesy of the Prime Minister Anthony Albanizi. But he decided
to change the goalposts at the last minute when it
comes to the stage three tax cuts. Now, this was
for people who were earning up to about two hundred
thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
You got about four and a half grand back under albow.

Speaker 14 (20:16):
It was meant to be nine and that's why he
cut it at the last stage and he said, you know,
Australians can't afford it, and it's only going to effect
about four percent of the population, so you can wear
it now. Peter Dutton, the Coalition had basically made a
pledge if they were to win the next federal election
then he'd review it, he would install the Stage three
tax cuts in their entirety. But now he has left

(20:37):
a bit of wriggle room around that head because he's
indicated it depends what the budget looks like. Inflation is
obviously the number one priority, and all of a sudden
he's backing down on that one because I reckon he's
probably seen and sniffed in the breeze that there could
be a bit of an attack campaign that was meant
to be coming from Labor that they were going to
run in the lead up to the election, that they

(20:57):
were going to say he's all about the rich and
helping the rich and trying to get the rich and
the wealthy people more money back in their pockets.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
So I think he's just he's just got a bit of.

Speaker 14 (21:06):
A word that there could be a preemptive strike against
the Liberal Party in their tactic of a scare campaign.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Interesting stuff. Hey did you see that guy who got
really angry at the hand gluers in Melbourne?

Speaker 14 (21:18):
Oh yeah, And you know what, I don't blame him
because it seems to have become sort of the capital
of protesting in the Southern hemisphere in Melbourne, so you know,
his extinction rebellion mob this time deciding that they're going
to shut down roads in Melbourne, Punt Road in Richmond
at about half past seven. As you said, people they're
protesting about climate change, the COP twenty nine summit, and

(21:40):
obviously the Prime Minister want to try and bring that here.
So as you correctly identified, there traving at a standstill.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
People glue their hands to the roads. How stupid are they?
Head up? What's that glue made out of?

Speaker 14 (21:51):
And when you rip somebody's hand off the road, good
luck going to the hospital and going to you know what?

Speaker 3 (21:58):
They don't they pretend to their hands. Their hands are
not always actually glued.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
But they'd like to pretend they I love.

Speaker 14 (22:05):
We had one here in Perth recently where they glued
their hands to a piece of art in the gallery
and that person was a goose as well.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Did they actually.

Speaker 14 (22:15):
Or they did in Perth or they tried to with
those perspects over the top of the thing.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
But this doesn't help their cause, Heather.

Speaker 14 (22:21):
This just makes people angry and outraged and they don't
listen to the message that they're trying to convey. If
you just had a civil debate, I'm sure you might
take some of their points on board. But I don't
know something about Melbourne protesters at the moment.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
I don't know what's in the water down there.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Melbourne deserves it, though, Yeah they did.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Yeah, I don't like victoriause they breed.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
They're all like this. They breed these people so they
can have these people question for you, though, Oli, because
we had the hand glue is they They were infestation
for a while here and in our capital city sort
of late late last year early this year, and it
got to the point where the judges actually had a
guts full and started chucking them in jail. What's happened
to your guys? Have they been are they before the courts?

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (23:00):
Well, and they do, and they chuck him in they
chuck him in jail. You remember the one in Sydney
over the Harbor Bridge. They chucked him in jail. But
then you know, psychiatric assessment said, I no, no, no, you
know this person has a has mental health issues because
of climate change, so you can't keep them behind bus.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Oh okay, well that's a good one to have. I
always I like to collect these little things. Should I
ever find myself in court, I'm just going to rip
out all of these dumb excuses as well. Hey, thank
you for that. I really appreciated. Olie has always took
to you. Soon mate, that's Oliver Peterson. Six PR Perth
Live presenter Jerry Brownlee has just had a chat to
everybody about the house resuming.

Speaker 7 (23:37):
If anyone interrupts proceedings from the galleries, they will be
removed and not permitted to return.

Speaker 6 (23:44):
One.

Speaker 15 (23:44):
It commits to protecting the rights of everyone.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
And hold on, here we go. Here's the updated version.

Speaker 7 (23:50):
The matter of misconduct appallingly disrespectful conduct inside the house
premeditated action to disrupt the house by one of its
members is gross. The disorder disorderly and I nam Hannah
Ralfiti might be cluck. Therefore, the question is that Hannah

(24:13):
writes he might be cluck be suspended from the service
of the House.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Now they've taken the vote and the Treaty Principle's bill
has passed the first reading, so we'll we'll get the
update from Barrisoba winners with us really quickly. Of the
insurance we're going to talk to Andrew Bailey, as I
told you before earlier, We're going to talk to him
in about half an hour's time. What is going on
with insurance at the moment. And you'll know this if
you've got insured, any kind of insurance, is that you
are responsible for telling your insurance company absolutely everything that

(24:39):
they need to know, as if you are some sort
of an expert and know what they need to know.
And if you don't share absolutely everything they need to know,
you could find yourself in trouble later down the line
when you make a claim. Andrew Bailey is proposing to
change the law so the onus is no longer on you,
but actually on the insurance company to ask you the
right questions to extract the information that they need to know.

(24:59):
So if they don't have that in information, their problem,
not yours. And I'm loving the sound of this Quarter.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
To politics with centrics. Credit check your customers and get
payments certainty.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Okay, Barry, so seeing your political correspondence with us. Hey Barry,
good afternoon. Right, run us through what just happened.

Speaker 16 (25:14):
Well, I've never seen anything like it in more than
forty years of covering Parliament. The Speaker lost control absolutely,
and it's by no fault of his own. It's by
the fault of the MPs in the debating chamber and
in particular Rawu Y why to Tea. He's named Hannah

(25:35):
Rafiti Mapi Clark. She's that very young MP for the
Maldi party. She led off what was going into the
body of the Parliament and towards David Seymour. Rawui why
to Tea was right there with her, and so was
Debbie Riwa Packer.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
This is the hacker.

Speaker 16 (25:57):
They went right up to David seymour desk, very intimidating.
I was watching it, and you know, it was much
worse than what Juliannejenter did with Matt Doosey. And she
was brought before the Privileges Committee when the House resumed
after a considerable time, David Seymour wanted essentially white to

(26:20):
tea to be sent to the Privileges Committee as well,
and I'm sure more action will be taken because Parliament
can't be like that. It became just a mess and
out of order. The Opposition set out to embarrass the
Prime Minister in question time before all this unfolded, before
the big debate. Nikola Willis, she was standing in for

(26:42):
Chris Luckson today. She was none too kind about the
bills sponsored David Seymour.

Speaker 8 (26:47):
Here she is.

Speaker 17 (26:48):
I do not think it makes sense or will be
enduring for Parliament to simply set down its interpretation of
the treaty and then seek a majority of the public
to confirm it and referend him. That is a crude
way to handle a very delicate subject.

Speaker 18 (27:02):
What does it say about his leadership when his soon
to be deputy Prime minister accused him of being quote
clearly nervous end quote about the bill and the National
Party of being quote afraid of taking on hard issues
end quote, with him doing nothing to dissuade the public

(27:23):
of that notion.

Speaker 17 (27:25):
David Seymour is responsible for his own statements, and in
this case they are wholly.

Speaker 16 (27:30):
Incorrect, So there's no love lost between David Seymour and
the National Party. But then it was down to the
fiery debate. David Seymour as the bill's sponsor. He kicked
it off and was calm and considered, I've got to say,
compared with what followed, He's Seymour, followed by Labor fire
brand Willie Jackson.

Speaker 15 (27:48):
The commencement claused is the principles of the spill only
come into force if a majority vote for it to
do so and referendum. The big change share is the
idea that each person has a say on the rules
they live under. Even people who are convinced this bill
will not become law are determined to stop it being discussed,
and that's why you hear so much outspoken criticism of it.

(28:10):
They know that whether or not this bill becomes law
in this term of Parliament, it's only a matter of
time before its logic prevails. That's why they say kill
the bill, because they can't kill the idea behind the bill.

Speaker 9 (28:25):
The government's own lawyers, mister Speaker who said that this
poll will undermine maldi rights.

Speaker 13 (28:31):
But still David Seymour.

Speaker 9 (28:34):
Persists with this disgusting piece of legislation. I said some
time ago that he was the most dangerous politician in
New Zealand and that has come to pass. Listens to you,
David Seymour, You f your hatred and misinformation in this country.
You bring out the worst in New Zealanders. You should

(28:54):
be ashamed of yourself and you are alive.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
See.

Speaker 16 (28:58):
And he was pulled up on that, and he's kicked
out of the House for it. Rivalry white tea. He
clearly stirred up those in the public galleries and opposition
parties with this contribution.

Speaker 13 (29:08):
To tease your white thing is superior to any person
and any law if it created in this house at
are seemed to be pulling the strings and running the
country like the KKK with a swipe card to the beehive.
And Luxai doesn't even care there's a.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
Post in his chair.

Speaker 13 (29:28):
Uncle one gave consent to parking to governor over themselves.
They've assumed governance over us. When will we begin to
assume governance our house?

Speaker 16 (29:38):
See?

Speaker 8 (29:38):
And to me, you know, that's the sort of rhetoric is.

Speaker 16 (29:42):
Worrying to say the least. Now the Maori Party leadership
joined by their members and I've got to say Labors
to came out of his seat. They launched to do
a deafening harker and that, and they approached David.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
S Labors Labors to.

