November 22, 2024 • 5 mins
The UK has expressed hesitancy at following through with the ICC’s arrest warrant for Israel’s Benjamin Netanyahu, despite strong support to oblige from the majority of the European Union.
Former British Health Minister Matt Hancock has revealed the country came extremely close to running out of PPE during the early stages of the Covid-19 pandemic, as he gave evidence during its inquiry.
The mayor-elect of Canadian town Dawson City, in Yukon Territory, has voiced his hesitancy at pledging allegiance to King Charles III.
UK correspondent Gavin Grey joined Heather du Plessis-Allan.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Gavin Gray UK correspondence with Uskevin Allo. I'll have to
check that out, okay, Gvin. It's slightly awkward because you
are looking at funeral photos when you do this, so
I'm inappropriate what we're discussing. But go and have a
look and then you know, and you could see Elton
John aged thirty one basically now on the ICC business
(00:23):
with Binyamin Ninyahu. What is the UK's position. Are they
going to arrest.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Him or not? Well, that's what's being asked of government ministers.
Europe has come out in very very strong support of
the arrest warrants. The EU Foreign Policy Chief Josette Burrell said,
it's not a political decision that's been made. It should
be respected and implemented by the entire block of Europe.
(00:48):
Now in practice, of course, that means that if Benyaminetna
who steps onto the soil of the European Bloc, he
should be arrested, as would be his former defense minister
and if still alive, the military command of Hammers so
Europe coming out very strongly in support of this. Let's
not forget the ICC. The International Criminal Court is based
(01:10):
in the Hague in the Netherlands and Israel and the
US are not one of the two one of the
one hundred and twenty four member states, so they don't
have to do that, they don't have to recognize it.
But certainly of the one hundred and twenty four member states,
it would appear that, yes, they will be arrested as
they touch down there, right, But.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I mean, you speak of Europe doing it, but then
France has said it's legally complex and that they haven't
committed to arresting. So this seems to be a little
bit of wavering within the block.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, oh, as is always heather with the block of
the European Union. A little bit of disagreements, but certainly
I think you know that that is a binding thing,
that it's all together in one block. So yeah, I'm
not quite sure how France are going to get out
of it. But each country will feel very uncomfortable about this,
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And then what do they do, Jubby? Do they continue that?
Do they say, you know, in one breath, yep, Okay, fine,
we're going to arrest the guy if he lands here.
But then on the other hand they continue to supply
him with the arms to commit these alleged crimes.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
M Yeah, and that's been the argument all along. Some
big supplies here in the UK to Israel for arms. However,
having said that, a drop in the ocean of all
the combined sales of arms from the EU and the
UK when you compare it to the amount of arms
going from America. So although it's quite a big trade,
(02:30):
it's absolutely minute in comparison to what that trade is
from America.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Hey, so it turns out you guys came really really
close to running out of your gowns and your personal
protective equipment and stuff during COVID, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes, So some awkward exchanges for the former Minister for
Health Matt Hancock here during the COVID pandemic inquiry, and
in that evidence he was giving evidence for the third
time about the impact of the healthcare system and he
said there was never a quote national shortage of ppe
(03:04):
personal protective equipment for healthcare workers, but in some cases,
he said, they did run out and it was awful. Indeed,
there were rumors and photos of some nurses having to
wear plastic bin bags early in the COVID crisis, and
Matt Hancock said, we need to learn the lessons of
what went wrong and put in place better stock bars.
(03:26):
But he said some hospitals came within six or seven
hours of running out of gowns. Of course, what he's
also trying to say is that is why the procurement
system was so rapid. I would say, chaotics. So with
the critics, he would say, well, we had to act quickly,
which I can quite understand. These things always easy in hindsight,
(03:48):
of course, Heather. But yes, certainly a lot of money
was paid for some stock that was never used and
has since been either buried or burnt. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Interesting, Kevin, Listen, how you guys reacting to this town
in Canada that's refew the elected members are refusing to
pledge allegiance to the king.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, quite interesting. This It isn't actually the first time
this has happened in Canada. In a couple of years back,
a French speaking province of Quebec past legislation that ended
the requirement to have elected officials take the oath on
the monarchy. But nevertheless, this is a very interesting thing.
