The US vice-president is back-pedalling over a comment he made - thought to be in relation to key allies, the UK and France.
JD Vance said a US stake in Ukraine's economy is a better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from 'some random country' that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years.
UK correspondent Gavin Grey says Vance has denied this statement was targeted - but didn't elaborate which countries he was referring to.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sixteen away from seven Ryan, so glad adrianaor is gone.
He was a disaster with Robertson interfering as well. It
was more of a puppet's best news ever, says Linda,
and another here says, this is about the astronauts who
was stuck in space. They are going to be coming
home and will be replaced by two new astronauts, one
of whom is American, the other is Russian. And I
(00:21):
like this text from Paul that just says, maybe we
should send mister Trump and mister peterin up there together.
That would sort the whole thing out, wouldn't it. That
would solve the world's problems. Let's go to Gavin Gray.
He's a UK and NEK correspondent, Gavin Good Evening.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Good evening, Ryn. It would be solved in a day,
wouldn't they.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hey, the Vice President in the United States backtracking on
these comments he made about potential involvement of the international
forces to police APPEACE deal in Ukraine. How's that going
down over there?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Really really, as you can imagine, very badly. Lots of
criticism here, and he has since JD. Vance backtracked on
some of those comments. So His comments actually were that
the having a US stake in the Ukraine economy was
quote better security guarantee than twenty thousand troops from some
random country that hasn't fought a war in thirty to
(01:15):
forty years.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Who was he talking about, Well, only the UK and
France have offered to put boots on the ground in
Ukraine as part of a peace deal, so one assumes
he was talking about them. And that led, of course
to plenty of people here referring to the mission in
Afghanistan with America, the mission in Iraq with America, and
plenty of people which said it was incredibly disrespectful of
(01:39):
British forces the same sort of said from France. And
now Jdvans and said, well, no, no, I never said it
was Britain or France. I didn't mention those countries.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But who else could he have referred to? Well, we
don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
He didn't answer that, So yeah, a lot of upset
here caused by that comment.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I meanwhile, there some you guys head over in London
with the French and and all sorts of European leaders
intra die. Actually Trump's kind of headed poke at that too.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, just saying, you know, gosh, is that all they
can do? What a time to say that, You know,
when we're going to have a get together and talk
about more war was his comment, When he should be
we we should be trying to talk about peace.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So he's absolutely slammed it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And as the UK was proudly announcing a four point
plan to guarantee Ukraine's defense in the event of a
peace deal, the US President said, in my quote, probably
not a great statement to have made in terms of
a show of strength against Russia.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What are they thinking?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Again, didn't elaborate on that, And we don't know why
this suddenly came out. There is this sort of tendency,
I think, as was shown by J. D Vance in
that earlier quick answer, that they just simply shoot from
the hip a little bit and once or twice that's
landing them into hot water.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Now you're six, so we're all in five eyes together, right,
and I six is in there with a gathering intelligence
foreign intelligence. Your inspy agency is actually a little bit
worried about sharing that intelligence now with the United States
because Trump's in power.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, I don't think we're the only ones now.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
There hasn't been a formal announcement about this, But in
the last few hours, Finland's intelligence service called SUPO has
said it is closely watching developments.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
In the Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Why well, because you know, first of all, President Trump
has cozied up to Putin. Secondly, he has stopped his
administration's offensive cyber operations against Russia. And lastly, the administration
already is accused of mishandling sensitive data that's supposed to
be secret by actually announcing it on social media, is
(03:49):
the allegation. So that's why many in the Five Eyes
are very, very wary about what's happening. I think, to
be fair ram when any new leader gets in, there's
a certain element of app hension, maybe a certain element
of not giving everything over at the start that you know.
But I think definitely we're sensing among those different security
intelligence organizations across Australia and New Zealand, amongst the Fire Eyes,
(04:14):
that this is going to be something that all of
those governments and organizations are reviewing carefully, fearing that any
information they give may suddenly be blurted out on social
media or in.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
An interview, which is an absolutely fear concern to have.
The other instinct thing course, is whether the American intelligence
community actually hands over all of the intel to the
president on the same basis. Now, tell me about these migrants.
They were trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea and they
have been rescued, which is fantastic news. That they found
(04:45):
themselves on an oil platform.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So it's just off the coast of Tunisia, so they
haven't got terribly far, and they decided to get onto
this oil platform because I think their boat was very
sort of poorly maintained.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
As usual, and they feared drowning.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So although one personal platform has died when they managed
to scramble or board, they are now on a non
governmental organization boat called the Sea Watch. It says it's
rescued all thirty two remaining from this platform. However, although
they're being looked after aboard the Aurora ship, no country
(05:27):
nearby has yet agreed to let the ship dock safely. So,
in other words, no European countries intervened despite what the
ship's owners are saying is an imminent emergency and the
fact that the people are stranded in international waters. So
they are looking at Malta perhaps as being the place
(05:49):
that should take them on run because this happened within
international waters, but within the Maltese search and rescue zone.
And I think it really plays again into this thing
at the moment which immigration is such a hot topic
here in Europe and all those attacks as well that
we've seen in Germany by asylum seekers and by those
(06:11):
who come from Afghanistan and other countries that quite frankly,
people are going to be very very reluctant countries, very
reluctant to take on board these thirty two even though
it is a relatively small figure.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Absolutely, Gevin, thank you very much for that. Gvin Gray,
UK europe Correspondent with US. Time is nine minutes away
from seven. You're on News Talks. It'd be that four
year parliamentary term bill pasted its first reading today and
there's another one related to it that's coming. I'll tell
you more about that. Nick.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
For more from hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to
News Talks.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
Sixteen away from seven Ryan, so glad adrianaor is gone.
