February 14, 2025 • 10 mins
Newstalk ZB Sports News Director Clay Wilson and Sports Journalist Nick Bewley talk all things Super Rugby: The impact of Will Jordan and Scott Barrett, the team they predict will loose.
Over to Australia, Joe Schmidt has abandoned his role as coach, can the All Blacks take him on?
With the Blues, Warriors, Breakers, Auckland FC, and Moana Pasifika, can Auckland support another sporting franchise?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southebeast International Realty,
local and global exposure like no other.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
There's been a talk about restoration and restoring the manner
and the significance of the Crusader image.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Inescapable factor is that Inios and the owner of Inios
are reasonably wealthy. They won't have taken this action lightly.
They will have looked at all of the options, including
the cost of legal.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
The worries have been abound thirty years now.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You know what we believe is another team in Auton
is only going to lift the game and we.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Would hope toy hey for the sports huddle we've got
Nick Burley News Talks MB Canterbury Sports Reader and Clay
Wilson News Talks MB sport News Directed together. Gentlemen, good
evening to you, Andrew. All right, Andrew Hey, Clay and
the Crusaders do better.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Not with thirteen or fourteen injuries that Nick reported to
us during the week after we came back from training.
It seems like a like a hard ask. I think,
you know, you'd say their prospects look perhaps a little
bit bit of this year with a couple of a
couple of faces back, but starting the season with such
a big casualty board as it's pretty tough going and
you've got the Hurricanes going down there, who have a
(01:23):
pretty good roster, and you'd have to think are going
to be somewhere in the max. But probably the man
to really ask about that as our Canterbury sportsman like himself.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I was about to say, Nick, Billy, has your boss
actually stolen all your talking points or what else? Would
too late to say? You are you've been there and
look I've just had mister Mansbridge actually come on and
say these are fit and healthy men. You know they
can it's not too hard. They've got fourteen injuries and
they haven't even played a game.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, look I found that comment. I think what to
help out my friend Colin Mansbridge there what he was
probably suggesting, it's compared to last year in terms of
the type of player that they're without. If we look
at last year, which was a bit of a basket
case by the end of it, no Will Jordan and
all Scott Barrett played four games to Mighty Williams was
out a long time. Cody Taylor had a non playing
(02:05):
sabbatical ridden into his contract. These are guys who are
there outside of Cody Taylor's got a wee hamstrings train,
but they're there tonight, Will Jordan, you know Scott Barrett
that they're going to make a huge difference to this team,
and rightly or wrongly, in terms of talking about attrition
throughout the season, a large part of the success is
what players you do have available over a competition which
(02:26):
spans the best part of four months. So look, I
think the Crusaders are in a much better position. Pretty
Much everything that possibly could have gone wrong last year
did go wrong, and I do suspect that they'll be
a lot better this year. Do I think they can win?
I think it's the Blues and the Chiefs to lose personally,
but I think they'll be there at the business end
of the season.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Because they are playing tomorrow in a replay of the final,
and that'll be good. A final rugby question, Joe Schmidt
abandoned by Australia or no? Or did he know he
abandoned Australia, which is actually must be heartbreaking for Australia.
But here's the thing. We can we take him up
in some role or another with the All Blacks all
with the New zeand Rugby Clay Well.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Another of our steam College, Eliot Smith, made this point
during his column for The Herald and I and I,
you know, you have to look at what Joe Schmitt's
done across world rugby and just everything you hear about
Joe Schmidt. He's a rugby man through and through. He
lives and breeds it and he clearly knows the game
inside out. You look at someone like Sawayne Smith, who
obviously was just a brilliant mind, and Joe Schmitt seems
to fit into that kind of kind of mold. We
(03:26):
obviously know that, you know, he had his time with
the All Blacks and he's gone to Australia, but he
does really want to be in New Zealand in terms
of his family and that kind of thing. If he's
back here, how does he fit into an All Black situation?
