January 20, 2025 • 6 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, Trish Sherson from Sherson Willis PR and Josie Pagani from Child Fund joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
What do we make of yesterday's Cabinet reshuffle? Do we need a Minister for the South Island? Is Simeon Brown a good fit for the Health portfolio?
It's a big day for the US tomorrow, as Donald Trump takes back the keys to the White House in his inauguration ceremony. What are we predicting for his return to the Oval Office?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're moving on and into the huddle we go. And
in the hudder we have Tris Chesson from Sharson, Willis
p R and Josie PEGANI, the CEO of child Fun.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello people, Andrew, Happy New Year?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
What about that?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
James?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
I think it's too late to say that trash, isn't it?
Is It almost too late?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
No first show first, when you first see people, I
go through to the end of January. I think it's fine.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You know what, I only packed down my Christmas tree
two days ago because I've been on holidays, you know.
So frankly, the New Year hasn't really happened for me.
That James Meager fellow Josie PEGANI, he seems pretty good.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
He's pretty impressive, isn't he. First time MP, first term MP.
And look, if anyone can make this ghost Chips ministerial
portfolio into something that means something, it's probably him.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I do think the problem why do you say it's
a ghost chip portfolio?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Because I'll tell you why, Andrew, Because when in the
last government we had a minister for Auckland and the
problem with these kind of slightly vanity minister portfolios is
that they sound great but they've got no leavers to pull,
they've got no ministry, so they can't actually do much
and all they can do is kind of represent Auckland
or represent the South Island. So I don't think it's
(01:12):
a it's a portfolio that means much other than that.
You know, someone like James Meagher if he can make
something of it, if he can make something of promoting
the South Island, he will, But it's a ghost chips portfolio.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Do you agree with that, Trish?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I do agree with that.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Actually.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I think if the job is being done by the
senior ministers in the key portfolios, that means it's a
job that's being done for New Zealanders in the places
they care about, like can I get an operation? Am
I safe? Is the economy growing regardless of whether you're
in the South Island or the North Island. And it
(01:47):
seems odd to me that you would have a minister
for the South Island. There's no minister for the North Island.
The Minister for Auckland issues was done away with, and
as an Auckland I agree. I sense it's about actually
showing the South Island some love and that there is
some focus there. I don't know that it's going to
(02:08):
be a huge vote winner because I think you know,
as you've seen with Nationals reshuffle that's been signaled this year,
it is all about the economy and it's all about growth,
and that's not actually about the government's books. That's about
the government getting out of the way of New Zealand
business and get help, you know, making sure they can
get cranking.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And Josie, the reshuffle is all about Sybby and Brown.
He's the new mister fix it. He's the new Stephen Joyce.
He's the new let's give a guy a job and
even if it's a bad one, he's going to go. Yep,
I'm up for it and I'm ready to go. But
is this a sign that they don't have anybody else
in their cabinet, in their in their caucus.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, you make a good point because I think they
came into government with quite a small caucus, you know
that is in opposition, it was a small caucus and
they've come into government with one. So they do lack
a bit of talent in that in the in the
back seats there and Simeon Brown is the kind of
mix it, mister fix it guy there. I mean, he's
certainly made some inroads and reframing local government, transport, energy,
(03:10):
and he's got a reputation for kind of holding holding
government government departments accountable, making it really clear what his
expectations are. He's quite tough, so I think he's a
good choice for health. And certainly the drums were out
for Shane Retty. A nice guy, but not wrong diagnosis.
You know, he's a doctor, but he just wasn't quite
sort of getting his teeth into the right problem for health.
(03:32):
And I think this is a problem what Simeon is
going to have to face here in the health portfolio.
We're all blim and terrified of something happening to us
or our families because can't see a GP, can't get
an appointment. I've got an appointment for an MRI. I've
got to wait about a year, you know. I mean,
it's just crazy at the moment. So I think people
are really terrified of this. And it can't just be
(03:54):
chuck more money at it, and neither can it be
cut spending and just rearrange the dack chairs and you know,
cut spending in the health putment. It just got to
be structural change and you've got to find a way
to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I totally agree. My neighbor actually just found out she
has blood cancer and there's no way that she's getting
anywhere near any treatment or any on cologies for six months,
and she's going what was going to happen in that
six months? That is the primal fear that mister Brown
is going to have to counter. It is eleven to six.
