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May 12, 2025 5 mins

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says he is ready to personally meet with Vladimir Putin on Thursday to discuss ending the war.

This comes after Donald Trump demanded Ukraine agree to Putin's offer of direct talks between the two countries in Turkey.

UK correspondent Gavin Grey explains further.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
With me now as Gavin Gray UK corresponding, Hey, Gevin,
Hi there. What are the chances Putin turns up to
this meeting.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Yeah, it's going to be I think, a very very
interesting forty eight hours or so before we reach the
Thursday meeting that's deadline now between Vladimir Putin and Vladimir Zelenski,
which we now know to be in hosted by Turkey
Regick Tibird. When the President says he's happy to host it.
It's interesting. I think that since President Trump's intervention that

(00:32):
he wanted this to take place, that it appears Ukraine
has dropped its demand for a cease fire before agreeing
to talks, because we're now hearing on X anyway, President
Zelenski has said that there is no point in prolonging
the killings, and I will be waiting for Putin in

(00:53):
Turkey on Thursday personally, And it is therefore the first
time we're going to see these face to face talks
between the pair. After all, we suspect that President Putin
will turn up. He's the one that's demanded the face
to face talks. But this talk of a thirty day
pause in fighting, which was due to start now has
gone very quiet with talk. We just don't know if

(01:15):
Russia is going to respect that or whether that's not
going to happen at all. So perhaps now Ukraine feeling
that it has to soften its stance demanding the ceasefire
before the talks, to first of all appease President Trump,
I guess, but also to get these talks underway. So
plenty riding on this after so many deaths and so

(01:35):
long at the country being ripped apart by Russian aggression.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Gevin, talk to me about there some charge that you know,
the chap who is the prime suspect of medal of mccann'sappearance.
What's this extra charge that he's facing now.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yes, So, Christian Brukner is his name, and he was
due to be released from jail in September for existing
offenses that he was behind bars for. The forty eight
old was imprisoned in Germany for raping a seventy two
year old American tourist in Portugal back in two thousand
and five. You'll remember that three year old Madeline McCann

(02:10):
vanished for her holiday apartment in Portugal in two thousand
and seven. It's become obviously one of the highest profile
unsolved missing person cases in the world. So every single
move that Bruckner, because he's not being identified as a
suspect in her disappearance until twenty twenty, but every single
move that comes around about this man gains international attraction,

(02:33):
of course, and we're being told that he's due in
court shortly in the next few days, accused of insulting
a member of prison staff. Now the precise details of
this allegation have not been made public. It doesn't sound
terribly serious, but there is this sort of underplayer thought
that they're very keen to keep him in prison while

(02:54):
they continue to justify or continue to try to link
him to Madeline McCann's disappearance. Now we don't know that
for sure. The German authorities have not said that, but
that's certainly come out by lots of experts believing that
it'll be a big fear that when he releases release
from prison as a freeman, he would then skip Germany
and disappear altogether.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Kevin, the stuff that your Prime minister is announcing, this
crack down of migration, is this proving popular.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
I think it will do, and the reason is quite
simply the figures, Heather. So obviously now in the UK
we've had a surge for Reform UK in the polls,
something that they have taken voters or support from both
the party of government Labor and the previous party of government,
the Conservatives. And one of the key things that Reform

(03:44):
says it will do is get net migration down to zero. Well,
last year net migration was seven hundred and twenty eight thousand,
the year before it was nine hundred and three thousand,
So just in two years more than one point six
million net migration into the UK. It's obviously very very

(04:05):
sore and sensitive subject, and it's not just illegal migration
that people want to crack down on. Hey, it's legal
migration as well. This government to outline in just under
an hour's time what new contribution it's going to make
to this debate. It is going to apparently extend the
amount of time that somebody has to be resident here

(04:27):
before they can apply from citizenship from five to ten years.
It's going to reduce the reliance on foreign workers, particularly
in the care sector, and there'll be new English language
requirements for every visa route, including adult dependence. That bit
is completely new that you also not just the main applicant,
but the family members as well should have a working

(04:50):
level of English. So these things the government promises will
get tightening up of net migration, but others are saying
these are just tinkering around the edges and frankly we
should leave the European Court of the Human Rights in
order to prevent people from putting out spurious appeals.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Gavin's always good to talk to you mate. Thank you
so much. Gavin Gray, UK, corresponding.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
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