The Speaker of the House has ruled on MPs from Te Pati Maori and Labour - for their role in the haka in the House protesting the Treaty Principles Bill.
Gerry Brownlee has referred Labour’s Peeni Henare and Te Pāti Māori’s Debbie Ngarewa-Packer, Rawiri Waititi, and Hana-Rawhiti Maipi-Clarke to the Privileges Committee.
Newstsalk ZB political correspondent Barry Soper says the group violated the 'sanctity' of Parliament - and the rules need to be upheld.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In parliament, that hacker that went around the world many
many times. Those who took part now being disciplined. Bary Soper,
senior political correspondent with us this afternoon. Very good, good.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And rightly so. Ryan, good afternoon. I said at the
time that I thought it was the most disgraceful performance
I've ever seen in a parliament in my more than
forty years of covering it. It was totally totally disorderly.
Parliament should never be reduced to that, and that Parliament
(00:30):
has to have some sort of sanctity, and they just
blew it out of the water. And don't be surprised
if you see them doing it again, because they're being
very defiant even though they are going before the Privileges Committee.
So parliament began today with the Speaker Jerry brownly rightly
saying that the behavior of Labour's peni henade. Now he
(00:53):
nad didn't go up and remonstrate right in the front
of the desk of David c More, but he got
out into the corps of Parliament, which he shouldn't be.
He should remain in a seat. Debbie Na Riva Packer,
who looked as though she was firing a pistol at
David c. She denied that, of course, but that's what
(01:16):
it certainly looked like. Rawai White Tea. He's going to
the Privilege Privileges Committee. Hannah Raffiti myp Clark. She's the
one that started it all, although apparently she wasn't meant
to begin it. She was handed the legislation and then
took it upon herself to do the haka and look,
(01:40):
it was disgraceful and I think they should be dealt
with firmly by the Privileges Committee, but as we know,
it'll be a slap on the wrist with the old
proverbial wet bus ticket. Well, Jerry Brownie, of course he
stood frustrated while they're up to their antics. He had
no choice essentially to take the action as he did
(02:01):
as Parliament resumed today.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
The issues of members leaving their seats to participate in
an activity that was disorderly and disruptive to the procedure
of the House is something that should be considered further.
And I have determined that the actions of the Odorld Penner,
Hannah were Packer Rower and Hannah RAFETI might be Clark
and participating in a disruptive activity on the floor of
(02:23):
the House on the fourteenth of November gave rise to
a question of privilege, which stands referred to the Privileges Committee.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh there you go. Is he going to Have they
spoken yet about changing the upping the fines the penalties.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
They in fact they will be talking about they're having
a meeting today enough, But that's really more to see
whether the hakka can be used in the future under
the Tea Kunger Right, okay, and look at it. It
can be used. Now that has got to be a
arrangement with It's got.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
To be planned. The fairy decision.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Nikola Willis told us yesterday that Winston's a man of
his word, and Winston said it would happen by when.
So do we get something by tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, we're getting it this week. Let's say that. And
if Winston is amount of us, then we will see
it tomorrow. So it's imminent. The you know, the boats
that we were buying were far too big, and I
think most people accept that because the infrastructure on either
side of the Strait couldn't handle these big roll on,
(03:23):
roll off rail ferries. So I would think you'll see
smaller fairies. But it blew out from seven hundred odd
million to over three billion dollars and the government was
presented with it immediately on taking the Treasury benches. It's
been suggested the break fee with the South Koreans, because
(03:43):
they had started building them, will be in the order
of three hundred million dollars, So that's virtually money down
the gurglar, which is bloody terrible, but essentially Willis told
Parliament today the government had to act, as I said,
very quickly on becoming the government because the commitment labor
had just made it.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It would not have been a good deal for New
Zealanders to have shoveled more cash at a failing project
which had blown out to more than three billion dollars
in cost, and I would say was destined to blow
out even further where there were still questions about whether
the ships could pass through the Tory channel. It was
a failed project and the member's defense of it tells
(04:27):
me that she does not take value for taxpayers money.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Seriously, three billion dollars, Barry, I would expect a bridge
across the cook that's right, the greyhound racing. We've got
about a minute left. But this is fascinating from Winston
Peter's one hundred and fifty million dollar industry gone.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, well here he is giving the leg up to
the tab given the exclusive gambling rights yesterday, and then
announcing that greyhound racing is for the chop. It's interesting
that greyhound racing it started in my home province of
Southland in eighteen seventy six, almost one hundred and fifty
years old. I was going to play some audio, but
(05:04):
I won't.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I know, we're running out of time here, not of
that exactly, but look, I find it really interesting that
I tried to find out the figures when it came
to greyhound racing that the dog deaths are very very
low though a percentage of the dogs that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Do race point zero three six percent, so it's a
very low number. But I tried to find out then
the horse racing deaths, they would appear to me to
be much higher, although the percentages are not there. They
have cardiac arrest, they have a lot of broken limbs.
So anyway, Winston and Infinite Wisdom has decided over the
(05:44):
next twenty months, they're debating a legislation in the House
today to say that greyhound owners aren't going to be
able to euthanize the greyhounds without reason. If they're not sick,
they'll be re homed. There's about two thousand, nine hundred
of them. I've got a friend, Old Ellen Bollard, the
former Government of the Reserve Bank. He's got a greyhound.
(06:07):
He parades it beautifully along Oriental Bay in Wellington with
a nice little dotted cover. I's not raising it. He
will be home one, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Oh that's lovely. Well, there'd be twenty nine hundred more
where that came from.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, there will be. So if you want one right
there you go.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
You can be honest with you. I don't think they're
particularly pretty.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Beautiful, really high archers.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Skinny and ugly. Barry Soper, thank you very much for that.
