Full Show Podcast: 19 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's hither Duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand let's
get connected news talk said.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Be.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
Hey, good afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today.
There is discussion now about how you punish MPs more
harshly to stop them pulling stunts like the hakka last week.
We'll talk to former Speaker David Carter, but what you
can actually do. Foodstuffs has confirmed it will appeal. We'll
have a chat to a competition lawyer about that, and
we'll also speak to the Kiwi Space company that's broken
the sound barrier for the first time.

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Heather Duplicy Ellen, Well, I.

Speaker 4 (00:36):
Reckon the hikoy can be called a success, don't you.
I mean, it was peaceful, got heaps of attention. I
will get heaps of attention on the evening news, and
it's pretty big. And what it did by being that
big was it energize people who are sympathetic to that
side of the argument. And that counts for a lot.
I mean, because basically everybody who's there, it's going to
look around and feel absolutely stoked that there are at
least another thirty four nine and ninety nine people who

(00:58):
feel exactly the same. So as far as protests go
pretty good one, and by the way, don't forget also
the people who didn't go to the protest and will
watch tonight who feel mildly sympathetic towards to thinking, oh, yeah, okay,
it's thirty five thousand people there. Yeah, I feel a
bit like that. So as far as protests go pretty
good one, the Maldi party should be feeling pretty pleased
for itself, with itself for putting this one together. But

(01:20):
do you know what I did today? I went to
Bunnings and I bought a Christmas tree, and then after
that I put the Christmas tree up with my son
and it's looking great. Yeah. And while I was at
Bunning's actually a lot of other people who were pretty
much doing the same kind of thing. HIKOI did not
feature in my life. HIKOI did not feature by the
looks of things and the lives of the people at Bunnings.
And I suspect most of the five million people in
the country will feel much to say, just got on

(01:42):
with their day, not in Wellington, unaffected. Kind of hard
to shake the feeling that the hekoy ended up being
absolutely a success, but kind of a bit of a
fizzer as well. It's weird, but I think it's because
thirty five thousand people, while a decent crowd, is pretty
much the same size as the crow that turned up
to protest the Dunedin hospital changes. Remember that. Remember that

(02:04):
was thirty five thousand people that were pulled just from Otago.
This is thirty five thousand feet people from across the country, right,
This is the whole more too, getting together. Otago does
thirty five thousand, the country does thirty five thousand, And
by the way, that's thirty five thousand people in Otago
without days and days and days of top of the
news media coverage. So one is clearly more impressive than

(02:26):
the other, don't you think. And part of the reason
it feels like a fizzle also is because the main
event already happened on Thursday, didn't it. That was the Haucker.
We're still talking about the hacker. They talked about it
in Parliament again today. It's hard to eclipse the Hucker
and the HECOI didn't eclipse the Hucker. I would say so,
while it is undoubtedly a success and I'm very pleased
it was as peaceful as expected. It is now over
and we can go to back to doing whatever it

(02:48):
was that we were doing before in.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
Our lives together.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
DUL nine two nine two is the text number. Standard
text fees apply, and I'm happy to hear what you've
got to say about that. Onto another subject altogether. In Auckland,
the mayor has confirmed that he is stripping some battled
council controlled organizations of their powers. Now he wants to
get rid of Auckland Transport, but he can't do that
just yet, so instead he's planning to take over the
back office functions for now Ikipanuku, which is the Economic

(03:11):
Development Arm is gone. Under this proposal, Auckland Unlimited will
lose a lot of its work. Wayne Brown is the mayor,
of course, hiwayn hello now Wayne, do you still I mean,
these are just proposals. So do you still need to
convince the council?

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Do you?

Speaker 5 (03:25):
I do, but I'm hopeful that I have done so.
When I stood for the mayor of one of the
two one of my five platforms, what it was to
get back control the council organizations because though supposedly council controlled,
but they're more council controlling and they've become independent, too independent,

(03:50):
and I'm set up with people ringing up and complaining
about things that I'm not in control off clear enough.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
So is the council on board with you? Do you reckon?
You'll get them over the line.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
I'm pretty hopeful.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Yeah, okay, So what are the back office functions that
you are going to take over at Auckland Transport?

Speaker 5 (04:08):
Well, I think we wanted to a bit more than
back office, but basically that we don't. We're the only
councilor that doesn't even write its own regional land transport plan.
And they even trust Gores and trusted as doing it
down there, but we're not here. It's stupid. I really
want them just to focus on public transport. If they
focused on that and really concentrated and did it well,

(04:28):
I'm sure that the people of Auckland would like them
a lot more than they do at the moment.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
So does that mean that would you take over speed bump,
speed limits, roads all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Well, the government's taken over the speed limits just recently
as well, which may or may not be a good idea.
I mean, I think that Auckland should be in control
of Auckland frankly, and that means I'd like to get
it less input from Willington as well as from the
independent counselors. But it would mean that we would be
taking over all the transport planning and set the annual plan.

(05:02):
It's a very least well do and administers agreed to
change the legislation or agreeing to train the legislation so
that we at least get that. But really a case
can be made that au can transport to just to
public transport.

Speaker 4 (05:15):
If they do. If you get to that point and
they do it, well, do you leave them doing?

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yeah? I think there is a place for independence at
some stage. But if you want to do that, you've
got to focus them on what it is you want
them to do. But they're not being focused to being
sort of they can do whatever they bloody like at
the moment, and they've wandered off for the whole lot
of things. When they do stuff in people's neighborhoods, they
managed to piss everybody off and that's not good. And

(05:47):
you know, we get voted for every three years and
they don't. And so if you're going to if you're
going to be blamed for it. I want to have
the ability to influence it.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Why let Auckland Unlimited keep running the zoo in the
gallery and stuff. I mean, I realize you're going to
take all of that kind of like the event funding
off them, but why let them keep running those big organizations.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Well, they're not doing a bad job of that, and
those have I mean ow many fixing things that are wrong,
and we may or may not take all the events
off them. But what I do particularly want to take
off them and keep central is economic development. Because economic development,
I mean the major cities in China, of which are
all booming and developed madly or not developed very well

(06:33):
but amazing. Right, it's all centrally planned with the mayor
leads it, surrounded by elected officials and that that's what
they concentrate on thinking, and so when they do something
or other, it's not random. Like when we develop an area,
we would ensure that there's business things and the man

(06:56):
sure there's a transport, planet picks up and water plan
the powers on and everything. It's very piecemeal here. It's
divided up by starting and players, and that doesn't work
and we're not having great development. Economic development in Zealand
And I aren't trying to have obviously in Ja overseas,
trying to reroute all of the passenger from between all

(07:19):
the stuff between Brazil and China via Auckland, and it'll
be a huge and put to Auckland's economic development. And
in some ways I don't know what it's fell to
me to do that, but wasn't happening. So I'm doing that.
But as me, I can have a real input on that.
But as it stands at the moment, I have known
put in economic development because I'm insulated away from it

(07:41):
by Tartak e Auckland.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Wayne, thank you very much and good luck. Goodl like
getting this across the line with the council. I hope
you actually have the numbers. That's Wayne Brown, Auckland's mayor. Heither.
I was at the he Court. It was amazing. In capitals,
the current government is one term. You can feel that
Luxon is so weak. Capitals. Tell the truth. There go, Jackie,
I told the truth for you now. One of the
most interesting things listen just to the US. One of

(08:05):
the most interesting things about Biden deciding to let Ukraine
use those long range missiles on Russia is that Trump
hasn't said anything about this, and this is quite a big,
quite a big u tune for Biden. So the fact
Trump hasn't said anything, given Trump's got some pretty big
views on Ukraine and Russia, is quite interesting. And what
makes it even more interesting is that there are a
whole bunch of people around him who have been publicly

(08:25):
quite outraged, including his son, but he and no one
that actually matters and is inner circle, has said anything. Apparently,
now there is speculation as to why that is. That
will be deliberate, and the speculation is that actually Trump
is totally cool with what Biden is doing because he
wants to do the same thing. And there's some speculation
that what he wants to do is give Ukraine so

(08:47):
much arsenal to use against Russia that Russia has to
come back to the negotiating table and negotiate to end
the war. And apparently there is some thinking that Donald
Trump's end goal here is a Nobel Peace Prize sixteen
past four.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Who will take the White House Results and analysis of
the US election on Heather Duplessy Alum drive with One
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Speaker 1 (09:11):
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Speaker 2 (09:15):
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Speaker 4 (09:20):
Nineteen past four and Darcy Waldgrave SportsTalk Coasters of Me, Hallo,
dars Hi. Harry Plumber going to ditch the all Blacks.

Speaker 6 (09:27):
I wouldn't say ditch the all blacks. He's going to
go to France where he's going to make a decent
amount of money before he has to retire and live
in a lovely part of the world.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
How is how is badly?

Speaker 6 (09:40):
According to producer ants Melicitchmon is where the micheline man.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
Comes from, the actual micheline man.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
You know of the tires, Yeah, not not the the
three stars with the rolls, the big guy.

Speaker 4 (09:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
And they invented that before tires became black because they
were white before that. But they I had to strengthen
tires somehow, so they added to compound to make them
more durable. And then tire has been from white to black.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
Has he been playing on the internet again?

Speaker 6 (10:08):
It's Google. It's about tires. I haven't got anywhere near
Google every now and then, you know, I've got I've
got something in my head that I can black out.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
That's interesting and weird facts. But why would Harry plumber
be doing this because isn't he just being lined up
to be in the All Blacks?

Speaker 6 (10:24):
Well, you've got to determine your why why do you
play rugby? What are you in it for? Some people
want a black jersey, some people want to be an
all black, They want to create history, they want to
go blah blah blah blah blah. Other people probably start
wanting to do that and just what and then they go,
you know what, this is a job, and I know
that sounds very romantic. He may have even started negotiating
this before he got given his cap. You don't know.

(10:46):
You had a good time with the Blues, you know,
first five eight, second, five eighth, and they come to
and said, well, you know what, do you want to
come play for us? Because you probably aren't likely to
be an all black? And then he got selected. But
then he's turned around in the fullness of time, he's
going to go, well, I've got three four people in
front of me. Am I actually going to be able
to play? Or am I going to be constantly training

(11:08):
and carrying luggage? And how much? Why wouldn't howl twenty six?

Speaker 4 (11:15):
You made it sound like he was so old that
it was nearly the end of his career.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
No, it's not nearly the end of his career. But
you know, rugby is like doesn't You don't last long?
One decent pam and it's all over. So I commend them.
Good on them, And for people complaining about that we're
going to lose all of our young players. We're going
to lose all blah blah blah. We create so many
brilliant players we can't employ them all. This is possible.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
We all got money, are here. It doesn't look like
we're making that many brilliant players, does it? Because the
World Rugby Awards are out? And have we got any
of our fifteen's players and the men's all the women's
squads through to like Player of the year?

Speaker 6 (11:50):
No, when was the last.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Time that happened?

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Does it matter?

Speaker 4 (11:56):
It's not good though, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 (11:58):
I don't want to appear jawned as by this. But
anyone who knows me and my words for the last
however long, knows that awards ceremonies are stupid?

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Are they?

Speaker 6 (12:07):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Okay, they mean, says someone who lost him any award.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Nothing. I've won a few, I've lost a few.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
But it's what it is.

Speaker 6 (12:14):
It's just you get together, you clip on a suit,
you drink with some of your colleagues. It's a great
social occasion. But on the enough play on boots so
you can become a World Rugby Player of the Year.
You put on boots to win.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
But if you actually looked at our squad, there aren't
any of them that you think, jeez, that is the
standout player in the world in that position.

Speaker 6 (12:35):
Who makes the decision around.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Abundantly clear to us who is awesome and who's not awesome.
Marcus Marcus Smith, He's wicked.

