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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In the Brady are UK correspondents with us ay in death.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Hey, Heather, I'm loving the language. Who wouldn't get away
with that?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Over here we get away with a lot worse. You
should go away and google New Zealand C word column
and see what happened a couple of weeks ago. Yeah,
that's wild over here in the Intipodes. I mean there's
a reason they seemed to us away from the Motherland
because they well can't handle this by Hey, tell me
what you think of this EU deal. As it a win?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I think it is. I think it's very good news.
And look for me, I think it's the end of
Little Britain. That experiment is dead. It has not worked.
The people we had running around saying that this little
island in a world that is so globally connected for
trade because of its history and heritage, that one little
island could stand alone against the world. There aren't too
many people nowadays who put their hands up to saying
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that they voted for Brexit. It has been an unmitigated
catastrophe economically, financially and on a human level for every
person in the UK with a British passport. So look,
Starmer is beginning the process of Britain rejoining the European Union.
I confidently predict within a decade Britain will be back
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in Europe and this reset is badly needed. He's doing
deal after deal after deal. We saw India last week,
the United States and now this EU deal. And I
think for anyone who has any doubts, once they get
on a plane and land in Europe this summer on
their summer holidays and they're using the EU eGates and
speeding through border control, I think that is a win
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for everyone, because it's just intolerable at the moment for
people with UK passports.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
How do you feel about the situation with Gary Lineker,
because I imagine you're a fan, being a football man.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
I count him as a friend. I am a fan
of his work and I think he has done the
right thing. He has spoken out. Look, I make no
bones about the fact that you know, he says that
he didn't see the rat emoji on what he put
on Instagram last week. That's for other people to believe
him or judge. All I see is a very kind, compassionate,
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decent man raising his voice and speaking out at a
time when we've seen fifty five thousand women and children
bomb to bits. Two point four million people in Gaza
are being starved and a risk of famine right now,
nobody can defend what Israel is doing. Yes, Israel has
a right to defend itself. Yes, what happened on October
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the seventh was appalling. But this has gone on far,
far too long. And Gary Lineker standing up and speaking out.
I have no problem of what he has said. He'll
be a huge loss for the BBC. Yeah, I think
history will judge people who have said nothing. And just
for the record, Heather, I've run two marathons this year
and I've run every kilometer with the Palestinian flag and
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I will keep doing it.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I mean, the problem is not so much and I
take your point, and the problem is not so much
that he spoke out about this. It's actually I mean,
if this was just the one thing that he'd done,
he might have escalped the sanction. But he's I felt
that he's head to have an opinion on a lot
of things, isn't he?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Yes, And look, an awful lot of people do have
opinions on a lot of things, and they get given
radio programs like yours and others and my TV show.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, that's because it needs that's literally their job. But
he's the football guy. That's the problem, isn't it. He is.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
But he's a football guy with a social conscience. And look,
if they want robots, if they want AI presenters, yeah,
that's the way things will go in the future. But
I think he's a big, big loss.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
But tell me, because you'll know the detail here. I've
been told that the problem here is actually that it's
a breach of his contract because he signed a contract
that said he was going to stop doing the social
media stuff and then he did it again.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Yes, so look, the director general, what I would say
to him is, never mind about people signing social media
contracts and you can't tweet this and you can't say that.
Hugh Edwards, who left the BBC in utter disgrace, still
owes them four hundred thousand dollars in wages that they
paid him after he was arrested for having child porn
on a telephone. So you know, the BBC just gets
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itself in all sorts of nuts. Out of all the
people who've left the BBC, Gary Lineker can leave it
with his head held high. He is a phenomenal human being.
Last time I bumped into him the airport a few
months ago, he was on his way to Rome to
receive an International Humanitarian Award. That's what they give him
in Italy. In England they give him abuse.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
It's always good to talk to you. I appreciate your
perspective on things. It's in the Brady Our UK Correspondent.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
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