Perhaps he doesn't, we know. With when Scott Robertson came
on board, they tried to get those two guys to
work together and what we sort of heard was that
(03:46):
perhaps Joe Schmitt wasn't quite as comfortable with that. So
whether it's that or Elliot alluded to the Black Ferns.
You know they've got a World Cup coming up this year.
A great mind like that, someone who's brilliant behind the
intricacies of the game. Maybe he's a perfect man if
you can get him on board in a in a
with the Black Fans the.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Year which which which Wayne Smith did. So yeah, that
once again there's there's that storyline. The new professor is
Joe Schmidt.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
What do you think, Mack?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I think it's it's incredibly important Andrew where we have
so much intellectual property in terms of coaching rugby coaching
going overseas and understandably so to Europe because the money's
there in Japan, because the money is there. Here's a situation,
as Clay outline there where this is a coach who
wants to be in New Zealand because of family reasons
that we need to make the most of his geographical
(04:29):
position within the country and whether you slice it up
and get him to work with the Black Fans. But
how about the All Black sevens, for example, the men's
team who struggled last year, or just as a mentor
a consultant to our six super rugby teams here in
New Zealand. I think that'd be stupid not to pick
up the phone.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
New Zealand Rugby, Nick Burley and Clay Wilson is a
huddle today. We're back in a few moments time league
and golf and all sorts still to come here on
New schalksb.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Sotheby's International Realty the
marketing of your home.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
All right, it is now ten minutes to six. Claiy
Wilson and Nick Buley on the sports huddle. We have
a Man of pacifica bid for a second NRL team
in Auckland. Couple of issues there can Orkan support another
sporting franchise and the other issue is well, actually I'm
just going to go straight to Nick Beuley because you'll
be heartbroken. The South I Other missed out. Three teams
in the South Island missed out. So you'll be sitting
(05:24):
there going well, there's no way another team in Orcland's
going to get it or.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Missed out for now, I should say Andrew, it's a
very slow moving beast, this NRL expansion. And there's someone
who's sort of covered those three christ Church Consortium or
group of business people over the last out of twelve
to eighteen months. Yeah, it's very much a slow moving beast.
But look what the point you were making there around
can they survive in a market like Auckland. You think
(05:51):
Blues Warriors break is Auckland FC and Maana Pacifica the
Super Rugby team and I think you've just got to
go knock on the door at Maana Pacifica understand how
tough it has been for them to survive and be
where they are at the start line for this edition
of Super Rugby. So look, I quite I like the
romantic idea given the amount of Pacifica players in the NRL.
(06:13):
I think something upwards of forty percent of men's players
in the NRAL are of some sort of Pacific Pacifica descent.
But the bottom line is it is not a cheap exercise.
And you look at the crowds and population and the
stadia issues. I just, I honestly don't think it will work.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That's a funny thing, Clay. After all the talk that
Auckland's has too many stadia, we seem to not have enough.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, it's funny you talk about stadiums, because that's what
I started to sort of pop into my mind when
I've thought about this Man PACIFICA team. It's a bit
like the stadium issue because of well, because it's so
slow moving, it's sort of hard to really get your
hopes up too much or sort of invest too much
in something like this because the NRL really aren't haven't
shown a ton of interest even in those in those
(06:59):
christ consortiums. So I know they say they've been speaking
to the NRL, but you know, the NRAL until they
come out publicly and sort of offer up something in
terms of neck another New Zealand franchise at all. But yes,
obviously it's going to make sense financially and where do
those corporate sponsors come from? Do they have to go
to go elsewhere? And with my Wana Pacifica obviously there's
(07:20):
a large Pacifica base in that team. But in the
NRAL Rugby League it's slightly different. As Nick alluded to,
there's already so many Pacifica players playing in this competition,
so that kind of pathway does exist for them at
the top level. So whether it would work in rugby league,
I'm not sure. The romanticism of it is there. Of course,
(07:40):
it would be great to have a Pacific team. But
I think we're a long way between sort of the idea,
the sort of bid now in any kind of reality
down the road and.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Do you finally talk about something that does not involve
an oval ball. The TV and Z is to air
live golf. Okay, Now, live golf gets some funny old
pressed because it's sounding backed and it's called sports washing.