Speaker 16 (29:59):
Yep, he sorry, carry on, sorry, wrong name, and the
speaker he lost all control and suspended the house. Here's
the racket that followed from the public galleries.

Speaker 19 (30:12):
The gallery is to be cleared.

Speaker 16 (30:34):
I've never seen hatred like that in Parliament before. With
the Speaker throwing up his hands as you heard at
the beginning there and walking out. It's an absolute disgrace.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Barry, thank you appreciate your time on that one. That's
Barry Soper, senior political correspondent, seven away from five.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast, you.

Speaker 20 (30:54):
Can hold the presses. Because the government has released a
new framework for public private partnerships and the Labor Party
is on board with it's infrastructure Minister Christmasship is with us.
The relevance of having Labor on board how significant.

Speaker 21 (31:06):
We're bit surprised, but I am pleased by it.

Speaker 6 (31:09):
I'm trying to build greater.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
By partisnership around infrastructure because that's what the country desperately needs.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Why are we no good at them?

Speaker 21 (31:15):
Well, we're not good at them because I would argue
that we haven't developed sufficient expertise inside the Crown to
make sure that the government is a is a good
client on our side of it. And that's one of
the things we're changing with the.

Speaker 6 (31:26):
Development of this new National Infrastructure Agency.

Speaker 20 (31:29):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
the Raindrobe of the Laugh You Stalk zb hither.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
There are some great examples this afternoon in Parliament of
why I'll be looking at leaving this country. This is
why I keep saying to you the Labour Party needs
to disassociate itself from what the Marti Party is up
to because people Middle New Zealand does not like this,
does not like this kind of carry on. It's just
too it's just it feels too rude, to disruptive, too upsetting,
to visitive. I don't know anyway this for them to decide,

(31:56):
we're going to talk to Paul Goldsmith, National Party Justice
Minister who spoke as Luxon wasn't there today. The Prome
Minister wasn't there. He spoke on and basically Prome Minister's stead.
He'll be with us after the News Health New Zealand.
We need to Yeah, we need to talk about our
New Zealand. I'm gonna get to that just really quickly.
The New Zealand safety video. Now, if you haven't seen this,
safety videos out this time featuring Steven Adams and Tom

(32:20):
Sainsbury and Valerie Adams, so you you got a cast
of some pretty big names in there. I look, I
watched it like whatever, you know, whatever, It's fine. I
don't really you know, but I feel like we can
put to bed the argument about whether in New Zealand

(32:41):
should should actually like whether it sucks or not. Right,
surely we can just like that argument's finished, and whether
in New Zealand needs to do these things because clearly
this is the New Zealand's thing. Now they're gonna always
do gimmicky, cringey safety videos and yay for them. Let
them do it right. So we don't have to love it.
We just have to watch it, that's all. So I
feel like we're not going to talk about that with

(33:02):
Greg the CEO when he's with us, but he'll leave
with us after half past five. News Talks EDB.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,
get the answers by the facts and give the analysis.
Heather Dooless the alum drive with one New Zealand. Let's
get connected a news talks.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
B Good afternoon.

Speaker 6 (33:28):
Now.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
The Treaty Principals Bill has finally this afternoon passed its
first reading, but scenes earlier Parliament was suspended after opposition parties,
particularly the Maori Party and people in the public gallery,
interrupted the vote with a huge hucker. Willie Jackson from

(33:57):
Labor got himself thrown out after calling David c a
liar in refusing to withdrawd apologize. Prime Minister Chris Luxon
wasn't there to speak, but National's Paul Goldsmith, who's obviously
the Justice Minister, had that job for him. Paul, Hello, Hello,
how are you very well? Thank you? So it seems
to me National's argument, which we've finally got, is basically
twofold Number one, this bill is too simplistic for dealing

(34:19):
with a complex issue. Number two, it's distracting you guys
from getting New Zealand back on track. Is that about right?

Speaker 22 (34:26):
No, Partly I would expand on that and to say yes,
it's a crude way to handle a very sensitive topic.
This thirty years of legislation that would be overturned in
the stroke of a pen. But secondly, our plan, we
believe is better because there are issues that need to
be dealt with in terms of where the treaty sits
today and how we navigate our way between the desire

(34:49):
to honor the treaty, but also you know, not move
away from the sick expectations of people living in a
modern democratic society.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
And so our view is that we've got to do that.

Speaker 22 (34:58):
Issue by issue, which is what we're doing on the
Marine Coastal Area when we're talking about Marie Health Authority,
all those things issue by issue, rather than tristry to
do it with one sweep of the pen on one bill,
which is too simplistic.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Do you broadly agree or at all agree with David
Seymore when he says the courts have gone way too
activist on this in deciding that the principles of partnership exist.

Speaker 22 (35:21):
For example, look, there's a Minister of Justice. It's a
good way to get sectors to criticize the judiciary directly.
I think that the onus on Parliament is to be
clear about what we mean in legislation. And so you know,
one of the things that I'm going to be focusing
on next year in terms of the Treaty is going
through all the twenty eight or so major references in

(35:42):
legislation to the Treaty and its principles, and going through
and being very clear about what we do and what
we don't mean. And that I think is the role
of Parliament to be clearer about what we mean.

Speaker 12 (35:52):
Let me.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
Level, the most egregious principle, at least from the Act
Party's point of view, is the principle that this is
a partip. Do you agree that the Treaty is a partnership?

Speaker 22 (36:03):
Well, look that has been a legal sort of interpretation
put down in every over the past few years. But
what accectly that means in any given circumstances is a
debatable point. But the vaguer Parliament is and its legislation,
the more room for interpretation there is. And so that

(36:24):
precisely is what we want to be clear. You know,
when it comes to the Conservation Act and the Education
Act and they all got these, this is.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
To the very heart of what the Act Party is saying. Right,
the courts are coming up with principles like this, and
then you and I go, okay, well, the principle exists,
but your interpretation of the principle is different to my
interpretation of the principle of partnership, which is not in
the treaty. This is a made up principle. And so
what the act party wants to do is be very
clear about what the principles are and what they mean.

(36:53):
I mean, there's some logic to that, isn't there.

Speaker 22 (36:55):
Well, but the point is that this has been This
has not sort of developed a week or the week before.
It's been over thirty five years. And just to sort
of come along with one act wampa, you're gone, and
then put it to a referendum the majority will probably
you know, win, And that's no way to sort of
deal with what is a very sensitive and difficult topic.

(37:16):
And so our viewers, yes, address these issues. For the
best way to do it is issue by issue. So
you know, we're dealing with the marine and coastal space,
we're dealing with that, and we sort that out. Now,
if you're talking about the Rockland local government, you've got
to sort that out.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
But just do it, Holess.

Speaker 22 (37:32):
A bottlist just like that is not a recipe to
actually have sustainable sort of good relations and that's what
we want to achieve.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Listen, Paul. On another subject, does the media bill dead?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Now?

Speaker 22 (37:45):
I wouldn't say that, but we're working our way through that.
I've never said it was an easy or simple matter,
and so we haven't quite got to the situation where
we can bring it back to the house yet, but
as soon as I am able to let you know
about it.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
I will, Yes, Google got you a barrel.

Speaker 22 (38:02):
No, but we're dealing with, you know, a rapidly changing
media landscape and evolving international situation, and so I'm just
looking my way through what's the best outcome that we
can get for New Zealand and so well, you know,
we haven't got something to say.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
We will good stuff. Hey, Paul, thank you very much
as always, Paul Goldsmith, Justice Minister Heaver do for c Ellen.
It seems that Inland Revenue is finally cracking down on
kiwis who now live overseas but aren't paying their student
loans back. IRD has doubled the size of its crackdown
team and it's giving names to deck collectors in Australia
to get the dollars back. Andrew Scott is the project
lead at IID for this and he's with us. Hey Andrew, Hey, right, Well,

(38:44):
now that you started handing over names to deck collectors
and cracking down what proportion of these people are actually
paying the money back.

Speaker 23 (38:52):
So we provided names to our Australian deck collectors, seven
thousand of them earlier this year. So far a thousand
of those have paid their debt. It's either in full
or in part. So that's pretty good going so far.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Yeah, and why I think one of the most interesting
things that you're going to do is if the debt
is big enough and the person has been tardy enough,
if they come back to New Zealand for whatever reason,
and you guys get a hold of them, you will
arrest them and they will not be able to leave
the country. Is that right?

Speaker 23 (39:19):
I guess there's two things there. There's about one hundred
and fifty people who yet we'd look if when they
come back to New Zealand, we'd be putting out a
warrant for the arrest, which means if they then tried
to leave the country, they'd be stopped. That's the extreme side.
On the other side, anybody who comes back to New
Zealand where they owe a thousand dollars or more outstanding
will be trying to get in contact with them.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
So how big does the debt have to be for
you guys to arrest someone.

Speaker 23 (39:45):
It's not really about the size of the debt, although
we're talking between tens of thousands up to over one
hundred thousand. It's really about whether they're engaging with us
or not. So if they're just ignoring all of our
communications or they're leaving us no way to get in
touch with them, then that's our last resort.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
How do you stop them for leaving the country again?
Do you cancel their ability to leave?

Speaker 23 (40:04):
Yeah? Essentially they turn up at the airport and when
they go to check in the the arresting officer is called.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
And then in order to be able to leave again,
would they have to assure you that they are going
to start paying the money back.

