Winston Peters has fired back at speculation about how much the new Cook Strait ferries.
The Government won't reveal how much they'll pay to replace the service - but ACT's David Seymour claimed it would cost approximately half of the cost of Labour's proposal.
Newstalk ZB political correspondent Barry Soper says this is an especially challenging time for Winston Peters.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Let's check in with politics now. It is fourteen minutes
away from five news talks. He'd be very Soper, Senior
political correspondence with us in Wellington today. Get a berry,
a Ryan.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I thought i'd better come down to the capital to
see what the air was like following the non decision
on the fairies yesterday. And I'll tell you what, you
could cut the air with a knife. I think. I
don't think I've seen the challenge that this coalition has
faced as big as this one. They're all talking at
(00:32):
cross purposes. I mean Winston Peters, the new Minister of Rail,
he's been stressing the mess that privatization in the past
led New Zealand Rail. To David Seymour, he's been hailing
the partial privatization. He says up to forty nine percent
should be flogged off to private enterprise. You'll remember, of course, Ryan,
(00:52):
the name Ed Burkert, won't you.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
He was the previous Minister of Railways.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Wasn't the minister? He was the owner of Wisconsin Rail
that came in and bought New Zealand Rail in nineteen
ninety three.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And oh come on, Barry, I was barely born at
that point.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Exactly and then to know exactly. That's that's why I
knew it was a very unfair test. But look ed
burkertt that was the last time it was privatized. Was
brought back by the government because it was an absolute debarcle.
And really interestingly, if you see the exchanges between Winston
Peters and David Seymour at the moment he was being
(01:33):
interviewed today, Winston Peters was he said, you're talking to
the minister in charge, not the minister who was not
in charge. And he said of Seymour, he's wrong with
the figures he used, he's wrong on the question of
privatization and he's wrong on the question of what it's
going to cost. Now, the new Minister of Rail he
was caught, i've got to say, flat footed in Parliament
(01:53):
this afternoon when he was asked to respond to what
the Prime Minister had been telling the media and live
in today his Labour's TAGI utakri to Winston Peters in
the House this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Is the Prime Minister correct when he said today? But
for right now we've got a good solution and if
we can improve on it, great and if not we
move forward with that solution.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
If not, why not?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Well again, I have to confess that I did not
hear the Prime ministers say that, and until I do,
I will not confirm what I should make of it,
other than to say the Prime Minister is in the
best possible space at this point in time because he
has got the main solution, a united government that is
setting out to correct a grievous fiscal wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Has Cabinet already confirmed a preferred replacement option for the
Cookstrait fairies? If so, what is it?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The answer that question is no, Yeah, I think they
were on the verge of announcing it yesterday. They had
a plan in place, and our old mate Winston came
and pulled the plug and said, look, I can get
a better deal than that. I can get a roll on,
roll off fairies for rail and that's what he's going after.
So i'll tell you what. This is going to be
(03:08):
the biggest test that Winston Peters has faced in this government.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, it's a lot of the balls and has court
really isn't it? The multi Party? What's going on here?
The Multi Party advocating against police action on the gangs.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But it's sort of their rais on detra defending gangs
at the moment that young woman who made the harker
it might be Clark. She was asking the Minister of
Police today if he accepted the findings of the New
Zealand Police that there was essentially structural racism in the force. Well.
(03:45):
Casey Costello was standing in for Mark Mitchell today and
she said that the rhetoric being used about the police
by the Maldi party when it comes to gangs is
just unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Here's Costello, and it is a disservice to them to
have a narrative that suggests our police are anything but
the consummate professionals. They are the fourteen percent of New
Zealand police that are themselves Mary. What is ignored in
this narrative is the sixty percent of victims who are
themselves Mary. Does he think that it is appropriate for
(04:21):
armed police to barricade the road and intimidate and harassed
Barno attending the tonguey of the loved one to enforce
the gang patch back. I think that is a very
wrong and flawed reflection of the response of police at
Marti Tungy.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So the old gangs have certainly got a voice in
Parliament at the moment.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Ryan, what about hairdresses? Some regulations is going to be
looking at at their operations.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
What's that about, Well, you know it's the Minister of
Regulation of course, or removing it. David Seymour, he's on
the wall path now. He reckons that hairdressers are facing
unnecessary regulations. And I think you I wouldn't know this
because I don't go, but you would. You know. I'm
sure you've had a tipple tonsorial tipple in the in
(05:09):
the barbershop or the hairdresser, Ryan from time to time. Well,
that's against regulations. We're not allowed to be offered a
drink by a hairdresser. Also, dogs are prohibited other than
guy dogs. And so he's wanting to bring, he says,
hairdressing into the twenty first century, and he's going to
(05:31):
be removing regulations under a review that's expected to be
completed in the first quarter of next year.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Goodness, how did they used to cut hair back in
the day when you last went Berry? I can't remember, Ryan,
and Candasan's very quickly find and Candasan's coming here basically
because the Aussie is banned because they didn't like what
she said. And we banded it because they had banned her,
and now we've unbanded her.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You've absolutely got it in one. I just think New
z Yiland has shown that it can stand on its own.
