December 11, 2024 • 5 mins
There's growing concern about a wave of newly-released British jihadists returning to the UK from Syrian prisons.
The UK Government is keeping a close eye on the possibility of any of the British jihadists detained in camps returning to UK shores.
UK correspondent Gavin Grey says there were potentially 'dozens' of British jihadists that had been captured while fighting for the Islamic State group.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Gavin Gray is a UK correspondent. Gavin good evening, Welcome
to the show. Hi there, great to have you on.
Tell me about this concern from the British government. This
is about a bunch of British Jihades who could be
freed from Syrian prisons and potentially return home.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, that's what they're looking at here, Ryan. So at
the moment, the group is holding roughly ten thousand fighters
in twenty six detention facilities across Syria. Also almost forty
six thousand people linked to Islamic State, most of them
women and children, at a couple of camps held by
(00:41):
the Kurdish led militia alliance supported by the United States
called the Syrian Democratic Forces. So, at the moment, the
new operators out of the capital of Syria, Damascus. They
are not in charge of this area in northeastern Syria,
but it's potentially possible that they may want to become.
And then the question is what would happen to all
(01:03):
those people in detention. There are said to be dozens
of British jihabes, so people who have left the UK
went to fight for Islamic State group and were then captured.
There are potentially dozens of those in these camps in
northeastern Syria, and the theories, of course, as the security situation
changes so much in Syria that they may simply be
(01:23):
allowed out and then will they try to get back
to the UK or do the UK harm And of
course we're not on here. There are fighters from other
countries as well, so that's a major question. And as well,
as we've been reporting now there's been a pause to
granting asylum for Syrian asylum seekers. Those from Syria represent
the third largest group of people crossing the Channel on
(01:45):
small boats, coming into the UK legally and then trying
to claim asylum. So it is going to be something
that the government here watching very very closely for security reasons.
But also you know, so much is moving so quickly
in Syria.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Interesting because I know that Austrian Germany are doing the
same with the paws on the asylum seekers, so the
UK is doing that as well. Interesting that Chancellor Rachel
Raves is making government departments save how much percent of
what percent of their budgets?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Five yeah, five percent, which many are saying is not enough,
and the departments are all saying, oh, I don't know
how we're going to manage this Ryan. It's not the
first time a government to say we're getting tough with
expenditure and we need to crack down. Will it work well,
I suppose time will tell. But it came on a
day that it was also revealed that one department had
(02:34):
bought two folders for wait for it, two and a
half thousand New Zealand dollars. They were six hundred pounds each.
They are luxury leather goods manufactured and they are extremely valuable.
But do we really need ministers to walk around with
folders that are that much money each? Ironically, there are
(02:57):
leather bound document holders available in the House of Commons
shop for just sixty five New Zealand dollars. So just
as the day the government's announcing this crackdown on waste,
then we get news that they're spending this amount of
money on these things. The firm that makes them is
of course a luxury firm. It's very well respected. It
also makes those famous ministeri or red boxes for the
(03:19):
for ministers, and also supplies the royal family. But at
a time when the government is trying to cut expenditure,
it does seem.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Bizarre do we know what was going to go in
the followers.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Probably just a few bits of paper. I mean they
are they're not very chunky, they're quite you know, they're
not meant to take large quantities of paper.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's outrageous. Scientists are hoping they can learn how to
fix loose dinchers with the help of an octopus. Gevin.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yes, so if you have dentures then you will know.
One of the big problems is actually getting them to
stay in the same place. Believe it or not, I
read a figure that really shocked me. About one in
five adults in the UK have either a denture or
partial dentures where they're missing teeth. So this is quite
a big thing. And of course the problem with the
(04:08):
dentires is they don stay in the same place. Because
the mouth is moist, it's moving around. It's difficult to adhere.
So a scientist from King's College, London started to look
for natural solutions. First of all, he got some peach
skin stuck to the upper part of his palate and
he thought, h now, what makes that stick despite my
moist mouth. The answer was small hairs, which you can't
(04:31):
really do with a denture. He then looked at geckos. Geckos,
how do they stick to glass on their feet? Well,
they use electrostatic forces, so that wasn't a winner. And
then he came upon octopus. Of course, how to OCTOPI
I think the plural is how do octopy suckers work
in strong tides underwater? And the answer is they had
(04:51):
this sort of vessel, a central vessel in their body,
and as they press down on a rock, so a
little bit of that central vessel decreases, and that means
you get capillary action, which miscapillary forces, which means things
stick to it. So he's now looking at the prospect
potentially a small sort of air filled domes that compress
(05:15):
when you press them on the gums. It doesn't sound
terribly high tech, but he's convinced this is going to work,
and already lots of money going in his direction to
see if it will work, to try and sort this
problem out once and for all goodness me.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It's an unusual place to find inspiration, but I suppose
if it works, it works, and the proof will be
in the pudding, won't it. The last thing you would
want would be like teeth that are like an octopus
coming out of your mouth's like a picture when you
were talking, Kevin. Thank you very much, Kevin Gray UK.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
Gavin Gray is a UK correspondent. Gavin good evening, Welcome
to the show. Hi there, great to have you on.
