May 16, 2025 • 10 mins
One News Sports Editor Abby Wilson and Sports Journalist Jim Kayes join Heather du Plessis-Allan for the Sports Huddle.
Auckland FC are facing a huge challenge this weekend as they take on the Melbourne Victory. The Sports Huddle discusses if the team’s prepared for the match.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Bring out the planks, lenders, celebrations, figs.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Are a league premius.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's given it a ryde Ryan Fox, fantastic.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
A hool Bernie been the first playoff hole.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm delighted that Naples has ended up coming out on top.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
It's a great city, it's a great sailing venue. It'll
be a wonderful location for the next America's Cup.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Right on the sports title with us this evening, Abby
Wilson won new sports editor.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Jim Kay's producer of the Breakdown at sky TV.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hi U too good?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hello Abby? What do you reckon? Is the key hungry players?
Like is that more important than talent? Hunger over talent?
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Well, I think it's a bit of both.
Speaker 7 (00:51):
Like they got hungry players in those hungry players have
shown their talent and now they still have that hunger.
And I guess a point to prove not just you know,
to win the A League, but also to this team
that had faith in them. Like you think of players
like Francis to Freeze right was playing club football. He
comes to Auckland FC does really well back in the
all Whites fold, and so you know, you want to
(01:13):
reward the people who've batch you don't you if your
players like that? And so I think there is that hunger.
I went to training this week, which I haven't done
all season, and I was impressed, like they were into it,
they were aggressive, they were not holding back, and I
don't doubt that there's a lot of hunger.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Is Abby Is Alex Poulsen off next season?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Yep one.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
I mean he's made such a difference as that, that
goalie for them, But I mean it was an interesting
way how he ended up there. Remember he was with
the Phoenix, Bill Foley signs into his you know, a
foreign team and then he ends up at the Auckland
f C. He's made a major difference. It'll be interesting
next year how they go. But again he also you know,
would want to go out in the high Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Probably, Oh well, i'd imagine absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Jim, are you how you've seen a fair few seasons
of everything, haven't you?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
How impressed are you this lot?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
It's just incredible And I mean your question to Steve
was on the money, How how on earth have they
done what they've done?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And not just on the field but in the stands,
and you.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Know, everywhere you turn someone's wearing an AFC shirt or
a cap. The fervor and the support is incredible. Someone
one day will ride a thesis on it and we
might get a bit of an insight into it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But it is amazing.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
I've not seen anything like this in New Zealand for
a club team like this. I mean we see it
for things.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Like a World Cup, you know, the Cricket World Cup,
the Rugby World Cup. We used to see it for
the America's Cup.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
We're going to talk about that soon, say ninety five,
and those sorts of things. But for a club like this,
I've not seen anything like it. It's quite staggering and
it's wonderful. Like it's easy to get excited for them,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Totally.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Now, speaking of the America's Cup, Jym So, I was
listening to somebody this morning having a giant winge about
fact the America then ten New Zealand is sailing in
Italy and it's helmed by an Australian. So is it
even a New Zealand team, to which I say.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
No, it's not. It's Grant Dalton's team. Are we ever
going to stop banging on about this?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah? Who cares? I mean, it's an international sport. It's
an international team.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
That person they're talking about is marriage to Quibia's kids
are Kiwis and he lives in New Zealand. So I
don't know what qualifies it nowadays as being a news yellander.
But look, this has been an international team for an
extremely long time. It's like, I'm not a sailor, but
this is a very different boat that they sail compared
to the boats of you know, two or three America's
(03:35):
Cups to go, and some people get really upset about that. Well, okay,
if you're going to get upset, then then don't watch it,
don't follow.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It, you know, don't get interested in it.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
I mean, it's you know, it's like complaining that Formula
one's gone to cars that were faster than they were
in nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, you know it's.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I think Jim's bang on here, Abby. I mean, I
feel like people just I feel like the America.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I feel like people read about the America's Cup and
they are primed to get annoyed.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Yeah they are, I mean, but I would also say
that the interest levels have gone down since it's sailed
off shore.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
And so I think if your team New Zealand.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
You have to accept that making decisions like this, it
alienates you further and further from the New Zealand public.