And should our national broadcaster owned by the state be
getting into bed with a competition owned by Saudi Arabia?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Nick, I think we're drawing quite a long bow these
days when you look deep down at where money comes
from in the grandest scheme of sport. Are we now
going to say that next week when Joseph Parker fights
for another world heavyweight title in Saudi Arabia. TVNSD aren't
able to air any preview review stories on their sports
(08:31):
news look. Liv golf exists, and there has been controversy
around it, of course, but this is the somewhat unfortunate
reality of the situation that that is where the money
is being pumped into sport at the minute on a
global stage, and we just have to accept it. I
don't have an issue with it. I think we're getting
too far in the weeds if we're going to start
(08:53):
having issues with it, Clay, you agree.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, I think so. Next, so right that if you
start diving into where money comes from from, not just
for sporting things, but for any kind of ventures around
the world these days, you're probably going to start winding
around some pretty murky corners. And it is, as he says,
are really an unfortunate reality for those people who you know,
I'm certainly not a geopolitical expert by any and I
(09:17):
work in sports, in strictly sports. But look, obviously that
that issue has existed and it's always going to hang
over these sports that are getting Saudi money pumped into them.
But you are drawing quite a long bow to start saying, well,
you know TVZ can't can't screen a golf tournament, aren't you.
(09:39):
So yeah, it's a tough it's a tough one. It's
a very complicated one. But at this stage, I think,
you know, if they can get a hold of something
like that, people are people in this country are going
to watch it. And the stage that it is.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
The golf is good, and that comes down to it.
I was I was thinking I could ask you about
the top one hundred highest paid sports people in the
world are all men. But you are all men, and
I don't want you to get into any trouble and
or broadcasting standards complain to or anything like that. So
I'm going to leave it there. I thank you, bye
bye now and Nick Burley and Clay Wilson.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
The Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Southebeast International Realty,
local and global exposure like no other.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
There's been a talk about restoration and restoring the manner
and the significance of the Crusader image.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Inescapable factor is that Inios and the owner of Inios
are reasonably wealthy. They won't have taken this action lightly.
They will have looked at all of the options, including
the cost of legal.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
The worries have been abound thirty years now.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
You know what we believe is another team in Auton
is only going to lift the game and we.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Would hope toy hey for the sports huddle we've got
Nick Burley News Talks MB Canterbury Sports Reader and Clay
Wilson News Talks MB sport News Directed together. Gentlemen, good
evening to you, Andrew. All right, Andrew Hey, Clay and
the Crusaders do better.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Not with thirteen or fourteen injuries that Nick reported to
us during the week after we came back from training.
It seems like a like a hard ask. I think,
you know, you'd say their prospects look perhaps a little
bit bit of this year with a couple of a
couple of faces back, but starting the season with such
a big casualty board as it's pretty tough going and
you've got the Hurricanes going down there, who have a
(01:23):
pretty good roster, and you'd have to think are going
to be somewhere in the max. But probably the man
to really ask about that as our Canterbury sportsman like himself.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I was about to say, Nick, Billy, has your boss
actually stolen all your talking points or what else? Would
too late to say? You are you've been there and
look I've just had mister Mansbridge actually come on and
say these are fit and healthy men. You know they
can it's not too hard. They've got fourteen injuries and
they haven't even played a game.