Speaker 6 (12:47):
So we've got we've got some sevens players in and
we've got some emerging talent coming through, which is good.
What is one of the emerging talents coming through? And
he's got a couple of guys up against them.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
South Africa has got three in the men's fifteen of
the year.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
Is one of my favorites, and they are world champions.
They're almost impossible to beat. You kind of get that.
So it's a reflection to a degree of what you
achieve at that level. But I think people don't play
rugby to getting the warden fact Monaco.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
And you're being simplistic about this. It's a reflection of
how well your players are playing, right, because they will
get recognized that these awards, if they're awesome. Isn't James
Low from Ireland to Kiwi? But yes, okay, I go
in there. I wouldn't try the year.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
Oh right, Okay, there you go. Well he's not really
He's Irish, now, isn't he. I just I think that
we interested in Super Championships, any PC titles and World Cups,
holding the Budslow Cup, beating the South Africans. There are
so many more things that important. Say tell me who
the Player of the Year was two years ago? No,
I don't know either. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Pursuit on, I probably have to run you run this
out at seven o'clock starts talking. Just get your ass
handed to you by the callers. Ah no, I won't
because I'm right anyway, give them a hard time. If
you're listening at seven o'clock, that's when we're talking.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
Harry Palmer tonight with the player Agent. Two by the bye,
Simon Porter joins us from Halo Stuff.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
Darcy Watergo sportstorre Coast. He'll be back at seven. Hit
him hard for twenty four.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
The name you trust to get the answers you need.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Heather duple c Allen drive with one New Zealand let's
get connected and youth talk.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
As they'd be uh here.

Speaker 4 (14:35):
The Ardie Savier won the World Player of the Year
in twenty twenty three. Thank you Paul for proving Darcy wrong.
There for twenty six listen. Parliament today was discussing what
to do about the MPs. It sounds like MP's not
just Hannah, my Hannah at arfter. He might be Clark
who led the haka, but it appears many of them,
if not all of them, he's had. This is Jerry Brownley.

(14:55):
He's had complaints from Shane Jones of New Zealand, first,
Sue's Redman of National and Todd Steve Vincent of the
Act Party. The MP's complained about have until Thursday at
one o'clock to make a decision and then to reply
in their own defense, and then he will make a decision.
Shane Jones, though, wants the punishment increased so this kind
of stunt doesn't happen again.

Speaker 7 (15:15):
But it is very important in my view that the
House in New Zealanders see you take this position and
this issue incredibly seriously and provide back to us a
level of guidance whether or not the deterrence. The range
of censure options are such that we now need to reform,

(15:41):
sharpen and bring standing orders into a world where it
is apparent a host of members no longer fear the consequences.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
David seen Will stood up to agree with that. We're
going to talk to Barry Sober, who's down there. He
will bear us as usual back quarters to five, so
we'll have a chat to him about it. Then, like
we've got another alleged victim emerging in the Allan Jones case,
two more new charges. This takes the victims to nine.
We'll talk to Murriolds about that shortly.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in
your car on your drive home. Heather duple S Allen
drive with one New Zealand let's get connected.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
And youth talk as they'd be.

Speaker 4 (16:28):
Heaven More people went to the Coldplay coms that every night.
Well that's a fair point, isn't it? As well? On
that I'm going to run you through what happened. David
Seymour did go out and talk to the Hikoy. It
didn't go and it was pretty much happened exactly what
he thought was going to happen, which is that he
didn't get to talk. So I'll run you through that,
explain to you what happened there. And Willie J. Mile
mate from Labor I wrote a column on Sunday, which
I do every Sunday part of the job, and apparently

(16:51):
it got rits really got under Willie J's skin. So
he's written a piece back to me treaty principles. Bill
Labour hasn't misread the He care Heather, Oh Hecoy. It's
you who has headed to Blissy Allen. He named me
in the headline. I'm stoked anyway, I'll tell you about that.
We'll get to it before five o'clock. Hopefully I'll have
time just really quickly on food Stuff because we're gonna

(17:12):
have to deal with this later on in the program.
Food Stuffs is going to appeal the Commerce Commission decision
to decline the merger because remember, food Stuff's and North
Island and food Stuff South Island are completely different businesses
and they want to get together and make one big
food Stuffs, and they've gone to both of their boards,
both of the boards se yep, take it to court
because the decision they feel is wrong because it won't
reduce competition. But this is a long shot from them.

(17:34):
It is very very rare that court's overturn Commerce Commission hearings.
As far as I understand, none have been successfully appealed
in the last twenty years. To have a chat to
a competition lawyer about exactly why that is and whether
these guys are just pushing the proverbial uphill. He'll be
with us after five. It's twenty three away from five.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
It's the world wires on newstalks.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
They'd be so yeah, they were saying. More charges have
been laid against Alan Jones. He's now facing twenty six
charges for a defenses against nine victims, including a high
profile Olympic athlete. The Daily Telegraph's crime editor says the
victims have been maybe have been afraid to come forward
before Jones retired from broadcasting.

Speaker 8 (18:11):
None of this has come out now until after he
was off air and he no longer has that power.
Maybe that empowered them that no longer did they feel
that he was going to be able to use his influence.
It had weighed dramatically. Let's face it, more with Ozzy.

Speaker 4 (18:26):
Correspondent murrayolds shortly now Russia has threatened to respond if
Ukraine fires American made long range missiles at Russian territory.
Joe Biden has reportedly given the green light to Ukraine
to launch those long range strikes against Russia, and BBC's
Moscow correspondent says that the President of Balorussia has hinted
at how Russia may respond to this.

Speaker 9 (18:46):
He said, be very careful with this question of long
range missiles. He said, what would happen if if the
hootis came along to that? In the pouta he said,
and asked for missiles missile systems that could be use
to target as aircraft carries.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
And finally, a football coach in England is arranging an
exorcism for the team's training ground to try to improve
their performance. Swindon Town has yet to win a game
since Ian Holloway took over as the manager. And here's
what he had to say to the BBC about that.

Speaker 10 (19:17):
The training ground area. People are telling me it's haunted. Honestly,
I'm not joking my wife, what says Blooked on YouTube
cus prosite and he goes it was built on a graveyard. Well,
I think our training ground is very close to an
ancient burial site. So I'm going to get my wives
to come up and say sorry to all these people,

(19:37):
and hopefully we'll have a bit more love.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
It always helps when the wife says sorry. Actually changes
a lot of things in football. There is actually a
track record of this kind of thing working. There's a
manager at Birmingham City once who allegedly urinated an awful
corners of their stadium in order to break a curse,
and the team went on to win seven of the
next ten games.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
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Speaker 4 (20:01):
Murray old Assie corresponds with us, hey nus, Good afternoon,
Heather Muss. So these two new charges against Alan Jones
and the ninth victim. Is the suggestion here that the
ninth victim has come forward because of the publicity yesterday.

Speaker 11 (20:14):
No, it's pretty clear from reading the charge sheet that
the matters that were brought today or brought into the
public gaze today involving a ninth alleged victim, they were
matters that were included in the charge sheet yesterday, but
they couldn't be ventilated because of some legal hiccup that
was overcome today and so now Jones facing a total

(20:38):
of twenty six charges. And you know, I mean it's
it's not that and these are not minor matters. I
mean aggravated indecent assault. These charged with now one, two, three,
thirteen charges of aggravated indecent assault. Now apparently each charge
of aggravated indectionan assault carries a possis penalty of seventy

(21:00):
years jail, So it's pretty serious stuff. Alan Jones in
court next week. He was guarded bail of course, yesterday,
ordered to surrenderous passports, stay away from places of exit
from Australia, not contact any of the alleged victims. He's
got plenty of support. Today James Packers come out and says, well,
Ellen Jones is a friend. He's entitled her the presumption

(21:24):
of innocence. Peter Credlin, you might know her from Sky News.
She's a bomb chucker on Sky News once upon a time.
Tony Abbott, his ex chief of staff. She said, completely
out of character for the man I've known for twenty years.
And by the way, out of the media know the
police were going to raid his home. Well, that's really
standard procedure, Peter, if you if you haven't caught up

(21:46):
with that. And Tina mccrean, she is a fruitcake, an
ex Liberal Party vice president who apparently was at Mara
Lago for the Trump victory party. Anyway, she used, allegedly
a used, according to The Sydney Morning Hero, encrypted social
media chat room to say the whole charges against Jones
absolute bs a disgraceful you know exactly. I mean, what

(22:10):
they're doing to Allen Jones is disgraceful. She was messaging
some other guy in the Liberal Party. So he's not
without friends still. But mister Jones eighty three years old,
very frail, and you can only imagine, you know exactly
what it's doing to him to say, afternoon, with that
court case penning in a month.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Listen mass how people feeling about Bunnings being busted using
the facial recognition and breaching the privacy of customers.

Speaker 11 (22:34):
Look, it's a little bit new. I mean, this story
only broke today and I mean nobody to be fair,
this has been the subject of a two year investigation,
but it's fair to say it hasn't been you know,
high profile over here.

Speaker 12 (22:47):
I mean, I wasn't even aware that.

Speaker 11 (22:50):
The Bunnings, you know, the use of this stuff was
being investigated by the Privacy commissioner. But the commissioner says,
hang on a second, you're not allowed to repeat this behavior.
Everything you've found and collected must be destroyed. The Bunnings
had interfered quote with the privacy of hundreds of thousands
of customers by using this facial recognition technology without gaining

(23:13):
proper consent. Well, you know today's result, as I said,
today's announcement the result of two years of investigation the Bunnings.
You know, we're still waiting for them to come forward
and say, well, we did it because of this reason.
I've not heard that this afternoon. Maybe it's around. Certainly
the evening wash up of the news of the day

(23:34):
will contain this story. It's just a big yarn. And
if you're doing this without permission, you're not allowed to
interesting stuff.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
MSS thank you appreciate it, Murriol's Ossie correspondent. Okay, So
to the Hquey and Barrysope is going to be with
us shortly to talk us through it. To the Hickoy,
David Seymour did go out he'd be numbing an ayeing
over where he was going to go out and humming
and hung and where he was going to go up
meet the Hikoy. And then he obviously decided he was
going to and when he walked out, Rawi Ytz was
addressing the coy and said, actually, I told David Seamore

(24:02):
not to come out. Bumped into them on the street yesterday,
said Nat, don't come. And anyway David had come. And
then basically the crowd shouted at David sea one until
he went back inside.

Speaker 13 (24:13):
We got a.

Speaker 14 (24:13):
Message to this garment, tell the well well.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Come and then Rawite he pulled his see you next
Tuesday stunt. Again we say to.

Speaker 14 (24:30):
David cebo I, we'll see you next Tuesday. When I
sat down there, it was midday. So my sims to
you Tuesday.

Speaker 10 (24:44):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Barry Soper next sixteen away.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
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Speaker 4 (24:50):
Certainty Barry Soper, Senior political correspondence with US. Now, hey Barry,
good afternoon. So the Hikoy has everybody dispersed peacefully and
it's just grounds back to normal.

Speaker 12 (25:00):
Well, I were quite shrewd, really because Waitangi Park they've
all gone to now, so there was another venue for
them to go to, and Parliament essentially has been cleared
of the protesters and that's a good thing. Although I've
got to say I thought the protest has given protests
here in the past. They were pretty well behaved. I

(25:22):
had to meander my way through the crowd to get
into the building, and you know, they were very polite.
When I was got slapt in the face a bit
by the Maori flags and the Wellington wind but that
was about as bad as it got. Interestingly, inside the house,
the speaker and I think it was the right thing
to do. He cleared the public galleries. He wouldn't allow

(25:44):
anybody to come in and witness what was going on
on the debating floor, and that's a good thing considering
what happened last week to that end. Here the three
Malori MPs, they've been complained about no surprizes. Guessing who
they are. It's Whitt of course, Packer and the young

(26:05):
twenty two year old who ripped up the treaty bill.
It was interesting that mightp Clark. She gave an interview
today that I was reading, and she said that she
wasn't the one that was meant to rip up the bill.
But I've been planning this protest for the past year,
which I found rather interesting. But the Standing Orders Committee
and this has a bit in house, but they will

(26:26):
look at the rules surrounding the behavior in Parliament.