Now they'd argue that they've made these decisions to win,
and winners get supporters and so it's sort of a cycle.
But I yeah, I think it's the minute they went
to Barcelona for that defense, that ship sailed. I think
they sailed away from you know, being in hearts of
(04:30):
New Zealanders really and maybe now it's just the real
die hard sailors who are really invested in a team
which is less and less a representation of New Yale percent.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
And I'd argue that they don't care. They have zero
interested in what the New Zealand sporting fan cares about.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Yeah, and because they're winning, they are winning as well,
aren't they And so is that more important than sports.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
For the sponsors than everyone else?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
And whether you know, I mean the Red Sox campaign,
it's a long time ago that they're a professional. But
they don't give two hoots what the needs in the
public thinks. And they'll sell, they'll sell anywhere where they're
going to make a dollar.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, absolutely agree, All right, Okay, sports huddles back with us,
and I just cannot get excited about the Sky. Apparently
Jim is bringing back televised first fifteen rugby. Who watches
televised first fifteen rugby?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Loads of people?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
You'd be very surprised, loads and loads of people.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
If you're a kid at the school, you're a parent,
are granted?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Are you're saying this because you're employed at Sky.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
No, I'm saying it because that's not the numbers show.
And it only went away when the one A pulled
out of the deal and said we don't want it
on TV. These are the same schools, mind you, that
are quite happy to poach players from other schools and
bring back students a year fourteens so that they've got
better teams.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So where their morals are I'm not really sure.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And not just in rugby and rowing and lots of
other sports as well. But no, answer your question, there's
a strong interest in first fifteen rugby boys and girls,
and Sky would not be Sky doesn't put on Telly
things that people don't want to watch.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
This is a convincing argument, Abby, But do you sit
down and watch it?
Speaker 6 (06:10):
No? But Heather, you and I don't have children. Who
play first fifteen rugby.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
We probably didn't play first fifteen rugby ourselves, but I
was in Central Otago over the weekend and went along
to Saturday morning sport and was reminded how big rugby
is in the regions, especially the entire community revolves around it.
Everyone's there, everyone's talking about it, and it's sort of
it is that beating heart of the community from the
great Are you I know the kids that you went
(06:36):
to see and neither none of them are in the
first fifteen age No, but all the families then went
on to watch first fifteen and so what I'm saying
is it's a big yeah, and they know what school
dad went to and grandpa and so there's all that
sort of those links around the spirit.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Are you're going to watch it?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Are you telling me.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That there were families who went to watch the first
fifteen who don't even have kids at that school or
kids in that team.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Yep, maybe they have a link or they're involved.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
With the girls do the a lot of time, Heather,
have you not been at Eden Park when a school's
game played Curtain Raiser to an NPC game and three
quarters of the crowd left after the schools game.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, I'm getting schooled on this because Jim I thought
about this. I thought, you can't even get me to
watch Super Rugby. Why the hell am I tuning in
for firse fifteen? But you're telling me this is potentially
more successful.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And it's a great product.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
It's a good style of rugby, it's a it's a
more free flowing style of rugby.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It's highly entertaining.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Honestly, it gets watched and and you know, as Abbi said,
for those people who are involved in the school or
have been involved in the school, they love watching the
old school.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
They love watching their current school. They love watching their.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Son or daughter, grandson, granddaughter, those sorts of things playing
for their school.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
There's a huge amount of pride.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Come on, you know, if you're from christ Church, the
first thing you asked anyone is what school did you go?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
That's you know, it's not always a good thing.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
You'll probably just not target audience, I guess, is the
bottom line.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And then but once, so what you're saying is once