Tell me about this concern from the British government. This
is about a bunch of British Jihades who could be
freed from Syrian prisons and potentially return home.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Yeah, that's what they're looking at here, Ryan. So at
the moment, the group is holding roughly ten thousand fighters
in twenty six detention facilities across Syria. Also almost forty
six thousand people linked to Islamic State, most of them
women and children, at a couple of camps held by
(00:41):
the Kurdish led militia alliance supported by the United States
called the Syrian Democratic Forces. So, at the moment, the
new operators out of the capital of Syria, Damascus. They
are not in charge of this area in northeastern Syria,
but it's potentially possible that they may want to become.
And then the question is what would happen to all
(01:03):
those people in detention. There are said to be dozens
of British jihabes, so people who have left the UK
went to fight for Islamic State group and were then captured.
There are potentially dozens of those in these camps in
northeastern Syria, and the theories, of course, as the security situation
changes so much in Syria that they may simply be
(01:23):
allowed out and then will they try to get back
to the UK or do the UK harm And of
course we're not on here. There are fighters from other
countries as well, so that's a major question. And as well,
as we've been reporting now there's been a pause to
granting asylum for Syrian asylum seekers. Those from Syria represent
the third largest group of people crossing the Channel on
(01:45):
small boats, coming into the UK legally and then trying
to claim asylum. So it is going to be something
that the government here watching very very closely for security reasons.
But also you know, so much is moving so quickly
in Syria.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Interesting because I know that Austrian Germany are doing the
same with the paws on the asylum seekers, so the
UK is doing that as well. Interesting that Chancellor Rachel
Raves is making government departments save how much percent of
what percent of their budgets?
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Five yeah, five percent, which many are saying is not enough,
and the departments are all saying, oh, I don't know
how we're going to manage this Ryan. It's not the
first time a government to say we're getting tough with
expenditure and we need to crack down. Will it work well,
I suppose time will tell. But it came on a
day that it was also revealed that one department had
(02:34):
bought two folders for wait for it, two and a
half thousand New Zealand dollars. They were six hundred pounds each.
They are luxury leather goods manufactured and they are extremely valuable.
But do we really need ministers to walk around with
folders that are that much money each? Ironically, there are
(02:57):
leather bound document holders available in the House of Commons
shop for just sixty five New Zealand dollars. So just
as the day the government's announcing this crackdown on waste,
then we get news that they're spending this amount of
money on these things. The firm that makes them is
of course a luxury firm. It's very well respected. It
also makes those famous ministeri or red boxes for the
(03:19):
for ministers, and also supplies the royal family. But at
a time when the government is trying to cut expenditure,
it does seem.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Bizarre do we know what was going to go in
the followers.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Probably just a few bits of paper. I mean they
are they're not very chunky, they're quite you know, they're
not meant to take large quantities of paper.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
It's outrageous. Scientists are hoping they can learn how to
fix loose dinchers with the help of an octopus. Gevin.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yes, so if you have dentures then you will know.
One of the big problems is actually getting them to
stay in the same place. Believe it or not, I
read a figure that really shocked me. About one in
five adults in the UK have either a denture or
partial dentures where they're missing teeth. So this is quite
a big thing. And of course the problem with the
(04:08):
dentires is they don stay in the same place. Because
the mouth is moist, it's moving around. It's difficult to adhere.
So a scientist from King's College, London started to look
for natural solutions. First of all, he got some peach
skin stuck to the upper part of his palate and
he thought, h now, what makes that stick despite my
moist mouth. The answer was small hairs, which you can't
(04:31):
really do with a denture. He then looked at geckos. Geckos,
how do they stick to glass on their feet? Well,
they use electrostatic forces, so that wasn't a winner. And
then he came upon octopus. Of course, how to OCTOPI
I think the plural is how do octopy suckers work
in strong tides underwater? And the answer is they had
(04:51):
this sort of vessel, a central vessel in their body,
and as they press down on a rock, so a
little bit of that central vessel decreases, and that means
you get capillary action, which miscapillary forces, which means things
stick to it. So he's now looking at the prospect
potentially a small sort of air filled domes that compress
(05:15):
when you press them on the gums. It doesn't sound
terribly high tech, but he's convinced this is going to work,
and already lots of money going in his direction to
see if it will work, to try and sort this
problem out once and for all goodness me.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
It's an unusual place to find inspiration, but I suppose
if it works, it works, and the proof will be
in the pudding, won't it. The last thing you would
want would be like teeth that are like an octopus
coming out of your mouth's like a picture when you
were talking, Kevin. Thank you very much, Kevin Gray UK.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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