May 15, 2025 • 5 mins
The UK Government has warned prisons are running out of room - and they're aiming to get new structures built to address the shortage.
Three new prisons - totalling £4.7 billion - will be built, starting this year.
UK correspondent Gavin Grey explains further.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In the Brady UK correspondence with us Now in the
Laura of the German just told me that someone just
pulled a knife on you.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You okay, yeah, I'm fine. Might do you hear what's
just happened to me? This is London now, you never
see a police officer. So I'm two hundred meters away
from my studio and there's a guy standing behind a
row of bikes that you can hire by the hour,
and he quite aggressively said to me, can you give
me three fifty for a bike? And I never have
(00:26):
any cash on me, so I said, I have no
cash on me. He then said, well fu. He had
a plastic pint glass full of liquid which he threw
at me, so I jumped out of the way. The
liquid went everywhere, and then I moved closer to him
and I said why did you do that? And quick
as a flash, out comes the knife and he goes,
come on then, and I said, put the knife down
(00:46):
and we'll talk, and then he just kept moving. So
at that point I thought, I'm not getting stabbed over this.
Welcome to London, that is the city we live in.
I'm okay, I'm I'm just amazed. I mean you never
see police officers. I'm looking down the street. Now there's
a bus stop, there's kids, there's a there's a girl
who's probably twelve in school uniform, just getting on the bus.
(01:07):
And this incident happened one hundred and fifty meters away
from where those kids are. It's shocking what has become
of London. It really really is. And do you know what,
just permit me ten more seconds on this, Heather. I've
just come back from Warsaw in Poland. I've been filming
in Poland, but the presidential election this weekend for the
last three days, clean safe, police everywhere and nobody bothers
(01:30):
you And I've just had that on my way to working.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I just want to ask, so you are I mean
you are out of Ham's way, right, He's not going
to come home find.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, oh no, no, I'm true. I'm true security. Now
I'm in a studio. I'm happy, but I'm just a
little bit shaken. But like I'm quite annoyed because the
city is getting lawless.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Did you never see any police officers?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Why?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Just never see I don't know where the money goes.
It is the mystery of modern Britain. I'm paying I'm
in the top one percent of taxpayers and earners in
the United Kingdom. I don't know where the money goes, Heather,
They're certainly not spending it on police officers. And there's
no point even going to the police about this. I've
reported it to security downstairs. They're dealing with it. But
(02:14):
you just never see cops.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, well, the listener, this is and mean, I hate
to say this because I really hate it. The bad
people get away with bad behavior. But in don't next
time something like that happens, don't ask him why you
did that, Just leave because you don't need Lucky he
actually showed you what he was up to before you
actually got in trouble. Now listen, speaking of all of
this crime and stuff, you guys are running out of
prison space again as well.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, they are. So it's a big announcement from the
government today. Nine point four billion dollars is being set
aside in the budget. They're going to build three new
prisons and the reason being they've done their figures and
they've calculated how many come in and out of the
criminal system and the prison estate as they call it,
and by November it will be full. So as of
today they're on ninety nine percent capacity. And if you
(02:58):
remember when Starmer took power July last year, one of
the first things he had to do was let guys
out early. And there were not huge criminals. They were
not rapists or pedophiles or murderers. These were people who
had stolen things or you know, traffic violations, people who
you know, were serving six to twelve month sentences. They
were let out early in their hundreds for several weeks.
(03:20):
Clearly they can't keep doing that, so the plan is
three new systems prisons to be built in the UK
system in the next three years.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Are you surprised that Gary Lineker actually apologized for something
for once?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yes, I am really in a way and I think
he'd no option here. He is leaving his BBC Match
of the Day role in a matter of weeks, but
he has been booked to do the twenty twenty six
Soccer World Cup on the BBC and that will be
his last big gig for the corporation. So what he's
done is he has reposted and shared on Instagram a
(03:54):
clip a video and it says Zionism explained in two
minutes and there is a rat emoji on that footage.
Now clearly we know this goes all the way back
to the Third Reich and the kind of imagery and
language used by the likes of Hitler and Goebbels and
the rest of them. He deleted it very, very quickly.
He says he didn't want to cause offense, but he
(04:16):
has apologized. I think a lot of his Jewish colleagues
at the BBC are extremely angry. Jewish organizations are calling
for him to be sacked watch this space, but he
does seem bulletproof. Yeah, it's a strange one.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It really is. A listen now putin calls for a meeting,
then doesn't turn up.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
What the hell's he up to? So he has absolutely
no interest in peace. I mean the whole point of
what they're doing. And from every senior Russian that I
have interviewed over the last three plus years of this war,
the plan is that Ukraine does not exist, and they
will grind on if it means an inch every week,
(04:53):
and they do this for the next thirty years. That
is the plan. He has no interest in peace whatsoever,
And I think Zelenski has played a master stroke by
calling him out and saying I'll be there, will you,
And he knew he knew Putin would not turn up,
Putin sending a deputy deputy culture minister. I mean, it's
two fingers up to everyone. But at least hopefully now
(05:15):
Trump and Vance and the rest of them in America
can see what they're dealing with, because make no mistakes,
and I predict this here and now, within the next
three to five years, once Putin has recovered his economy
and he gets more men into his military, he will
go after one of the Baltic nations like Estonia.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, let's hope that doesn't happen, but I think you
might be right. And to listen, thank you very much
and yeh go and calm your nerves. It's into Brady
how UK correspondent.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to
news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
In the Brady UK correspondence with us Now in the
Laura of the German just told me that someone just
pulled a knife on you.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You okay, yeah, I'm fine. Might do you hear what's
just happened to me? This is London now, you never
see a police officer. So I'm two hundred meters away
from my studio and there's a guy standing behind a
row of bikes that you can hire by the hour,
and he quite aggressively said to me, can you give
me three fifty for a bike? And I never have
(00:26):
any cash on me, so I said, I have no
cash on me. He then said, well fu. He had
a plastic pint glass full of liquid which he threw
at me, so I jumped out of the way. The
liquid went everywhere, and then I moved closer to him
and I said why did you do that? And quick
as a flash, out comes the knife and he goes,
come on then, and I said, put the knife down
(00:46):
and we'll talk, and then he just kept moving. So
at that point I thought, I'm not getting stabbed over this.
