February 10, 2025 • 4 mins
Hurricanes coach Clark Laidlaw believes a new 'quartet' captaincy model reflects the selection tussles ahead for the Super Rugby side.
2024 skipper Brad Shields is joined by Du'Plessis Kirifi, Billy Proctor and Asafo Aumua in a new franchise model of four captains for 2025.
Sportstalk host D'Arcy Waldegrave explains further.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right now, Darcy's here with sport. Hey, Darcy Ryan, can
you very simple question that I don't know the answer
to it.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good because I'm a simple man.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Why is Anios pulling out of this deal with that?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I don't know. Maybe Sir Jim Radcliff's all angry that
Team New Zealand beat him in the yachting so he's
got everything in the toys that he's going. I said,
I don't know what I can do, like, I don't know.
It's something he signed up for and now ins it
up saying you can't reneag on this. Look at services
he's already had services provided. He still hasn't paid his
(00:33):
bill for last year.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Because the January payment hasn't been made. Right, Is this
the first we've heard of it? That the contract was built.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
About last year? But now we know the New Zealand
Rugby would have known what the end date was. But
now they've gone, Look, they've obviously been in negotiations. Can
we have the money oys please? And he's gone.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No stuff, I'm going wait, pretty outrageous. Well, it is.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
When you look at sporting contracts though they're not worth
the paid they've signed on, are they with sports? Teams
like I don't like you anymore. I'm going home family reasons.
So this is very, very different. But if Inzidare didn't
do anything, that would open floodgates, and they have.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
To because then anyone can walk out on.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Them, they've got to stand there and go, you can't
do this. We'll have our day in court. We will not.
It's posturing to a degree. Hopefully there'll be an out
of court sentiment because I believe it's ten million dollars.
This is probably money down the back of the couch
for Jim Ratcliff from any us. He's a billionaire, but
it represents a fair slug of cash for ends Are,
(01:37):
and that's coming up over the next couple of years
as well. So now they've got to shift their movements
to the court, but also to who else. It's their
name on the back of the all Blacks backsides.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And that's what it comes down to saying that on No,
don't worry. You know, we're out shopping around and we're
confident we can get someone else. I mean, how much
do we know how much this thing is worth?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah? Eight ten million dollars right, Yeah, that's that's per annum.
So that's that's a lot of money, but that's a whole.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And if you don't because this stuff's planned wayne advance, right,
So it's not like there's going to be a big
corporate out there who's got that kind of cash.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But it takes a couple of years to actually get
that sort of out. These sponsorships, you don't just ring
up some meat on Saturday for a coffee or sign
the deal. There's a long term arrangements. I think the
scary thing about this is that a Jim Redcliffe is
he's plainly making some old decisions. He's got Manchester United
now he's a part owner of them, and he's upping
(02:31):
all of the prices for memberships and ticket prices and
people don't like him very much. He's having an argument
around the America's Cup, so something's not right in as well.
But would you want to take on a court battle
with a guy with bottomless pockets? No?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
No? How long will it go for? How long will they?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
That's it?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That's scary.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Hey, the Hurricanes have decided they're going to have four captains.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, and yes everyone went and I understand that because
it's like you played, you get a certificate. You've got
the jersey here and a captaincy, but guardianships, they're more guardianships.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Look, there's one person in charge on the field though,
right ye.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think that it's a rather pragmatic decision. And the
fact that guys get stood down for all black reasons
because they can't play every game in the season, so
there's someone out. Your captain is probably going to be
an all black. Guys get injured so you can't have
them in the side. Guys get rotated in and out
of a team because it's of high attrition the sport.
(03:33):
So what he's basically saying is these four guardians of
the team. One of them wear the armband and complain
at the ref and decide whether to go for the
three points or not, and the other ones will stand
around and agree. When there's only one in the park,
there's our boss. So I think it's a pragmatic decision.
We're gonna need them.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Why not just because when someone you know, if someone
gets has to tap out for whatever reason, just peck
another one.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Then well they've gotten already lined up. They're in a
queue now on taxi rank. I don't want the blue start,
give me the corporate cabs.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I don't know. That seems a little weird to me,
seems a little silly.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, they had co captain, singular captains. Seeing it. Next
year the heart Enders are going to announce that the
entire bank is going to be captains. Don't let the
zoo all of the students be captains the same time.
I don't They're just trying something new and fun, all right,
I see.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
How it goes. Darcy, thank you very much for that.
We'll see you later on.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I think you spend more time in the sun than
I do.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Ryan Bridge, Well, I tell you what, I spent a
good four days up in Russell over the weekend. Absolutely beautiful,
and yes I did spend a good portion of that
in the sun at Darcy Watergrave a sports talk host.
