November 22, 2024 • 5 mins
The All Blacks have named a surprisingly strong side for their final test of the year against Italy in Turin.
There are five changes from the 30-29 loss to France, with Sam Cane, Mark Tele’a, Ethan de Groot, Patrick Tuipulotu and Anton Lienert-Brown returning to the starting XV.
It’s also the test rugby swansongs for Cane and TJ Perenara – who head to Japan for 2025.
All Blacks assistant coach Scott Hansen joined Heather du-Plessis Allan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now the All Blacks have announced a surprisingly strong side
to face Italy this weekend. It's surprising because Itshlee has
actually never once beaten us in a game of rugby union.
The game kicks off at ten past nine on Sunday
morning our time, so tune into zb for live commentary.
And Scott Hansen is one of the All Blacks assistant coaches.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey Scott, good morning here from Turin, Italy.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Heather, Scott, I'll tell you what I'm excited about. In fact,
Ethan de Grush's back.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, yeah, Ethan's excited looking forward to this weekend Tomorrow night,
A big game up front against the Italians, a big,
passionate forward pack, so great for us to send out
the big man.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So are you going to spill the tea on what
was going on? Was he naughty or was he unfit?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh? Our protocols, our protocols. As mentioned, our protocols didn't
quite reach one of them, so the time protocol nothing
more serious than that, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oh, are you telling me he missed a deadline?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Pretty much just the standards we have in the group.
There's a deadline around where we needed to be. That
was the protocol and as we always do, we've been
held account to what that was as a group, and
then for us it's just around just moving forward, which
we've done. Ethan's excited for this game against the Italians tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But was it like a you missed the deadline because
you got two booths the night before and slept in
or was it just like you just missed the deadline
not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, again, it's been dealt with either. I appreciate the question.
It's been dealt with by Raiser, the leadership group. And
as I said, Ethan's excited for the weekend. We're bouncing forward. Yeah,
excited to see him jump out.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
No, I see where this is going. You don't want
to say that's all right, We're just fascinated by it. Now. Listen,
I see Sam Kaines in the starting fifteen. Now is
this because he is your best or is it because
it's his last game?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
This is because this is the team that we need
this weekend to perform really well. And Sam will wear
the seven jersey, do you guys?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I mean it's quite we're all a little surprised that
you're fielding this super strong team, given it's the Italians.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh, there's a lot of respect for the Italians here
as you would know whether they've done a very good
job in your six Nations, very competitive there, and they've
brought us to Turin near the mountains and the cold.
So we're throwing a team out that we know will
do well, but we're going to be focused on our
our performance of putting in a good one built around
(02:37):
our forwards and what we need there and also our
experience on the day. So Heither for us, it's an
all back team that's going out. It's got to put
in a performance we can all be proud of and
it's of the group that we're looking to do that
with this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Scott, tell me, how do you feel you guys have
gone this year in your first year as a coaching team.
Do you reckon you've convinced us?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well, that's for you to decide. You've got the ability
to there through your narrative to decide to add hither.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So I reckon you have. I mean, but I look,
I reckon you have because I reckon you took a
team that was performing really inconsistently and at times really poorly,
and you've managed to sort of it's a bit of
a shaky start at the start of the year, but
you've managed to get to the end of the year
doing pretty well. Right. I think there are some rugby
commentators who aren't as convinced as I am. So what
(03:23):
do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
There's definitely things to work on, and to be honest
with you, hither it's week to week here, so you
build your performance around that weekend's test and you bounce
into your Monday. You go through your learnings, whether it's
the outcome, was your way or not, then you bounce
into the next test. We haven't really sat back yet
(03:46):
and analyzed the season as a whole because test match
rugby is so focused on each week, and we'll get
time to do that in the coming weeks together as
a management group. But what I will say is we've
been so proud of the group the way responded to
our challenges. I think there's twelve due patients this year
that have come on and represented the All Backs for
(04:06):
the first time, all these little layers around how we've
built our game, our relationships both on the field and off.
Really proud of the group. Just an outstanding group of
young men that represent new Zealand so well both on
and off the field. Where we go, the boys always
complimented on how they behave their manners, how they look
(04:30):
after people, so all these things in the background that
I think New Zealand should be really proud of the
All Backs for now.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I heard that you guys are you are you using
Juventus as changing sheds? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well? Possibly, we're definitely playing at their home field where
we had the great privilege yesterday of going in and
visiting their facilities and meeting some of their players and
their head coach. We went to their museum which was
amazing the history of the club. Tomorrow nights, you know,
(05:01):
if we're in there in their shed and again quite
a cool little moment for us.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Scott, thank you so much, mate, Go well tomorrow. That's
tomorrow for you, obviously a little bit longer for us.
