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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
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that I could be one of the best in the world.
And this is to prove for myself that I belong
at the top. So let's get it on. Let's bang
bang bang.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
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comfortable positions, failing a lot, and ultimately you know you
will make it because that resilience that you'll build up
will be just invaluable.
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That's it.
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Speaker 1 (00:36):
Zealand win this match convincingly by sixty runs.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Spen a polished performance.
Speaker 6 (00:43):
You're on News Talks B It's time for the Sports
Huddled Jim Kay's and Darcy Vudigraver here. Good evening, gentlemen,
Good evening.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Good to have you guys on mister Kay's. Hello, Hello, Ryan, Hello.
Speaker 6 (00:54):
Hello Hello. Right, so we've obviously had a fantastic opening
weekend for Super Rugby. Jim will start with you, are
you expecting the same this weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well, I hope the Blues get up.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's not that fantastic open the weekend rhyme when.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
The Blues don't win. But yeah, look, it was a
fantastic weekend. You're right, they got the drawer right.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
There were some great derbies first up, and there are
some great derbies again tonight Chiefs versus Crusaders, and then.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
And then obviously you've got the heightened versus the Blues.
So yeah, getting the draw right is a big part
of it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
And having typed, I think last week the widest gap
in margin was eleven points, so you know that says
something about it too. So there's a few things that
are working in there and super AGCM to get off
to a really exciting start and let's hope it continues.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
This weekend would have been more exciting if the Blues
hadn't decided to stop playing in the second half of
that game, though, Jim, that was quite upsetting from a
Blues point of view, Like I was there watching it
in the so called bomb squad that got let loose
and look the chief through Damie McKenzie, they just didn't
give any opportunity or option for the Blues. That was
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quite overpowering, quite overwhelming looking at that. But I think
what we like about the next round. You mentioned the
Derby's their key to get eyeballs on screens and backsides
on seat. That's how you want to start things off.
And we look at the two of the unbeaten teams
from last weekend, the Crusaders, and I'm sure no one
really saw that one coming. Least you died in the
wall fan like I am up against the Chiefs and
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that rivalry that they've got is already rigid, it's already
quite intense. But both unbeaten coming together to try and
go till on the bounce that's got so much on it.
That's a great way to get underway in the weekend.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
He starts, and yeah, a couple of hours away, Hey,
Phil Gifford has done a piece which is I found
quite interesting talking about the tactical subs. And I want
to know what you think, Jim, because I think if
are there eight swaps you can do at the moment
he says, this should be none. Is that an extreme
view or are you with him?
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I'm kind of with him.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I think that what Rugby has missed in the last
or since the game, we're professional and the athletic got bigger, stronger,
faster is fatigue. So when you don't have fatigue, particularly
in the last twenty minutes, you don't have the gaps
opening up, the spaces opening up, those sorts of things.
So perhaps what Filler's alluding to there is the need
to bring fatigue back into the game because the field
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is a lot smaller now with the bigger, stronger, faster,
fitter athlete and I'm one hundred percent behind them in
that regard. If there is a way that you could
limit the amount of people that come on to the
field to the subs, then that would be great. The
problem is how do you do that because coaches are
cunning and they'll just say that people are injured. So
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you want to keep it legal, you want to keep.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
It it's limiting, it's not eradicating, because yes, they're fatigue
issue was all well and good, and you understand that
these guys get destroyed, but all sorts of big professional
scene and they need to have a lot of players
on board. They need to keep people employed, so they
want to keep people in the game, so they want
to able to row take through. I think the trick around
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this is more like a yes, well, the different parts
of the team in the front row and the locking
and the loose forwards and sign and so forth. They
can turn those over reasonably rapidly. But Jim, it comes
to me it becomes more like chess, and the fact
that it means it's a group game. We've got to
understand when to use them, how to use it, what
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is the best opportunity, second guess or opposition. So it's
had more of a coaching year cerebral touch.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
But if you're a fan, if you're and everything should
be decided around the fan. Everything should be fan centric.
If you're fan centric.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
What do you want? You want exciting finishers, You want
athletes who have to be superbly fit and have to
be able to hang in there till the end. I
just think that all sports, and rugby in particular, should
put the fan at the center of every decision that
they make. And if it's in the fans interest to
have fewer then I think go for it.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
But fatigue games for reckless, messy football. At the game's
a good game.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
We're gonna go to the break, darcys, We're gonna go
to the break. We'll come back in just a second.
Speaking of tactical subs.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
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Speaker 6 (05:18):
Jim Kays and Darcy Waldgrave on the Sports Huddle tonight.
Welcome back, guys. Joe Parker has just lost his opponent
to illness. Now he's got a new one, Darcy. You
spoke to him last night, but this was just before
it was all announced.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
It all went down, sounded all pretty good, and then
I wake up in the morning and as Pecoli's in
there because Dubois pulled a sickie. There's not really any
details about what happened. It is more sinister underlying thought
to why he pulled a sicki and what's lined up
from next. But that's unfounded, so I won't move into that.
