Winston Peters has met with the Chinese Foreign Minister in Beijing, telling his counterpart that New Zealand was not given enough warning about China's recent navy exercises.
Peters says the Cook Islands-China deal was also a topic of discussion in their meeting.
In other meetings, Sir Kier Starmer has met with Donald Trump.
Senior Political Correspondent Barry Soper talks to Ryan Bridge about everything that happened in that meeting, Peters discussion with the Chinese Foreign Minister, Trump's invitation from King Charles, and the Treasury's Cook Straight Ferry deadline.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is quarter to five news Talk ZB, which means
you've got fifteen actually an hour and fifteen minutes if
you've got some fairies you'd like to sell to the government.
Very Soper is here, senior political correspondent.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey Barry, No, you've got an hour and fifteen Actually
it closes at six o'clock. There you go, so you've
got more time. If you want to submit to build
an inter island ferry, then you know you've got an
hour and a quarter now to convince Treasury, who will
then put up a case to the government. Interestingly, the
board Faery Holdings Board. I don't know whether you noticed it.
(00:31):
A couple of weeks ago the membership was announced. Heather
Simpson is on Helen Clark's former chief of START. Yes,
that's right, so there'll be in making decisions in late
March about the best proposal it comes forward now. Winston
Peters of course, as a Minister of Rail and that
(00:52):
was at his behest when Nikola Willis had something ready
to go last December, it was canned. The fair very
contract you remember that the Labor government had negotiated, was
canceled and now they're looking at reparation. This is my high.
Undi Mipu is looking now for some sort of payout clause.
(01:16):
Winston just happens to be in Korea and he's going
to be meeting with this particular company now, dare I
say it, He's like another deal maker that is in
the international news at the moment. But the thing about
Winston's deal, if he can strike one with the contract
that was canceled, we'll never know how much. We say,
no exactly, we don't know how much was outlaid in
(01:38):
the first place. Joy whatever happens Ryan, my view is
that Winston will claim it's a great success. We've saved
hundreds of millions of dollars. But of course the public
will never really know, and they're not likely to get
an argument from Nikola Willis because that's the deal that
coalition partners have. Don't argue you too publicly with each other.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
That's right, and don'nas don't tell basically, yeah exactly. Chinese
say this is fascinating from the Foreign Minister in the
Chinese Foreign Minister in Australia who's come out and basically said, yes,
we were there in your waters, nothing to apologize for,
and we're becoming more thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Is the Chinese ambassador actually forgive me, Yeah, because Winston
don't forget. He's met with the Chinese Foreign Minister in
Beijing and clearly that was discussed, no doubt, and he said,
you know, not only that, the Cork Islands issue was
discussed as well. We won't know publicly, of course, exactly
what was said, but i'd imagine that Winston would say
(02:40):
how disappointed New Zealand was, particularly with this exercise by
three Chinese warships off the coast of Australia and the
Tasman Sea not that far away from New Zealand. But
the Chinese, the ambassador says, they've got nothing to apologize for.
They were operating in international waters. They conducted live firing,
(03:04):
but he said, we don't have to buy international law
give warnings of that. Nevertheless, above airlines had to divert
flights because they were concerned about it. But the Chinese
are not going to apologize. Indeed, what they say is
there'll be more exercises in the Tasman by China, so
they're not going back on that, no doubt. We'll see
(03:27):
more activity in the Taiwanese Straits at some stage.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I'm sure we will. Now the action was all at
the White House and we both watched this press conference, Berry,
and I'm sure you had a similar reaction to me
with Kis Starmer just really laying it on thick.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's amazing, isn't it. That Look I never really knew
kissed kiss Starma, I must say. And you know I
thought he's a labor prime minister, a bit boring, but look,
he's really come in to his eye. He has. He
was sitting so close to Donald Trump and is touching
him on the shoulder on the old occasion, on the
you know, in a friendly sort of a way. But
(04:03):
it was during the meeting, interestingly, that Starmer appealed to
Trump's to Trump to reach a historic peace deal with
the Ukraine, and he said that there can't be peace
that rewards the aggressor. Now that was quite you know, provocative,
I've thought for the British Prime minister to say. But
he flattered and flatted Donald Trump so much that he
(04:26):
could have said anything to the man sitting alongside him.
Of course, in the Oval office, Starmer was most convivial,
and he reached into a suit pocket at one stage
and pulled out a letter and presented the president with
it from King Charles. Trump read it before asking the
(04:47):
British Prime Minister to read a bit from it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Perhaps you'd like to say what that very important paragraph. Yeah,
so this is a letter from his much Dave, the King.
It's an invitation for a second stage visit. This is
really special. This has never happened before. This is unprecedented,
and I think that just symbolizes the strength of the
relationship between us. So this is a very special letter.
(05:12):
I think the last state visit was a tremendous success.
His match, the King, wants to make this even better
than that. So this is this is true story.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Talking about laying on with the trial, I laughed that
you played that Graham about Orcus and Trump not knowing
what it meant. But the other thing was he was
asked whether he thought that Zelinski, who will be meeting
the Ukrainian president later today, asked him whether he thought
he was a dictator, and he replied, did I say that.