Speaker 15 (26:30):
Now.

Speaker 12 (26:31):
The difficulty is what can you do with people who
breach the current rule? Slap them on a wrist with
a wet bus ticket. That's about all they can do.
But they would like to be able to do more.
But it's difficult, isn't it.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Yes, it is, And I mean, so what is it
that they suggested because at the moment, Hannah RAFSI Mightpy
Clark is being docked what twenty four hours worth of
pay and suspended for twenty four hours? What else can
you do?

Speaker 12 (26:56):
Well, not a hell of a lot, because you know,
when you've got a democracy, you know you've got to
allow people to speak, but not behave in the way
they did. But how do you prevent that? And that's
the difficulty. Shane Jones, he said he would like to
see a deterrent factor and I think we'd all like
to see that because I've never seen anything like I

(27:17):
saw last week in Parliament. But how do you deter them.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
It's not that easy.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
No, not at all. Okay, now the public are going
to have a say on the bill yet.

Speaker 12 (27:27):
Yeah, well now, of course the bill goes to the
Justice Select Committee, and that was in fact open today,
so public submissions for the next six months will be
heard now. David Seymour, he said that's a great thing.
Have I listened to him in the House this afternoon?

Speaker 16 (27:46):
The Justice Select Committee is now seeking public submissions from
all New Zealanders on their views on the bill. This
is the first time in our history, mister Speaker, that
all New Zealanders have been offered an equal chance to
have to say on what our constitutional future means under
the Treaty of White Tonguey. And I'd encourage people to

(28:06):
get along to the Justice Committee website and have their
voice heard.

Speaker 12 (28:10):
So I might not have gone as referendum, Heather, but
at least the public, if they want to, can now
have a say. And that's hope. It's a bit orderly
considering what we've seen in the past.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Marry tell me something. Read the he called today it
felt like weirdly and it's weird to say this because
thirty five thousand people turning up at the grounds of
Parliament is actually a pretty successful thing. But it felt
weirdly like a fizzer regardless, and that I think is
because thirty five thousand people had turned up for the
Dunedin protest over the hospital, right, and if you can
draw thirty five thousand people from the bottom of the country,

(28:42):
it kind of it makes you wonder why you can't
draw a bigger crowd from across the country for an
issue as contentious as this, right, Yeah, with all of
this media attention. But it's also I suppose because the
Huka was the main event that happened last Thursday. But
what was your feeling, I mean, has it been received
in Parliament?

Speaker 12 (28:57):
Well, you've got to remember that this was a political protest.
It was organized by the Maldi party, so you know,
to get that number along was not a bad effort.
But around Parliament it was interesting sitting in the gallery
as I did this afternoon watching question time. It was
a quiet affair because, as I said earlier, the galleries

(29:17):
were empty.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah, and so it was a.

Speaker 12 (29:20):
Very orderly parliament this afternoon, and you know, I thought
that's exactly what should have happened. That you had the
separation out the front to the parliament inside the debating Chairman,
it's a pity that you couldn't have seen that orderly
conduct last week, Verry.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Thanks very much, Bary So for senior political corresponding. It
feels like the wind's been kind of knocked out of it. Eight.
I'm nine away from five putting the.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
Tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 17 (29:47):
Perhaps we can argue that the crime wave and sense
of hopelessness weed and endured these past several years might
have finally come to a need police Minister Mirke Mitchell
as well as what are the areas that you are
still concerned.

Speaker 18 (29:58):
About, basically the same things that we came in government.
It's the gangs, the fact that their numbers have grown,
the fact that they're a lot more violent, the carrying fiums,
are willing to use them, and just the general misery
at harm that are inflicting on the communities that they're in.

Speaker 17 (30:09):
The ram raid issue which plagued just literally daily for
months on there, and that seems to be under control.

Speaker 12 (30:15):
Or am I wrong?

Speaker 11 (30:16):
No?

Speaker 18 (30:16):
No, that's you're right. And look the reality of is
US crimes they're going to go away completely. As long
as humans have been around, there's bad people that do
bad things.

Speaker 17 (30:23):
Back tomorrow at six am the Make Asking Breakfast with
the Rain drove of the Laugh News talk Z.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Be Hey five away from five. I don't know if
you remember, but in July we talked to a company
called Dawn Aerospace who'd just been given permission to fly
a pilotless rocket that they wanted to They thought that
they could break the sound barrier with it, and they
actually have. So they're going to be on the show
with us quarter past five to talk us through that.
Funnily enough, here the millions of people around the world
support the Hucker in Parliament. Jerry just doesn't want his

(30:50):
party to look weak for getting us into this mess
in the first place by not shutting the bill down
straight away. Sit down, Jerry, it's a bit late now.
The horse is truly well and truly bolted. That's from Renee. Okay,
here go Willie j Willy Jackson. By the way, who's
it is it? The Herald? The Herald has upgraded the
crowd number to fifty five thousand because the PSA, the

(31:11):
Public Service Association, who have absolutely no skin in the
game because they did not help organize the organizer the
he Coy. Nudge nudge, they say it's fifty five thousand.
Willie j has gone on the social medias he reckons
it's fifty thousand, but I think it's seventy. What do
you think, I mean, look at those no eighty eighty
eighty thousand, don't you think of a Look at that

(31:32):
crowd's size. I reckon it's yeah, that's more like it.
G's why why are they're underselling us like this? Right,
Willie Jackson Treaty Principles Bill. Labour hasn't misread the he Coy.
It's you who has, headed Duplissy Allen in The Herald.
In her latest column, News Talk Said B host Heather
Duplissy Allen claims Labor has misread the room by supporting
the he Coy because, according to her, Labour has lost

(31:54):
the middle ground because of the angry scenes inside and
outside of Parliament last week. What a load of nonsence.
It's not just a Marty Party protest. Everyone from Labor,
the Greens, the Unions and every demographic are represented. Even
National supporters who don't like this bill have come out
to denounce it. What if Welle it was organized by

(32:14):
He's just embarrassed it was organized by the Marty Party,
wasn't it? Because Edu Kappakinghi is a former Marty Party candidate,
it's hard to tell whether he still is on the
payroll of the Marty Party or has taken some time
off or was on the payroll. But he was on
the payroll of the Martyr Party and his mum's Marty
Party MP and the buses there. So whatever. Willie's just
embarrassed that he's having to basically follow, like jump on

(32:36):
the coattails of the Marti. Marty Party is doing everything.
Marti Party starts the hucker and then the lad guys
are like, oh, join the hacker quickly. Oh what do
a hucker do? Yeah? No, they're beating you. Al Teer
and Parliament have changed considerably. Middle New Zealand is no
longer a conservative right wing person who has a resentment
against Marty and immigrants. Now, that's not what Middle New

(32:57):
Zealand is about. Do you want me to tell you
what Middle New Zealand's about. Middle New Zealand is not
a racist. Middle New Zealand has got a cost of
living crisis going on. Middle New Zealand is trying to
get to work and pay the mortgage and they're getting
disrupted and they're seeing gang patches out there and there
the victims of crime and they don't like it and
they're scared they see the gang members there. They had
the people coming across the Harbor bridge. That's Middle New Zealand.

(33:17):
Middle New Zealand does have time. They can't take time
off to go on. He he quar becus' got to pay
the bills, so whatever Willie David Carter with us next
News Talks at Beat, the.

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,
get the answers, by the facts and give the analysis.
Heather due to Celand Drive with One New Zealand Let's
get connected and youth talk as they'd.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Be right good afternoon. So there are calls now for
Parliament to lift the punishment for MPs who pull stunts
like last week's hucker. Both Shane Jones and David see
Will have asked the Speaker, Jerry Brownly to consider this.

Speaker 16 (33:54):
I think some of the changes, particularly around the use
of social media, have changed the incentives for people's behavior
around the rules of Parliament.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
Now David Carter is a former Speaker and is with us. Now,
Hey David, hi, Hi, Heather, would you agree with him
that what has happened now is you can get so
much reward on social media for pulling a stunt like
that that it makes it worthwhile.

Speaker 13 (34:16):
I think that's probably the case, And Parliament has the
ability to amend rules. In fact that you're consider amending
the rules, but it's a process that should be taken carefully.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Carefully, yes, because democracy is important, right, So how far
can you push the punishment?

Speaker 13 (34:31):
Well, the Parliament is the master of its own destiny,
so it has every right to change the rules and
make them quite severe. I wouldn't advocate doing it immediately
in response to the incident last week. What I would
suggest is that the Speaker give it some thought and
then perhaps give guidance to the Standing Orders Committee, which
it's every three years. That's a committee that's made up

(34:53):
of very senior members of Parliament, so opposition and government,
and I remember sharing that as the Speaker. What's very
clear as you chair those meetings is that all politicians
realize that they may well be an opposition at some stage,
so they make rules that actually make our parliament work.
So that'd be the opportunity the Standing Orders Review, that'd

(35:14):
be the opportunity to reconsider the penalties and whether they're appropriate.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
So what is the most serious penalty that can be
copped at the moment for something like that, and what
would you move it to.

Speaker 13 (35:24):
Well, the most serious penalty is to name a member
of Parliament, as was done the other day. What happens
then is the par the Speaker moves to name a
particular member of Parliament, Parliament votes on that, so in effect,
the peers are judging the behavior of that person. If
you are named for the first time, you are suspended

(35:45):
for twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
If you are.

Speaker 13 (35:48):
Named again through that parliament a second time, you're suspended
for seven days, and if you're named for a third time,
you're suspended for twenty eight days. Now not only is
your pay doc but you lose the right to sit
on a committee, you lose the right to vote in
Parliament over that period of time. So if you've ever

(36:09):
got a very tight parliament and a government member was
to be named, that could make it very difficult for
the then government to pass legislation. It's quite a severe penalty.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Yeah, although if you're an opposition doesn't mean a lot,
does it.

Speaker 13 (36:22):
It doesn't mean as much except well, this particular member
who's been named seems to see it as a badge
of honor. I don't think it's a badge of honor.
Not a lot of people get named through their parliamentary career.
But if you're in opposition, yes, I accept it's less meaningful.
But as I said earlier, Parliament has the right to
change those rules and make the penalties more severe than naming.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
David, thank you so much for talking out through it,
David Carter. Former Speaker Heather Dudley allen So Foodstuffs has
announced it will appeal the Commus Commission's decision not to
allow its merger of its North and South Island operations.
Food Stuff's North Island CEO Chris quinn I was talking
to Kerry wood In this morning and said he doesn't
believe a merger will substantially less in competition, just like
the Commus Commission thinks it will.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
These are two regional cooperatives.

Speaker 19 (37:05):
We don't compete with each other in any way in
a retail market, and we don't compete to buy groceries
of supplieres now.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
Neil Anderson is a competition lawyer at amb Competition Lawyers
and with US Now hey.

Speaker 15 (37:16):
Neil, Hello.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
He It's rare, isn't it for a court to overturn
a Commus Commission decision like this one, isn't it?

Speaker 20 (37:24):
It is rare, But it's actually rare for it to
come in front of a court in the first place. Really,
not a whole lot of declines by the Commerce Commission
are appealed for practical reasons more than anything else.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Why do courts so rarely overturn them?

Speaker 20 (37:42):
Well, I think it's partly what I just said, which
is there are very few instances of appeals actually been taken.
I think it's primarily that. So, you know, the commercial
parties by the time they've been through a clearance process,
you know, and then are faced with an appeal process
which may push them out a fair six months. It's
quite unusual for a deal to be able to survive that. Normally,

(38:02):
if you get declined, that's the commercial parties walk away.
So most declines of the Comments Commission aren't actually tested
in the courts at all.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
So that would suggest that that that food stuffs believes
it has a strong case, right, because this is going
to cost them a lot of money and a lot
of time taking this to court, isn't it.