Speaker 23 (40:17):
Yeah, we'd have a negotiation about how they're going to
handle their debt, and that might mean an immediate part
of payment or or some agreement that gives us confidence
for that will be stuff.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Good on you? How much of this money two point
two these guys living overseas over two point two billion dollars.
How much of it do you reckon you can actually
realistically get back.

Speaker 23 (40:36):
One of the things that people don't really know is
it's not twenty year old students who over this money
really for forty thousand to the people, there's one hundred
and ten thousand boroughs overseas for forty thousand of them,
more than they've had their loan for more than twenty years.
Ia Duly fifties, late forties. They've been ignoring it for
a long time. But we've got no ability to write
any of that off. So we're ramping up our activities

(40:58):
to find them, compel them, and be shops when they return.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Good stuff. Andrew, best of luck, love it, Andrew Scott
Iidy project lead Heather Goldsmith. Issue by issue will take
years and years, and in the meantime, the Supreme Court
will continue to apply their interpretation of the Treaty principles
and New Zealand will get left behind the rest of
the developed world. That's from Connell. I tend to agree
with that sentiment entirely. I'm not finished dealing with this issue,

(41:23):
so we're going to deal with it a little bit
more and just to take quarter past Heather, did Paul
Goldsmith just admit that this Treaty Principal's Bill would be
successful if it was put to a referendum. Yes, well,
spotted eighteen past five. Now the government's passed the law
to give us a better deal in insurance deals. Until now,
what's happened is if you've taken out an insurance policy,
it was your responsibility to tell your insurance company any

(41:43):
relevant information they needed to know. Now, because of this law,
they have to ask you specific questions about what they
need to know, and then you just have to answer
that question honestly. Andrew Bailey is the Minister of Commerce
and Consumer Affairs. Andrew, Hello, Hello, how are you going? Andrew?

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Well?

Speaker 8 (41:58):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Were you in the house for the drama today for
most of it? Yeah? Was that a bit full on?

Speaker 12 (42:04):
I haven't seen anything like it?

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Yeah, what do you think needs to be done about that?

Speaker 12 (42:10):
Well, obviously it's up to the Speaker and he chose
to suspend the house, so it's his call what he
should do and to bring the house back into order.
But I was very rowdy.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
It was rowdy. Listen. This law is this basically to
stop what sometimes happens, which is that insurance companies refuse
to pay out to you because you forgot some tiny
little detail that they deem to be relevant.

Speaker 12 (42:35):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
So there's three parts that.

Speaker 12 (42:37):
The first thing is no more getting when you have
to fill out a policy application, getting it in a
whole Legalese language. So it's a requirement insurance companies to
present the application form in an easy, doesn't send way.
The second thing is but that you've just said is
that it takes the guesswork out of it. You have

(42:57):
to honestly respond to stuff. But it's up to the
insurance company to ask you the right question, not for
you to anticipate. Do I put in that I had
tonsils out at five when I was five years old?
When you make an application which may or may not
be relevant. And the third thing is we've been much
clear about the remedies in the event that you inovertently

(43:18):
miss out a piece of information. So what is the
liability for the insurance company? And we've been very clear about.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
That does this apply retrospectively? This law? So if I've
got existing oh so I need to go cancel all
my insurance policies and start them again.

Speaker 12 (43:33):
Yep, you've entered into an agreement. So if you want
to be covered by this situation, you could go down
that course of action. But obviously this will come into
forces as you roll over into new policies.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
As in like if I've got an existing policy with
let's say AA for my car, and I will renew
it at the end of the year, then it tooks in.

Speaker 12 (43:54):
Well, there's different there's quite a long lead to time
because parts are a bit more complicated than the others.

Speaker 6 (43:59):
But I would.

Speaker 12 (44:00):
Imagine for most insurance companies, for simple things like care insurance,
they will be well ready for that by the.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
End of the year.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
But right, so let's say whenever this bill, this piece
of law is fully enacted, I can go to my
insurance policies will renew at some stage and I don't
have to worry about it. I'm covered from the minute
that I renew my policies.

Speaker 12 (44:21):
Yeah, the new arrangements, there is a stage time for
leading to them. Obviously, insurance companies got to go around
and rewrite their policies, put them in plain English as
an example. But once they're all done, then certainly when
you enter into those arrangements there's new arrangements, you'll be
covered brilliant stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Andrew, thanks very much, Andrew Bailey, Minister of Comments and
Consumer Affairs. Right, Heather, I'm going to vote for the Coalition,
not for the soft. I don't know that I can
say this word out on air soft for another word
for Willie National Party. There's a lot of that going on.
We're going to talk about this next five to twenty one.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
The du cutting through the noise to get the facts.

Speaker 1 (45:03):
It's Heather duper see allan drive with one New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Let's get connected and news talk as they'd be soft roosters.

Speaker 3 (45:10):
Heather, thank you appreciate it. Speaking of soft roosters. Five
twenty four, let's deal with this. Good on the NATS
for finally laying out their argument for why they're killing
David Seamaw's Treaty Principle's bill, because up to now they
haven't actually articulated. But I've got to be honest with you,
judging by the text, judging by how I am receiving
this argument, I don't think it's going to convince any
of their voters who might actually like the idea of

(45:33):
this bill. Basically their argument is twofold right, So number one,
David Seymour's bill is too simplistic a solution for a
complex issue. And number two, it's a distraction from their
attempts to get New Zealand back on track. Now here's
the problem with both of those arguments. They sound like excuses.
They just don't want to do the thing that's giving
them the yick. I don't want to do it. So
actually I suspect, given the popular popularity of this bill

(45:55):
and the admission that Paul Goldsmith has made, that actually
if it went to referendum it would pass. I think.
I think And by the way, when I speak about
the popularity, I'm talking about the fact that the basic
idea was put to a poll and it was very popular.
I think that there will be quite a few National
Party supporters who think that what's happening in race relations
in this country, where one kind of person is entitled
to freebies like free GP visits but others aren't, is

(46:19):
an example of New Zealand being way off track and
exactly the kind of getting us back on track that
we would like to see. And it doesn't really fly
to admit that, yeah, there is a problem, but then
to go well, I'm not I just don't like the solution, Like,
if you admit that there's a problem, find me a
simple solution to it. Picking your way through myriad legislation

(46:41):
to fix bits and bobs here and there seems like
doing it the hard way when you have a perfectly
simple solution presented right to you right now the act
Party is proposing it. Voters ps news flash to the
National Party rarely love a simple solution, especially if they
are a conservative voter. Gang patches are intimidating, and the
gang patches kids aren't going to school. Punish the parents.

(47:04):
Healthcare is falling apart. Build more hospitals, hire more doctors,
hire more nurses. A simple solution is a thing that
a conservative voter loves the most. Race relations are getting
weird because the treaty principles at the moment are willy
and undefined. So the simple solution is define them, which
is what David Seymour is planning to do in this bill.
Saying yeah, there is a problem, but they're not fixing

(47:26):
it with the most obvious and simple fix is going
to sound to a lot of voters amongst the National
Party's own voting base like the Nats are just making
a bunch of excuses. So while I'm pleased we've got
their argument, good luck to them trying to convince anyone
with this one.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Ever, do see out to let me know what you think.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
Nine two nine two. Now, if you have got tickets
to Coldplay for Tomorrow night and Saturday night, mate, you
are not going to regret what you're about to go to.
That was I went last night the best show, hands down,
that I have ever been to. And I'm saying this
is somebody who doesn't love Coldplay. I mean, I like Coldplay.
I really madly respect Coldplay because they are very, very successful.

(48:07):
But I was sort of like, what take it, will
leave it whatever, you know, it's Coldplay, I'll go along
because they are a successful band. Holy Hannah, that was
a show. And this is not just me saying it.
I asked a whole bunch of people I knew who
were there, and they all said to me, best show
they've ever seen. Two people said to me Adele's music
was better. But that is literally the only contention.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
You are good.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
Anyway. This guy kret got annoying as hell, it really is,
But what a showman. He was dancing and singing and
smiling the whole time. You had like wristband lights all
over the stadium, you had confetti, you had fireworks, and
when you walked out of there you felt like you'd
had a good time and you felt happy for it.

(48:52):
So if you haven't got a ticket, get a ticket,
you're gonna love it. Headlines next.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Hard Questions.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
That's a strong opinion had due for see Ellen drive
with one New Zealand Let's get connected and used talk
as they'd be.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Together.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
I saw Coldplay last time, they were in Auckland, and
the thing I remember most is the only genius good
word on the agnus Chris Martin saying we're all in
this together. Uh huh together in your private jet? Ay too?

Speaker 5 (49:29):
Right?

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Remember this is like and I'm saying, this is somebody
who loved the show last night, but remember this is Colplay,
who were like, we're not going to tour anymore because
we don't want to hurt the climate. And then they
were like, actually we do like money, so oh hold on,
hold on, what what was that? That's Richard Hills.

Speaker 24 (49:48):
The light up bracelets were vegan though, so well that
FoST souls everything?

