Ferry debacle, what a way to finish the year!
The big four trade banks are being told to become more competitive while Kiwibank'sto get a $500 million cash injection.
Greyhound racing gets the chop by Winston the dog lover.
Opinion polls out this week, ACT the big winner in the Curia poll.
The Māori Party leadership and the Haka leader sent to the Privileges committee along with Labour's Tau Henare.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, what a week in politics, and welcome back to
Barry Sooper, who is wrapping the week for us from
the behive. Let's start with the faery debacle. Barry, What
a way for the government to limp into the end
of the year.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, you could say they've been derailed, haven't they, Right
at the end of the year. The timing couldn't have
been worse for them, although in some ways it couldn't
be better either, because everyone will go off and the
holidays now and likely forget, although holidays are very much
part of the ferry service, so it'll be in some
people's minds anyway. But Winston Peters essentially has got until
(00:37):
next March to come up with a better deal than
what the government was planning. And the government really had
arrived at the end point. I suspect that they were
going to make the announcement this week. As a fatal
com plea, Winston Peter's pulled the plug. Said I want
to be Minister of Railways. I've been in this job before.
(00:58):
I can do it, and in fact I can do
it better than you. I can get a better deal.
Let's it set up a company and they'll do They'll
procure the fairies through that company. Well that's the idea anyway, Ryan.
But we'll find out this March whether Winston's negotiating skills
are better than those of Nikola Willis and other government ministers.
(01:22):
So really it's a bit of a standoff, and you've
got a real standoff between David Seymour on the one
hand and Winston Peters on the other Seamwel's talking about privatization,
flogging off forty nine percent of the Royal network to
independent investors, whereas Winston doesn't want a bar of it.
(01:43):
The other thing Winston is apparently seems to be insisting
on is having a roll on, roll off train service
through the ferries as well, to make it a seamless
bottom of the South Island to the top of the
North rail network. So we'll see what happens when it
comes out in the wash. But I'll tell you what,
there's been a lot of dirty linen heared in this wash.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Certainly has been. And I noticed that they're shifting slightly
shifting the goalposts as well by talking about four billion
dollars rather than three billion. But anyway, that's besides the point.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
They focus was plucked out, wasn't it right? Four billion? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Someone who is getting or an organization that is going
to be getting an injection of cash from the private
sector is Kiwi Banks. The four big banks have been
given a big telling off by Nichola Willis this week.
You know, the competition and Kiwibank's getting a five hundred
million dollar cash injection from the private sector. In my mind,
this is going to change nothing in the long term.
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, if you listen to those that made the announcement,
namely Nikola Willison, go they say that it's going to
make Kiwu Bank much more competitive, not just in the
business market, but in the mortgage market as well. So
they believe that this half billion dollar injection will in
(03:00):
fact make Kiwi Bank a very different bank. Now. The
Kiwi Bank's parent company, Kiwi Group Capital, and the Treasury.
They've been directed to talk to places like the New
Zealand Kiwi Saver Funds, the New Zealand investment institutions and
investor groups about coming up with the money. So they've
(03:22):
still got a long way to go. Even though the
idea that Kiwi Bank will be capitalized, the capital is
not in the bank, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
At this point, greyhound's racing getting the chopp by Winston.
Big week for Winston Peters this week, but they do
have twenty months to phase themselves out, Yes they do.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I know you'll be housing one because you like dogs, Ryan,
that almost three thousand dogs will have to be rehoused.
The past legislation this week under urgency to stop greyhound
owners from slaughtering the races. So whither that'll stop, basically
greyhound's being put to death is another matter. But Winston Peters,
(04:08):
he says, the public appetite for dog racing has fallen
away dramatically and he believes the sport is cruel. But
then when you look at horse racing, for example, Ryan,
there are more injuries and deaths in horse racing than
there are in greyhound racing. So you can imagine why
(04:31):
the greyhound racing organizations are very upset about that. Greyhounds
have been racing in New Zealand starting my home province
of Southland away back in eighteen seventy six. So it's
a very long standing way of gambling in this country.