Speaker 20 (38:20):
Yeah, it might be, but it may also just reflect
that they're not on a burning platform with their transactions.
So it's probably one that can be done at any time,
and you know they can wait. You know, there's there's
not another buyer and the wings or you know that
this is their only deal they have in front of them,
and you know they probably have the time to work
through to a conclusion for a deal that they obviously

(38:42):
think is their leable. So they're probably in a rare
position commercially to actually pursue their illegal rights.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
Yeah, Neil, thank you very much, really appreciate your time.
It's Neil Anderson, competition lawyer at amb Competition Lawyers. Heather
do for see Ellen, whether you sound very much like
someone who is bitter and because someone you don't like
has thrown a terrific party and you've not been included.
This is the heat court today, right, Just remind you
I did say it was very successful and it was

(39:10):
just kind of got eclips, didn't it by the hucker
and some other things anyway, we'll come back to the
punishment thing, and just to tack, I've got some bad news. Unfortunately,
if you care about kids vaping, this is not great.
Our numbers keep on rising on this. We do this
thing annually called the New Zealand Health Survey and attracks
the number of smokers you've got and the number of
vapors in the country, and it shows that we are

(39:31):
just every year the number of people are vaping every
single day is going up. So it has gone up
from nine point seven percent to eleven percent. We now
have an estimated four hundred and eighty thousand people in
the country every single day sucking on the end of
a us B stick to give them a bit of
a a nicotine kick. About a decade ago, and this

(39:52):
is where it's really alarming, right, that four hundred and
eighty thousand today. A decade ago was only thirty three
thousand people. Now it's nearly five hundred thousand. Half a million.
Kids are the worst. The age groups that are climbing
the fastest are eighteen to twenty four, so that's that
kind of like just starting work, university age, and fifteen
to seventeen, so it's that the last few years of school,

(40:13):
those kids are hitting the vapes hard and fast. By contrast,
and this is where I'm disappointed about that about things,
is that we hardly pay any attention. Like it's we
really don't go hard on the vaping to try to
stop it. And it's just going up and up and
up and up, and we don't know what the health
effects are, so we ought to be actually cracking down
on that. Meanwhile, what have we been talking about ad

(40:34):
nauseum for the last few weeks? Oh, smoking policy, tax
banks of tobacco companies. Well, the smoking rate is sitting
at six point nine percent, hardly moved. It's just it's flatlining.
It's doing nothing. Give up on it. Worry about the vapors.
They are the ones we should be worried about.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (40:48):
Kids? Fourteen past five? Hey, picture this, Okay, there's a
ute driving down the motorway. It's got a clothes dryer
strapped down in the tray and the dryer is plugged
into a socket in the side of the ute. Now
dryer is on and it's actually drying a load of
washing while it's like just cruising on the newmarket flyerver
as you do. This is not a dream. This is
not an imagination. Didn't happen in a movie. This actually

(41:10):
happened in Auckland. It's what the GM of BYD did
the other day showing off the BYD Shark six and
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This is New Zealand's first super hybrid ute. It is fast,
four hundred and thirty how horsepower to be exact, it's luxurious,
it's green and it is loaded with tech. The Shark
six is the ut I've been telling you about that's

(41:31):
got all the other ute makers shaking in their boots.
There are just ninety of these utes left at the
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(41:53):
all the other stuff you might like. So check it
out online at BYD Auto dot co dot Nz.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Heall duper c allen in past five.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
Oh, they're going to close the Desert Road, aren't they
for two? Is it two months? Two months? Next year?
That's going to rip some mondies. Isn't it? For maintenance?
Everything's getting closed down. So anyway, we'll talk about that later.
I'll give you get you all the details. Now move
aside rocket Lab because New Zealand's next next big space
company might actually be a company called Dawn Aero Space.

(42:22):
You might remember these guys. We spoke to them a
few months ago when they were hoping to get permission
to fly at supersonic speeds. Well they got the permission
and they have flown at the supersonic speeds and this
makes them the first civil aircraft to break the sound
barrier since the Concord. Chief executive Stefan Powell is with us. Now, hey, Stephan, Hey,
how's it going good? Thank you? Did you hear the boom?

Speaker 21 (42:43):
No, you don't actually hear the boom because it's unlike
a like the concord, which would break the sound verer
while going like dead horizontal. We do it going vertical.
We're going straight up, so that boom goes straight up
to space so you don't actually hear it on the ground.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Oh that's a bummer, isn't it. But I means I
suppose it doesn't affect the neighbors, and you know how
neighbors are in this country. So that's good. Okay. So
now that you've done it and you've got up to
I think it was twenty five k's, which is the
limit of what you can do, what do you do now?

Speaker 21 (43:14):
Well, I mean, this really proves to all of our
key stakeholders, our customers, our investors, and critically CIA that
we can do this, and we can do it reliably,
we can do it safely. We're not we're talking about
the vehicle dynamics, you know, going through transonic that all works.
So that sets the stage for us to be able
to extend that certification ultimately up to above space, so

(43:36):
that this can be the first vehicle to fly to
space multiple times a day.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
And when are you planning to be flying multiple times
a day?

Speaker 21 (43:44):
You're not talking to publicly about timeframes because it's always
hard to predict exactly. But we'll be building the next
generation vehicle, which will look identical, but it's much more
optimal in performance, but more fuel on board higher thrust
engine that all to get to yeah space twice in
a day. We'll we building that vehicle next year.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Brilliant stuff. And the commercial clients are they paying a lot.

Speaker 21 (44:10):
Well, they're certainly paying. They're certainly very interested in being
able to use this vehicle for all kinds of things
like microgravity experiments, testing out satellite technology, are doing atmospheric experimentation.
We're kind of just discovering what can you actually do
with this new class of ultra high performance aircraft. You know,
it's something that humanity has never really been able to

(44:31):
do reliably, is access you know, above the atmosphere but
where satellites fly. So it's really really unique capability with
lots of commercial applications.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Yeah, good stuff, hey mate, best of luck with that
and thanks for talking to us about it. Steffan Powell
of doorn Aero Space. Here, the closing the desert road
for two to three months will end up being four
to five months, no doubt. Well, it is MZTA and
it is New Zealand, and it is construction. Although that
trifector of things generally doesn't go well. And we're going
to speak to Roger Brady from NZTA. Actually he'll be

(45:03):
with us in about fifteen minutes, so we'll ask him
if that's going to happen. Five to twenty one.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
Heather Duplicy Allen cutting through the noise to get the facts.
It's Heather Duplicy Allen drive with One New Zealand. Let's
get connected and news talk as that'd.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
Be five twenty four listen on the subject of increasing
the punishment on the MP so that they don't pull
stunts like last week's hukker. I think it's fair enough
to go away and have a look at the rules
and see if we can modernize them, because yep, social
media has absolutely changed the game and it's made stunts
like that more appealing. But I'll be honest with you.
I can tell you right now it's not going to
work because I don't know how far you can push

(45:41):
the punishment to make it harsh enough. So it's not
you know, so it makes the stunt not worthwhile without
taking the punishment too far. Now, I'm just going to
give you some context here. I mean, we talked about
this yesterday. That Hucker stunt has proved to be incredibly
worthwhile for the Mardi Party. It's gone viral around the world. Right,
it has been watched at last get this seven hundred

(46:02):
million times and that is just on social media. A
friend I heard from today got in touch with me,
said she'd heard from her friend in Brazil asking what
it was about. A former colleague in Canada says her
friends in the town that she's working at the moment
are all talking about it. There have been Hekoy, support
of Hikoy in London, support of Hecoy and New York.
It's been on Jimmy Kimmel, It's been on Fox News,

(46:25):
It's been on the newspapers like the Guardian and the
Telegraph and all of that stuff. It's on CNN today,
it's running there today. And the punishment for doing that
thing that got all of that worldwide attention that anybody
would kill for loss of twenty four hours pay suspended
for Parliament for one day, named by Parliament. Oh named

(46:47):
by Parliament. Oh stop press. The kind of money right
that you get docked is in like twenty four hours pay.
You could not buy the kind of attention that the
Marti Party got with the money that she's just been docked.
There is no punishment in social media age I think
that is going to stop these kinds of stunts without
that punishment going too far. And that's a real consideration here, right,
you cannot take it too far. You cannot kick an MP.

(47:09):
You cannot just say right, that's it, you lose your
seat in the house, off you go. You can't do
it forever, and you can't even do it for a
really long period of time because these MPs, whether you
like them or not, are elected democratically. They have got
to be there to do the job for the people
who elected them. So whether you like that job or not,
this is how it works. You cannot get rid of
them just because they do something naughty. You can dock

(47:30):
their pay to a point, like maybe a month, like
David Carter was saying, but you can't dock it for
too long because at some point it becomes unaffordable for
that person to be able to live, and then you're
effectively forcing them out of the job by removing pay
from them. And again, it is a job that they
were democratically elected to do, so you cannot do that
if you go too hard. As well, remember this, you

(47:50):
just make a social media marta out of them. So
I'm sorry you know my position is unchanged from what
it was last week. In the social media age, this
will not stop. This is what politics looks like right
now because the bigger the stunt, the more attention you get,
and the winner is basically whoever can offend the most
with whatever stunt they pull.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Heather Duplicy Ellen.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
Now, somebody said to me today, ah, well, I was
just a haka in parliament. Who really cares. It's not
like they punched some It's not like you know when
to Henade and Trevor got into the fight where we're
well hang in a tack. Okay, because this still is serious.
Somebody put this really well earlier this week, and I
hadn't heard it put like this, but I think it's
worth repeating. The reason that parliament is the original safe

(48:32):
space is what they said, and I thought that's exactly right.
Parliament is the original safe space where you can go
and you can say whatever you need to say and
you will not be hurt for it or punished for it.
The King is not going to come in and cut
your head off or send his knights and to kill you,
which like was legit a threat back in the day.
You can say whatever you need to say No, one's

(48:53):
going to jump up, run across the room, punch you
in the face. I'm not going to intimidate you. They're
not going to threaten you. That's why we have these rules.
That's why Julie and Jin' got in so much trouble
for shouting at somebody's face in Parliament because it's a
safe place where they're supposed to be able to do
their job without threat of intimidation. And that's what happened
last week. And actually, for the foundational stuff of democracy,

(49:13):
that's a big breach the rules. Actually, you've got to
take the stuff seriously. Headline's next.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
Hard Questions, Strong Opinion, Heather due for see Ellen Drive
with one New Zealand Let's get connected and news talk
as it'd be well.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
Yelling cold.

Speaker 9 (49:37):
Weather.

Speaker 4 (49:38):
Well, it's a lot a really interesting text that's just
coming actually about it. It's adjacent to the protest, the
he cooy and if you are like if you still
like Willie Jackson, although I don't think many people are
and still sort of like, No, I don't think this
was a Maori party organized. I think the strengthens the

(50:01):
case that it was a Marley party organized protest anyway,
we'll get to that stand by. Also been a bit
of a kerfuffle about kids who've been at the hea
coret because there's lots of kids in there, like lots
and lots of kids, and the Education Minister, Erica Stanford's
not happy about this, and she's unhappy because the kids
obviously at the hecoy means they're not at school and
some of those kids, if they've done the whole hecoy

(50:21):
for the last nine days or whatever, have actually missed
a fair bit of school now, and she said they
should be in school. And if they're not, if the
schools are the ones who are closing down and sending
them on the hecy, then they need to hack it.
And that's an education outside the classroom activity. They need
to ensure they have literacy and numeracy components to it. Well,
I don't know. Maybe they could send the kids out
and count the crowd. They will be helpful to us,
and that's a numerousy thing. Anyway, we'll have a chat

(50:43):
to the huddle who are standing by and be with
us shortly. It's twenty three away.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
From six Heather do for Sea Allen.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Now I've got bad news for you if you are
planning on driving State Highway One down the middle of
the North Island this summer. NZTA is closing the Desert
Road for two months from January sixth to late February.
Ween too rangy and wyouru the detour that that's the
part that will be close, and then the detour is
likely to add more than half an hour to the trip.
Roger Brady is from n ZTA.

