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March 3, 2025 2 mins

There's belief from some that Europe can fill the gaps in support for Ukraine.

The US is pausing all military aid to the country - including weapons in transit and waiting in Poland. 

The Presidents of America and Ukraine had a heated exchange at the White House over the weekend.

Former US Navy Senior Chief Malcolm Nance says only 20 percent of weapons and equipment in Ukraine come from the US.

"Where they will lack, initially, will be some of the more advanced technologies - but Europe can backfill all of that." 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Trump's hit pools on military aid to Ukraine. The White
House says the pools could be lifted as Zelensky demonstrates
quote a new commitment to negotiations to end the war
in Ukraine. Malcolm Nance's intelligence and foreign policy analyst. He's
a former US Navy senior Petty office. He's also fought
on the front lines in Ukraine. And he's with me now, Malcolm, Hello, good,

(00:23):
good to be here.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
So this is quite a big deal. Yeah, it's a
very big deal. What's happening in the United States is
nothing short of international chaos. And you know, I'm speaking
to you as an American citizen, former US military, but
I'm also a former Ukrainian Army legionnaire. And you know

(00:45):
I served with people from New Zealand, including one who
was killed in twenty twenty three in combat. And so
to see the United States withdraw support so Donald Trump
could live out some fantasy to get the Nobel Prize
is an absolute disgrace.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
What will the Ukrainians do without that support.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
I just want to put something into perspective for you.
Ukraine has been fighting since twenty fourteen without the full
support of the United States and right now, US support
is twenty percent of the hard weapons that they're getting
from that support their combat mission against Russia. The kind

(01:27):
of weapons and equipment they were getting from the United
States can be backseled by Europe. We've already seen the
European Alliance come together to give them the hard artillery
shells that they need. Germany's Rhine Mattal has just finished
a factory in Ukraine that can produce a million shells
a year. Ukraine has radically changed warfare with their own

(01:52):
indigenous homemade drones that are flown by fiber optics so
they can't be jammed. Where they will black initially will
be some of the more advanced technologies, you know, some
of the missiles that are used in Hemar multiple rocket
system replacing damaged Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and their supplies.

(02:15):
But Europe can backfill all of that too. Ukraine can
will not lose this war because they are losing America's support.
America is losing because of the Trump regime walking away
from freedom, liberty, and democracy for a country that is
on the front line against patholitarianism.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
All right, Malcolm, thank you for that perspective. Malcolm Nancy's
and intelligence foreign policy policy analyst. Former US Navy senior
pity officer obviously fought in Ukraine alongside a New Zealand
soldier he mentions in the interview.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
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