But we're only one of five countries in the world
(04:52):
now that has greyhound racing. So it seems that we're
following an international trend.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Had a couple of holes out this week. We one
News and we had the Carrier Pole, both of them
showing a bump for to Party Maori, but also for
the ACT Party, particularly at Carrier Pole for the ACT Party.
Big jump from them stealing votes from National over the
Treaty bill.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, it's incredible, isn't it When you think Nationals down
four point six percent to this is in the Carrier
Pole to thirty four, Labors down four point six percent,
the same to twenty six point nine and who comes
through the middle. Act. Now, this is a real campaign
by ACT and not just the Treaty settlements but other
(05:36):
issues like the rail. They're making a lot of play
on that. So they seem to certainly on the Treaty
settlement thing be becoming popular with National Party voters. They're
up four and a half percent, thirteen percent. It'll give
them if there was an election held today, which of
course there won't be, give them seventeen seats in Parliament.
(05:56):
And ironically that's exactly the same number that Winston p
It has had when MMP first came into being in
ninety six.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I did my Herald column about that this week because
if I mean on those numbers, and yeah, they're just
one poll from one Polster in one month, but yeh,
on those numbers, that's national and act together alone, you know,
And that's surely got to be the goal, right that
both of these smaller parties want to kick the other
one out, don't they?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh yeah, well, you know, as we know in the
lead up to the last election, there is no love
loss and wasn't just a lead up to the election.
There's never been any love lost between Winston Peters and
David Seymour. They would die hard enemies. They've said the
worst things about each other you could possibly say in politics.
And then nevertheless they're sitting around the same cabine at
table now.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And that's what this very thing is bringing to the
full right is you've got David Sema on the one
side who wants, you know, a private privatization approach to this.
He wants a capital approach to this, a market approach,
and Winston Peter's with his nationalist approach and they just
don't work together. So if you can kick the one out,
then your argument gets this way, right, with Luxon and co.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Oh. Yeah, both both Winston and David Seyma would like
to see each other kicked out of Parliament, well one
and the other, so you know it could possibly happen.
In fact, keeps on the way it's going in terms
of public popularity. But I tell you what, there's a
hell of a lot of water to flow under the
political bridge between now and the next election run.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And not a lot of fairies to get them across
at Barry, thank you very much for that, Barry Soaper,
senior political correspondent with us live from so Sorry from Wellington.
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
News Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
Well, what a week in politics, and welcome back to
Barry Sooper, who is wrapping the week for us from
the behive. Let's start with the faery debacle. Barry, What
a way for the government to limp into the end
of the year.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, you could say they've been derailed, haven't they, Right
at the end of the year. The timing couldn't have
been worse for them, although in some ways it couldn't
be better either, because everyone will go off and the
holidays now and likely forget, although holidays are very much
part of the ferry service, so it'll be in some
people's minds anyway. But Winston Peters essentially has got until
(00:37):
next March to come up with a better deal than
what the government was planning. And the government really had
arrived at the end point. I suspect that they were
going to make the announcement this week. As a fatal
com plea, Winston Peter's pulled the plug. Said I want
to be Minister of Railways. I've been in this job before.
(00:58):
I can do it, and in fact I can do
it better than you. I can get a better deal.
Let's it set up a company and they'll do They'll
procure the fairies through that company. Well that's the idea anyway, Ryan.
But we'll find out this March whether Winston's negotiating skills
are better than those of Nikola Willis and other government ministers.
(01:22):
So really it's a bit of a standoff, and you've
got a real standoff between David Seymour on the one
hand and Winston Peters on the other Seamwel's talking about privatization,
flogging off forty nine percent of the Royal network to
independent investors, whereas Winston doesn't want a bar of it.
(01:43):
The other thing Winston is apparently seems to be insisting
on is having a roll on, roll off train service
through the ferries as well, to make it a seamless
bottom of the South Island to the top of the
North rail network. So we'll see what happens when it
comes out in the wash. But I'll tell you what,
there's been a lot of dirty linen heared in this wash.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Certainly has been. And I noticed that they're shifting slightly
shifting the goalposts as well by talking about four billion
dollars rather than three billion. But anyway, that's besides the point.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
They focus was plucked out, wasn't it right? Four billion? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Someone who is getting or an organization that is going
to be getting an injection of cash from the private
sector is Kiwi Banks. The four big banks have been
given a big telling off by Nichola Willis this week.