Speaker 15 (51:09):
Hi Roger, Heather high good eating to you.

Speaker 4 (51:13):
Is there no way around this? You couldn't have done
it any other.

Speaker 15 (51:15):
Time, Heather, We couldn't have done any other time. Really,
it's tue the weather in that part of the country
that that's the only time of the year we can
actually fix that road.

Speaker 4 (51:25):
And do you have to fix the road like this
extensively because this is quite big, isn't it?

Speaker 15 (51:30):
Well, this is this is actually a step change in
the way that we're fixing the road. We're going to
do four years of work in essence in a couple
of months here, so instead of having long drawn out
ongoing inconvenience, Yes, it's going to be inconvenience, but we're
going to limit that inconvenience to two months and then
we're going to get out of there and have double
free molting on that stretch of road for years to come.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Well, when's the busiest time on that bit of road?

Speaker 15 (51:53):
Okay? There is generally it's busier before Christmas and then
the first week of the new year. So we've skipped
that period and we've got a very short window of
weather opportunity. But we have pushed it back as far
as we can into January to start to ensure we
can finish the scope for working time.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Okay, And I've already had texts to Roger saying, if
you're saying it's going to be two months, it's going
to be five what are the chances of a blowout?

Speaker 15 (52:18):
Well, look, we've been working on this project north of
toker Row, and also we've had our targets so far
in terms of the program, So I'm confident two months
is two months and weather permitting a course, if we
I'm fortunate enough to have a cyclone. Perhaps not that
we're confident have it.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Okay, And I know that I think it's the official
the official time that it adds to the journey. The
detour is twenty nine minutes, but a truck. You said
earlier it would it would add about an hour. Is
that more realistic?

Speaker 15 (52:47):
Well, I think there's so many road conditions it's hard
to say definitively. Look, I would say if you work
on forty forty five minutes, I think that will be
more than enough time. That's some personal opinion, but to.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
Okay, now, Roger, for all of the pain that you're
putting us through, necessary pain. When we drive that road again,
are we going to just go wow, this is just
so great. Are we going to notice the difference.

Speaker 15 (53:10):
You're definitely going to notice the difference here. You're going
to notice we've fixed the worst. The worst parts of
the road will be fixed. Yeah, and well I'm really
excited about opening it and we can actually show proof
of concept to people.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Good stuff. Hey, Roger, thanks very much for talking us through,
and appreciate it. Roger Brady, who's with MZTA.

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Speaker 4 (53:33):
This evening, Allie Jones, Red pr and Tim Wilson of
the Maximums. Didu'e hire you two?

Speaker 15 (53:37):
Hi?

Speaker 22 (53:38):
Bo?

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Hi?

Speaker 4 (53:38):
There are you planning the old Big summer trip down
State Highway one. Then Tim.

Speaker 22 (53:45):
Not after that conversation. Yeah, you know what I want
to know. It's like, why four years, four years worth
of work? Who did it get to four years? Why
did they wait?

Speaker 23 (53:54):
What's the explanation?

Speaker 4 (53:55):
It's four years of potholes that you can just instead
of instead of having I thought it was just future proving,
instead of having four years worth of potholes, you fix
it now and then you don't have them for four years.

Speaker 19 (54:08):
No, I took it the other way around. I'm taking
it the way that Tim's saying. I think it's deferring maintenance. Tim,
that's what local government, central government does to save money. Well,
you know, in any one year, they defer maintenance.

Speaker 4 (54:19):
Okay, so it's pretty running the mill stuff. And even
if you did do the trip, Tem with four children,
what have you got? Have you got yourself a van
or something? Now? Tim, are you there? Tim? You've muted yourself. Jeez, Honestly,
what a dad sick of the sound of his own voice? Well,
isn't he anyway?

Speaker 12 (54:37):
Where we go?

Speaker 23 (54:38):
And that must have been you never give a phone
to a child during a huddle.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Okay, you blame the children. Yeah, that's really cool of you.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
What a guy.

Speaker 23 (54:48):
That's why, that's why you have four You've got four
excuses running.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
And also it took you such a long time to
take the phone away from your face and unmuted. Did
you forget where the mute button was?

Speaker 23 (54:57):
I had to climb a tree first, all right?

Speaker 4 (54:59):
Sa okay? Now listen Ali having a look at the
hekhoy on the metric of numbers and how peaceful it was.
That was a success, wasn't it. Absolutely it was a success.

Speaker 19 (55:11):
I've heard varying figures thirty five, forty five to fifty
five thousand, why stop there? Yeah, that's right. It will
be one hundred thousand by six o'clock, I tell you.
But I think that's significant. I think the numbers none
of the nonsense that we've seen before, and I think
that's made a huge difference.

Speaker 4 (55:26):
What's not to like about this?

Speaker 19 (55:27):
This was people exercising their democratic right, being passionate about
their heritage, standing up for something that's really important to them,
that they believe in. And it was all done. I
haven't heard any arrest numbers or anything like that, but
it seems to have been done very peacefully.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
And yet because of that timid feels like a fizzer.

Speaker 23 (55:44):
Yeah, I heard you saying that. I think you've got
You're onto something there.

Speaker 22 (55:48):
In terms of the momentum that was established by the
Harker in Parliament, that's seven hundred million views and this
I want to see how it plays out during that
Select Committee hearing. So it's one thing to hold an
amazing event, and I've got to say civility was the
winner at the end of the day. You compare it
that much with say Minneapolis downtown Minneapolis in twenty twenty

(56:09):
with Black Lives Matter. I love how we transact and
negotiate racial issues. I think we're Actually we should pat
ourselves on the back. It's just how do you keep
the momentum going?

Speaker 4 (56:18):
What do you like about the way that we transact
and discuss racial.

Speaker 23 (56:21):
Issues in our country?

Speaker 22 (56:24):
It's an argument within the family, so because the high
rates of intermarriage between Mary and non Mary. But in
the United States it's a fight between two families and
it's bitter.

Speaker 4 (56:33):
But are you're not worried that it's going to get
because this is the thing that we keep hearing, is
that this is going to get really ugly before it's over.

Speaker 22 (56:42):
Yeah, that does consern me, and particularly when you look
at you've got two minor parties who have seen a
big and essentially they're vying for the constituency of the
major parties. I'd say the two losers here are Labor
and National and they have been galvanized, galvanized and mobilized.
So yeah, we'll probably see more of this makes an effect.
What made the effect was the hark of the RW

(57:02):
breaking stuff. I wonder how much effect this will have.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
What do you make, Allie, of David Seymour going out
and then getting booed back in.

Speaker 19 (57:12):
The highly predictable I mean, what would you expect people
going to come up and give him a hug? I
don't think that was going to happen, and it didn't,
and he deserved it to be Frank.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Why did he Well, because oh.

Speaker 19 (57:25):
No, actually that's wrong. I shouldn't have said that. I
don't I shouldn't have said that.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
He stood, you are, You're going down the path? That
will one warning about it gets ration right.

Speaker 19 (57:37):
It is irrational and it's really emotional because I just
find him so bloody annoying to be Frank, and so
I take that back. He came out, he stood up
and he spoke and.

Speaker 4 (57:47):
He should get credit for that.

Speaker 19 (57:48):
However, you know it was going to be hostile crowd.

Speaker 23 (57:51):
He was never going to be well received, imour.

Speaker 22 (57:54):
David Seymour does. He does like a disagreeable crowd, and
so there is there is some of that there. Let's say,
and I guess to that end, I you know, you
look going back to the Harker as well, there's a
performative aspect and we'll probably get to the behavior in
the house and that's what we've got to beware of.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Yeah, okay, let's get to the behavior in the house.
We'll take a break and come back and do that.

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Speaker 4 (58:21):
Back of the Huddle, Tim Wilson and Alie Jones, Right, Tim,
you were raising the behavior in Parliament and possibly increasing
the punishment to stop these kinds of social media stunts again,
can you.

Speaker 22 (58:30):
Though, Yeah, look to your and your point is you
can't stop MP's being in there. But there's been recently
this fascinating innovation that prevents students at school from being distracted,
being lonely and performative. It's called a phone ban. Ban
the phones. They can't take the phones into the house.
You have to rely on Parliamentary TV. That's like CCTV.

(58:52):
There's no drama there. Don't you worry about that. Ban
the phones?

Speaker 4 (58:56):
But tim they shared they shared official So what they
shared was, as far as I could see, was official
video that had been taken by like the news media
or Parliamentary TV. So banning a phone is not going
to stop. It isn't as long as the video exists.
It's sharable.

Speaker 23 (59:13):
That's that's true.

Speaker 22 (59:14):
But I have heard from from some MPs that suddenly,
you know, you see a cluster of cameras over in
the public gallery and then you know something's up. So
I think maybe we need to control that stuff a
bit better.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
What do you reckon, Allie? Can you actually punish the
MPs ever sufficiently to stop them from pulling stunts like this?

Speaker 13 (59:30):
Not sufficiently?

Speaker 19 (59:31):
No, And I mean I see some of this kind
of behavior nowhere near like this, But I see some
of this at local government level as well. In fact,
I see it more in.

Speaker 4 (59:39):
The public gallery.

Speaker 19 (59:41):
But you know, applauding people when they speak and things
like that is really distracting when you're sitting and considering papers,
and it's really disrespectful. But I'm really interested that David
Seymour was calling this stuff out, you know. I mean,
do you remember badge Gate, You remember the badge that.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
Well yeah, yeah, yeah, where they were wearing badges. Yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah.

Speaker 19 (59:59):
I mean that was should be something that a four
or five year old would take joy in doing, so,
you know, if you and that was all done for
the coverage as well, the act badge and the taking
photographs and in the house, so you know, I think
this is a bit of people in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones.
But I did hear your piece earlier hither and I
completely agree with you. I actually don't have a problem

(01:00:20):
with the hakker in Parliament. I think that this shows.

Speaker 23 (01:00:25):
Passion.

Speaker 19 (01:00:26):
I think it shows someone represents the representing their constituency.
There was no violence, there was no swearing, there was
you know, I actually don't have a problem.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Okay, let me put this to you. Let me put
this to you. Hypothetical future situation. We have a party
that's elected to Parliament who are anti trans. We're debating
a trans bill, and a trans MP is up speaking
and one of the members of the Anti Trans party
comes and does a hucker right in front of the
trans person, you're going to be okay with that to

(01:00:59):
an intimidate them as you gotta flip it and you've
got to flip it around alley and you have to
look you have to look at it the other way around,
because everybody looks at David Seymour and they think, oh,
he's a tough guy, he can handle. Yeah, he can
handle because he's he's he looks like a white bloke,
even though Marty.

Speaker 19 (01:01:16):
But if you're having that argument, but if you flip
it around argument because you what you only let people
who have got really thick skin and can man.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
No, no, I don't think you understanding what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is if you're okay, if it's good
for the goose, if it's good for for that guy
you can handle, then you have to flip it around
and ask if it's a vulnerable person in a vulnerable
situation standing there, are you still okay with the same behavior.

Speaker 19 (01:01:39):
So is the person speaking in parliament and MP or not? Yes, okay,
Well my comment stands and you've got to have a
thick skin to get in there and talk about things. Now,
your example of a trans person I think is inflammatory,
but I know why you're doing it, and I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
I just think that they are amongst the most vulnerable
people in this in society.

Speaker 22 (01:01:59):
I do think time, and I've got to say I
do think many many MPs that I talk to. The
atmosphere often sounds corrosive, and I don't know if it
actually adds to our I guess our ability to bring
in vulnerable people because all you have is.

Speaker 23 (01:02:14):
A bunch of thick skin bullies juking it out.

Speaker 22 (01:02:17):
I agree in the contest of ideas, but how we
do it really matters. And if the guardrails protect the powerful,
then when the week become powerful, they'll also protect the week.