If people don't like Candice Owns, don't go and listen
to her. But you know, the freedom of speech Union,
of course is hiling. This is a great success and
for the freedom of speech at most certain years.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Barrisopa, thank you very much. Great to have you on
as always. Barrisoper, Senior political correspondent.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Let's check in with politics now. It is fourteen minutes
away from five news talks. He'd be very Soper, Senior
political correspondence with us in Wellington today. Get a berry,
a Ryan.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
I thought i'd better come down to the capital to
see what the air was like following the non decision
on the fairies yesterday. And I'll tell you what, you
could cut the air with a knife. I think. I
don't think I've seen the challenge that this coalition has
faced as big as this one. They're all talking at
(00:32):
cross purposes. I mean Winston Peters, the new Minister of Rail,
he's been stressing the mess that privatization in the past
led New Zealand Rail. To David Seymour, he's been hailing
the partial privatization. He says up to forty nine percent
should be flogged off to private enterprise. You'll remember, of course, Ryan,
(00:52):
the name Ed Burkert, won't you.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
He was the previous Minister of Railways.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Wasn't the minister? He was the owner of Wisconsin Rail
that came in and bought New Zealand Rail in nineteen
ninety three.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
And oh come on, Barry, I was barely born at
that point.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Exactly and then to know exactly. That's that's why I
knew it was a very unfair test. But look ed
burkertt that was the last time it was privatized. Was
brought back by the government because it was an absolute debarcle.
And really interestingly, if you see the exchanges between Winston
Peters and David Seymour at the moment he was being
(01:33):
interviewed today, Winston Peters was he said, you're talking to
the minister in charge, not the minister who was not
in charge. And he said of Seymour, he's wrong with
the figures he used, he's wrong on the question of
privatization and he's wrong on the question of what it's
going to cost. Now, the new Minister of Rail he
was caught, i've got to say, flat footed in Parliament
(01:53):
this afternoon when he was asked to respond to what
the Prime Minister had been telling the media and live
in today his Labour's TAGI utakri to Winston Peters in
the House this afternoon.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Is the Prime Minister correct when he said today? But
for right now we've got a good solution and if
we can improve on it, great and if not we
move forward with that solution.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
If not, why not?
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Well again, I have to confess that I did not
hear the Prime ministers say that, and until I do,
I will not confirm what I should make of it,
other than to say the Prime Minister is in the
best possible space at this point in time because he
has got the main solution, a united government that is
setting out to correct a grievous fiscal wrong.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Has Cabinet already confirmed a preferred replacement option for the
Cookstrait fairies? If so, what is it?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
The answer that question is no, Yeah, I think they
were on the verge of announcing it yesterday. They had
a plan in place, and our old mate Winston came
and pulled the plug and said, look, I can get
a better deal than that. I can get a roll on,
roll off fairies for rail and that's what he's going after.
So i'll tell you what. This is going to be
(03:08):
the biggest test that Winston Peters has faced in this government.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, it's a lot of the balls and has court
really isn't it? The multi Party? What's going on here?
The Multi Party advocating against police action on the gangs.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
But it's sort of their rais on detra defending gangs
at the moment that young woman who made the harker
it might be Clark. She was asking the Minister of
Police today if he accepted the findings of the New
Zealand Police that there was essentially structural racism in the force. Well.
(03:45):
Casey Costello was standing in for Mark Mitchell today and
she said that the rhetoric being used about the police
by the Maldi party when it comes to gangs is
just unacceptable.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Here's Costello, and it is a disservice to them to
have a narrative that suggests our police are anything but
the consummate professionals. They are the fourteen percent of New
Zealand police that are themselves Mary. What is ignored in
this narrative is the sixty percent of victims who are
themselves Mary. Does he think that it is appropriate for
(04:21):
armed police to barricade the road and intimidate and harassed
Barno attending the tonguey of the loved one to enforce
the gang patch back. I think that is a very
wrong and flawed reflection of the response of police at
Marti Tungy.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
So the old gangs have certainly got a voice in
Parliament at the moment.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Ryan, what about hairdresses? Some regulations is going to be
looking at at their operations.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
What's that about, Well, you know it's the Minister of
Regulation of course, or removing it. David Seymour, he's on
the wall path now. He reckons that hairdressers are facing
unnecessary regulations. And I think you I wouldn't know this
because I don't go, but you would. You know. I'm
sure you've had a tipple tonsorial tipple in the in
(05:09):
the barbershop or the hairdresser, Ryan from time to time. Well,
that's against regulations. We're not allowed to be offered a
drink by a hairdresser. Also, dogs are prohibited other than
guy dogs. And so he's wanting to bring, he says,
hairdressing into the twenty first century, and he's going to
(05:31):
be removing regulations under a review that's expected to be
completed in the first quarter of next year.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Goodness, how did they used to cut hair back in
the day when you last went Berry? I can't remember, Ryan,
and Candasan's very quickly find and Candasan's coming here basically
because the Aussie is banned because they didn't like what
she said. And we banded it because they had banned her,
and now we've unbanded her.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
You've absolutely got it in one. I just think New
z Yiland has shown that it can stand on its own.
If people don't like Candice Owns, don't go and listen
to her. But you know, the freedom of speech Union,
of course is hiling. This is a great success and
for the freedom of speech at most certain years.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Barrisopa, thank you very much. Great to have you on
as always. Barrisoper, Senior political correspondent.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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