This is the huddle on news talks heb.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Fat too us rutily suggestion of the huddle with.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Tris Sheerson and Josey PEGANI. And it's inauguration day tomorrow.
So I actually had a fellow saying, Josie no sor Trisian,
I'm going to go to Tristan now, a fellow on
the radio just before saying, this will be the most
powerful United States president ever because he owns the House,
he owns the Senate, he's got the vote, and he's
also got all of corporate America falling at their feet.
(04:50):
And of course the Supreme Court says you can't actually
sort of prosecute him. So do you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, someone much smarter than me over the weekend, the
analogy that this is like when when Caesar took Rome
effectively for all of those reasons that you've said, like,
you know, he can't be he can't be prosecuted. He
will have incredible power over everything. I mean, I think
(05:16):
one of the great spectacles this week will be all
of the all of the tech bros bending the knee
to Trump. You know, Corporate America throwing you know, it's
sort of like terrible, terrible mental image, but you know
they'll be sort of throwing undies and money at him
is as fast as they can and and it just
(05:40):
I think from here it's a it's a hold on
to your hats moment. There has also been talk that
Trump is going to sign something like one hundred executive
orders in the first twenty four hours of office. So
you know what an absolute lucky dip that's going to be.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And I love it, Andrew, I mean talking about the
tech bros, I mean, they really have been sucking up,
haven't they? To Trump? At Mara Lago and someone described
Elon Muskers as channeling a kind of top gun meets
goldfinger vibe, which, when you think about it, that's exactly
what he looks like. And even like Mark Zuckerberg, you
know who seemed like this kind of serial killer look
(06:19):
that he had his dead fish eyes, you know, Julius
Caesar haircut, and now he's become the simpering baggy T shirted,
gold chain wearing kind of white wrapper.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, people have been watching too many movies. But yes,
I agree. It's going to be very cinematic at six
o'clock tomorrow and we'll have full courage. Thank you so much,
Nutrician Josie. This is News Talks. He'd be at sixty.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Six for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live
to News Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
We're moving on and into the huddle we go. And
in the hudder we have Tris Chesson from Sharson, Willis
p R and Josie PEGANI, the CEO of child Fun.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello people, Andrew, Happy New Year?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
What about that?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
James?
Speaker 4 (00:12):
I think it's too late to say that trash, isn't it?
Is It almost too late?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
No first show first, when you first see people, I
go through to the end of January. I think it's fine.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
You know what, I only packed down my Christmas tree
two days ago because I've been on holidays, you know.
So frankly, the New Year hasn't really happened for me.
That James Meager fellow Josie PEGANI, he seems pretty good.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
He's pretty impressive, isn't he. First time MP, first term MP.
And look, if anyone can make this ghost Chips ministerial
portfolio into something that means something, it's probably him.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I do think the problem why do you say it's
a ghost chip portfolio?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Because I'll tell you why, Andrew, Because when in the
last government we had a minister for Auckland and the
problem with these kind of slightly vanity minister portfolios is
that they sound great but they've got no leavers to pull,
they've got no ministry, so they can't actually do much
and all they can do is kind of represent Auckland
or represent the South Island. So I don't think it's
(01:12):
a it's a portfolio that means much other than that.
You know, someone like James Meagher if he can make
something of it, if he can make something of promoting
the South Island, he will, But it's a ghost chips portfolio.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Do you agree with that, Trish?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I do agree with that.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Actually.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I think if the job is being done by the
senior ministers in the key portfolios, that means it's a
job that's being done for New Zealanders in the places
they care about, like can I get an operation? Am
I safe? Is the economy growing regardless of whether you're
in the South Island or the North Island. And it
(01:47):
seems odd to me that you would have a minister
for the South Island. There's no minister for the North Island.