Speaker 19 (01:02:28):
Yes, it degrees, though, Tim it's degrees. I'm not suggesting
that you're going to have thick skin bullies in there
that take jaw out of you know, hurting and bullying
other people. But I'm also suggesting that I don't think
what source for the goose is the source of the gander.
What are we going to do next? Band the huker
and rugby Because it's too intimidating for the other team.

Speaker 23 (01:02:48):
Let's let's enforce.

Speaker 22 (01:02:49):
Let's enforce hugging a member of the opposition, so they
have to hug each other and they won't like it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
I don't know, Ali, I mean, you do understand we're
not banning the hacker from parliament. It already is. In
the way that it was used there was contrary to
the rules.

Speaker 19 (01:03:03):
Yeah, I know, but I think it's the same as.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Judy and gener going and shouting in somebody's face. Like
if you think it's okay to hucker and the floor
of Parliament, then then by extension, it's okay for Julian
to cross the floor and go yell at somebody, because
that's literally the same thing according to Parliament.

Speaker 23 (01:03:19):
Feel we're getting up on Ellie. I feel like we're
getting up. Also, it was.

Speaker 22 (01:03:27):
No I just also, it was not just some spontaneous outpouring.
It was absolutely stage managed and and it was it
was to shut someone down, and Parliament shouldn't be a
place where you shut people down.

Speaker 23 (01:03:39):
You should be able to conten.

Speaker 19 (01:03:41):
Let the voters decide next time. I still don't really
have a problem with it. No one was hurt. It's
showing passion and it's showing commitment to an issue. I
think it does show a degree of disrespect if you're
using the example of shouting and Jillian gender or Jullian
gender shouting in someone's face.

Speaker 4 (01:03:58):
But let the voters decide. All right, guys, listen. Thank you,
sorry Ali for ganging up on you. Thank you Tim
for calling us out on that. It's not how we
roll here. Allie Jones re jested us, what are we talking? No,
I'm just joking. Allie Jones read pr Tim Wilson, Maximum Institute,
seven away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
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Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Be here on behalf of the Wellington hospit industry. We
would like to nominate David Seymour as the Wellingtonian of
the Year because he is single handedly ensured that every
cheap and cheerful restaurant is busy and most hotels are
full tonight, and he is more successful for Wellington than
cold Play with he can't be more successful for Wellington

(01:04:47):
than cold playworth for Auckland one hundred and fifty thousand
people went to Gold Black, although to be fair, we
don't know how many of them were out of towners,
so but I suspect it might be more than thirty five.
We don't even know what the protest crowds when the
protest crowd could be eighty thou by the time six
o'clock rolls around, so we'll see. Anyway, take your point.
It's done quite well for you guys. Listen, I've been
getting the absolutely taking heat at work. I told you

(01:05:10):
at the start of the program. I put up a
Christmas tree today. Taking heat for putting up the Christmas
tree today. Now I'll win to bunangs. I don't even
spend that much money. By the way, they've got a bargain.
It's like pre garlanded with all the lights and stuff
for just one hundred bucks, and get the tree and
the lights for one hundred bucks and like minimum hassles.
You just got to hang the bullbulls, put the star
on as long as the two three year old doesn't

(01:05:31):
stand on the bullbles, which is a problem anyway. I'm
copping flak for it because apparently you're supposed to. The
German at work says that you wait till Christmas Eve.
But this is the Germans, right, you know, like you
don't want to have too much fun because you might explode.
So anyway, they put it up Christmas Eve and then
they keep the tree all the way through until January

(01:05:51):
the sixth, and then it's got to come down. I mean,
you've still got life in that pine tree. If you've
got a real one at January the sixth, that's an
epic waste of money. Also, I'm going to spend the
next probably three or four days trying to convince she's
got a toddler. I'm trying. I'm going to try to
convince her to not suck the life out of her
toddler's life and give her the tree early. That's why
you put the tree up, right, because the kids love

(01:06:11):
it and then you start getting them in the vibe. Anyway,
So Tod was not even going to remember it, Oh
my gosh, And please never have children, you're It's not
about whether they remember it or not. It's about making
the moment fun for them right there.

Speaker 24 (01:06:26):
The fair, I'm not playing the Christmas look.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
For the child to be it and go. I'm not
going to come and cuddle you all night because if
I do, you won't remember it because you're only one
who helped save me from the people that I work with. Please, hey,
we'll talk about rubbish fires. Next news talks they be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
We're a business inside the business hour, we're the the
duplessyl and my hr on news talks be.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
Even in coming up in the next hour, Brad Olsen's
going to talk through the job vacancies. Looks like things
might be bottoming out. That's some good news. There's a
little bit of surprise over how much Auckland authorities are
going to limit development in the city. I'm going to
get you across that and then end of Brady. Obviously
in the UK for US seven past six now there
are calls for urgent action on old batteries because the
number of battery fires at waste and recycling facilities has

(01:07:20):
gone through the roof this year. It's probably sparked they think,
by more and more lithium ion batteries from the likes
of old phones, vapes and so on being thrown in
the rubbish. Nick Quilty is the chief executive of Wastemans
and with us. Hey, Nick, hi here, how I am,
I'm well, thanks? How many more fires, are you saying.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Well, in Auckland alone, in the first quarter of this
year there were nine fires triggered by batteries, and there
were thirteen in the whole of last year, so you
can see that they're just increasingly increasing, quite rapidly.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
And do you think these are caused by like the
batteries and vapes rather than your Triple A's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
Look, they could be anything. They could be vapes, batteries
and vapes. They could be in your mobile phone, they
could be in laptops, they could be in iPads, they
could be in consoles, they could be from kids' toys.
Batteries that are just prolific, and we're just buying more
and more electronic goods. So it's just getting becoming a
bigger and bigger problem.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
So do you know which of the two is worse?
If you chuck your vapor in the rubbish, is that
as likely to spark a fire as if you chuck
your old Triple A battery lock.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
I don't think any of them are good. I'll tell
you what happens once they end up in you. If
someone puts them in their rubbish bin or their recycling bin,
that ends up at curbside. A truck then picks that up.
If it ends up in a rubbish truck, it's going
to be squashed, it's going to be compacted. It could
be punched, it could be shredded, it could be soaked
in liquids. Also happens in the recycling truck as well.

(01:08:45):
And then what happens is all of these batteries, well
some of them but can get very hot. And then
what happens is they ignite and they can cause fires.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Nick, I'm going to give myself away here. What a
what are you has to do with your battery lock?

Speaker 3 (01:09:02):
I'll tell you what you need to do. So Wasteman's
we're an industry body. We work with a Waste Resource
for covering contaminated land sectors. We have a map on
our website. We've got a working group that is working
on this and it shows you where you can take
your batteries. Most of the facilities are free of charge.
Some of them cost a little bit of money, but
not much. That's the best thing to do, but you

(01:09:24):
need to contact. Once you found which facility is closest
to you, you contact the facility and you just find
out what the process is, what you need.

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
To do, or you drop them off.

Speaker 6 (01:09:37):
I know, and look, this is a problem.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
I think what happens is people just take the easy
road and they go, oh, I don't want to drive anywhere.
I just want to just get rid of them. I
want them out of my house.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
Now you're telling me I've got to make a phone
call first, and then I've got to drive, and then
I may have to pay money, whereas I could just
go to the kitchen, open the bin and check it in.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
Well, you could, but you could cause a fire, cause
a fire. Could you could? Number one, you could hurt
someone who's collecting the rubbish and the ends up a
fire in their truck. You could hurt a member of
the public who happens to be near the recycling truck.
You could damage the infrastructure where the fire has taking place.
So you know that's not great.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
So how do we get around this issue?

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
We have a major obstacle admin obstacle there to get
rid of batteries. So how do you get around that?

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
So what we want, because there's no national direction for
battery disposal, So what we want is we want the
government to prioritize a mandatory product stewardship scheme for small batteries.
And when I say small batteries, I mean under five kilograms.
And then what would happen is the cost of disposing
that battery would be included in the price that you

(01:10:47):
would pay when you purchase a battery, and this very
small increase could be used for more infrastructure and public messaging,
and that public messaging would be consistent across all of
New Zealand because at the moment, because there's no national direction,
all the messaging is just different depending on what region
you go to, and people just get really confused. And

(01:11:09):
that's one of the reasons why people throw them in
their bins and put them out of Coopers Neck.

Speaker 4 (01:11:13):
I just got a text saying here the Bunnings takes them.
Everyone loves a trip to Bunnings, So yeah, take them, Yes, yes,
say that Bunnings takes.

Speaker 3 (01:11:21):
Will There's lots of others that take them as well,
might attend take them Phoenix Recycling. There's a whole lot
of I mean, for some people they might not have
a Bunnings it's close to them, especially in some of
those really small areas, but yes, Bunnings does take them,
and they take them free of charge.

Speaker 4 (01:11:36):
Okay, thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
Nick.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
There we go. That's the problem solved, Sunnings and might
attend that's Nick quality of Wasteman's the chief executive. Stop
throwing your batteries. Stop throwing them in the rubbish you
heard now Listen. There has been talk for quite a
while and so this is not altogether new, the idea
that Auclan Council cannot handle expanded developments right in parts

(01:11:58):
of the city because they just don't have the infrastructure
and they can't afford the infrastructure, whether it means laying
more pipes or laying laying more road or street lamps
or whatever. All of that stuff is expensive in Auckland.
Council's just really kind of not into it, and so
therefore we can't expand into brownfields and green fields and
stuff like that. But now we've got an idea of

(01:12:20):
really how limited it is, and just with water infrastructure,
water Care is put out a map of where they
can actually allow more development to be and where they can't.
And frankly it's surprising because there are huge sections of
the city in Auckland that just cannot handle any more building.
For example, on the Hibiscus coast. Anyone who doesn't have
a resource consent already is going to have to wait

(01:12:41):
another five or six years twenty thirty one before they
can get themselves a waste water connection. So that six
years without anything happening at all, Right, that's quite quite astounding,
quite a long period. So I'm going to talk to
a developer about it. Will bear us Just up to
half past six right now, it's thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
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Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
They'd be.

Speaker 12 (01:13:13):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:13:13):
It's coming up sixteen past six now. Job ads have
fallen for three months in a row. There is hope
that this might actually be the end of the thing.
We might be seeing a bottoming out here. And Brad
Awson is informetric principle economist. Hey, Brad, good evening, what
makes you think we're seeing light at the end of
the tunnel here?

Speaker 25 (01:13:30):
Well, I mean, things do seem like they might be
stabilizing a touch. Some of the fools are in the
last couple of months haven't been as huge as what
they were if you go back to earlier in twenty
twenty four, and so when you look at the latest
SEEK data, it does seem to suggest again maybe a
little bit of that bottoming out or stabilization. To be fair,
it's at very low levels. I mean, the number of

(01:13:52):
job ads out there in the market at the moment
the lowest since May twenty thirteen on my calculations, excluding
that big hit from the lockdown.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
So you know, it might be.

Speaker 25 (01:14:02):
Stabilizing, but it's stabilizing very very low.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Yeah, what do you make of the fact that there's
been a bounce up in Wellington?

Speaker 25 (01:14:10):
There are some odd figures looking through here, Heather, and
it's sort of you know, does make you wonder if
there are parts of the economy that are perhaps doing
better than we give them credit for. I mean, the
likes of that Wellington increase a little bit surprised and
giving a lot of the doom and gloom. The other
one that really surprised me was the fact that job
ads in government and defense have lifted for the last
two months. In fact, they are up fifteen percent month

(01:14:32):
on month in October, so PEPs things may maybe not
quite as bad. Also, I think probably highlighting that in
government there has been a lot of change, perhaps a
lot of people that have lost their jobs, and maybe
now government departments trying to rehire in a few areas
where they realize that they need a little bit more capacity.
Long story short, this is still not great news for
the economy. Job numbers are still down, job ads are

(01:14:54):
still down, and a lot of people are putting in
applications for what are fewer and fewer opportunities. But again
a little bit of that turning point starting to become
clearer in the numbers, which might be again reinforcing that
view of greener shoots next year.

