Jan Tinetti: Labour MP accuses Education Minister Erica Stanford of using derogatory language in the House

Labour's Jan Tinetti says consequences for rule-breaking in the House should apply across the aisle.

Tinetti claims Education Minister Erica Stanford called her a 'stupid b....' after a fiery exchange during Question Time. 

Stanford withdrew and apologised. 

Last week, Labour's Willie Jackson was forced to leave the House when he wouldn't apologise for calling David Seymour a liar. 

Tinetti says it's fair to also call out Stanford.

"Willie got thrown out of the House by the Speaker for that. So, you know, there is a consequence to that, that's why we have the rules and that's why we have consequences." 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Heather, what the heck is garnish Nana on about too
heavy a government causes poor productivity. We will talk to
the huddle about this because there's quite that. As you know,
Education Minister Erica Stanford has apologized today for calling Jan
Toinetti from Labor a stupid B word. Happened in Parliament
after quite a fiery exchange in question time and Jan
is with us. Now, hey, Jan, hey, Heather. Not the

(00:20):
first time, uh.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, we've seen this before, but this is the first
time that we've stood up and or our shadow Leader
of the House stood up and made a complaint to
the speaker.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yeah, and is this upsetting to you?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Look, I've got broad shoulders. I've been a school principle
and a teacher, so I've been called names over the years.
But it's more about the fact that we have rules
for a reason. I also had to think about and thought, well,
I wouldn't expect that in any workplace. We do have
to stand up as MPs and show good, strong behavior,
and we do need to take accountability for our behavior

(00:56):
as well. And really that's where I'm coming from. As
I say, I got broad shoulders.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
So Jan on the rules thing, It's kind of interesting
that you're defending the rules of Parliament today given how
much your party has broken the rules in the last week,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
I think in the last week has been a different
situation for everyone. Of course, we stand up for the
rules of Parliament, but the last week has been a
very different intense situation.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
That wasn't what happened today between the two of you.
Different intents as well, So so to break that rule, it.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Was definitely tense. It was a definitely tense time because
that's a robust exchange. But we already have rules around
how that is guided in Parliament. There's already precedents around that.
There hasn't been precedents around anything else that's happened, so
you know, that's time for Parliament to have those discussions.

(01:51):
I think Parliament has to have those discussions.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
So just in this last week, you have had Willie
Jackson get up and called David Seymour a liar in
breach of the rules and refuse to take responsibility for that.
You've had Penny Henae get up and join the Marty
Party hucker in breach of the rules. You've had Ginny
Anderson on the radio yesterday telling us it's okay to
break the rules if you care about it, and your

(02:14):
party voted not to punish the Marty Party MP Hannah
after Hemp Clark for breaking the rules. So, if you
guys are kind of cool with the rules being broken
in those instances, why are you defending the rules today?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Because I think you you actually are making a really
good point. We do abide by the rules, and I
think personally rules are there for.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
The rules.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Hang on, heither, just let me finish. Sorry, Perry on
when when you have when you do break the rules,
there is a something that's going to happen for you.
And Willie got thrown out of the house by the
speaker for that, so you know there is a consequence
to that, and that's why we have the rules, and
that's why we have consequences. As someone who has come
through the education system, that is really important to me

(03:01):
because that's when when those kids called me names, or
called my teacher's names, or did any of those things,
there was a responsibility of me to enact a consequence.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Fea was that two things. Will He got thrown out
because he refused to apologize, and to this day he
refuses to apologize. I would actually venture to you that
everybody's behaved badly here, but the only person who's actually
said the sorry and done the right thing is Erica.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
And can I just acknowledge that there was a She
has said sorry, and she has texted me since then too,
And that's why I say I've got broad shoulders. As
I said to media today, I'm not thinking too hard
about this, but it is just showing that as MP's
we do have to take responsibility through our behavior and
we do have to acknowledge our behavior too. So you

(03:45):
know that's something that I'm personally very strong about.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay, Hey, jan thank you. I appreciate you talking to us,
and as I say, not okay to call anybody that word.
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