The Minister for Auckland issues was done away with, and
as an Auckland I agree. I sense it's about actually
showing the South Island some love and that there is
some focus there. I don't know that it's going to
(02:08):
be a huge vote winner because I think you know,
as you've seen with Nationals reshuffle that's been signaled this year,
it is all about the economy and it's all about growth,
and that's not actually about the government's books. That's about
the government getting out of the way of New Zealand
business and get help, you know, making sure they can
get cranking.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
And Josie, the reshuffle is all about Sybby and Brown.
He's the new mister fix it. He's the new Stephen Joyce.
He's the new let's give a guy a job and
even if it's a bad one, he's going to go. Yep,
I'm up for it and I'm ready to go. But
is this a sign that they don't have anybody else
in their cabinet, in their in their caucus.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Ah.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, you make a good point because I think they
came into government with quite a small caucus, you know
that is in opposition, it was a small caucus and
they've come into government with one. So they do lack
a bit of talent in that in the in the
back seats there and Simeon Brown is the kind of
mix it, mister fix it guy there. I mean, he's
certainly made some inroads and reframing local government, transport, energy,
(03:10):
and he's got a reputation for kind of holding holding
government government departments accountable, making it really clear what his
expectations are. He's quite tough, so I think he's a
good choice for health. And certainly the drums were out
for Shane Retty. A nice guy, but not wrong diagnosis.
You know, he's a doctor, but he just wasn't quite
sort of getting his teeth into the right problem for health.
(03:32):
And I think this is a problem what Simeon is
going to have to face here in the health portfolio.
We're all blim and terrified of something happening to us
or our families because can't see a GP, can't get
an appointment. I've got an appointment for an MRI. I've
got to wait about a year, you know. I mean,
it's just crazy at the moment. So I think people
are really terrified of this. And it can't just be
(03:54):
chuck more money at it, and neither can it be
cut spending and just rearrange the dack chairs and you know,
cut spending in the health putment. It just got to
be structural change and you've got to find a way
to do it.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
I totally agree. My neighbor actually just found out she
has blood cancer and there's no way that she's getting
anywhere near any treatment or any on cologies for six months,
and she's going what was going to happen in that
six months? That is the primal fear that mister Brown
is going to have to counter. It is eleven to six.
This is the huddle on news talks heb.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Fat too us rutily suggestion of the huddle with.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Tris Sheerson and Josey PEGANI. And it's inauguration day tomorrow.
So I actually had a fellow saying, Josie no sor Trisian,
I'm going to go to Tristan now, a fellow on
the radio just before saying, this will be the most
powerful United States president ever because he owns the House,
he owns the Senate, he's got the vote, and he's
also got all of corporate America falling at their feet.
(04:50):
And of course the Supreme Court says you can't actually
sort of prosecute him. So do you agree with that?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Well, someone much smarter than me over the weekend, the
analogy that this is like when when Caesar took Rome
effectively for all of those reasons that you've said, like,
you know, he can't be he can't be prosecuted. He
will have incredible power over everything. I mean, I think
(05:16):
one of the great spectacles this week will be all
of the all of the tech bros bending the knee
to Trump. You know, Corporate America throwing you know, it's
sort of like terrible, terrible mental image, but you know
they'll be sort of throwing undies and money at him
is as fast as they can and and it just
(05:40):
I think from here it's a it's a hold on
to your hats moment. There has also been talk that
Trump is going to sign something like one hundred executive
orders in the first twenty four hours of office. So
you know what an absolute lucky dip that's going to be.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
And I love it, Andrew, I mean talking about the
tech bros, I mean, they really have been sucking up,
haven't they? To Trump? At Mara Lago and someone described
Elon Muskers as channeling a kind of top gun meets
goldfinger vibe, which, when you think about it, that's exactly
what he looks like. And even like Mark Zuckerberg, you
know who seemed like this kind of serial killer look
(06:19):
that he had his dead fish eyes, you know, Julius
Caesar haircut, and now he's become the simpering baggy T shirted,
gold chain wearing kind of white wrapper.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Yeah, people have been watching too many movies. But yes,
I agree. It's going to be very cinematic at six
o'clock tomorrow and we'll have full courage. Thank you so much,
Nutrician Josie. This is News Talks. He'd be at sixty.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Six for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live
to News Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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