Speaker 3 (49:52):
Oh does it? Because I just feel like it's going
to kill a lot of turtles when all of those
bracelets get thrown in the water. Thank you Richard. Any Way,
Richard's gonna us very shortly. Yeah, so just remember you
are dealing with some very irritating people. But the music
was great and the show was great. Hither you're absolutely
spot on renational. They're going to pay for this. Hither
you'ree hundred percent right. The Nats need to grow a
backbone spot on here. That are you listening? Las luxon

(50:14):
being a soft rooster here? The thanks a great synopsis.
The NAT's absolutely rooted. So they might want to rethink
the same huddle standing by going to be with us
shortly twenty three away from six.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Heather Dup see Allen so in.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
New Zealand's got themselves a new safety video, this time
starring the KIWI NBA star Steven Adams in the lead role.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
That's a hard time buzzer.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Adams still in front, Steve, Hey you feeling?

Speaker 7 (50:38):
Yeah? Well, I'm looking forward to the life jack a bit.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
All.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
That does sound really important.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Actually, Greg four And is the New Zealand's chief executive. Hey, Greg,
hi there, how did you get Steven Adams?

Speaker 25 (50:49):
Well, actually he reached out to us. He's been pretty
keen to see whether we could do something. He likes
thee in New Zealand. He flies he in New Zealand,
and he reached out to us. And as we've thought
about new safety video and basketball came to mind. It's
a fast growing sport. Yes, Steve Adams came to mind,

(51:10):
and here we go. We've got a really sort of
essential iconic key. We doing something which we think is
pretty good for the country.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
So, I mean, did he know that there was a
safety video that needed doing or did he just reach
out on the hope that one day, when you do
your next one, he'd be available being josen.

Speaker 25 (51:28):
Yeah, he was interested in partnering with us, you know,
in terms of the work he does with kids playing
basketball around the country, and so it was wider than
just a safety video. But as we started to discuss
it through with him, you know, the safety video became
a very good vehicle and so that's the one we
went to and I think it's worked to treat I.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Mean, in the past, you've had a pretty strong relationship
with the rugby guys. Have you heard from them about
how are you cutting their lunch with basketball?

Speaker 25 (51:56):
Now, no, we haven't, but I'm sure at some point
we'll work out who else we do something with.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
But now that's a good question.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Can we ax? Is a cost to make one of
these flash ones instead of just your stock standard you know,
buckle yourself up one.

Speaker 25 (52:14):
Well, we don't do stock standard Buckley ones, do we.
We haven't really done the years. I think you go
back to the I think it was body painting. I
wasn't in the country, but I hear about it regularly.
And of course we've also done Rico the Raccoon, which
seems to have an interesting history associated with it. Lord
of the Rings rap music. So you know, it's part

(52:36):
of the brand to get involved and be quite curious
and stretch ourselves. So we don't do the stock standard ones,
and I don't think we should.

Speaker 5 (52:45):
No.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
No, Actually, do you know what I actually agree with you.
I'm kind of tired of this debate about whether a
New Zealand needs to do the safety videos that were
the weird ones. You do them, that's your thing. But
the reason I'm asking is because there's been a little
bit of chat today about whether actually it's a wise
thing to do, given how much punters are being pinged
for the old flights at the moment.

Speaker 25 (53:04):
Yeah, I can imagine that that comes through, And you know,
it's one of the reasons that we keep pushing on
things like the airport, to be honest, to keep our
costs down. They do cost some money. It's obviously commercially
sensitive how much we spend, but it's an important part
of the brand. It's a bit like the Menga pari
on the tail and the uniform, which you know we're

(53:26):
doing a new one and you'll see that next year.
I think you've got to invest money to make a
bit of money, and I think this is a smart investment.
But you know, one of the things I'm proud of
heither is we've kept it short and you know, I
certainly watch plenty of customers when I'm sitting on planes,
and I know that they will appreciate the fact that

(53:46):
we get through this one and sort of record time.

Speaker 5 (53:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
Well, if Bob Jones ever comes back, he'll appreciate that.
Cold play. How are you going with these flights, because
it sounds like it's a bit of madness out there.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (53:57):
Look, there's about another thirty thousand and people traveling this
week domestically, which is up about fifteen percent, and so
far so good. Pretty big day yesterday. The biggest day
is actually tomorrow. So you know, we've put on some
extra flight and we're very conscious of making sure that

(54:18):
they all operate, make sure we don't cancel anything through
the dreaded engineering or weather or bird strikes or whatever
else we have to deal with. So so far, so good,
and it's working well.

Speaker 8 (54:32):
Greg.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Thank you as always, really appreciate your time. That's greeg
for CEO of in New Zealand. Hither you're a confirmation
biased type of person, aren't you only read out texts
that align to your thinking. I'm sick of it. Not
everyone is on your site. I want to hear a
robust and diverse conversation, not just you going on and
on about your own views. Well, happy for you. The
huddle is here, nineteen away from.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
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Speaker 3 (54:57):
And on the huddle with two people who one hundred
percent disagree with me on this. We have Richard Hill's
All Can Counselor and Nick Leggett Infrastructure.

Speaker 26 (55:05):
In New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Hello, you too, cure to Hello, Okay, Richard, did you
see the carry on in the house today?

Speaker 24 (55:09):
Yes, I watched it on the way here, thoughts Well,
it's just a continuation of the fastest this whole waste
of six months is. I mean, the government can't expect
the opposition to just lay down and pretend like this
is not weird when the government's like, we don't support
this at all, but we're going to make you all
sit here and waste time and money debating something that's
never gonna.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
I'm getting a lot of texts from people who are
really upset with how that played out in the House
today with the hakka and the disruption and stuff. Did
that upset you or were you like not actually fair enough?

Speaker 24 (55:42):
I guess the whole rules of debate are out the
window when you're forcing everyone to sit there and debate
something that the government has said they don't support, but
they're making us go through it and getting people upset
and offside, but like they're not going to support it,
but we have to sit there.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
And because you're a labor guy, right, so I know
this is going to play really well for the Maori
Party voter base, and some in the Green Party voter base.
How's it going to play for the Labor Party voter base.

Speaker 24 (56:06):
I think probably the voter base of the country looks
at Parliament today and maybe all days at the moment
and thinks, what a waste of time and money? What
are they doing? This is just another continuation of the mess.
But I don't necessarily blame people for acting up when
it is a ridiculous situation they're all being put in
right now.

Speaker 3 (56:26):
Nick, tell me what you make of the NAT's argument
for why they're not supporting this bill.

Speaker 27 (56:32):
Well, you could argue it's MMP in action, But I
think the issue is I'm less concerned about the waste
of time or money. It's more the division that this
creates needlessly. Why have a debate that allows extremes, you know,

(56:52):
reacting to one another and you know, and playing to
their respective bases when I suspect most he wes are
not of either on either side, but actually want a functioning,
evolving treaty relationship that's based on partnership and both You
know that bipartisan agreement between you know, across successive governments

(57:18):
has been built up over decades and this takes us backwards.
This debate takes us backwards. And you know, you don't
sort out nationhood by a referendum, you continue to have
good dialogue. You disagree, absolutely, but it also raises for me,
you know, I think that we haven't defined that the treaty.

(57:41):
We haven't defined well enough that the treaty has actually
got a place for everybody. It's why we're all here,
And so much of the treaty discussion plays out as
though it's just for Marty, when an actual factor, every
New Zealander has a place under the treaty, and I
think a lot of non Marty feel alien from that,
and so we've got to do a better job at

(58:02):
bringing them together. This bill doesn't do that, and frankly,
the political leadership that we've seen on display from all
sides doesn't really do that.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
YU.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
So the problem, the problem that the NATS have got
is that what you see today drives up the Acts
Party vote, and it drives up the Marti party vote,
and it actually, if you assume that there's just a
transactional vote movement there, actually drives down the National Party vote,
doesn't it.

Speaker 8 (58:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 27 (58:26):
Absolutely well, yeah, yeah, And that's I mean I'm I
believe in a strong center of politics, and that's not
that's not a dollar each way. That means that you
can pull you know, you can bring from both sides
and pull something together and get some cooperation. But we
haven't seen that, unfortunately, and not just from national but

(58:51):
I think that I don't think Labor, for instance, explained
three waters and what they meant by co governance. Well enough.
Now I've worked well in co government situations. Proudly it
can and it does work. But you've got to take
people with you. You've got to take both treaty partners
with you. And so what we haven't seen we haven't

(59:12):
had courageous discussions from the since center, the Live A Party.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
I think that I think that's the very fair point
there is that we've been We've had theyck about it,
we've not talked about it, and now that we're talking
about it, we're shouting all right. We'll take a break,
come back on other subjects shortly with the huddle. Fourteen
away from six.

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Speaker 3 (59:33):
Right, You're back with a huddle, Richard Hill's and Nick
Leggett Richard, I'm loving the id crackdown on the kiwis
overseas not paying their bills. What about you?

Speaker 24 (59:40):
Yeah, I mean I've got a bit of sympathy for,
you know, young people that go over for a kentickie
and a holiday and a year or two you know,
gap year and get charged interest. You know, maybe there
needs to be a bit more chilled vibes there. But
I was quite surprised when it's people in their forties
and fifties over there with big bills, you know, like,
obviously I would love.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
If we were Have you paid yours down?

Speaker 14 (01:00:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:00:03):
I did a celebratory don't you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Think, like as people in our faulties now we've paid
the thing down, and then you look at those guys
over there not paying it down all grimes McGee's quite a.