So this is the one of the former gold rush towns,
and that's in Yukon territory. This is Dawson city, and
(04:30):
in that area lots of First Nation peoples were moved
on for the gold Rush, and one of the newly
elected people is from the First Nations and is saying
I feel uncomfortable was the word used. He said, uncomfortable
in taking an allegiance to the royals when so much
has been done to my people. Now others are in
(04:55):
solidarity with him, and so consequently a whole new intake
of counselors refue using to swear the oath, and under
Yukon law they must swear the oath within forty days
of their election. The clock is ticking. They've only got
till the ninth of December. After that, well I think
they have to go for a whole new vote again,
and at the moment they are stuck in an impulse.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Oh Kevin, thank you very much, appreciate it, look after
yourself and enjoy your weekend. That's Kevin Gray, our UK correspondent.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Gavin Gray UK correspondence with Uskevin Allo. I'll have to
check that out, okay, Gvin. It's slightly awkward because you
are looking at funeral photos when you do this, so
I'm inappropriate what we're discussing. But go and have a
look and then you know, and you could see Elton
John aged thirty one basically now on the ICC business
(00:23):
with Binyamin Ninyahu. What is the UK's position. Are they
going to arrest.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Him or not? Well, that's what's being asked of government ministers.
Europe has come out in very very strong support of
the arrest warrants. The EU Foreign Policy Chief Josette Burrell said,
it's not a political decision that's been made. It should
be respected and implemented by the entire block of Europe.
(00:48):
Now in practice, of course, that means that if Benyaminetna
who steps onto the soil of the European Bloc, he
should be arrested, as would be his former defense minister
and if still alive, the military command of Hammers so
Europe coming out very strongly in support of this. Let's
not forget the ICC. The International Criminal Court is based
(01:10):
in the Hague in the Netherlands and Israel and the
US are not one of the two one of the
one hundred and twenty four member states, so they don't
have to do that, they don't have to recognize it.
But certainly of the one hundred and twenty four member states,
it would appear that, yes, they will be arrested as
they touch down there, right, But.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
I mean, you speak of Europe doing it, but then
France has said it's legally complex and that they haven't
committed to arresting. So this seems to be a little
bit of wavering within the block.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, oh, as is always heather with the block of
the European Union. A little bit of disagreements, but certainly
I think you know that that is a binding thing,
that it's all together in one block. So yeah, I'm
not quite sure how France are going to get out
of it. But each country will feel very uncomfortable about this,
I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
And then what do they do, Jubby? Do they continue that?
Do they say, you know, in one breath, yep, Okay, fine,
we're going to arrest the guy if he lands here.
But then on the other hand they continue to supply
him with the arms to commit these alleged crimes.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
M Yeah, and that's been the argument all along. Some
big supplies here in the UK to Israel for arms. However,
having said that, a drop in the ocean of all
the combined sales of arms from the EU and the
UK when you compare it to the amount of arms
going from America. So although it's quite a big trade,
(02:30):
it's absolutely minute in comparison to what that trade is
from America.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Hey, so it turns out you guys came really really
close to running out of your gowns and your personal
protective equipment and stuff during COVID, didn't you.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yes, So some awkward exchanges for the former Minister for
Health Matt Hancock here during the COVID pandemic inquiry, and
in that evidence he was giving evidence for the third
time about the impact of the healthcare system and he
said there was never a quote national shortage of ppe
(03:04):
personal protective equipment for healthcare workers, but in some cases,
he said, they did run out and it was awful. Indeed,
there were rumors and photos of some nurses having to
wear plastic bin bags early in the COVID crisis, and
Matt Hancock said, we need to learn the lessons of
what went wrong and put in place better stock bars.
(03:26):
But he said some hospitals came within six or seven
hours of running out of gowns. Of course, what he's
also trying to say is that is why the procurement
system was so rapid. I would say, chaotics. So with
the critics, he would say, well, we had to act quickly,
which I can quite understand. These things always easy in hindsight,
(03:48):
of course, Heather. But yes, certainly a lot of money
was paid for some stock that was never used and
has since been either buried or burnt. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
Interesting, Kevin, Listen, how you guys reacting to this town
in Canada that's refew the elected members are refusing to
pledge allegiance to the king.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, quite interesting. This It isn't actually the first time
this has happened in Canada. In a couple of years back,
a French speaking province of Quebec past legislation that ended
the requirement to have elected officials take the oath on
the monarchy. But nevertheless, this is a very interesting thing.
So this is the one of the former gold rush towns,
and that's in Yukon territory. This is Dawson city, and
(04:30):
in that area lots of First Nation peoples were moved
on for the gold Rush, and one of the newly
elected people is from the First Nations and is saying
I feel uncomfortable was the word used. He said, uncomfortable
in taking an allegiance to the royals when so much
has been done to my people. Now others are in
(04:55):
solidarity with him, and so consequently a whole new intake
of counselors refue using to swear the oath, and under
Yukon law they must swear the oath within forty days
of their election. The clock is ticking. They've only got
till the ninth of December. After that, well I think
they have to go for a whole new vote again,
and at the moment they are stuck in an impulse.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Oh Kevin, thank you very much, appreciate it, look after
yourself and enjoy your weekend. That's Kevin Gray, our UK correspondent.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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