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Speaker 1 (00:00):
As I said earlier, Debi, Nari Wapaka and Rawdytt have
given an interview to the Hui. They say they're not
sorry for the Huker, which is the thing that they're
in trouble for, and they would do it again.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
We are not sorry for what we did, but we
understand that the impacts over the next twenty one days
is going to be felt because the Regulatary Standards Bill
is one of the most destructive and dangerous bills I
have ever seen and this country will ever see. It's intentionally,
it's deliberate. It's taken nearly six months to get to this,
(00:31):
and they've taken us out before budget, and they've taken
us out before the Regulatary Standards Bill.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
It's eleven past five. Vladimir Putin will not be turning
up to the meeting with Ukraine' Vladimir Zelenski for peace
talks tonight. That means Donald Trump will now also not come.
Vassal Murashnichenko is the Ukrainian ambassador to New Zealand Vassel. Hello, Hello,
Its meeting is pointless, now, isn't it it?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
As look I mean, yeah, I'm the whole point is
that as you have seen out of over the weekend,
full leaders of four countries Britain, France, Germany and Poland
came to Ukraine and they have made a joint statement.
They also had a phone call with President Trump and
(01:14):
they made a clear statement demanding from Russia and immediate
unconditional ceasefire. And Russians have not accepted the ceasefire. More so,
starting from March eleventh, Ukraine agreed for a ceasefire which
was proposed by American President Donald Trump, and Russia never
agreed to any ceasefire. So we clearly see that Russia
(01:37):
is not interested in peace. Russia is interested in continuing
to wage war. Russia is interesting in continuing to kill Ukrainians,
kill our children, kill rape the women. So what happens hospitals?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
What happens next bessel? Like, what is it going to
take if everybody's pending their hopes on this meeting? So
what happened?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
So the only way to force Russia into negotiations is
to further isolate Russia, impose more sanctions on Russia, provide
more defense assistance to Ukraine, and take over the immobilized
Russian assets which are three hundred billion dollars which are
currently primarily in Europe, in America and some other jurisdictions
(02:17):
for the support of Ukraine. That's the only way how
we can actually exert pressure on Russia to start negotiations
in good faith. For now, Russians will pretend negotiating, they
will pertain and they want peace, but they will continue
waging the war. You have to keep in mind it's
summer now in Ukraine. Therefore, Russians are currently on the overdrive,
(02:40):
as they say it in Australia battle Metal, so they
are in full in trying to advance. They are gaining
gradually some ground, not much, but at a huge expense,
at a huge cost. But they are out there and
there is no motivation for them to stop anytime soon.
They still are on their main objectives of the war,
(03:03):
and the main objective of the war is to take
over entire country.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Vassal, thanks very much, good luck with everything. Really appreciate
your time, Vassal Mroshnichenko, the Ukrainian Ambassador to New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
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