Speaker 24 (01:00:12):
Big number two like, so I will obviously love it
if we were like the generations above us who've got
free education, that would be nice, but we didn't, and
I think interest free is a pretty good deal. So
it is surprising to see, but I guess the idea
it's quite a lot of money they're spending on getting
the money too. So I think they need to make
sure they're not overspending for the well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Yeah, yeah, return on investment.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:00:36):
I mean, look, the country is in a really tight
fiscal corner at the moment. I guess that's also what
concerns me about the last thing we discussed. We actually
want to government focused on building the economy, improving health
and education. And you know they've got they've got to
pull back some money from wherever they can get it.
So I think that's important. But I think that's right

(01:01:00):
as well. You know, what is there a return on
the money being spent?

Speaker 5 (01:01:04):
You know?

Speaker 27 (01:01:04):
Is it worth chasing people in this wale? Do we
wait and pin them until they come back when they
come back into the country.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
Hey, Nick, what about them coming back into the country
one hundred and fifty of them, and then we're going
to arrest them and not let them leave again. That's awesome.

Speaker 27 (01:01:16):
I don't think that's what I was suggesting here.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Well, I just love that. I mean I love that
the iodia. You're taking this serious.

Speaker 24 (01:01:22):
You would march them to the ATM, wouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
I would, And I'd make them empty out all their
money and then give it to us and then be like, oh,
sorry if you can't buy bread now because you did that,
but at least we've got our dollars back. Did you
mind the New Zealand video, Nick.

Speaker 27 (01:01:36):
Well, I fly a lot, so I do have. I
get quite intimate with these videos and they are painful
after a while, so I welcome the new one. I
really like Steven Adams and I really like Tom Sainsbury,
so that's good. But if you fly as often as
I do, where's thin? And I was really interested in

(01:01:58):
Greg saying that this is a short one because I've
only seen it on the YouTube, but it was like
four minutes, get it over and done with?

Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Took long?

Speaker 23 (01:02:08):
Please?

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:02:08):
Yeah, seven seconds?

Speaker 27 (01:02:10):
Short attention spans these Yeah, totally.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
What did you think, Richard?

Speaker 24 (01:02:14):
Oh yeah, I mean I think as I get older,
which is a bit said, I'm starting to get a
little bit annoyed with it. But I do think it's
more like Bob Jones.

Speaker 8 (01:02:21):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 24 (01:02:23):
I think I used to be very defensive of them,
but I understand why people get annoyed. But I think
for visitors, for people that they're trying to show the brand,
it is classically New Zealand, and I think it does
show parts of the country and our people in a
way that it's hard to get people to read that
magazine or whatever. You know, it is a good way,
but sometimes it is a bit like what was the
safety message?

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Yeah, sometimes I don't. I have to read the little
card to remind myself where the life jacket is. Richard,
was the Coldplay show last night the best Play best
show you've ever been to?

Speaker 24 (01:02:52):
I think it was the best show, the best show
you've ever been to. I couldn't comment, but it's a
big it's a high bar, but it was amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
It was of another answer, it was the best show
you've ever been too, best show I've ever been to.

Speaker 24 (01:03:04):
It was fantastic. And to see all those people. I
took the train and the bus back and people were buzzing.
The city was full, people were positive, people were using
the fan trail and that's going to happen on Friday
and Saturday too, So big for the city. Great to
have the there, and the hotels are full, and it's yeah,
it's just nice when these things happen. After Peel Jam
last weekend as well.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Yeah, absolutely, Hey, thank you both. I really appreciate it.
Richard Hill's Nick leigot our huddle. It's eight away from
six red.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
Or blue, Trump or Harris? Who will win the battleground states?
The latest on the US election, it's Heather duplicy Alan
drive with one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
New Zealand let's get connected these talks.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Bhither did you pay for your own ticket? Wizard of
free Bee? It was a preeb not even gonna line.
It was a pree bee. And I'll tell you what.
I do have my own ticket for Saturday. But here's
the problem. It's it's a general admission ticket. Now I
find out because my friend bought the tickets. So I'm
not all together like a top scrounge anyway. But the

(01:04:02):
problem is, I don't really know if I can stand
for that long, given that I am so heavily pregnant. Anyway,
well wending and moaning, never mind, carry on. I want
to talk to you about Mlania at Trump.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
It kind of kills me to say this, but I
think I like Milania Trump because Milania Trump ain't gonna
be told what to do by the people around her.
The latest report is that she is not going to
move into the White House when when Donald moves into
the White House, because he's the president again. Mlania is
not coming. She cannot be bothered. She cannot be bothered
having to deal with jills curtains, Jill's couches, Jill's color choices,

(01:04:34):
having to hang out with the Washington elite. Like, she's
just not gonna do it. She's gonna stay wherever she
wants to say. Whether that's marri Lago or New York,
I don't know. Because what is interesting about this is,
of course Mlani was nowhere to be seen really on
the campaign trail, so she wasn't going to be told
that she needed to go at campaigning. And then when
she was told to go and have a meeting with
Jill Biden, she was also not going to be told
to have that meeting, so she didn't do it. Now

(01:04:56):
over that brew, haha. She has just in the last
day released a statement which I also love because the
statement says, Missus Trump will not be attending the meeting
at the White House with Jill Biden. Her husband's return
to the Oval Office to commence the transition process is
encouraging him, encouraging, and she wishes him great success. This

(01:05:16):
is what I am going to do from here on
in this is how I feel like. This is independent
woman life right now. So when your husband's leaving in
the morning, you say, Tata, your departure for work is encouraging,
and I wish you great success. When he comes back
and he's like, honey, look I've mowed the lawns. You go,
that is encouraging and I wish you great success. I
don't need to be part of all of this anymore.
I'm just going to be encouraged and wish you great success.

(01:05:39):
Actually that's a bit loveless, isn't it, because let's be honest. No,
I don't think we need to go down the path
of Millennia Trump. I think we all know Milani and
Donald stop loving each other a very long time ago,
which is probably why she doesn't want to do anything
she's told to do. Still love it. Shane Jones, the
Energy Minister, is going to be with us straight out
to six o'clock because we are putting a lot of
money as a country. Hopefully it's the money we get
from this student loan. People actually just reinvest that to

(01:06:02):
explore super deep geothermal energy possibilities. So he'll run us
through that shortly. News talks at bar.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Keeping track of where the money as you going With
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Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Even in coming up in the next hour, we're gonna
have a chat to Sam Dickie. He will have a
look at the Trump trading for us. In the last week,
Liam Dan will talk us through the food price inflation,
Jamie Mackay the Fonterra AGM and then Endebrady's with us
out of the UK eight past six. Now the government's
setting aside sixty million dollars to explore the potential of
so called supercritical geothermal energy. Conventionally we're drooling about three

(01:06:56):
and a half k's deep at the moment, but scientists
reckon supercritical drilling to a depth of six case has
the potential to generate near limitless power and the Resources
and Energy Minister Shane Jones is with us nowy Shane, Hey,
so what kind of energy is it that you're pulling
out here? What are we talking about?

Speaker 6 (01:07:16):
Twenty percent of the current electricity we generate this traceable
back to geothermal energy from a depth of two maybe
three and a half kilometers. We want to go six
kilometers closer to the magma, supercritical super hot, a far
more intense form of geothermal energy, with the capacity to

(01:07:40):
grow our electricity supply platform by probably another fifty percent,
dive down energy prices and give us greater security.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
Private company's already doing this.

Speaker 6 (01:07:52):
Private companies in New Zealand are busily gouging and profiting
excessively from industry and households. They have no interest in
massively expanding the supply of energy because it'll drive down prices.
To you and I does compromise their profits.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Okay, so you think that they would do it if
they actually had an incentive to do it, but they
just don't want to do The reason I'm asking you
the Shane is because if a private company isn't doing it,
I start to get a bit wary about the public
getting involved in it. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:08:23):
No, I don't what you mean.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Well, if there's if there is no reason, if a
private company looks at this thing and doesn't see that
there is a reason for them to get involved in
this right that the return on the investment outweighs it
makes sense to them, then is it smart for us
as a government to be throwing money into it? If
it doesn't make commercial sense. Why would we do it?

Speaker 6 (01:08:47):
It's smart for a government to secure energy security. We
almost ran out of energy last winter. The price has
got to such a sky high level. We had the
highest energy US is in the world. The current gent tailors,
the major energy electricity producers, have no incentive to boost

(01:09:09):
our energy security because insecurity massively expands their profits. No government,
no politician like Shane Jones, can sit lately buy while
we suffer energy poverty and a small cost of shareholders
grossly profit.

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Where in the country do you do this?

Speaker 6 (01:09:28):
The volcanic plateau represents that this stage's the best potential.
That's aleppo popo coroo. I mean we are sitting on
a potential energy magic carpet down to that part of
the country. You are right, there are risks, but that's
what governments exist for. Where there's a market failure and

(01:09:51):
let's fail. Let's be honest. The market is failing grossly
in terms of energy in New Zealand. That's why it's
not an unreasonable contribution to test is the science correct
and can the engineering be made to perform to give
us this new platform in a climate uncertain environment of

(01:10:11):
fresh green energy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
And Shane, is this something that you do on shore
or offshore?

Speaker 6 (01:10:18):
No, the electricity that we may generate over time from
the geothermal field will be on shore. The offshore was
from the wind farms. They've now gone home off the
coast of Taranaki. Of course they blamed they blamed the
offshore mining for that which there's another matter and once

(01:10:40):
again further evidence of falsehoods.

Speaker 3 (01:10:42):
Shane, were you in Parliament today for the carry on?