You know, the competition and Kiwibank's getting a five hundred
million dollar cash injection from the private sector. In my mind,
this is going to change nothing in the long term.
What do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Well, if you listen to those that made the announcement,
namely Nikola Willison, go they say that it's going to
make Kiwu Bank much more competitive, not just in the
business market, but in the mortgage market as well. So
they believe that this half billion dollar injection will in
(03:00):
fact make Kiwi Bank a very different bank. Now. The
Kiwi Bank's parent company, Kiwi Group Capital, and the Treasury.
They've been directed to talk to places like the New
Zealand Kiwi Saver Funds, the New Zealand investment institutions and
investor groups about coming up with the money. So they've
(03:22):
still got a long way to go. Even though the
idea that Kiwi Bank will be capitalized, the capital is
not in the bank, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
At this point, greyhound's racing getting the chopp by Winston.
Big week for Winston Peters this week, but they do
have twenty months to phase themselves out, Yes they do.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
And I know you'll be housing one because you like dogs, Ryan,
that almost three thousand dogs will have to be rehoused.
The past legislation this week under urgency to stop greyhound
owners from slaughtering the races. So whither that'll stop, basically
greyhound's being put to death is another matter. But Winston Peters,
(04:08):
he says, the public appetite for dog racing has fallen
away dramatically and he believes the sport is cruel. But
then when you look at horse racing, for example, Ryan,
there are more injuries and deaths in horse racing than
there are in greyhound racing. So you can imagine why
(04:31):
the greyhound racing organizations are very upset about that. Greyhounds
have been racing in New Zealand starting my home province
of Southland away back in eighteen seventy six. So it's
a very long standing way of gambling in this country.
But we're only one of five countries in the world
(04:52):
now that has greyhound racing. So it seems that we're
following an international trend.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Had a couple of holes out this week. We one
News and we had the Carrier Pole, both of them
showing a bump for to Party Maori, but also for
the ACT Party, particularly at Carrier Pole for the ACT Party.
Big jump from them stealing votes from National over the
Treaty bill.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, it's incredible, isn't it When you think Nationals down
four point six percent to this is in the Carrier
Pole to thirty four, Labors down four point six percent,
the same to twenty six point nine and who comes
through the middle. Act. Now, this is a real campaign
by ACT and not just the Treaty settlements but other
(05:36):
issues like the rail. They're making a lot of play
on that. So they seem to certainly on the Treaty
settlement thing be becoming popular with National Party voters. They're
up four and a half percent, thirteen percent. It'll give
them if there was an election held today, which of
course there won't be, give them seventeen seats in Parliament.
(05:56):
And ironically that's exactly the same number that Winston p
It has had when MMP first came into being in
ninety six.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I did my Herald column about that this week because
if I mean on those numbers, and yeah, they're just
one poll from one Polster in one month, but yeh,
on those numbers, that's national and act together alone, you know,
And that's surely got to be the goal, right that
both of these smaller parties want to kick the other
one out, don't they?
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Oh yeah, well, you know, as we know in the
lead up to the last election, there is no love
loss and wasn't just a lead up to the election.
There's never been any love lost between Winston Peters and
David Seymour. They would die hard enemies. They've said the
worst things about each other you could possibly say in politics.
And then nevertheless they're sitting around the same cabine at
table now.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And that's what this very thing is bringing to the
full right is you've got David Sema on the one
side who wants, you know, a private privatization approach to this.
He wants a capital approach to this, a market approach,
and Winston Peter's with his nationalist approach and they just
don't work together. So if you can kick the one out,
then your argument gets this way, right, with Luxon and co.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Oh. Yeah, both both Winston and David Seyma would like
to see each other kicked out of Parliament, well one
and the other, so you know it could possibly happen.
In fact, keeps on the way it's going in terms
of public popularity. But I tell you what, there's a
hell of a lot of water to flow under the
political bridge between now and the next election run.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
And not a lot of fairies to get them across
at Barry, thank you very much for that, Barry Soaper,
senior political correspondent with us live from so Sorry from Wellington.
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
News Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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