Senior political correspondent for News Talks.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
He'd be for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen
live to News Talks.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
In parliament, that hacker that went around the world many
many times. Those who took part now being disciplined. Bary Soper,
senior political correspondent with us this afternoon. Very good, good.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And rightly so. Ryan, good afternoon. I said at the
time that I thought it was the most disgraceful performance
I've ever seen in a parliament in my more than
forty years of covering it. It was totally totally disorderly.
Parliament should never be reduced to that, and that Parliament
(00:30):
has to have some sort of sanctity, and they just
blew it out of the water. And don't be surprised
if you see them doing it again, because they're being
very defiant even though they are going before the Privileges Committee.
So parliament began today with the Speaker Jerry brownly rightly
saying that the behavior of Labour's peni henade. Now he
(00:53):
nad didn't go up and remonstrate right in the front
of the desk of David c More, but he got
out into the corps of Parliament, which he shouldn't be.
He should remain in a seat. Debbie Na Riva Packer,
who looked as though she was firing a pistol at
David c. She denied that, of course, but that's what
(01:16):
it certainly looked like. Rawai White Tea. He's going to
the Privilege Privileges Committee. Hannah Raffiti myp Clark. She's the
one that started it all, although apparently she wasn't meant
to begin it. She was handed the legislation and then
took it upon herself to do the haka and look,
(01:40):
it was disgraceful and I think they should be dealt
with firmly by the Privileges Committee, but as we know,
it'll be a slap on the wrist with the old
proverbial wet bus ticket. Well, Jerry Brownie, of course he
stood frustrated while they're up to their antics. He had
no choice essentially to take the action as he did
(02:01):
as Parliament resumed today.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
The issues of members leaving their seats to participate in
an activity that was disorderly and disruptive to the procedure
of the House is something that should be considered further.
And I have determined that the actions of the Odorld Penner,
Hannah were Packer Rower and Hannah RAFETI might be Clark
and participating in a disruptive activity on the floor of
(02:23):
the House on the fourteenth of November gave rise to
a question of privilege, which stands referred to the Privileges Committee.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Oh there you go. Is he going to Have they
spoken yet about changing the upping the fines the penalties.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
They in fact they will be talking about they're having
a meeting today enough, But that's really more to see
whether the hakka can be used in the future under
the Tea Kunger Right, okay, and look at it. It
can be used. Now that has got to be a
arrangement with It's got.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
To be planned. The fairy decision.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Nikola Willis told us yesterday that Winston's a man of
his word, and Winston said it would happen by when.
So do we get something by tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Well, we're getting it this week. Let's say that. And
if Winston is amount of us, then we will see
it tomorrow. So it's imminent. The you know, the boats
that we were buying were far too big, and I
think most people accept that because the infrastructure on either
side of the Strait couldn't handle these big roll on,
(03:23):
roll off rail ferries. So I would think you'll see
smaller fairies. But it blew out from seven hundred odd
million to over three billion dollars and the government was
presented with it immediately on taking the Treasury benches. It's
been suggested the break fee with the South Koreans, because
(03:43):
they had started building them, will be in the order
of three hundred million dollars, So that's virtually money down
the gurglar, which is bloody terrible, but essentially Willis told
Parliament today the government had to act, as I said,
very quickly on becoming the government because the commitment labor
had just made it.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It would not have been a good deal for New
Zealanders to have shoveled more cash at a failing project
which had blown out to more than three billion dollars
in cost, and I would say was destined to blow
out even further where there were still questions about whether
the ships could pass through the Tory channel. It was
a failed project and the member's defense of it tells
(04:27):
me that she does not take value for taxpayers money.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Seriously, three billion dollars, Barry, I would expect a bridge
across the cook that's right, the greyhound racing. We've got
about a minute left. But this is fascinating from Winston
Peter's one hundred and fifty million dollar industry gone.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, well here he is giving the leg up to
the tab given the exclusive gambling rights yesterday, and then
announcing that greyhound racing is for the chop. It's interesting
that greyhound racing it started in my home province of
Southland in eighteen seventy six, almost one hundred and fifty
years old. I was going to play some audio, but
(05:04):
I won't.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I know, we're running out of time here, not of
that exactly, but look, I find it really interesting that
I tried to find out the figures when it came
to greyhound racing that the dog deaths are very very
low though a percentage of the dogs that.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Do race point zero three six percent, so it's a
very low number. But I tried to find out then
the horse racing deaths, they would appear to me to
be much higher, although the percentages are not there. They
have cardiac arrest, they have a lot of broken limbs.
So anyway, Winston and Infinite Wisdom has decided over the
(05:44):
next twenty months, they're debating a legislation in the House
today to say that greyhound owners aren't going to be
able to euthanize the greyhounds without reason. If they're not sick,
they'll be re homed. There's about two thousand, nine hundred
of them. I've got a friend, Old Ellen Bollard, the
former Government of the Reserve Bank. He's got a greyhound.
(06:07):
He parades it beautifully along Oriental Bay in Wellington with
a nice little dotted cover. I's not raising it. He
will be home one, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Oh that's lovely. Well, there'd be twenty nine hundred more
where that came from.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, there will be. So if you want one right
there you go.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
You can be honest with you. I don't think they're
particularly pretty.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Beautiful, really high archers.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Skinny and ugly. Barry Soper, thank you very much for that.
Senior political correspondent for News Talks.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
He'd be for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen
live to News Talks.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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