Speaker 6 (01:10:46):
I sadly wasn't in the cargo announcing jobs, announcing investments
and supporting the aquaculture industry. My colleague Casey Costello was there,
but by all accounts it turned into a circus with
the Maldi Party, in particular the young lady from Tynery.
But I'm not surprised that the Maori Party are subverting parliament.

(01:11:07):
They're malcontents. They are there to undermine the legitimacy of
parliament and they are using that as a basis to
recruitt members from their party. The whole Hikhoi, which is
actually a khakoy, is designed as a clarion called to
boost the appeal of the Malord Party.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Now, Shane, what I'd like to know from you because
you've been in Parliament a very very long time. Is
what we're seeing at the moment is it's getting increasingly
weird in there and rowdy and there's a lot more misbehavior.
How do you stop this from escalating?

Speaker 6 (01:11:40):
Well, there are provisions that Terry Brown has now once
things get completely out of control. The Parliament has inherent
powers to imprison members of Parliament.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
Well, actually chuck them in jail.

Speaker 6 (01:11:55):
At Parliament has inherent powers to put people in jail.
And the way the Maldi Party comes Karen, Oh, that's
a great That seemed to me quite an appropriate response.
Democratic I will that there lies the problem. It's an
ancient doction Will have inherited through our parliamentary wisners to

(01:12:16):
based democracy. But with the threatening ugly behavior in the
Butler of mining change and sees that as a reasonable
discussion point.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
And when you if Parliament, if Jerry was to do
that and chuck them in jail, what are we talking
about the clink down at Wellington District Court. Are like
that down at the local police station or is there
some sort of special jail at Parliament.

Speaker 6 (01:12:41):
I'm not entirely sure. If Stuart Ireland's got a jail,
but some distant destination for these malcontents wouldn't be a
bad idea, Shane, I like.

Speaker 3 (01:12:48):
That idea more than your geo thermal idea. Will be
honest with you, I appreciate it change showing resources Minister,
which is not to say I don't like the geothermal idea,
but this idea has really tickled me. Pink anyway, see
how that goes. Sky TV just want to talk about
them really quickly. Sounds like the negotiations to keep Rugby
on Sky TV are getting pretty hairy. Sky had the

(01:13:09):
annual shareholder meeting this morning and they said they still
haven't got a deal with New Zealand Rugby, even though
the exclusive negotiating period with New Zealand Rugby actually wrapped
up at the end of last month, so about two
weeks ago. They this is Sky They really want to
have the whole thing done by the end of the year.
It's logistics, it's about you know, it's just about basically
a time frames for knowing what comes up in the future. Anyway,

(01:13:32):
so they they're kind of running out out of runway here.
Sounds like the problem the sticking point is z are
wants to be able to give Sky some rugby to
put on Sky, but then keep some rugby for itself
to put on their own streaming platform, which is called
NZR plus or something like that. Sky then obviously is like, well,
if I'm not getting all the rugby exclusively, and if

(01:13:53):
you're going to be putting some of the rugby on
your weird little streaming platform, then I'm not going to
pay you as much. And so that is where they're
having a bit of a row about it. I'd bother
by the looks of things reading between the lines. I've
got to be honest with you, I don't know about
INZTR getting into broadcasting its own rugby. And the only
reason I say that is because INZTR has got its plateful.

(01:14:14):
It actually is doing a pretty crap job at the
moment of rugby right. Look at the Super Rugby competition.
It sucks. Look at what's going on with the All Blacks.
We're constantly frustrated. We have no bloody idea what's going
on with the All Blacks? Why has Ethan de Groutz
stood down? You like the whole thing, just that the
governance situation is just a shambles. So if they've got
all of this stuff that they have to deal with.
Should they really be trying to do someone else's job

(01:14:36):
as well? Maybe just stick to doing their own job
A little bit better called a past.

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Analysis from the experts, bringing you everything you need to
know on the US election. It's The Business Hour with
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Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
It'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Hither.

Speaker 3 (01:14:55):
I absolutely love Shane's deep geothermal idea. I don't have that.
Don't get the issue you have with the hair the
Please explain.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
I don't have an issue with it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:01):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
I just said that I don't have an issue with it.
I just love the jail idea.

Speaker 24 (01:15:07):
More.

Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Eighteen past six, Liam Dan is The Herald's Business editor
at large. Liam, Hello, what's going on with the monthly
food prices?

Speaker 5 (01:15:14):
Then?

Speaker 28 (01:15:15):
Well, sort of sort of good news. I mean, you know,
it's in case, it's not rocket science. It's October and
vegetables got cheaper. But broadly speaking, the food prices were
down a bit or flat, which is good news because
the rest of the inflation story is catching up. The

(01:15:35):
all that non tradable inflation is catching up, So the
economists are quite happy about that. Looks like we will
be on target to hit the inflation target around two percent,
so you know, look broadly good news. But I just
did notice a little caveat there that the dairy prices
are starting to creep up. So you know, now this
is weirdly a good thing for New Zealand, right, But

(01:15:57):
it just means watch that block of cheese price because
I can guarantee people will be complaining about it in
the coming months as the dairy farmers go about the
business of possibly saving the economy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:09):
Are we all settled on a fifty basis point cut
this month rather than seventy five?

Speaker 8 (01:16:13):
Looks looks like it.

Speaker 28 (01:16:14):
I think I said to you, I thought they'd go
seventy five a few weeks ago, but nobody's picking that anymore.
The unemployment came in a bit better than expected, and
then of course our dear friend Donald Trump is expected
to do a whole bunch of policies. It has the
markets pushing bond yields up, which means interest rates around
the world rise, and so that's a little bit more

(01:16:37):
upward pressure. So I don't think we're going to see
anything other than fifty I mean, they couldn't go less
than that. We're still had all the recessionary problems, but
seventy five does look to be off the table.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
I good to talk to you. Thank you, Liam, really
appreciate it. Liam dan Ol Jesus Editor at Large. Willie
Jackson just put out a tweet says this today, I
was ejected from the House for my response to the
first of the Treaty Principal's bill. I just want to
clarify something I will not apologize for. What is the truth.
David Seymour has continually misrepresented the treaty. End of story,
kere order and goodnight.

Speaker 6 (01:17:10):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
The interesting thing there is Willy Jackson called David Seymour
a liar in the House, and that's what god him ejected.
But notice he doesn't use the word liar in the tweet.
He just uses the phrase continually misrepresented the treaty. So
Willie Jackson's very, very happy to use the old L
word to make a point while he's under the cloak
of parliamentary privilege in the House. But when he comes

(01:17:33):
out and he's like, I stand by my convictions, but
I'm not going to use the L word because I
might get sued for defamation all of a sudden. The
principle is not quite so strong, is it as it?
That says political Stunt Duvals founder Kenyan Clark speaking of Coldplay,
looks like he went to Coldplay. Had too good a
night last night, by the looks of things, because he
hit the Instagram, didn't he After he put a picture

(01:17:54):
of Coldplay and then a blur, just a blurb afterwards,
and the blurb on is in post basically accuses the
government of government theft because he said the FMA did
the raid and then seized his technology, his wife's wedding ring,
the birthday present his parents gave him when he was sixteen,
didn't say what the present was. Said, He's not going

(01:18:15):
to be as easy to deal with as Alan Hubbard,
who was the last guy who was put under statutory
management before this is the new guy who's been put
under statutory management. He said, Well, here's the thing. I'm
not an eighty three year old accountant. I'm not going anywhere.
This is my home. And while I may be under
a gag order not to speak about any questionable f
MA investigation, I can say get on and charge me.

(01:18:37):
I can't wait to see you in court and expose
every grubbly little deal, every grubby witness and the trial
by media and the absence of any evidence.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
And then he said he's going to have a biblical
response at the FMA. He deleted the Instagram when wiser
heads prevailed, and the wiser head would belong to his wife, who, apparently,
he says, read the Instagram post and wasn't happy and
he had to delete. So there's a lesson in this
once again, stop using social media, Like how many times
I have to tell you stop using social media. It

(01:19:06):
just gets you in trouble. But also, don't go on
the rams at Coldplay and then use the social media
because then your wife's going to say, if you're not
gonna like it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
Six twenty two, if it's to do with money, it
matters to you. The Business Hour with Heather Duper, c
Allen and my Hr The HR Solution for Busy smy
on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
So it's been what is it? Has it been a
week since Trump was elected? Is it only a week?
It feels like four, isn't it. Anyway, it's been a
week of trading. Sam Dicki's going to have a look
at over it all the trump exuberant and stuff. When
he's with us in a round about twelve minutes time,
he'll talk us through at six twenty five and with
me right now. Is Jamie McKay, Host to the Country. Hey,
Jamie good Hey, are you going to the Christis JMP show?

Speaker 13 (01:19:49):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Yes?

Speaker 26 (01:19:51):
I am. I'm about to board a plane from Dunedin
and if I get the call, I'll have to hang
up on you quickly. But I'm not due to board
till six point thirty, so I should be safe.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Yeah, you're not boarding at six thirty, don't worry.

