Murray Olds: Australian correspondent on senator Lidia Thorpe getting suspended from Parliament

Independent senator Lidia Thorpe was suspended from Parliament after she threw pieces of paper at Pauline Hanson after a row over racism erupted.

Labor Senate leader Penny Wong moved the motion to oust Thorpe - with Government, coalition, Senator Hanson, David Pocock and Ralph Babet among those who voted in favour.

Australian correspondent Murray Olds says Thorpe was escorted out - and has refused to back down.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Murray Old's Ossie corresponds with that's hay Mars good they here,
they're good afternoon, Lydia Thorpe.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
For gift that keeps on giving, made a good thing.
The senators rising at the upper House of the Federal Parliament.
It's been a very long year and the kids are
getting very ruckecy at the end of school. Yesterday, well,
look there's some moving parts in this. Yesterday pull in
Hansen tried to query whether Fatima Payment, a young woman

(00:27):
born in Afghanistan, is she even allowed to sit in
the Australian Parliament. Queried Hansen, Well, Fatima Payment gave her
both barrels, said you're just a disgrace of the human race, Hansen,
and then Lydia Thorpe throws Hanson's motion a bunch of
papers around the Senate. Well enough was enough for both

(00:48):
major parties and they ganged up on Thorpe and agreed
to have her suspended for two days ah the last
two days of the year. So she's walked out of
the house yesterday with a middle her up to the
whole chamber and she's come back today. The doors are open,
proceedings are underway, and she gives them a godfl take

(01:09):
a listen, Pal, I call the clerk. I call the clerk. Yeah,
there you go, Lydia Thorpe the gift he keeps on giving.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Is there anybody who is impressed with her behavior? I mean,
obviously right minded people like myself and yourself are like,
what a lunatic? But what about the people who care
about the causes that she advocates? Do they like this?

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well? Look, honestly, I can't. I can't answer that to
be honest. Look, she likes the sound of her own voice.
She loves the attention of the publicity. Yeah, whether that
gets her elected again when the Senate comes around, I'm
not sure. She certainly got more headlines than most of them.
I mean a lot of them. They could bite you
on the bum. They're so anonymous you wouldn't know who
the heck they are.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Yeah, fair point.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
You know who she is.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
And we will probably not forget for a long time
that copper who tasted the old lady's being convicted of
men slaughter, which really was there was no other way, right,
I mean, once you kind of knew the circumstances, it
was clear the guy shouldn't have done it.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well, now he should not have done it. And for
those who don't know, ninety five year old woman plan Nowland,
a great grandmother with dementia, and she was there in
a nursing home and Kuma down in the snowy mountains
a year ago now, no over a year ago now anyway,
as she had taken a couple of knives from the kitchen,
was walking but you know, getting around on a walker,

(02:30):
had gone into another residence room, which isn't cool, I guess,
and one of the supervisors called police. Will the police
have turned up with paramedics, and you would think, wouldn't you.
She's ninety five, she's frail, she's old, she can't get
around that quickly. And he puts a taser into a chest.
She falls, hits ahead and dies five days later from
a frection skull. So look, there's no winners in any

(02:53):
of this. He's been convicted. They applied today the prosecution
for for bail to be revoked and they want to
cast out your sentence. His barrister, the defendant's barrister, saying, listen,
there's no need for custody here, no winners, And for
a police officer going in side is going to be
very very tough. Indeed. I mean I think for manslaughter

(03:17):
it's up to is it fifteen years in New South Wales?
I think, so he's facing a long time in jail,
and I think we're going to find out more about
sentencing tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Must you see the story about this murderer who's in
jail and she's allowed to undergo IVF.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
That's right, I mean, we are. It's funny. I was
playing golf this morning and you know, with a couple
of older guys, much older than me, and they're saying, oh,
the world's changed, you reckon, it has changed. And this
outrage in Victoria where this woman convicted of murdering a friend.
The killer was high on ice. This mother of three
was just in the way and she was stabbed to death. Well,

(03:57):
this woman, Alisia Schiller, was jailed for at least six years.
That was back in twenty seventeen for murder. Now she
wants to undergo self funded IVF. And the critics say
this is outrageous that she's been granted permission to have
a child, But lawyers for her say, listen, just because
you're in jail, women do not surrender the right to

(04:18):
have a child. Deprivation of liberty, yes, but not you know,
surrender of all your basic health care rights. You have
the same as anyone else. So she says, you're going
to fund IVF herself. She'll raise the child in jail
until the child is five and then hand her off
to her own mother, the child's grandmother. Well, I don't
think too many people are happy about it. I mean,

(04:40):
you know, the court has ruled this is fine. So
I'm not sure exactly where this goes from here. I
meant she has to find a donor and get all
the you know, all the bits and pieces, all the
ducks got to know, have to line up, but apparently
nothing stopping her having IVF.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
It's got to go right up there. No, it's absolutely mental. Yeah,
the courts have gone nuts. Hey, I must thank you
for that. Appreciate it. Murray OL's Australia correspondent. How mad
is that?

Speaker 2 (05:07):
So?

Speaker 1 (05:08):
What's the court is? The court decided here that the
woman's right to have a baby outweighs the right of
the baby to not be raised in a jail. You psychos.
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