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Now, apart from obviously government and defense, which are the
two places in Wellington that are hiring, what else is
I what other sector is are we talking about here?

Speaker 6 (01:15:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (01:15:16):
I mean in the latest month, so this is October data,
the biggest sort of gain was for banking and financial
services up eighteen percent month on month, and a few
more again changes around to the likes of design and architecture,
call centers, hospitality. So again maybe just some of those
areas that possibly got hit a bit harder at the
start that are now turning around the other side. When

(01:15:36):
we've looked at activity compared to say, a year ago.
Some of the areas that are leased hit are the
likes of banking, design, legal and farming the worst hit,
though again probably of no surprise. The likes of advertising
rolls down about fifty three percent year on year, consulting
in strategy down thirty seven percent, and admin rolls down

(01:15:57):
thirty five So business is still being a lot tighter
on how much much money they're willing to put out
in the economy. But again maybe signs that things aren't
continuing to get as much worse and perhaps than that
turning point starting to come around.

Speaker 4 (01:16:09):
Brad, it's good to talk to you, mate, Thank you
so much. It's Brad Olsen, principal economic economist at Informetrics.
I'm going to get to you to get this text
to you that I was telling you about, and just
to take out just very quickly. Here's an idea. Heather
makes supermarkets collection points. That is a fantastic idea because
basically I'm already getting text going now the rubbit, the
battery is going in the rubbish is far too hard

(01:16:29):
and really, like I'll be honest with you, it is
far too hard. Apart from going to Bunnings, which is
like mildly easy because you go there all the time.
It's actually miles too hard to be calling somebody then
driving there, then paying them in the whatever. So supermarkets
should be the collection points because it's the where do
we go every week? Every week you go to the supermarket.
Even if you have your supermarket stuff delivered to you,
you go to the supermarket, don't you, So then what

(01:16:53):
you wanted. And if you are a parent of toddlers,
you don't want the batteries lying around in the house
for too long, do you, because it's stayed and then
you've got to somehow five you've really got the batteries
up high where the kids can't get them. Now you
have to have another set of batteries up high, and
you have to remember which ones are the new ones
and which one of the od It's very complicated.

Speaker 12 (01:17:09):
So you just.

Speaker 4 (01:17:09):
Basically want to have them in the house for a
few days, take them to the supermark. So whoever came
up with that idea, would you also like to have
a job at Wasteman's because you're actually quite bright? Okay,
this text about what's going on with that that hequit?
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Speaker 1 (01:18:04):
Crunching the numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
It's Heather Duplicy Ellen with the Business Hour thanks to
my HR the HR solution for busy smys on news Talks.

Speaker 4 (01:18:15):
Okay, this text came in a little while ago and
we had to just check out that everything stacked up
with this text to make absolutely sure that we were
that what the information in that we were going to
give you was accurate. Right, so we have this is
a little bit of detail. It says about the Toyitu
Tetriti Hikoi, which is what that he coy is called.
The legal status says the text of Toyitu Tetriti is

(01:18:36):
a registered company. It was incorporated on the sixteenth of
September this year. So what's that two months ago by
Kitty Tamaheri y t t who happens to be the
wife of Rahwori ytt and also the daughter of the
Mari Party president John Tomahere she used her name Christina
ross Wikettoria Tamaheri. The sole director and sole shareholder is

(01:18:58):
Christina Tamaherre. It goes on with various other details that
appear to be irrelevant, but the main point here is
the toy To Tetarti Hikoi is organized by Eru Kapakini,
who works for the Marta Party or did work for
the Mary Party and is on the parliamentary payroll. He
was a candidate of the Maori Party. He's also the
son of a Marta Party MP and and it's also

(01:19:21):
organized by Christina Tamaheri wait Titi, the wife of a
Maori Party MP and the daughter of the Maori Party president. Now,
the question the text then asks, is is this a
fundraiser for the Mari Party? What's going on here? Well,
actually that's a very good question because if you go
online and have a look at the website for two

(01:19:42):
tetarriti well filia boots, you could buy a lot of merchandise.
So there's a T shirt for fifty five bucks. There's
a tongue ta te Ti T shirt for fifty bucks.
This is a koha just give a donation for ten bucks.
I'm so I'm the sovereign T shirt fifty bucks and
carries on hoodies for a barks, so on and so on.
So you know, looks like there's some money to be

(01:20:04):
made off this. So if anybody ever says to you,
and I'm looking at you, Willie Jackson, this is not
organized by the Maori Party. Hello Lo Lo Lo Lo.
And what makes us even more funny is that Willie
Jay and Chippy and all those other people in the
Labor Party have turned up to a protest that's organized
by the Maori Party. That is making money. It would

(01:20:25):
appear for possibly the Maori party. So yeah, good work
helping your enemies that talk about how naive can you
possibly be? Anyway? Hither as well as making supermarket and
that's the end of the hecoy. Have you had enough
of it today? I feel like I have, so I
think we'll let it rest there Hither, as well as
making supermarkets, the collection points for the batteries get all

(01:20:46):
con counseled to get rid of the stupid, not not
fit for purpose food scrap bins. Yes, do you know
what I have managed? I don't know how long that
thing's been sitting at my house. I have not used
it once and still have no intention. Hands up? Who
hasn't used their green the little baby Barbie sized green bin?

Speaker 20 (01:21:02):
Me?

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
Now, do you realize this is fascinating? Okay, I know
a lot of people will realize this, but do you
realize that time zones and a whole country having the
same time is actually like a reasonably modern thing. The
US used to have one hundred and forty four different
time zones, and the UK also had dozens until as
recently as about eighteen eighty. Now, the reason I'm telling

(01:21:25):
you This is because there was an article in the
BBC today about this and it reminded me that this
was one of the most fascinating things that I'd read
when I was reading the book Sapiens, which if you
haven't read it, it's a little history of mankind, is
absolutely fascinating. It reminded me. I didn't tell you at
the time about this, and I thought it was really interesting,
and I know the history buffs will know it. I'm sorry.
But anyway, how it used to work was that every

(01:21:46):
town used to have its own time, right in the
US and the UK, and it was basically they'd look
up at the sky and they go, oh, the sun's
at midday. That's at its height, so it's midday, and
every town would be slightly different. So for example, Auckland
might go it's nine o'clock and Hamilton be like, that's
nine thirty, and were exactly the same time of day,
same point in the day, but that would have different
time zones. And in the US, as I said, they

(01:22:07):
had one hundred and forty four different times, but it
didn't really matter because people didn't travel that far back then,
so you would never really come across a different time zone.
But then trains arrived, and they arrived when they arrived.
The railways were laid real fast, and then obviously you
couldn't have different time zones because nick minute, you're gonna
have trains colliding with each other and stuff like that.
So they had to set a time. So they set
a national railway time so you could be in the

(01:22:28):
same you'd be in in your town. You could be
in your town and be like, oh it's nine thirty,
but the railway time is eight thirty, so you'd be
rolling these different times. Anyway, I'm not even finished with
the story. Stand by, I'll tell you some moren just
a minute headlines.

Speaker 26 (01:22:39):
Now, whether it's macro micro or just playing economics, it's
all on The Business Hour with Heather Duplicy, Allen and
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Speaker 4 (01:23:04):
Sun Business has done tons of batteries every month in landfill.
Let's take them to Bunnings.

Speaker 9 (01:23:10):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
I said I wouldn't mention the heacoy again, but I
have to mention the hekoy one more time because I
just opened the BBC and this is the front page
of the BBC. Thousands flocked to New Zealand capital in
huge Maori protests. The country is seen as a world
leader for supporting indigenous rights, but many fear that's now
at risk. So that's that's the vibe out there. And
that's actually what my friend in Canada said. I was like, well,

(01:23:31):
why are the people and why are the people in
your weird little Canadian ski town talking about it? And
she was like, because they're shocked. They thought that we
were all like doing all this good stuff and now
we're not. So I guess it's just I guess it's
just headlines.

Speaker 6 (01:23:43):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:23:43):
If you don't I mean, if you don't really know
the detail, it can look bad.

Speaker 24 (01:23:48):
I suppose every time we promised that we're not going
to cover a store anymore, runch down, we always break
that promise late within two ad breaks.

Speaker 21 (01:23:55):
We've got to do that. We'll do it next time.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
We'll take three ad breaks. Yeah, can you count from it? Please?

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Ants?

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
Because our baby steps yeap school se maths, So ANSWER's
going to count next time, We'll take three ad breaks
before we break our promise. Anyway, Like I was telling
you about railway time, okay, so then what happened?

Speaker 23 (01:24:10):
Then?

Speaker 4 (01:24:10):
What happened is in. It was just shy of eighteen fifty.
Once that set all these railways and stuff in the UK,
all British railway companies adopted the same time railway time
so that they could not crash into each other if
they're using a single track and stuff like that, and
it was it was still another thirty plus years before
actually the UK government decided all right, let's just have

(01:24:30):
one time eight let's stop this nonsense where Somerset is
running fifteen minutes earlier than London and Manchester is two
hours behind. Because that weird thing was happening. So in
eighteen eighty, which I think is really fresh, like that's
not that long ago. It was eighteen eighty, but it
was the first country in the world, the UK country.
Is it a country, it's a conglomeration of countries. But anyway,

(01:24:51):
you know what I mean, first part of the world
to go, Okay, that's it, We're all going to run
the same time here, novel idea. Anyway, the US then
eventually got round to it as well, but they took
a little bit longer and they're really too big for
one big time zone. To a guy who was a
Canadian rail engineer, mister Training was really annoyed about it,
and he decided time zones of the solution, there should
be four, and so the railways did it in eighteen

(01:25:12):
eighty three. The federal government in the US only adopted
time zones in nineteen eighteen, so it's only one hundred
years old in the US, and anyway that's still using
the same one. So there you go. That is how
we got to have the same time running across the
whole country. Pretty new idea twenty two away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Ever, du for see Ellens.

Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
Okay, it looks like Auckland's run into a major problem
with building more houses. We don't have enough water pipes.
Water Care has finally released a map which shows the
areas in Auckland that are facing restrictions on development because
of water connections. For example, on the Hibiscus Coast, anyone
without resource consent already could have to wait around six
years for a new waste water connection.

Speaker 22 (01:25:52):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:25:53):
Andrew Crosby is from Expect Property Development. Hey Andrew, Hi,
how are you going ahead? I'm very well. Thank you.
Were you surprised when you saw that map?

Speaker 27 (01:26:00):
No, because that map has been hidden with water Care
for who knows how long, but probably many months. And
it's taken a group of very dedicated professionals who have
set up a public advocacy company to sort of help

(01:26:23):
water Care release those maps. So everyone who's bought land
around Auckland has got resource consent knows whether they can
actually develop the properties or not. Because of the infrastructure.
We knew it was coming, we didn't know exactly the
extent of the map, and it's quite surprising and perhaps
shocking how much of Auckland literally has no waste water

(01:26:47):
and water capacity.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
Yeah, that's what I was meaning. So you're not surprised
at the existence of the map, but you are surprised
at how extensive the kind of limitation is on where
you can build.

Speaker 27 (01:26:58):
What happened literally only weeks ago, maybe months ago, people
in Otara Papatowi started receiving letters developers who have resource
consent are entitled to rely on their resource consent. They
started receiving letters on their engineering approval applications saying sorry, guys,
there's no wastewater or water capacity in this area, we

(01:27:19):
can't give you engineering approval. And so that just started
slowly happening, and so we went quite sure of the extent,
and then the map was released, and you've got places
like Beach Haven, You've got the whole Hibiscus Coasts, You've
got you know, parts of Otara, Papatoa, You've got wait, TAKEI,
you've got East Auckland. That whole of East Auckland has

(01:27:40):
a color over it, basically saying it's not going to
be ready to twenty thirty five to twenty forty. So
doesn't mean there'll be no development, but basically they're saying,
if you want to do a little development here and
add some more affordable houses to the Auckland market, Sorry, guys,
our pipes aren't big enough.