(05:44):
I can't believe I said that. He's a memory.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I said earlier, I said Trump is the oratory equivalent
of a bull. He just says anything, and as he's
just demonstrated doesn't know what he's said.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I can't remember, so we can't hold him accountable exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Barry Soper's senior political correspondent here at news Talk zib.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks ITB from four pm weekdays, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
It is quarter to five news Talk ZB, which means
you've got fifteen actually an hour and fifteen minutes if
you've got some fairies you'd like to sell to the government.
Very Soper is here, senior political correspondent.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hey Barry, No, you've got an hour and fifteen Actually
it closes at six o'clock. There you go, so you've
got more time. If you want to submit to build
an inter island ferry, then you know you've got an
hour and a quarter now to convince Treasury, who will
then put up a case to the government. Interestingly, the
board Faery Holdings Board. I don't know whether you noticed it.
(00:31):
A couple of weeks ago the membership was announced. Heather
Simpson is on Helen Clark's former chief of START. Yes,
that's right, so there'll be in making decisions in late
March about the best proposal it comes forward now. Winston
Peters of course, as a Minister of Rail and that
(00:52):
was at his behest when Nikola Willis had something ready
to go last December, it was canned. The fair very
contract you remember that the Labor government had negotiated, was
canceled and now they're looking at reparation. This is my high.
Undi Mipu is looking now for some sort of payout clause.
(01:16):
Winston just happens to be in Korea and he's going
to be meeting with this particular company now, dare I
say it, He's like another deal maker that is in
the international news at the moment. But the thing about
Winston's deal, if he can strike one with the contract
that was canceled, we'll never know how much. We say,
no exactly, we don't know how much was outlaid in
(01:38):
the first place. Joy whatever happens Ryan, my view is
that Winston will claim it's a great success. We've saved
hundreds of millions of dollars. But of course the public
will never really know, and they're not likely to get
an argument from Nikola Willis because that's the deal that
coalition partners have. Don't argue you too publicly with each other.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
That's right, and don'nas don't tell basically, yeah exactly. Chinese
say this is fascinating from the Foreign Minister in the
Chinese Foreign Minister in Australia who's come out and basically said, yes,
we were there in your waters, nothing to apologize for,
and we're becoming more thank you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Is the Chinese ambassador actually forgive me, Yeah, because Winston
don't forget. He's met with the Chinese Foreign Minister in
Beijing and clearly that was discussed, no doubt, and he said,
you know, not only that, the Cork Islands issue was
discussed as well. We won't know publicly, of course, exactly
what was said, but i'd imagine that Winston would say
(02:40):
how disappointed New Zealand was, particularly with this exercise by
three Chinese warships off the coast of Australia and the
Tasman Sea not that far away from New Zealand. But
the Chinese, the ambassador says, they've got nothing to apologize for.
They were operating in international waters. They conducted live firing,
(03:04):
but he said, we don't have to buy international law
give warnings of that. Nevertheless, above airlines had to divert
flights because they were concerned about it. But the Chinese
are not going to apologize. Indeed, what they say is
there'll be more exercises in the Tasman by China, so
they're not going back on that, no doubt. We'll see
(03:27):
more activity in the Taiwanese Straits at some stage.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I'm sure we will. Now the action was all at
the White House and we both watched this press conference, Berry,
and I'm sure you had a similar reaction to me
with Kis Starmer just really laying it on thick.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It's amazing, isn't it. That Look I never really knew
kissed kiss Starma, I must say. And you know I
thought he's a labor prime minister, a bit boring, but look,
he's really come in to his eye. He has. He
was sitting so close to Donald Trump and is touching
him on the shoulder on the old occasion, on the
you know, in a friendly sort of a way. But
(04:03):
it was during the meeting, interestingly, that Starmer appealed to
Trump's to Trump to reach a historic peace deal with
the Ukraine, and he said that there can't be peace
that rewards the aggressor. Now that was quite you know, provocative,
I've thought for the British Prime minister to say. But
he flattered and flatted Donald Trump so much that he
(04:26):
could have said anything to the man sitting alongside him.
Of course, in the Oval office, Starmer was most convivial,
and he reached into a suit pocket at one stage
and pulled out a letter and presented the president with
it from King Charles. Trump read it before asking the
(04:47):
British Prime Minister to read a bit from it.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Perhaps you'd like to say what that very important paragraph. Yeah,
so this is a letter from his much Dave, the King.
It's an invitation for a second stage visit. This is
really special. This has never happened before. This is unprecedented,
and I think that just symbolizes the strength of the
relationship between us. So this is a very special letter.
(05:12):
I think the last state visit was a tremendous success.
His match, the King, wants to make this even better
than that. So this is this is true story.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Talking about laying on with the trial, I laughed that
you played that Graham about Orcus and Trump not knowing
what it meant. But the other thing was he was
asked whether he thought that Zelinski, who will be meeting
the Ukrainian president later today, asked him whether he thought
he was a dictator, and he replied, did I say that.
(05:44):
I can't believe I said that. He's a memory.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
I said earlier, I said Trump is the oratory equivalent
of a bull. He just says anything, and as he's
just demonstrated doesn't know what he's said.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I can't remember, so we can't hold him accountable exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Barry Soper's senior political correspondent here at news Talk zib.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news Talks ITB from four pm weekdays, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
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