Welcome to London, that is the city we live in.
I'm okay, I'm I'm just amazed. I mean you never
see police officers. I'm looking down the street. Now there's
a bus stop, there's kids, there's a there's a girl
who's probably twelve in school uniform, just getting on the bus.
(01:07):
And this incident happened one hundred and fifty meters away
from where those kids are. It's shocking what has become
of London. It really really is. And do you know what,
just permit me ten more seconds on this, Heather. I've
just come back from Warsaw in Poland. I've been filming
in Poland, but the presidential election this weekend for the
last three days, clean safe, police everywhere and nobody bothers
(01:30):
you And I've just had that on my way to working.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I just want to ask, so you are I mean
you are out of Ham's way, right, He's not going
to come home find.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Yeah, oh no, no, I'm true. I'm true security. Now
I'm in a studio. I'm happy, but I'm just a
little bit shaken. But like I'm quite annoyed because the
city is getting lawless.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
What's going on?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Did you never see any police officers?
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Why?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Just never see I don't know where the money goes.
It is the mystery of modern Britain. I'm paying I'm
in the top one percent of taxpayers and earners in
the United Kingdom. I don't know where the money goes, Heather,
They're certainly not spending it on police officers. And there's
no point even going to the police about this. I've
reported it to security downstairs. They're dealing with it. But
(02:14):
you just never see cops.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, well, the listener, this is and mean, I hate
to say this because I really hate it. The bad
people get away with bad behavior. But in don't next
time something like that happens, don't ask him why you
did that, Just leave because you don't need Lucky he
actually showed you what he was up to before you
actually got in trouble. Now listen, speaking of all of
this crime and stuff, you guys are running out of
prison space again as well.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, they are. So it's a big announcement from the
government today. Nine point four billion dollars is being set
aside in the budget. They're going to build three new
prisons and the reason being they've done their figures and
they've calculated how many come in and out of the
criminal system and the prison estate as they call it,
and by November it will be full. So as of
today they're on ninety nine percent capacity. And if you
(02:58):
remember when Starmer took power July last year, one of
the first things he had to do was let guys
out early. And there were not huge criminals. They were
not rapists or pedophiles or murderers. These were people who
had stolen things or you know, traffic violations, people who
you know, were serving six to twelve month sentences. They
were let out early in their hundreds for several weeks.
(03:20):
Clearly they can't keep doing that, so the plan is
three new systems prisons to be built in the UK
system in the next three years.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Are you surprised that Gary Lineker actually apologized for something
for once?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yes, I am really in a way and I think
he'd no option here. He is leaving his BBC Match
of the Day role in a matter of weeks, but
he has been booked to do the twenty twenty six
Soccer World Cup on the BBC and that will be
his last big gig for the corporation. So what he's
done is he has reposted and shared on Instagram a
(03:54):
clip a video and it says Zionism explained in two
minutes and there is a rat emoji on that footage.
Now clearly we know this goes all the way back
to the Third Reich and the kind of imagery and
language used by the likes of Hitler and Goebbels and
the rest of them. He deleted it very, very quickly.
He says he didn't want to cause offense, but he
(04:16):
has apologized. I think a lot of his Jewish colleagues
at the BBC are extremely angry. Jewish organizations are calling
for him to be sacked watch this space, but he
does seem bulletproof. Yeah, it's a strange one.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
It really is. A listen now putin calls for a meeting,
then doesn't turn up.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
What the hell's he up to? So he has absolutely
no interest in peace. I mean the whole point of
what they're doing. And from every senior Russian that I
have interviewed over the last three plus years of this war,
the plan is that Ukraine does not exist, and they
will grind on if it means an inch every week,
(04:53):
and they do this for the next thirty years. That
is the plan. He has no interest in peace whatsoever,
And I think Zelenski has played a master stroke by
calling him out and saying I'll be there, will you,
And he knew he knew Putin would not turn up,
Putin sending a deputy deputy culture minister. I mean, it's
two fingers up to everyone. But at least hopefully now
(05:15):
Trump and Vance and the rest of them in America
can see what they're dealing with, because make no mistakes,
and I predict this here and now, within the next
three to five years, once Putin has recovered his economy
and he gets more men into his military, he will
go after one of the Baltic nations like Estonia.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, let's hope that doesn't happen, but I think you
might be right. And to listen, thank you very much
and yeh go and calm your nerves. It's into Brady
how UK correspondent.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
For more from Hither Duplessy Alan Drive, listen live to
news Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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