Speaker 26 (01:20:02):
About Yeah, well I could be joining sixty thousand others
at the christ Church amp Show this year. They're calling
it that it used to be called. It was the
Artist formerly known as the New Zealand Agricultural Show, which
is a week down on the one hundred thousand they
normally get. It is the biggest amp show in the country,
or it was until it was canceled at the beginning

(01:20:26):
of this year. And to be fair, a local event
hire company and Sir David Carter got together and they
revived it. So got on them A bit of a
cold and damp start to the show today only hired
sixteen tomorrow they're expecting eighteen which will be better. And
the last day of the show for the public on
Saturday only twelve decrees and of course a big day

(01:20:47):
at Rickerton on Saturday as well free for all at
Addington tomorrow. So it's all I really looking forward to it.
The sharing, the wood shopping and the equestrian get under
way tomorrow. It's a public holiday in christ Church, so
looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:02):
The Fonterra AGM today, How did the farmers in the
shareholder and so on feel about the consumer brands being
sold off?

Speaker 26 (01:21:09):
Well, I think there was some grumblings, but not too many.
Peter McBride, who's a very smart man, Miles Hurrell, gets
a lot of the credit quite rightly. So as chief executive,
he's he's the front face if you want to Fontira.
Peter McBride's a kind of a reserved sort of guy,
but he's got a very good track record at Zespri

(01:21:30):
before Fonterra and between the two of them they've really
turned the good ship Fonterra around. And he just fronted
up to the shareholders there and said, look, you can
spend this money better than we can. And look, I
don't think there'll be too many grumbles from the farmer
shareholders here that it's worth about two bucks two bucks
and counting the share for them. And just remember this,
at the beginning of the year, the farmer's shares that

(01:21:52):
they've got to buy to supply the co op, we're
trading at two dollars fifty. I think they were at
a low of two dollars twelve last year. They're up
to four dollars eighty eight today, so they've seen a
considerable improvement on their balance sheet. And if they get
another couple of bucks a share, you know they're starting
to cook with gas. They're in me in the high sixes. Interestingly, also,

(01:22:16):
Fonterra came out recently and on Monday, I think it
wasn't and obviously went to nine dollars fifty for a
mid Olympic. The futures market and that only is the
future is sitting now at nine dollars ninety. I see
B and Z lifted, there's up to nine seventy five. Look, Heather,
I think I said this to you the other day.
Ten dollars is on the cards. Now you talked about Trump,

(01:22:39):
Trump and American economy up, supposedly New Zealand dollar down,
so all those things are playing in the favor of
New Zealand exporters. Just on that Fonterra Agm today. The
only hiccup I think they were greeted by some Greenpeace
protesters calling for a band on palm Colonel. But when
it comes to protesting, let's face it today here the Greenpeace.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Switches for Hey, you've got one minute before you board.
Best of luck, Jamie, Thank you, Jamie McKay. Host of
the Country, Sam Dicky's with us next.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
It's headed duplicy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to
my HR the HR solution for busy Smy's on news
Talks Bright.

Speaker 3 (01:23:39):
The Grading is going to view with us out of
the UK and ten minutes time. Interesting news out of
the UK is that one of their biggest papers, The Guardian,
is quitting Twitter or x as it now as known.
It's sent out an internal email to staff saying they're
welcome to continue rolling, to continue rolling with their personal accounts,
but their work accounts will be shut in the Guardian's
work account will be shut or mothballed or whatever they're

(01:24:01):
calling it, because the social network has become ever more toxic.
And then they also said in a blog post that
they had concerns over fire right conspiracy theories and racism.
Now I applaud them for this because I think, I
frankly think that all journalists should stop using social media
because basically it just opens you up to being targeted

(01:24:23):
by people so that they can change your mind on things.
But also as well as that, I just I think
it creates problems with echo chambers for a lot of
journalists as well, so I would be taking them off
that as well. And also then you get the kind
of the weird stuff that happens, like Willie Jackson tweeting
out stuff like that and Ginny Anderson tweeting and you know,
stupid tweets and stuff like that. Get the journals off,
then you don't have so much controversy. But I just like,

(01:24:45):
haha to the Guardian that the reason that they're pulling
themselves off is because it's toxic. Twitter has been toxic
since the get go. The only problem is largely it's
been toxic. The toxicity has been aimed at people who
identify with the right right, So it's been lefties who've
been really toxic, aiming it at the right. Now what's
happened to elo So it's been a nasty place for ages,

(01:25:06):
but now Elon Musk has taken over. Now the people
on the right field and bold, and then they're going
at the left on Twitter and now the you know
left publications like the Guardian don't like it anymore. It's
been it's not been a very likable place for a
very long time. Twenty two away from seven he the
duplice Ellen right. So to the Trump trading. Now these
things are still riding. The Trump trades are still riding high.
A week on from the U S election. Some of

(01:25:27):
the initial Neuforia show signs of wearing off. A question
of course, is now how sustainable all of the stuff is?
And Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds is with us right now. Sam,
Hello to you. Hello, So Sam, run me through who
the in your eyes, initially, who the winners and losers
of the Trump's trades were.

Speaker 21 (01:25:44):
We're not We're not through Rinston Trump yet, I hope,
but the winners initially with the US in general, so
it does feel like there's an enormous sucking sound on
equity markets around the world, and all this money is
flowing out of global equity markets into the US equity
So now you secuities are up five percent, in Europe's
down two, in China's down five, so that's sort of

(01:26:04):
seven ten percent out performance in a few days is
pretty rare. And then the US dollars has been a
clear winner, appreciating against all comers really, and then within
the US it's kind of domestic facing make America great.
US sectors were the initial winners. So steel companies are
up thirteen percent, US trucking companies up ten. Of course,
big banks up ten percent, but perceived losers still are

(01:26:26):
bonds or a loser. People are selling bonds and sold
the companies with sort about ten or fifteen percent.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
How sustainable do you think these moves are?

Speaker 21 (01:26:35):
Well, I mean, if we sort of pick on say
four of those asset classes, and we start with steel stocks,
because they are super interesting. They did rep hire initially,
so everyone expected the first tariff he would throw on
China will be steel, like in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen.
But what's super interesting is the steel stocks are now
back below where they were before Donald Trump was elected,

(01:26:57):
and what's happening there is, of course, there's unintended consequent
bull first and foremost by the way he may not
put these tariffs on. Secondly, if you put a tariff
on Chinese steel steel exports, that drives up US steel price,
isn't it. I don't think anyone in the US is
buying steelers suddenly, say ten, fifteen, twenty percent wealthyer and

(01:27:17):
can afford there. And secondly, kind of what goes around
comes around. In any anti China policy which impacts the
Chinese economy, you've got to remember that the biggest buyer
of steel globally is China. They have ten times the
demand that the US have, sort of these reflective second
round impacts. And I guess if you're going no, no, no, no.

(01:27:42):
If you go to the I mean US banks, for example,
giant banks like JP Morgan up ten percent, talking less regulations.
So for everyone you regulation, you acts ten. But if
you go to the sort of slightly less fundamental end
of the spectrum, you know, Keesler baskets of unprofitable tech
companies and bitcoin all up almost exactly the same amount,
say twenty five to thirty percent and that tells me

(01:28:03):
there's a lot of retail animal spirits at play. So
recall he was super pro bitcoin. But what I find
most remarkable of the test move so Trump is made
the lelon. But that's a very valuable friendship. It's worth
quarter of a trillion dollars to Tesla's market cap.

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Yeah, totally. Do you think the dusters, I mean it's
it's probably too early for the dust to completely have settled,
right I think so, Yes.

Speaker 21 (01:28:25):
We'll see which tariffy roll rolls out in which order.
But I would wouldn't so much caution but encourage investors
to look at second and third round impacts. I do
think that steel stock example is a great example that
these things don't just happen in a vacuum. There are
unintended consequences. And the other thing to remember is, you
know interest rates are moving higher and antit anthicipation of

(01:28:49):
a boost to you as economic growth. If that doesn't happen,
someone will shift there, whether it be interest rates falling
or equities falling.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
Sam, I don't want to I mean I want you
to tell me all obviously what investors should take away
from this, But would one of the things that investors.
Wouldn't one of the things be that you actually can't
predict what Donald Trump is going to do, and you'd
be a fool to try.

Speaker 21 (01:29:10):
That's rather again, like we said last week, i'man back
in twenty sixteen, everyone was convinced he wouldn't get in,
and then in the unlikely event he did, stop markets
would fall very sharply. Well, they were wrong on both
counts last time, and here we go again. Stop markets
are predicting what he's going to do and he hadn't
even really got a seat under the desk. So let's
wait and see.

Speaker 3 (01:29:30):
Yeah too, right, Hey, Sam, thank you for being a
cool head in all of this, Sam Dickie Official Funds
I mentioned a long time ago in this program actually
Health New Zealand and never even got around to tell
you about it. Health New Zealand never ending source of
ridiculous things that's going on. The latest thing that Health
New Zealand has tried to do, because remember that they're

(01:29:50):
having the cost cuts, right, and they're going through and
finding that they're finding the most bizarre things to cut.
And the latest thing they were going to cut is
staff access to my low I mean, honestly, how much
does staff access to Milow costs if their staff work,
if their workplace is anything like our workplace, milo is

(01:30:11):
the last thing that people are drinking because they've grown
ups generally, I mean the espresso coffee that's going down
at a rate of knots at our workplace, the tea
constantly empty, the what's it called instant coffee that goes
down quite fast because actually, to be honest, right, I'm
not too snobby to have an instant coffee from time
to time. But the Milo, I mean that probably doesn't

(01:30:34):
get I don't know how often that I would be
worried about eating the Milo, because I'd be like it,
does it get replaced every year or what? So how
much money did they think they were going to save
at Health New Zealand. Remember this is Health New Zealand
whose other budget cutting proposals were to cut fifteen hundred
nurses and five hundred doctors. Yeah, cool, good idea, good idea.