the kids hit that age and I am target audience,
then I'm hooked for life on first time, Yeah, for
life life.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You were right. I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, And Abbs kids are the same.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Abbey, your kids are like roughly the same age as
my kids, So we're going to have a rivalry.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It's going to be north Shore totally be the whole way. Abby. Listen,
I know you people are big into the golf in
your family. Did you did you are?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Did you expect that Ryan was going to do as
well as he's doing.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
I am backed him in my sweep steak, And can
I just tell you why? Because sometimes I think when
you've got nothing to lose and nothing to prove, that's
the best way to play golf. He wasn't expected to
play at the event. He's just had a breakthrough when
he probably hasn't had the preparation he should have had
for a major, and so you go out there and
you probably play with a bit of freedom.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
And enjoyment that you don't normally have.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Whether he can string four wonderful rounds together is the
real test.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
But if I mean, as long as it's not really
really low.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Scoring over the four rounds, if there's a few challenges
and conditions things like that, I think he could do
quite well.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What do you reckon, Jim?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I love him.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I think He's a sort of sports person that Kiei's
love to get him behind. He loves a beer and
loves a burger, loves to go fishing with his mates,
plays golf with a little bit of carefree, abandoned. You
know the shot that won that won the PGA tournament
the other week, you know, he gave it a feroh
tonk and it just went straight the whole way. You know,
at work everyone was hooping and hollering. I think he's great.
(09:37):
He's a breath of fresh air for his ill in sport.
He's been around a while. But you know what I mean,
or power to him.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I hope he wins as many things as he can.
He seems to be very very popular.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Guys Rory McElroy rate him, of friends with him. He's
great for the sport and he's he's a fun loving
Kiwi sportsman.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
More powerful.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, it's good to support him.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Hey, guys, thank you so much. Enjoy yourselves, have a
good weekend. Wilson One new sports editor Jim Kaye's producer
of the Breakdown at sky TV.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
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Speaker 3 (10:08):
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Bring out the planks, lenders, celebrations, figs.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Are a league premius.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
It's given it a ryde Ryan Fox, fantastic.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
A hool Bernie been the first playoff hole.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I'm delighted that Naples has ended up coming out on top.
Speaker 5 (00:28):
It's a great city, it's a great sailing venue. It'll
be a wonderful location for the next America's Cup.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Right on the sports title with us this evening, Abby
Wilson won new sports editor.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Jim Kay's producer of the Breakdown at sky TV.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hi U too good?
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Hello Abby? What do you reckon? Is the key hungry players?
Like is that more important than talent? Hunger over talent?
Speaker 6 (00:49):
Well, I think it's a bit of both.
Speaker 7 (00:51):
Like they got hungry players in those hungry players have
shown their talent and now they still have that hunger.
And I guess a point to prove not just you know,
to win the A League, but also to this team
that had faith in them. Like you think of players
like Francis to Freeze right was playing club football. He
comes to Auckland FC does really well back in the
all Whites fold, and so you know, you want to
(01:13):
reward the people who've batch you don't you if your
players like that? And so I think there is that hunger.
I went to training this week, which I haven't done
all season, and I was impressed, like they were into it,
they were aggressive, they were not holding back, and I
don't doubt that there's a lot of hunger.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Is Abby Is Alex Poulsen off next season?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Yep one.
Speaker 7 (01:34):
I mean he's made such a difference as that, that
goalie for them, But I mean it was an interesting
way how he ended up there. Remember he was with
the Phoenix, Bill Foley signs into his you know, a
foreign team and then he ends up at the Auckland
f C. He's made a major difference. It'll be interesting
next year how they go. But again he also you know,
would want to go out in the high Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Probably, Oh well, i'd imagine absolutely.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Jim, are you how you've seen a fair few seasons
of everything, haven't you?
Speaker 1 (01:59):
How impressed are you this lot?
