December 17, 2024 • 8 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, journalist Clare de Lore and Auckland Councillor Maurice Williamson joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
The Government books are deeper in the red than expected - and it's going to get worse. Should the Government make harsher cuts than it is already - or introduce more taxes?
Wellington City Council has voted to make a submission on the Government's Treaty Principles Bill. Is this really the council's business?
The old SPQR will soon be reopened - under the new name Jacuzzi. What do we make of this?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
A journalist clear Dolores with us this evening. Good evening
to you, good evening, right and Marris Williams and Aukland
councilor good evening, former minister, good evening, Good to have
you both here. The government box opening today. Look, Nicola
Willis's is basically keeping on with the spending and not
making huge cuts. She's got an eye of the election obviously,
Marris doesn't. She can't cut too hard.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, I disagree. I think you have to take quite
severe medicine to try and fix the patient here. I
was part of the incoming national government of nineteen ninety
where we did the mother of all budgets with Ruth.
It was pretty tough stuff. We were hated by people,
we were told you'll never see the light of day
again and as a government, and within two and a
half years of that budget, the economy had recovered so well,
(00:50):
things were going so right. We actually got re elected
only just, but we got re elected. I think if
you just do the modest stuff that's been done right now,
the pain pursuit prolongs it prolongs it for some time.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Do you think that this will clear silence that, you know,
the people who want the super sized to need in
hospital and the bigger fairies and everything. Do you think
this is going to be enough to silence those critics?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
No, I think we have such a polarized population now.
There are people who just want to carry on as
we have been and will not accept that actually that
isn't an option. And then there are those like Morris
who would go for deeper and deeper cuts. And I
guess I am predictably because I'm a centrist somewhere in
the middle, because I think what the government is at
(01:34):
the moment flailing about with is showing where it's leading
and giving people any sort of optimism for the future.
Business confidence is really low, and if you ask people
you know about their intentions for the future, even really
sort of some smaller successful businesses, they're not banking on
being around next year.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So it's come back, I mean, business sentiment has come
back somewhat, but it's not you know, through the roof.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
But Ryan, if you take a country that was a
way bigger basket case than us by a million miles, Argentina,
their new president's got in and said this stops now.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And he's rips. But you can't compare. I saw Houghton's
column on this, and you can't.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
They're not apples and apples, and in living memory they
have been right. They've been right to the bottom in
living memory for many of them. And I think you
know that we are sort of different countries. They've been
through dictatorships, for example, and we have not been there percent.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But you could learn something from what they're doing. I mean,
he's gone and he's told every minister. I love this.
If any minister in his cabinet ever goes out and
tells people that service is free, they'll be sacked. They've
got to go out and say the taxpayer is funding
that service for you.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Guys. Will be back in just a second. Our huddle
for tonight cleared the Law and Marris Williamson's.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
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Speaker 2 (02:51):
Home fourteen away from sex news talks. He'd be clear
to the lawd journalist and Marris Williamson, Aorkland councilor former
minister with us good evening back well, well, come back
to both of you. Let's go to Wellington. So yesterday
the Government says, comes out and bangs its big stack
and says, don't do anything that's you know, don't mark around,
don't waste your time, get back to the basics and
(03:12):
do things properly. And today Wellington City Council comes out
and says we're going to make a submission on the
Government's Treaty Principals Bill. Clear do you think that's a
good use of time.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I don't. I think it's a waste of time and money.
The bill is not going to progress any further, and
it doesn't mean there isn't going to be some sort
of agenda and you know, sort of platform that's built
up on the back of it. However, I think for
the council to do that, Wellington Council seems to be
belligerently intent on a confrontation with the government, and you know,
(03:46):
are they begging for a commissioner to be put in
at some stage? It's still looking pretty rough there. I
think they've got, you know, a chance to show that
they're really serious about Wellington. They've got buildings sitting there rotting,
waiting for things to happen. There's still water popping up
out of the foot paths occasionally get on with the
basic jobs. I really think it is wasteful and they've.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Got I say, you saw today they had Sam Neil
jumping in saying they should keep that city to see bridge.
Did you see that? Morris?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I mean, can I talk about Auckland Council because we
did something worse than that. The paper that came to
us as counselors was that we make a submission on
the Treaty Principal's Bill, which I was quite flummixed by
what the hell are we doing that? Why aren't we
fixing roads and foot paths and so on? But at
least it was neutral. And then the Chairman put to
us finally an amended paper on the day that we
(04:36):
oppose not just put a submission, but we oppose the
Treaty Principal's Bill, and several of us fought against it
but lost. And so now Aukland Council have got staff
working away developing up a submission on a.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Postal that's going nowhere correct?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And what's that got to do with us any rate?
Our role? And I love the way the governments come
up with getting your role and function sorted. You're actually
there to do a whole range of things, water and
wastewater and foot paths and parks and do you.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
They're too hard. They're just too hard. So this is
sort of like an easy an easy swipe.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Plus I have a theory that there's a whole bunch
of people who sort of wish they were running the world.