(01:30:57):
And also to stop giving mums who've just given birth toast.
So now they've got the Milo one anyway, Lester, Lester's
probably pulling his hair out at the stage. Lester's the
chap who's now the Commissioner. Lester had to send an
email and be like, we're not going to cut your Milo.
We're keeping the Milo. Because Lester is really having to
parent these guys a sixteen away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:31:17):
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Speaker 3 (01:31:30):
Your information, they actually have cut the Milo. Oh no,
oh that that's a rebellion within the ranks. You need
to because you obviously work at Health New Zealand. You
need to hit the email and you need to email Lister.
It's probably something like Lester dot Levy at MH or
tefut to order dot govt dot and said anyway, email

(01:31:51):
him and tell him they've cut the Milo, because he
sent out the email he said that we're going to
cut the malo. So he needs to know that that
Margie's cut the malow because Margine is not the first
time Margine.

Speaker 23 (01:32:00):
He's got a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:32:00):
Rogua is at thirteen away from Steven in the Brady
UK correspondence with I say, Inda.

Speaker 19 (01:32:05):
Hey, Heather, lovely to speak to you again.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
What do you make of the Guardian taking itself off Twitter.

Speaker 19 (01:32:10):
I absolutely applaud them. It's a toxic platform. It has
been for a very long time. The abuse of people,
the hounding of people. I just put a personal anecdote.
I think back to when I was ill and I
couldn't walk, and I was in bed and my daughter
was taking me to the bathroom. I gave one interview
to a radio station in Ireland because the producer is

(01:32:31):
a very good friend, and I was quite concerned that
if this new COVID variant had left me on my knees,
what was it going to do to vulnerable people like
my sister. So I gave that interview and within an
hour I had people wishing me dead. You know, when
you're flatting your back in bed, you're scrolling on a
phone and there's nothing else to do. I just I

(01:32:52):
remember thinking at the time, Wow, this is a really,
really toxic platform. Since Musk has taken over, it's got Yeah.
I can see why the Guardian are doing it. And look,
I guess people would say, oh, you know, if you're
a journalist and you're sharing information, you need as many
platforms as possible.

Speaker 1 (01:33:10):
No, you don't.

Speaker 19 (01:33:11):
Nobody needs Twitter in their life or X or whatever
he calls it. It is such a toxic, negative place.
It's just like, you know, imagine being that perpetually angry
every hour of the day.

Speaker 3 (01:33:22):
Yeah too.

Speaker 12 (01:33:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:33:23):
It's interesting though, because obviously what the Guardian could have
done is I mean, I still retain my Twitter account.
I just don't. I don't read what any very occasionally
I'll go and see, you know, if I need to
see some stupid thing that some stupid New Zealand politicians
tweeted out, then I have the access to that because
I have an account, right, But I never look at
what people say to me because I don't need that
negativity in my life. But why didn't the Guardian choose

(01:33:44):
to do that, just post it stuff out and never
look at it again? Why did they take me? It
feels like it taking a stands a stand.

Speaker 19 (01:33:51):
Yeah, they're taking a stand against Muskue. I think they're
just saying enough is an offer. Look what we're seeing
this guy. He's not American. You know, we were told
old labor people from the UK interfering in the US elections.
You've got a guy going around giving a million dollars
out of people to vote for Trump. I mean, you
couldn't make this stuff up. So I think what they're
doing is just taking a stand. They don't want their

(01:34:13):
name and their brand associated with Twitter or him. And
there are plenty of other places out there. And you know,
I read the Guardian like I read every other newspaper.
They're very good. They've been going since the eighteen hundreds
and they're a bastion of British journalism. You know, it
is not a bad newspaper.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
No, it's an excellent newspaper. Actually, all right, tell me
about this dynamic pricing at this English public in the
London pub, because I don't mind it. You order after team,
you get your beer for four backs.

Speaker 19 (01:34:41):
No, you get four books added onto your beer. I
think this is outrageous. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, dynamic pricing.
So so hang on, let me just so. Basically, you
buy a beer at nine to fifty nine pm and
at sixteen dollars. This is O'Neill's in Soho in London. Yeah,
claim to be an Irish pub. It's about as Irish
as a penguin. So sixteen dollars of beer at nine
point fifty nine you ordered the exact same product a

(01:35:03):
minute later and they're now putting on a four dollars surcharge,
so your beer suddenly becomes twenty dollars. And they're saying
that this is, you know, in keeping with prices in
the area. And I think what they're doing is they're
cashing in on the fact that there's probably some luxurious
hotels in that area that if you go for a
beer very late at night, they will charge you twenty dollars.

(01:35:25):
But you're sitting in a five star hotel surrounded with
very glamorous people, and O'Neill's, which is a bang average
Irish and inverted commas pub. I think they're cashing in shamelessly.
I think it's really really wrong. We've seen dynamic pricing
with the Oasis tickets here, basically fleecing working people, and
I real concern that other premises will think, hang on,

(01:35:48):
they're doing it.

Speaker 23 (01:35:49):
We can do it.

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
Yeah, And not to mention, eighteen o'clock at night, you
probably quite drunk, can't you, so you don't realize what
just happened to you.

Speaker 19 (01:35:57):
Yeah, And it's not advertised anywhere, there's no do you know,
it's not like to tell you coming in that you
know by the way we wacker our prices up after
ten o'clock. I mean, I don't know. I just honestly
I'm dreaming of Christmas in Ireland and our local pub,
Martiv is the best pub in Ireland and I can't
wait to get back there. And you get the best ginness,
the best ginness in the world, and you get change

(01:36:17):
out of ten dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
How good.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
We're all dreaming of Christmas in the thanks so much
into Brady UK correspondent. Heither in a formal life, I
used to supply the Ministry of Health with the tea
and the coffee and the Milo. They would buy Milo
by the pellette loads, so I can understand why that
would be on the radar. It's not as surprising as
you might think. How about that these are the health people, Hey,

(01:36:40):
these are the people who are all like up in
your grill about what you're eating and feeding your baby
and donk you formula and the baby all of that stuff. Yeah,
rest his best hold on while I just make myself
a suggary little drink. Snapped you de away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:54):
Getting ready for a new administration in the US. What
will be the impact?

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Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Talks that'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
Hey, listen to this five away from seven. I don't
regularly give credit to the people who run public sect,
you know, the public transport. I don't give credit to
public transport in general because I don't actually use it
that often. So I want to break that habit and
give some credit to people, and especially I never give
credit to Auckland transport. But I'm going to break the
habit of a lifetime. I'm and give them some because
one of the best things to happen to public transport

(01:37:27):
in Auckland is happening on Sunday, which is that you
from Sunday are going to be able to jump on
a bus or a train or a ferry and you'll
be able to just whip out your credit card or
your debit card or your smartphone however you pay your
bills with like a contactless thing, swipe it like a
wavy thing, and you'll be able to pay to get
on that particular motor transport just by using your credit

(01:37:47):
card or your debit card or your smartphone or whatever. Now,
up to now, what you've had to do is get
a Hop card. Is it what it's called a hop card.
You've had to buy a hopcard. You've had to go
down to the Ferry terminal or some such thing and
go and get your ID and then, oh my gosh,
like it's such a pain in the butt that nobody like.
That's why I was like, I don't catch the bus
in this city because I don't have a help card

(01:38:09):
and I'm not gonna that's too much admin. So now
you can just use it. This is brilliant because when
you go to Melbourne you jump on the trams there.
You got to have a Mikey card, right, so if
you go to visit Melbourne. I went to visit Melbourne,
I was like, I'm not going to buy a Mikey card.

Speaker 5 (01:38:21):
Get stuffed.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
I just caught the trams for free. I was like, thanks,
you made it too hard. If they did this, you
would pay for the trams. So anyway, all click transport.
Not every day I give this tube, but I'm giving
this to you. This is going to be wonderful and
it'll bring some cash in and maybe people like me
might actually catch the bus every now and again because
it's easy to pay for now and it's how good.

Speaker 6 (01:38:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (01:38:42):
Just to note as well that you will be paying
the adult fair if you use a credit card or
you're pay or whatever. So if you're a student or
you're on some kind of concession, keep using the Hot
card if you want to keep getting the discount.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
Yeah, if you're if you're great.

Speaker 29 (01:38:54):
Power, yeah yeah, yeah, I think you're using the Gold card. Yeah,
but you're me hither, you're right, Well, you have to
pay that fair anyway. So yeah, Paradise a cold Play
to play us out tonight. I'm not going to fight
against the tidle on this one. If it's the best
show you've ever been to, we're gonna play it tonight.
And then they've got the next show at Eden Park
tomorrow as well, so we'll be playing Coldplay tomorrow as well.

Speaker 6 (01:39:11):
Mate.

Speaker 29 (01:39:11):
It's all about Coldplay here.

Speaker 3 (01:39:12):
One hundred good for them, surprisingly awesome gig. If you
don't believe me, go read the review in the Guardian
of Glastonbury and how they were like, what this was awesome?
Everybody has this experience when we go to Coldplay. We're like,
we were expecting that from you. You irritating dad. See
you tomorrow. News Talks It'd Be.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
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