Barry Soper: Senior Political Correspondent Chinese warships in Australia, Jenny Shipley's comments towards David Seymour, Winston Peters visit to China, and the call to deregister Destiny Church as a charity

Three Chinese warships are docked off the coast of Sydney, why?

Senior Political Correspondent Barry Soper answers that question, discusses Jenny Shipley's comments towards David Seymour, Winston Peters visit to China and the call to deregister Destiny Church as a charity.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Very Soaper is here our senior political correspondent. Very good afternoon,
Good afternoon, Ryan here, We were chatting realizing the time
was sticking on. Well I did you didn't know?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
The formal request has been made to have Destiny Church's
tax free charity status removed. Now, who's doing this.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, it's not the first time it's been done. But
the man that we all know, Phil Dwyford. Wasn't he
known for key we build it?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Honestly, it's Phil Twyford's still there.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yes, it's incredible, isn't it really popping up from time
to time in Parliament?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
You look at you look at the footage of Parliament
you think is this old footage?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes, well he's the tATu MP of course. And it
was in the library there that Destiny Church were disgraceful.
They behaved so badly and kids were intimidated. And you know,
even the status of Destiny in terms of the patches
that they wear on their backs now is being questioned.

(01:01):
They're saying should they be designated as again because they
ride motorbikes on mass they have these big patches on
their back and you know there might be an application
to get them on that list as well, but certainly
a formal application has now been lodged with the Charities Commission.

(01:23):
I think it's called to have their tax free status
as a charity removed now that that would be a
major move because there is dare I say, good work
that is being done by the Destiny Church in terms
of rehabilitating people, and they have done quite a lot

(01:45):
of good work. But it's the case, isn't it with
many charities that you look at the You look at
them and you go why should they be getting tax
free money?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
So I know it's a hard one. Certainly fell's having
a go having crack the Chinese warships. Now I look
at those Chinese warships and I think, yeah, this is
what this is what navies do?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
You know?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
They drive their boats around or sail their boats around,
and we did it to them. And remember last year
and September we sailed through the Taiwan straight alongside Australia,
which threatening. We're not very threatening, but it's for them
it's a very sensitive area. So you know, are they
just it's just tip for tatic.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Well it's I guess it's the the nature of the
three boats that are actually sailing in this part of
the world. It's one of them is a fairly new
warship and it's capable of so much. It's really I
guess the Chinese showing their force. And when you look
at all the talk about Orcus, I think that's probably

(02:49):
got a lot to do with it. But you'd think
the Chinese would know if they are seen to be threatening,
then it would force us maybe to look more kindly.
You would think at ucust which is seen by some
circles as being anti Chinese, so surely that wouldn't be
the reason. But you'd think it's like gunboat diplomas of

(03:11):
the old days that you'd think that maybe it's a
bit like Mark Brown and the Cocan ands let your
partners know. Maybe you'd think the Chinese should have informed
both Australia and New Zealand that they were sending this
flotilla down this way. They're off the coast of Sydney
at the moment and there's nothing to say they won't

(03:31):
come down to this part of the world. Due to Collins,
the Defense Minister. She says there's nothing by law stopping them,
within the law to do it, but they've never sent
any boats of the seriousness of these boats to this
part of the world before, and I guess that's what
is upsetting both Australia and certain in New Zealand. Winston

(03:55):
Peters is going to be in China next week talking
to his counterpart Foreign Minister in China, so maybe he'll
raise it and bang his fist on the table.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Someone said yesterday were they trying to find the cooks?

Speaker 2 (04:09):
What prospect of fifteen thousand people in the Cork Island?

Speaker 1 (04:15):
The David Seymour. So this is Jenny Shipley on the
Treaty Principal's bill and the process of submitting. She calls
David Seymour a used car salesman.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Yes, very unkind, I thought. But look Jenny was being
her imperior's self and it was interesting watching her before
that Select Committee because she had no notes. She just
spoke off the cuff and actually gave quite a good speech,
but totally opposed the bill and saying that, you know,

(04:45):
the treaty is something that we should be treasury. She
said basically, you know, she had a disdain for this
sort of legislation to even come before the House. But
in terms of the used car salesman. Here's the context
of the comments made by Jenny Shipley.

Speaker 3 (05:06):
I think that the promise of the treaty was profound
and it doesn't need some secondhand car salesman to try
and divert us into some notion that, frankly is not
worthy of the promise of the treaty. And I don't
say that reference in person to the promoter, but rather
how I view trivializing the importance of the intensity of

(05:29):
this relationship. This bill, to me, pushes us back and
uses abstract language like universal humanity. Be careful of the
mischief of people who use these phrases, because usually it
excludes culture and diversity.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah. Well, like Davis Ebo has come back with quite
a good point being called a used car salesman. He said, look,
a lot of us buy use cars, and a lot
of us drive use cars. So is she insulting the
used car fraternity by saying what I mean? I think
he took it on the light that it maybe should
have been taken it.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
She sounded a bit posh, and she's always been very embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
You know where she was born. She was born in
the nursing home and Gore we both shared the nursing home.
Jenny and I we were in the next personet to
each other. Believe that the same time, same year, same
within days of each other, our mothers shared the nursing home.

(06:30):
I should have been the prime minister. She should have
been the political.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Commentary because can you imagine her commentating on politics? Profound?

Speaker 2 (06:40):
That's what comes out of Gore. Ryan.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
We wouldn't stomach that. Thank you for it.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
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