They wish they were working at the United Nations instead
of in some Security Council meeting, but actually they're just
running the white matar board.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It's like, get over yourselves. You don't need to have
an opinion on everything.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And we've had several people try to move emotions about Gaza.
Now Gaza is ghastly and awful and so on. It's
got nothing to do with Auckland Council.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Go and fix a pipe for goodness, that's correct. Hey,
lots to talk about. We've just heard from Erica Stamford
on migrants. But I want to get to SPQR for
those who aren't familiar. It's a bit of an institution,
would you say, in Auckland a restaurant and they've announced
the new name for SPQR, which is an iconic name,
and you know, I certainly learned about it once I
(05:53):
moved here. The new name is Jacuzzi.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Clear well, first of all, big ups to these young
women who are restarting. There was never my cup of
tea actually, but there you go.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But I think.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Jacuzzi it's got a kind of a wisty vibe about it,
don't you think? You know, it could have been from
you know, from some soap opera set in the West.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Okay, quiz question what did speak? And it's Roman? And
I it was on their signs and their banners. What
does it actually stand for?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Have no idea.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yes, it's to do with the triumphant of the nation
in Latin.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But it's Jacuzzi. Sounds like somewhere you go to get
a rash, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Well that may be, we don't.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I think we honestly, seriously, apart from the dread well,
I think it is a pretty dreadful name. I do
wish them well. So it's a brave move. You've got
to say, God on you for having a go, because
this climate is not good for them. But you know,
the names a little bit of a hard cell, but
it works. Let's go support it.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And actually there's a number now. I think that's the
third bar I've read about in the last month that
is opening in central Auckland, which is a wonderful thing
to hear about, because I mean you look at Wellington
and even in Auckland there are places where bars are
still closing.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Morris speak, I had such a name. I've been there
several times and had such a shock me wonderful and
I just don't were they not allowed to carry on
using that name?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, well, good question. Actually I'm not sure whether I
think if.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You're starting afresh, you're starting a fresh I reckon, Well, yeah,
I reckon.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What lots of people take over restaurants and keep their
name when they moved to new ownership.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Well, Morris, when you and I are in the business,
let's show them.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
We will show them how to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Will you go to Jacuzzie.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Not after the idea about catching a rash? No, that's
scared the hell of me.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
If I haven't done any brand damage, clear, thank you.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Well, they say it's going to be immersive, it's going
to have it. So I'm wondering, is there going to
be like a little pool there? Who knows all right.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Clear, Thank you very much for coming and lovely to
meet you. Clear to the Lord, journalist and Morris Williamson,
Auckland counselor.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive. Listen live to
news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
The huddle with New Zealand Southerby's international realty, local and
global exposure like no other.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
A journalist clear Dolores with us this evening. Good evening
to you, good evening, right and Marris Williams and Aukland
councilor good evening, former minister, good evening, Good to have
you both here. The government box opening today. Look, Nicola
Willis's is basically keeping on with the spending and not
making huge cuts. She's got an eye of the election obviously,
Marris doesn't. She can't cut too hard.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, I disagree. I think you have to take quite
severe medicine to try and fix the patient here. I
was part of the incoming national government of nineteen ninety
where we did the mother of all budgets with Ruth.
It was pretty tough stuff. We were hated by people,
we were told you'll never see the light of day
again and as a government, and within two and a
half years of that budget, the economy had recovered so well,
(00:50):
things were going so right. We actually got re elected
only just, but we got re elected. I think if
you just do the modest stuff that's been done right now,
the pain pursuit prolongs it prolongs it for some time.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Do you think that this will clear silence that, you know,
the people who want the super sized to need in
hospital and the bigger fairies and everything. Do you think
this is going to be enough to silence those critics?
Speaker 4 (01:13):
No, I think we have such a polarized population now.
There are people who just want to carry on as
we have been and will not accept that actually that
isn't an option. And then there are those like Morris
who would go for deeper and deeper cuts. And I
guess I am predictably because I'm a centrist somewhere in
the middle, because I think what the government is at
(01:34):
the moment flailing about with is showing where it's leading
and giving people any sort of optimism for the future.
Business confidence is really low, and if you ask people
you know about their intentions for the future, even really
sort of some smaller successful businesses, they're not banking on
being around next year.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
So it's come back, I mean, business sentiment has come
back somewhat, but it's not you know, through the roof.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
But Ryan, if you take a country that was a
way bigger basket case than us by a million miles, Argentina,
their new president's got in and said this stops now.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And he's rips. But you can't compare. I saw Houghton's
column on this, and you can't.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
They're not apples and apples, and in living memory they
have been right. They've been right to the bottom in
living memory for many of them. And I think you
know that we are sort of different countries. They've been
through dictatorships, for example, and we have not been there percent.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But you could learn something from what they're doing. I mean,
he's gone and he's told every minister. I love this.