Speaker 5 (01:45):
Yeah, look I found that comment. I think what to
help out my friend Colin Mansbridge there what he was
probably suggesting, it's compared to last year in terms of
the type of player that they're without. If we look
at last year, which was a bit of a basket
case by the end of it, no Will Jordan and
all Scott Barrett played four games to Mighty Williams was
out a long time. Cody Taylor had a non playing
(02:05):
sabbatical ridden into his contract. These are guys who are
there outside of Cody Taylor's got a wee hamstrings train,
but they're there tonight, Will Jordan, you know Scott Barrett
that they're going to make a huge difference to this team,
and rightly or wrongly, in terms of talking about attrition
throughout the season, a large part of the success is
what players you do have available over a competition which
(02:26):
spans the best part of four months. So look, I
think the Crusaders are in a much better position. Pretty
Much everything that possibly could have gone wrong last year
did go wrong, and I do suspect that they'll be
a lot better this year. Do I think they can win?
I think it's the Blues and the Chiefs to lose personally,
but I think they'll be there at the business end
of the season.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Because they are playing tomorrow in a replay of the final,
and that'll be good. A final rugby question, Joe Schmidt
abandoned by Australia or no? Or did he know he
abandoned Australia, which is actually must be heartbreaking for Australia.
But here's the thing. We can we take him up
in some role or another with the All Blacks all
with the New zeand Rugby Clay Well.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Another of our steam College, Eliot Smith, made this point
during his column for The Herald and I and I,
you know, you have to look at what Joe Schmitt's
done across world rugby and just everything you hear about
Joe Schmidt. He's a rugby man through and through. He
lives and breeds it and he clearly knows the game
inside out. You look at someone like Sawayne Smith, who
obviously was just a brilliant mind, and Joe Schmitt seems
to fit into that kind of kind of mold. We
(03:26):
obviously know that, you know, he had his time with
the All Blacks and he's gone to Australia, but he
does really want to be in New Zealand in terms
of his family and that kind of thing. If he's
back here, how does he fit into an All Black situation?
Perhaps he doesn't, we know. With when Scott Robertson came
on board, they tried to get those two guys to
work together and what we sort of heard was that
(03:46):
perhaps Joe Schmitt wasn't quite as comfortable with that. So
whether it's that or Elliot alluded to the Black Ferns.
You know they've got a World Cup coming up this year.
A great mind like that, someone who's brilliant behind the
intricacies of the game. Maybe he's a perfect man if
you can get him on board in a in a
with the Black Fans the.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Year which which which Wayne Smith did. So yeah, that
once again there's there's that storyline. The new professor is
Joe Schmidt.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
What do you think?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
What do you think, Mack?
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I think it's it's incredibly important Andrew where we have
so much intellectual property in terms of coaching rugby coaching
going overseas and understandably so to Europe because the money's
there in Japan, because the money is there. Here's a situation,
as Clay outline there where this is a coach who
wants to be in New Zealand because of family reasons
that we need to make the most of his geographical
(04:29):
position within the country and whether you slice it up
and get him to work with the Black Fans. But
how about the All Black sevens, for example, the men's
team who struggled last year, or just as a mentor
a consultant to our six super rugby teams here in
New Zealand. I think that'd be stupid not to pick
up the phone.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
New Zealand Rugby, Nick Burley and Clay Wilson is a
huddle today. We're back in a few moments time league
and golf and all sorts still to come here on
New schalksb.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Friday Sports Huddle with New Zealand Sotheby's International Realty the
marketing of your home.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
All right, it is now ten minutes to six. Claiy
Wilson and Nick Buley on the sports huddle. We have
a Man of pacifica bid for a second NRL team
in Auckland. Couple of issues there can Orkan support another
sporting franchise and the other issue is well, actually I'm
just going to go straight to Nick Beuley because you'll
be heartbroken. The South I Other missed out. Three teams
in the South Island missed out. So you'll be sitting
(05:24):
there going well, there's no way another team in Orcland's
going to get it or.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Missed out for now, I should say Andrew, it's a
very slow moving beast, this NRL expansion. And there's someone
who's sort of covered those three christ Church Consortium or
group of business people over the last out of twelve
to eighteen months. Yeah, it's very much a slow moving beast.