Speaker 4 (01:27:58):
Yes, but still a serrem out of area in the
If they're amount of land in the city area that
you can develop on.

Speaker 27 (01:28:06):
Yeah, we'll tell that to the mum and dad developers
who have actually got resource consent when and spent tens
of thousands of dollars on buildingcent documentation and engineering applications,
only then to be told no, there's no capacity, there's
no fore warning, there are no civil engineers who knew
about this, there was no real transparency. Good on water

(01:28:26):
Care for releasing the map.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
Now where are you talking about where have people spent money?
Where if people spent money to develop land and now
they've been told they can't well in.

Speaker 27 (01:28:37):
These areas and Otara Papeta, But according.

Speaker 4 (01:28:40):
To the map it looks like there is ability to
develop there.

Speaker 27 (01:28:44):
Well, there's a big orange chunk in the middle which
I see thousands and thousands of hectors. Not that much,
but you know, there's a significant The map is quite shocking,
and there's a lot of people who spent money, they've
bought sites based on development that more than likely now
they'll be told there's no capacity for another ten years.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
So I mean, it feels to me as if water
Care has known but not been completely upfront about this.

Speaker 6 (01:29:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 27 (01:29:10):
Absolutely, But how.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
Long have they known.

Speaker 27 (01:29:13):
I don't know. But there were unofficial maps released by
people on the inside and they surfaced a month or
three ago, so I guess.

Speaker 19 (01:29:24):
I mean.

Speaker 27 (01:29:24):
My theory is that when the government, the previous government
launched the MDRS rule, all of a sudden, council had
to throw in a lot of their plans. This is
an auckland because all the unitary plan had infrastructure signed,
you'd think, and then the new government put all these
new rules in without thinking anything about infrastructure, and then

(01:29:45):
the council had to sort of rapidly adapt and now
there's new areas which there's just no infrastructure left as
far as transmission and pipes and all those sorts of things.
So it's a bit of a it's a bit of
a puzzle and it's a big problem. And I'm not
sure what the solution is, but at least being transparent
now and getting that information into the hands of everyone,

(01:30:08):
you'll slowly help this.

Speaker 18 (01:30:10):
So long.

Speaker 4 (01:30:10):
Yeah, well, good luck with it, Andrew, thanks very much
for talking out through. That's Andrew Crosby expects property developments. Hey,
this is my favorite study of the day. This is
from the University of Otago. Sometimes I despair when I
see the stuff that they're doing. Sometimes they do awesome work,
but sometimes they do real crappers. This is a real crapper,

(01:30:31):
So old mate, who is this? You deserve to be
named co author? Associate Professor Leana Machado of the Department
of Psychology has done a study on what happens if
you wear a face mask for eight hours or more.
Results show people who wore a face mask for about
eight hours felt less happy, more tense, and performed poorly

(01:30:52):
when their focus was tested. Really, what do you have
to study that for? Did you not live through COVID?
That was that was terrible. It was a terrible time.
Remember when you had to go to work up with
the face mask on? How grumpy you're getting me scratching
away and oh it was so annoying and it was
stinky and they're wet yuck. Of course it made like

(01:31:13):
and you had if this is if you're an essential worker.
I mean, I don't know about I don't know about
people who weren't, but surely you were wearing a face
mask when you're out on public transport and stuff like that,
or in the shop. Remember you had to wear it
in the shop. Come on, we all did it. You
know that it makes you grumpy? What you're doing studies
on this for? Then this? Masks have become a normal,
often essential part of people's lives following the pandemic. Who

(01:31:35):
who is still wearing a mask? I mean, like if
it was probably if you're still wearing a mask because
you're a nurse. It was already part of your life beforehand,
wasn't it. So who's now all of a sudden, like
I'm still wearing a mask. I have to Oh, honestly,
she could have and they only did forty two people.
They could have just they could have done the whole country.
Asked us afterwards, how'd you feel? I would have been like,

(01:31:56):
really grouchy, hate it caught it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:58):
Too everything from me. He's the big corporates, the business
with hither duplet and my HR. The HR solution for
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Speaker 4 (01:32:09):
The Brady UK correspondent is with us. Hello, Inda, Heather
Gright to speak to you. How did Kiostama's meet and
go with shooting pain.

Speaker 28 (01:32:17):
I think it's gone very well and it's very significant
because the first time a British Prime minister has met
the Chinese president for five years. You have to go
back to Theresa May. And obviously this is all about
growth and the economy and business and money and we're
limping along here the last quarter zero point one percent
of growth in the British economy. It's simply not good enough.

(01:32:39):
Starmer is a pragmatist and he's even said it in
his speech and talking to reporters in Brazil at the
G twenty where this happened, he said he wants a
serious and pragmatic relationship with China. It's all about business
and look, there will be some concerns over human rights
abuses and the treatment of the Wigers in certain regions

(01:33:00):
of China, but I think Starmar is just going to
pinch his nose on that one and just see if
he can develop relations with China in a way that
no prime minister has since Cameron.

Speaker 4 (01:33:10):
Is any part of this designed to kind of irritate Trump.

Speaker 28 (01:33:16):
I think it's Trump proofing in a ways. The phrase
I've been hearing around Europe talking to certain leaders and
politicians and business people the last few weeks. They're just
trying to make sure that they're ready for whatever happens.
And I think the big fear in Europe is trade
Tariff's that if he starts whacking on ten and twenty
percent on goods coming from Europe, you know, right now

(01:33:38):
would be a very useful time to be part of
the European Union block, twenty seven nations all pulling together,
and the UK, by virtue of the brilliant idea that
Briggs it was, is sitting on the sidelines, licking its
wounds and going nowhere. So Starmer has decided that, you know,
take positive action, become friends with g and just see
what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
And you know what it Also, it feels like it
might be done to slightly dissuade Donald Trump from those terriffs,
because what Stam is indicating is that's cool, mate, you
can hit me with the teriff. I'm just going to
pivot this way.

Speaker 28 (01:34:09):
Yeah, And I think the big fear for Europe will
be that if China gets hit with tariffs from Trump,
that Europe will get flooded with an awful lot of
even cheaper Chinese goods that they want to offload. Certainly,
the EV vehicle scene is something that is taxing a
lot of brains in the European Union right now. They're
very very concerned because the Chinese evs are so much

(01:34:30):
cheaper than anything they're making in Germany right now.

Speaker 11 (01:34:32):
For example.

Speaker 28 (01:34:32):
So it's look, it's a fascinating time. Plus Starmer is
no idiot. I think he's really kind of upped his
game and he's realized that how can we grow this
economy with the impact and damage Breggs that has done.
We need the Chinese on board now.

Speaker 4 (01:34:48):
Is it actually true that Mo Farrah had his phone
and then chased the van down.

Speaker 28 (01:34:54):
It is now I know Mo and I've trained with him,
believe it or not. I've run with him a few
times and he's always messing around with his fitness watch.
And so what he was doing was he was in
the street. He lives in a private, gated community, as
you would imagine one of the world's fastest people and
hugely successful, multimillionaire, double winning gold medalists would be, and

(01:35:16):
he had his phone on the street and he was
doing his exercises directly outside his house. And he's running
along and the van pulls in, sees the phone by
the pavement, and a guy jumps out, whips the phone
and the van drives off. But unfortunately for the van driver,
he got outsprinted by Moufara. Mofara caught up with them
and he's the most recognizable sports person in Britain and

(01:35:39):
he stuck his head in the van window and said,
give me my phone back now. And of course they
couldn't get out of that. It's a gated community, so
there is an entrance code and CCTV cameras everywhere. And
I think the two idiots in the van thought, you
know what this is not worth the hassle, so they
give Molfarrell back his mobile phone.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
Two right in the jeez, is anybody in the world
you don't know? I'm so im pretty thank you so much, Brady.
I just trained with mo No big deal into Brady
are UK correspondent Hey getting a lot of texts suggesting
that the tooka to a pulp and paper mill has
a big meeting tomorrow about potential closures. It sounds like
it might be in trouble. The staff at the Kinleath

(01:36:18):
mill have been summon summoned rather to a meeting tomorrow
morning in the cafeteria at eight and it sounds like
they are going to shut down potentially two hundred jobs
at the mill. This is the same company that owns
the Penrose mill that shut down a few weeks ago.
The mill's been around for a long time, opened in
the nineteen fifties. So that's going to be really sad news.
And I wonder what it means for our paper and

(01:36:39):
our cardboard recycling because with the Penrose mill shutting, a
whole bunch of paper now gets sent to Malaysia. Call
for the carbon mass, say, and I think the other
one does the cardboard. So it's that the same problem.
Ain't away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
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Speaker 4 (01:37:06):
I'd be hey, six away from seven, so late in
that I've already forgot on the time. Ticketech's website is
down now. I don't know why I'm telling you this,
but I'm fascinated by this because I go to all
these concert clubs and stuff like that, and if it
was me who was trying to buy a ticket off ticketek,
I'd be really angry. Right now, I'm really upset. It's
been down for like basically two full days. They said

(01:37:28):
it's down for maintenance. If you go on to ticketech
dot co dot it's US and Australia. By the way,
this is really significant for them. It says, oh, maintenance,
maintenance is taking a bit longer than expected. If that
is maintenance, it's maintenance gone very wrong because they are
losing the ability to sell a whole bunch of tickets.
At the moment, no one can buy any tickets through ticketech,
and no one can access tickets that they've already got.

(01:37:51):
So they're supposed to be selling football tickets for this weekend.
They were supposed to be selling tickets for Jack White
and Melbourne and Sydney. Now that's been taken to another
outlet supposed to be selling techis. I think it's Rusch
and Murphy, alex Is on fire Ado, all of them
being given to other outlets to sell. Ticketek is saying
absolutely nothing at the moment. So hopefully there are no
Ticketek events in the country in New Zealand at the moment,

(01:38:13):
because otherwise we've got a problem. Just a quick heads up.
The undersea cable between Germany and Finland has been severed
and authorities are investigating because what they're worried about here
is that it might have been Russia doing some subottage. Yes,
I got what I wanted. Both producers at exactly the
same time looked up at me. Didn't you answer?

Speaker 24 (01:38:36):
I'll give you one of these as well.

Speaker 4 (01:38:37):
Hang on, thank you. I've been waiting for days to
get subotage into the show.

Speaker 24 (01:38:42):
I was talking about sabotage there. Sorry for people who
aren't listening last week. Yes, oh is it okay? I'm
just just going to make doubly sore, okay, just so
that people, because sabotage is not something anyone else has
ever said, and it's not something anyone thinks about. So
I'm just going to clear up that what you're talking
about is sabotage.

Speaker 4 (01:38:58):
I thought I saw another one. I saw another inch
with that that you can't You can't stuff around with
petite because what would you how would you do that
in English? Petty tay, pettit petit petite? No, it would
be pet tight, wouldn't it. And that's hideous, isn't it.

Speaker 24 (01:39:13):
I can't believe I'm indulging you on Yeah, okay, what
have you got greedy? By take McCrady players out tonight.
She is performing at Spark Arena in Auckland tonight and
the doors should be opening in at about four minutes.
I can't find.

Speaker 4 (01:39:22):
Tell me ticke a Tek is not doing it.

Speaker 24 (01:39:24):
Thankfully, this is a ticket Master gigks, so if you
don't have a ticket yet, you still can get one,
or you can need to show a ticket to the
show on Tsprena and Wellington on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
Good stuff and thank you. You know I've been sitting on
that subottage all day, just waiting for the may I
was waiting for them, and they all right, okay, but
it was quiet in the control room. And then a
minute at just one second pass and they both looked
up at exactly the same time, like you absolute idiot
at me. I'm just gonna think about that. That's what's
going to rock me to sleep tonight, just nagging them

(01:39:54):
on this. Thank you, yay, enjoy your evening.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
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