If any minister in his cabinet ever goes out and
tells people that service is free, they'll be sacked. They've
got to go out and say the taxpayer is funding
that service for you.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Guys. Will be back in just a second. Our huddle
for tonight cleared the Law and Marris Williamson's.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty Elevate the
marketing of your.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Home fourteen away from sex news talks. He'd be clear
to the lawd journalist and Marris Williamson, Aorkland councilor former
minister with us good evening back well, well, come back
to both of you. Let's go to Wellington. So yesterday
the Government says, comes out and bangs its big stack
and says, don't do anything that's you know, don't mark around,
don't waste your time, get back to the basics and
(03:12):
do things properly. And today Wellington City Council comes out
and says we're going to make a submission on the
Government's Treaty Principals Bill. Clear do you think that's a
good use of time.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I don't. I think it's a waste of time and money.
The bill is not going to progress any further, and
it doesn't mean there isn't going to be some sort
of agenda and you know, sort of platform that's built
up on the back of it. However, I think for
the council to do that, Wellington Council seems to be
belligerently intent on a confrontation with the government, and you know,
(03:46):
are they begging for a commissioner to be put in
at some stage? It's still looking pretty rough there. I
think they've got, you know, a chance to show that
they're really serious about Wellington. They've got buildings sitting there rotting,
waiting for things to happen. There's still water popping up
out of the foot paths occasionally get on with the
basic jobs. I really think it is wasteful and they've.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Got I say, you saw today they had Sam Neil
jumping in saying they should keep that city to see bridge.
Did you see that? Morris?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I mean, can I talk about Auckland Council because we
did something worse than that. The paper that came to
us as counselors was that we make a submission on
the Treaty Principal's Bill, which I was quite flummixed by
what the hell are we doing that? Why aren't we
fixing roads and foot paths and so on? But at
least it was neutral. And then the Chairman put to
us finally an amended paper on the day that we
(04:36):
oppose not just put a submission, but we oppose the
Treaty Principal's Bill, and several of us fought against it
but lost. And so now Aukland Council have got staff
working away developing up a submission on a.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Postal that's going nowhere correct?
Speaker 3 (04:49):
And what's that got to do with us any rate?
Our role? And I love the way the governments come
up with getting your role and function sorted. You're actually
there to do a whole range of things, water and
wastewater and foot paths and parks and do you.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
They're too hard. They're just too hard. So this is
sort of like an easy an easy swipe.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Plus I have a theory that there's a whole bunch
of people who sort of wish they were running the world.
They wish they were working at the United Nations instead
of in some Security Council meeting, but actually they're just
running the white matar board.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
It's like, get over yourselves. You don't need to have
an opinion on everything.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
And we've had several people try to move emotions about Gaza.
Now Gaza is ghastly and awful and so on. It's
got nothing to do with Auckland Council.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Go and fix a pipe for goodness, that's correct. Hey,
lots to talk about. We've just heard from Erica Stamford
on migrants. But I want to get to SPQR for
those who aren't familiar. It's a bit of an institution,
would you say, in Auckland a restaurant and they've announced
the new name for SPQR, which is an iconic name,
and you know, I certainly learned about it once I
(05:53):
moved here. The new name is Jacuzzi.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Clear well, first of all, big ups to these young
women who are restarting. There was never my cup of
tea actually, but there you go.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But I think.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Jacuzzi it's got a kind of a wisty vibe about it,
don't you think? You know, it could have been from
you know, from some soap opera set in the West.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Okay, quiz question what did speak? And it's Roman? And
I it was on their signs and their banners. What
does it actually stand for?
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Have no idea.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
Yes, it's to do with the triumphant of the nation
in Latin.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
But it's Jacuzzi. Sounds like somewhere you go to get
a rash, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Well that may be, we don't.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I think we honestly, seriously, apart from the dread well,
I think it is a pretty dreadful name. I do
wish them well. So it's a brave move. You've got
to say, God on you for having a go, because
this climate is not good for them. But you know,
the names a little bit of a hard cell, but
it works. Let's go support it.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
And actually there's a number now. I think that's the
third bar I've read about in the last month that
is opening in central Auckland, which is a wonderful thing
to hear about, because I mean you look at Wellington
and even in Auckland there are places where bars are
still closing.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Morris speak, I had such a name. I've been there
several times and had such a shock me wonderful and
I just don't were they not allowed to carry on
using that name?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Well, well, good question. Actually I'm not sure whether I
think if.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You're starting afresh, you're starting a fresh I reckon, Well, yeah,
I reckon.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
What lots of people take over restaurants and keep their
name when they moved to new ownership.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Well, Morris, when you and I are in the business,
let's show them.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
We will show them how to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Will you go to Jacuzzie.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Not after the idea about catching a rash? No, that's
scared the hell of me.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
If I haven't done any brand damage, clear, thank you.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Well, they say it's going to be immersive, it's going
to have it. So I'm wondering, is there going to
be like a little pool there? Who knows all right.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Clear, Thank you very much for coming and lovely to
meet you. Clear to the Lord, journalist and Morris Williamson,
Auckland counselor.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
For more from Hither Duplessy, Allen Drive. Listen live to
news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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