But a guy Pecoli, who he's coming up against, He's
from the Congo's Congolese. He's ranking the top five by
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most of these divisions. You get that he's a good Friday.
He's a big man. But what he is Herne has
said he's been in the Congo, he hasn't been doing
a great deal of work and he's likely to get gassed.
He's not exactly the fittest guy in the world. Now,
Joe's fit and Joe's patient now, so he'll take it
a lot longer than I think Martin is comfortable with. Plus,
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and there's the event he's.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Just flown in from the con literally in the last.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Four year, he came for three weeks, right, So there's a.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Bit of an advantage there, Jim. Why, presumably he's been
paid a great sum of money to be there, Joseph Parker,
and this is not a title fight anymore, but presumably
that's why you stay in it, right.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know there's a whole of things
that go that television rights and those sorts of things.
You can't sort of back out of these things easily.
And they're found in a plonan and he's going to
have to step up and fight the guy. I mean,
boxing is shambolic often, isn't.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
It, And this is just this is just another example
of it. But you know, Joe's going to have to
fight this guy.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
And I think the thing for Joseph Parker is, you know,
is he putting his reputation at risk here?
Speaker 4 (07:01):
Like how much of a threat?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Because if you get knocked over by a bloke who's
who's the last minute ringing?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
What does that say?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
He's reading though quite highly in most of these places,
so he's ranked yeah, four five.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
You know, My point is, as you said before, one
guy has been in training and the camp for along time.
The other guy's just stepping off the plane. So you
do put your reputation at risk. You know, obviously I
hope Joseph does well, but it is it is a
significant risk.
Speaker 6 (07:28):
But is that why it comes down to money? Because
someone told me he was being paid ten ten, maybe
twenty twenty million dollars? Is that that's for one fight money?
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Anyway? Look thinking that this way, but you wouldn't be
walking away.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
You could punch me as many times as you like.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Are do you near going to deal with the Saudi
royal family?
Speaker 1 (07:49):
No?
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Sure when we know where that is.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Listen to us three blokes who would never get in
a ring.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Correct, Hey will Young? Should he get in the ring?
Should the black keeps put him in the ring? This
is you know, the batting lineup. He's done so well,
but then you know, what do you do? Darcy?
Speaker 5 (08:07):
Will Young is like Matt Henry. Matt Henry played second
fiddle to our fast bowlers for a long time, and
he performed admirably, and then when his time came, which
has now suddenly he's turned into the spearhead and all
of that work that he's done is now coming to
the fore. I see Will Young very similarly to that.
He's been there as a reserve guy. He comes into
cover voliums, and he comes into cover for revenger, he
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comes into cover people, He creates a lot of runs.
He looks extraordinarily comfortable to the man of born. So
when he does get his chance and there is room,
he will take that. So it might not be this
time around Devin Conway touch and go on the field
not looking one hundred percent happy, And as Dylan Cleaver
pointed out in his Bounced newsletter, it looked like Will
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Young was batting on another surface. He looked imperious.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Jim, here's a question, Oh, I can't even believe going
to say this. When do when do we get to
a point where certain Williamson is the name that we're discussing.
Not for Test cricket, he would be in written in
an ink for any Test cricket eleven. But for the
shorter versions of the game, do we go for the
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people who are more natural, you know, bashes of the
ball than This.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Was often said about him first up about his serat
version game about T twenty one day cricket. I think
you look at his record, Jim Kay's go to your
room and think about what you just said.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I know, I know, I almost feel like I shot
Bambi by saying that.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
So I do apologize. I do apologize to the nation.
But I just wonder, like you know, every every every sport,
every team.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Has succession and turnover, and even the greats Richie mccaud,
Dan Carter, Darryl you know, all sorts of people that
had to step aside. When do we get to a
point where Cain Williamson is a Test cricketer and not
a T twenty or a fifty overs man.
Speaker 5 (09:58):
I'd say that's his decision, no one else's gym.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
Well you've been told, Jim. Hey, thanks guys. I'm just
hoping there's the more streaking this weekend. Just put on
a personal note.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I think you'd get engaged in strolling, and that's what
a brave man does. He gets naked and he walks
casually across the field, not afraid of anyone or anything.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
And players should be allowed to tackle them. Players should
be allowed to tackle you. You an arena of collision.
You should be prepared to get king hit by some
of the biggest, strongest people in the country.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Actually, that might be the thing that puts them off
because you I mean imagine the concussion.
Speaker 5 (10:34):
Well you mean there's a streak of years ago in
a cricket match and he got smacked on the backside
with a bat by one of the Australian bats. I
think it was Green Chapel. I think it was way
back in the day.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
You waked him on the buttet that Simon's has done it,
David gow has done it with a cricket bat.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Really, you'll be right.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Nuted someone with a bat.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Hang on, but maybe that's why you don't get as
many streakers at the cricket They just need a hard nup.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Begitor Patrick two polo to a tackle. That guy wouldn't
come back for seconds?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Would you key for what you say about streakers hardening up?
Speaker 6 (11:06):
Ryan all right, Darcy Jim, thank you. Enjoy the weekend
of sport.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
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