Here on news talksb for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive.
Listen live to News Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
(04:47):
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Right now, Darcy's here with sport. Hey, Darcy Ryan, can
you very simple question that I don't know the answer
to it.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good because I'm a simple man.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Why is Anios pulling out of this deal with that?
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I don't know. Maybe Sir Jim Radcliff's all angry that
Team New Zealand beat him in the yachting so he's
got everything in the toys that he's going. I said,
I don't know what I can do, like, I don't know.
It's something he signed up for and now ins it
up saying you can't reneag on this. Look at services
he's already had services provided. He still hasn't paid his
(00:33):
bill for last year.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Because the January payment hasn't been made. Right, Is this
the first we've heard of it? That the contract was built.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
About last year? But now we know the New Zealand
Rugby would have known what the end date was. But
now they've gone, Look, they've obviously been in negotiations. Can
we have the money oys please? And he's gone.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No stuff, I'm going wait, pretty outrageous. Well, it is.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
When you look at sporting contracts though they're not worth
the paid they've signed on, are they with sports? Teams
like I don't like you anymore. I'm going home family reasons.
So this is very, very different. But if Inzidare didn't
do anything, that would open floodgates, and they have.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
To because then anyone can walk out on.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Them, they've got to stand there and go, you can't
do this. We'll have our day in court. We will not.
It's posturing to a degree. Hopefully there'll be an out
of court sentiment because I believe it's ten million dollars.
This is probably money down the back of the couch
for Jim Ratcliff from any us. He's a billionaire, but
it represents a fair slug of cash for ends Are,
(01:37):
and that's coming up over the next couple of years
as well. So now they've got to shift their movements
to the court, but also to who else. It's their
name on the back of the all Blacks backsides.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
And that's what it comes down to saying that on No,
don't worry. You know, we're out shopping around and we're
confident we can get someone else. I mean, how much
do we know how much this thing is worth?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah? Eight ten million dollars right, Yeah, that's that's per annum.
So that's that's a lot of money, but that's a whole.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
And if you don't because this stuff's planned wayne advance, right,
So it's not like there's going to be a big
corporate out there who's got that kind of cash.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
But it takes a couple of years to actually get
that sort of out. These sponsorships, you don't just ring
up some meat on Saturday for a coffee or sign
the deal. There's a long term arrangements. I think the
scary thing about this is that a Jim Redcliffe is
he's plainly making some old decisions. He's got Manchester United
now he's a part owner of them, and he's upping
(02:31):
all of the prices for memberships and ticket prices and
people don't like him very much. He's having an argument
around the America's Cup, so something's not right in as well.
But would you want to take on a court battle
with a guy with bottomless pockets? No?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Thank you?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
No? How long will it go for? How long will they?
Speaker 1 (02:51):
That's it?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
That's scary.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Hey, the Hurricanes have decided they're going to have four captains.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Yeah, and yes everyone went and I understand that because
it's like you played, you get a certificate. You've got
the jersey here and a captaincy, but guardianships, they're more guardianships.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Look, there's one person in charge on the field though,
right ye.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
I think that it's a rather pragmatic decision. And the
fact that guys get stood down for all black reasons
because they can't play every game in the season, so
there's someone out. Your captain is probably going to be
an all black. Guys get injured so you can't have
them in the side. Guys get rotated in and out
of a team because it's of high attrition the sport.
(03:33):
So what he's basically saying is these four guardians of
the team. One of them wear the armband and complain
at the ref and decide whether to go for the
three points or not, and the other ones will stand
around and agree. When there's only one in the park,
there's our boss. So I think it's a pragmatic decision.
We're gonna need them.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Why not just because when someone you know, if someone
gets has to tap out for whatever reason, just peck
another one.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Then well they've gotten already lined up. They're in a
queue now on taxi rank. I don't want the blue start,
give me the corporate cabs.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I don't know. That seems a little weird to me,
seems a little silly.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Well, they had co captain, singular captains. Seeing it. Next
year the heart Enders are going to announce that the
entire bank is going to be captains. Don't let the
zoo all of the students be captains the same time.
I don't They're just trying something new and fun, all right,
I see.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
How it goes. Darcy, thank you very much for that.
We'll see you later on.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I think you spend more time in the sun than
I do.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Ryan Bridge, Well, I tell you what, I spent a
good four days up in Russell over the weekend. Absolutely beautiful,
and yes I did spend a good portion of that
in the sun at Darcy Watergrave a sports talk host.
Here on news talksb for more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive.
Listen live to News Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
(04:47):
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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