Our Sunday morning, Our time, Scott Hansen, all Blacks Assistant coach.
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Now the All Blacks have announced a surprisingly strong side
to face Italy this weekend. It's surprising because Itshlee has
actually never once beaten us in a game of rugby union.
The game kicks off at ten past nine on Sunday
morning our time, so tune into zb for live commentary.
And Scott Hansen is one of the All Blacks assistant coaches.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hey Scott, good morning here from Turin, Italy.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Heather, Scott, I'll tell you what I'm excited about. In fact,
Ethan de Grush's back.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Yeah, yeah, Ethan's excited looking forward to this weekend Tomorrow night,
A big game up front against the Italians, a big,
passionate forward pack, so great for us to send out
the big man.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
So are you going to spill the tea on what
was going on? Was he naughty or was he unfit?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh? Our protocols, our protocols. As mentioned, our protocols didn't
quite reach one of them, so the time protocol nothing
more serious than that, to be honest.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Oh, are you telling me he missed a deadline?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Pretty much just the standards we have in the group.
There's a deadline around where we needed to be. That
was the protocol and as we always do, we've been
held account to what that was as a group, and
then for us it's just around just moving forward, which
we've done. Ethan's excited for this game against the Italians tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
But was it like a you missed the deadline because
you got two booths the night before and slept in
or was it just like you just missed the deadline
not a big deal.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, again, it's been dealt with either. I appreciate the question.
It's been dealt with by Raiser, the leadership group. And
as I said, Ethan's excited for the weekend. We're bouncing forward. Yeah,
excited to see him jump out.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
No, I see where this is going. You don't want
to say that's all right, We're just fascinated by it. Now. Listen,
I see Sam Kaines in the starting fifteen. Now is
this because he is your best or is it because
it's his last game?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
This is because this is the team that we need
this weekend to perform really well. And Sam will wear
the seven jersey, do you guys?
Speaker 1 (02:06):
I mean it's quite we're all a little surprised that
you're fielding this super strong team, given it's the Italians.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Oh, there's a lot of respect for the Italians here
as you would know whether they've done a very good
job in your six Nations, very competitive there, and they've
brought us to Turin near the mountains and the cold.
So we're throwing a team out that we know will
do well, but we're going to be focused on our
our performance of putting in a good one built around
(02:37):
our forwards and what we need there and also our
experience on the day. So Heither for us, it's an
all back team that's going out. It's got to put
in a performance we can all be proud of and
it's of the group that we're looking to do that
with this weekend.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Scott, tell me, how do you feel you guys have
gone this year in your first year as a coaching team.
Do you reckon you've convinced us?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Well, that's for you to decide. You've got the ability
to there through your narrative to decide to add hither.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
So I reckon you have. I mean, but I look,
I reckon you have because I reckon you took a
team that was performing really inconsistently and at times really poorly,
and you've managed to sort of it's a bit of
a shaky start at the start of the year, but
you've managed to get to the end of the year
doing pretty well. Right. I think there are some rugby
commentators who aren't as convinced as I am. So what
(03:23):
do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
There's definitely things to work on, and to be honest
with you, hither it's week to week here, so you
build your performance around that weekend's test and you bounce
into your Monday. You go through your learnings, whether it's
the outcome, was your way or not, then you bounce
into the next test. We haven't really sat back yet
(03:46):
and analyzed the season as a whole because test match
rugby is so focused on each week, and we'll get
time to do that in the coming weeks together as
a management group. But what I will say is we've
been so proud of the group the way responded to
our challenges. I think there's twelve due patients this year
that have come on and represented the All Backs for
(04:06):
the first time, all these little layers around how we've
built our game, our relationships both on the field and off.
Really proud of the group. Just an outstanding group of
young men that represent new Zealand so well both on
and off the field. Where we go, the boys always
complimented on how they behave their manners, how they look
(04:30):
after people, so all these things in the background that
I think New Zealand should be really proud of the
All Backs for now.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I heard that you guys are you are you using
Juventus as changing sheds? Is that right?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Well? Possibly, we're definitely playing at their home field where
we had the great privilege yesterday of going in and
visiting their facilities and meeting some of their players and
their head coach. We went to their museum which was
amazing the history of the club. Tomorrow nights, you know,
(05:01):
if we're in there in their shed and again quite
a cool little moment for us.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Scott, thank you so much, mate, Go well tomorrow. That's
tomorrow for you, obviously a little bit longer for us.
Our Sunday morning, Our time, Scott Hansen, all Blacks Assistant coach.
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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