He was a disaster with Robertson interfering as well. It
was more of a puppet's best news ever, says Linda,
and another here says, this is about the astronauts who
was stuck in space. They are going to be coming
home and will be replaced by two new astronauts, one
of whom is American, the other is Russian. And I
(00:21):
like this text from Paul that just says, maybe we
should send mister Trump and mister peterin up there together.
That would sort the whole thing out, wouldn't it. That
would solve the world's problems. Let's go to Gavin Gray.
He's a UK and NEK correspondent, Gavin Good Evening.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Good evening, Ryn. It would be solved in a day,
wouldn't they.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Hey, the Vice President in the United States backtracking on
these comments he made about potential involvement of the international
forces to police APPEACE deal in Ukraine. How's that going
down over there?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Really really, as you can imagine, very badly. Lots of
criticism here, and he has since JD. Vance backtracked on
some of those comments. So His comments actually were that
the having a US stake in the Ukraine economy was
quote better security guarantee than twenty thousand troops from some
random country that hasn't fought a war in thirty to
(01:15):
forty years.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Now.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Who was he talking about, Well, only the UK and
France have offered to put boots on the ground in
Ukraine as part of a peace deal, so one assumes
he was talking about them. And that led, of course
to plenty of people here referring to the mission in
Afghanistan with America, the mission in Iraq with America, and
plenty of people which said it was incredibly disrespectful of
(01:39):
British forces the same sort of said from France. And
now Jdvans and said, well, no, no, I never said it
was Britain or France. I didn't mention those countries.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
But who else could he have referred to? Well, we
don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
He didn't answer that, So yeah, a lot of upset
here caused by that comment.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I meanwhile, there some you guys head over in London
with the French and and all sorts of European leaders
intra die. Actually Trump's kind of headed poke at that too.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, just saying, you know, gosh, is that all they
can do? What a time to say that, You know,
when we're going to have a get together and talk
about more war was his comment, When he should be
we we should be trying to talk about peace.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
So he's absolutely slammed it.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And as the UK was proudly announcing a four point
plan to guarantee Ukraine's defense in the event of a
peace deal, the US President said, in my quote, probably
not a great statement to have made in terms of
a show of strength against Russia.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
What are they thinking?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Again, didn't elaborate on that, And we don't know why
this suddenly came out. There is this sort of tendency,
I think, as was shown by J. D Vance in
that earlier quick answer, that they just simply shoot from
the hip a little bit and once or twice that's
landing them into hot water.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Now you're six, so we're all in five eyes together, right,
and I six is in there with a gathering intelligence
foreign intelligence. Your inspy agency is actually a little bit
worried about sharing that intelligence now with the United States
because Trump's in power.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Yeah, I don't think we're the only ones now.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
There hasn't been a formal announcement about this, But in
the last few hours, Finland's intelligence service called SUPO has
said it is closely watching developments.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
In the Trump administration.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Why well, because you know, first of all, President Trump
has cozied up to Putin. Secondly, he has stopped his
administration's offensive cyber operations against Russia. And lastly, the administration
already is accused of mishandling sensitive data that's supposed to
be secret by actually announcing it on social media, is
(03:49):
the allegation. So that's why many in the Five Eyes
are very, very wary about what's happening. I think, to
be fair ram when any new leader gets in, there's
a certain element of app hension, maybe a certain element
of not giving everything over at the start that you know.
But I think definitely we're sensing among those different security
intelligence organizations across Australia and New Zealand, amongst the Fire Eyes,
(04:14):
that this is going to be something that all of
those governments and organizations are reviewing carefully, fearing that any
information they give may suddenly be blurted out on social
media or in.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
An interview, which is an absolutely fear concern to have.
The other instinct thing course, is whether the American intelligence
community actually hands over all of the intel to the
president on the same basis. Now, tell me about these migrants.
They were trying to cross the Mediterranean Sea and they
have been rescued, which is fantastic news. That they found
(04:45):
themselves on an oil platform.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yes, that's right.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So it's just off the coast of Tunisia, so they
haven't got terribly far, and they decided to get onto
this oil platform because I think their boat was very
sort of poorly maintained.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
As usual, and they feared drowning.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
So although one personal platform has died when they managed
to scramble or board, they are now on a non
governmental organization boat called the Sea Watch. It says it's
rescued all thirty two remaining from this platform. However, although
they're being looked after aboard the Aurora ship, no country
(05:27):
nearby has yet agreed to let the ship dock safely. So,
in other words, no European countries intervened despite what the
ship's owners are saying is an imminent emergency and the
fact that the people are stranded in international waters. So
they are looking at Malta perhaps as being the place
(05:49):
that should take them on run because this happened within
international waters, but within the Maltese search and rescue zone.
And I think it really plays again into this thing
at the moment which immigration is such a hot topic
here in Europe and all those attacks as well that
we've seen in Germany by asylum seekers and by those
(06:11):
who come from Afghanistan and other countries that quite frankly,
people are going to be very very reluctant countries, very
reluctant to take on board these thirty two even though
it is a relatively small figure.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Absolutely, Gevin, thank you very much for that. Gvin Gray,
UK europe Correspondent with US. Time is nine minutes away
from seven. You're on News Talks. It'd be that four
year parliamentary term bill pasted its first reading today and
there's another one related to it that's coming. I'll tell
you more about that. Nick.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
For more from hither Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to
News Talks.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
It'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
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