Speaker 5 (02:01):
It's just incredible And I mean your question to Steve
was on the money, How how on earth have they
done what they've done?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
And not just on the field but in the stands,
and you.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Know, everywhere you turn someone's wearing an AFC shirt or
a cap. The fervor and the support is incredible. Someone
one day will ride a thesis on it and we
might get a bit of an insight into it.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But it is amazing.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
I've not seen anything like this in New Zealand for
a club team like this. I mean we see it
for things.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Like a World Cup, you know, the Cricket World Cup,
the Rugby World Cup. We used to see it for
the America's Cup.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
We're going to talk about that soon, say ninety five,
and those sorts of things. But for a club like this,
I've not seen anything like it. It's quite staggering and
it's wonderful. Like it's easy to get excited for them,
isn't it?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Totally.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Now, speaking of the America's Cup, Jym So, I was
listening to somebody this morning having a giant winge about
fact the America then ten New Zealand is sailing in
Italy and it's helmed by an Australian. So is it
even a New Zealand team, to which I say.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
No, it's not. It's Grant Dalton's team. Are we ever
going to stop banging on about this?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah? Who cares? I mean, it's an international sport. It's
an international team.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
That person they're talking about is marriage to Quibia's kids
are Kiwis and he lives in New Zealand. So I
don't know what qualifies it nowadays as being a news yellander.
But look, this has been an international team for an
extremely long time. It's like, I'm not a sailor, but
this is a very different boat that they sail compared
to the boats of you know, two or three America's
(03:35):
Cups to go, and some people get really upset about that. Well, okay,
if you're going to get upset, then then don't watch it,
don't follow.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It, you know, don't get interested in it.
Speaker 5 (03:43):
I mean, it's you know, it's like complaining that Formula
one's gone to cars that were faster than they were
in nineteen seventy six.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, you know it's.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
I think Jim's bang on here, Abby. I mean, I
feel like people just I feel like the America.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
I feel like people read about the America's Cup and
they are primed to get annoyed.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
Yeah they are, I mean, but I would also say
that the interest levels have gone down since it's sailed
off shore.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
And so I think if your team New Zealand.
Speaker 7 (04:10):
You have to accept that making decisions like this, it
alienates you further and further from the New Zealand public.
Now they'd argue that they've made these decisions to win,
and winners get supporters and so it's sort of a cycle.
But I yeah, I think it's the minute they went
to Barcelona for that defense, that ship sailed. I think
they sailed away from you know, being in hearts of
(04:30):
New Zealanders really and maybe now it's just the real
die hard sailors who are really invested in a team
which is less and less a representation of New Yale percent.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
And I'd argue that they don't care. They have zero
interested in what the New Zealand sporting fan cares about.
Speaker 7 (04:46):
Yeah, and because they're winning, they are winning as well,
aren't they And so is that more important than sports.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
For the sponsors than everyone else?
Speaker 5 (04:54):
And whether you know, I mean the Red Sox campaign,
it's a long time ago that they're a professional. But
they don't give two hoots what the needs in the
public thinks. And they'll sell, they'll sell anywhere where they're
going to make a dollar.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Yeah, absolutely agree, All right, Okay, sports huddles back with us,
and I just cannot get excited about the Sky. Apparently
Jim is bringing back televised first fifteen rugby. Who watches
televised first fifteen rugby?
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Loads of people?
Speaker 5 (05:19):
You'd be very surprised, loads and loads of people.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
If you're a kid at the school, you're a parent,
are granted?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Are you're saying this because you're employed at Sky.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
No, I'm saying it because that's not the numbers show.
And it only went away when the one A pulled
out of the deal and said we don't want it
on TV. These are the same schools, mind you, that
are quite happy to poach players from other schools and
bring back students a year fourteens so that they've got
better teams.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So where their morals are I'm not really sure.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
And not just in rugby and rowing and lots of
other sports as well. But no, answer your question, there's
a strong interest in first fifteen rugby boys and girls,
and Sky would not be Sky doesn't put on Telly
things that people don't want to watch.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
This is a convincing argument, Abby, But do you sit
down and watch it?