But look what the point you were making there around
can they survive in a market like Auckland. You think
(05:51):
Blues Warriors break is Auckland FC and Maana Pacifica the
Super Rugby team and I think you've just got to
go knock on the door at Maana Pacifica understand how
tough it has been for them to survive and be
where they are at the start line for this edition
of Super Rugby. So look, I quite I like the
romantic idea given the amount of Pacifica players in the NRL.
(06:13):
I think something upwards of forty percent of men's players
in the NRAL are of some sort of Pacific Pacifica descent.
But the bottom line is it is not a cheap exercise.
And you look at the crowds and population and the
stadia issues. I just, I honestly don't think it will work.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
That's a funny thing, Clay. After all the talk that
Auckland's has too many stadia, we seem to not have enough.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, it's funny you talk about stadiums, because that's what
I started to sort of pop into my mind when
I've thought about this Man PACIFICA team. It's a bit
like the stadium issue because of well, because it's so
slow moving, it's sort of hard to really get your
hopes up too much or sort of invest too much
in something like this because the NRL really aren't haven't
shown a ton of interest even in those in those
(06:59):
christ consortiums. So I know they say they've been speaking
to the NRL, but you know, the NRAL until they
come out publicly and sort of offer up something in
terms of neck another New Zealand franchise at all. But yes,
obviously it's going to make sense financially and where do
those corporate sponsors come from? Do they have to go
to go elsewhere? And with my Wana Pacifica obviously there's
(07:20):
a large Pacifica base in that team. But in the
NRAL Rugby League it's slightly different. As Nick alluded to,
there's already so many Pacifica players playing in this competition,
so that kind of pathway does exist for them at
the top level. So whether it would work in rugby league,
I'm not sure. The romanticism of it is there. Of course,
(07:40):
it would be great to have a Pacific team. But
I think we're a long way between sort of the idea,
the sort of bid now in any kind of reality
down the road and.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Do you finally talk about something that does not involve
an oval ball. The TV and Z is to air
live golf. Okay, Now, live golf gets some funny old
pressed because it's sounding backed and it's called sports washing.
And should our national broadcaster owned by the state be
getting into bed with a competition owned by Saudi Arabia?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Nick, I think we're drawing quite a long bow these
days when you look deep down at where money comes
from in the grandest scheme of sport. Are we now
going to say that next week when Joseph Parker fights
for another world heavyweight title in Saudi Arabia. TVNSD aren't
able to air any preview review stories on their sports
(08:31):
news look. Liv golf exists, and there has been controversy
around it, of course, but this is the somewhat unfortunate
reality of the situation that that is where the money
is being pumped into sport at the minute on a
global stage, and we just have to accept it. I
don't have an issue with it. I think we're getting
too far in the weeds if we're going to start
(08:53):
having issues with it, Clay, you agree.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Yeah, I think so. Next, so right that if you
start diving into where money comes from from, not just
for sporting things, but for any kind of ventures around
the world these days, you're probably going to start winding
around some pretty murky corners. And it is, as he says,
are really an unfortunate reality for those people who you know,
I'm certainly not a geopolitical expert by any and I
(09:17):
work in sports, in strictly sports. But look, obviously that
that issue has existed and it's always going to hang
over these sports that are getting Saudi money pumped into them.
But you are drawing quite a long bow to start saying, well,
you know TVZ can't can't screen a golf tournament, aren't you.
(09:39):
So yeah, it's a tough it's a tough one. It's
a very complicated one. But at this stage, I think,
you know, if they can get a hold of something
like that, people are people in this country are going
to watch it. And the stage that it is.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
The golf is good, and that comes down to it.
I was I was thinking I could ask you about
the top one hundred highest paid sports people in the
world are all men. But you are all men, and
I don't want you to get into any trouble and
or broadcasting standards complain to or anything like that. So
I'm going to leave it there. I thank you, bye
bye now and Nick Burley and Clay Wilson.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
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