Speaker 6 (06:10):
No? But Heather, you and I don't have children. Who
play first fifteen rugby.
Speaker 7 (06:14):
We probably didn't play first fifteen rugby ourselves, but I
was in Central Otago over the weekend and went along
to Saturday morning sport and was reminded how big rugby
is in the regions, especially the entire community revolves around it.
Everyone's there, everyone's talking about it, and it's sort of
it is that beating heart of the community from the
great Are you I know the kids that you went
(06:36):
to see and neither none of them are in the
first fifteen age No, but all the families then went
on to watch first fifteen and so what I'm saying
is it's a big yeah, and they know what school
dad went to and grandpa and so there's all that
sort of those links around the spirit.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
Are you're going to watch it?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Are you telling me.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
That there were families who went to watch the first
fifteen who don't even have kids at that school or
kids in that team.
Speaker 6 (06:59):
Yep, maybe they have a link or they're involved.
Speaker 4 (07:01):
With the girls do the a lot of time, Heather,
have you not been at Eden Park when a school's
game played Curtain Raiser to an NPC game and three
quarters of the crowd left after the schools game.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
No, I'm getting schooled on this because Jim I thought
about this. I thought, you can't even get me to
watch Super Rugby. Why the hell am I tuning in
for firse fifteen? But you're telling me this is potentially
more successful.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
And it's a great product.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
It's a good style of rugby, it's a it's a
more free flowing style of rugby.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It's highly entertaining.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Honestly, it gets watched and and you know, as Abbi said,
for those people who are involved in the school or
have been involved in the school, they love watching the
old school.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
They love watching their current school. They love watching their.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Son or daughter, grandson, granddaughter, those sorts of things playing
for their school.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
There's a huge amount of pride.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Come on, you know, if you're from christ Church, the
first thing you asked anyone is what school did you go?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
That's you know, it's not always a good thing.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
You'll probably just not target audience, I guess, is the
bottom line.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
And then but once, so what you're saying is once
the kids hit that age and I am target audience,
then I'm hooked for life on first time, Yeah, for
life life.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
You were right. I was wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Yeah, And Abbs kids are the same.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Abbey, your kids are like roughly the same age as
my kids, So we're going to have a rivalry.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
It's going to be north Shore totally be the whole way. Abby. Listen,
I know you people are big into the golf in
your family. Did you did you are?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Did you expect that Ryan was going to do as
well as he's doing.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
I am backed him in my sweep steak, And can
I just tell you why? Because sometimes I think when
you've got nothing to lose and nothing to prove, that's
the best way to play golf. He wasn't expected to
play at the event. He's just had a breakthrough when
he probably hasn't had the preparation he should have had
for a major, and so you go out there and
you probably play with a bit of freedom.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
And enjoyment that you don't normally have.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Whether he can string four wonderful rounds together is the
real test.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
But if I mean, as long as it's not really
really low.
Speaker 7 (09:05):
Scoring over the four rounds, if there's a few challenges
and conditions things like that, I think he could do
quite well.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
What do you reckon, Jim?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I love him.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
I think He's a sort of sports person that Kiei's
love to get him behind. He loves a beer and
loves a burger, loves to go fishing with his mates,
plays golf with a little bit of carefree, abandoned. You
know the shot that won that won the PGA tournament
the other week, you know, he gave it a feroh
tonk and it just went straight the whole way. You know,
at work everyone was hooping and hollering. I think he's great.
(09:37):
He's a breath of fresh air for his ill in sport.
He's been around a while. But you know what I mean,
or power to him.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I hope he wins as many things as he can.
He seems to be very very popular.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Guys Rory McElroy rate him, of friends with him. He's
great for the sport and he's he's a fun loving
Kiwi sportsman.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
More powerful.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
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