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May 27, 2025 2 mins

I think Winston Peters ruling out ever going into coalition with Chippy after the next election is actually more significant than many people will realize.

Because Winnie was actually Chippy's only credible path back to being prime minister again. Without Winnie, Chippy is completely stuffed, because the alternatives are not real options.

The alternatives are:

One - being in a coalition with a couple of loony parties, which centre voters are absolutely not going to go for. So you can forget about that.

The other is that Labour is returned as a majority Government again, which is, after what happened last time, not going to happen for a very long time again.

So basically, there is no way back for Chippy. He will not be Prime Minister after 2026, if ever.

Now a lot of people would say to me at this juncture - well of course not, National were always going to win the next election anyway, so this is just a completely spurious argument.

But I would say to you is - Labour's chances are actually a little bit better than you might think, because what we have right now is hardly a wildly popular Government.

These guys were elected, remember, telling us they were going to turn this economy around. 18 months later, they have not turned this economy around. 18 months later, we are still in the economic doldrums.

We are yet to see a vision, economically, from the coalition Government, the right track, wrong track indicator that comes out in multiple polls now is heavily negative for this Government.

Thousands of people are voting with their feet and leaving the country altogether. 

People vote with their hip pocket, right? Forget about everything else. If you just look at the economy, that is your greatest determiner of what happens at the election. People vote with their hip pocket - and right now, the hip pocket is suffering, it is not looking good for the economy.

But also, there should be a target right now on Chippy's back in Labour, because Winnie's problem is not with Labour.

Winnie's problem is with Chris Hipkins, which means a different leader and Winston Peters is back in the game as a possibility for Labour. Now that requires Labour to roll Chris Hipkins and then their chances are good again.

However, that requires Labour actually realizing that they need Winston Peters to form a coalition Government after 2026 - and that requires them also realizing there is no way they can coalesce with the Māori Party because most voters are allergic to the shenanigans that that party get up to.

But I don't think Labour is smart enough to realize that yet, do you?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think Winston Peter's ruling out ever going into coalition
with Chippy after the next election is actually more significant
than many people will realize, because Winnie was actually Chippy's
only credible path back to being prime minister again. Right
without Winnie, Chippy is completely stuffed because the alternatives are
not real options. I mean, the alternatives are one being
a coalition with a couple of looney parties, which you

(00:21):
center votes are absolutely not going to go for, so
you can absolutely forget about that. The other alternative is
that Labour is returned as a majority government again, which
is I think, after what happened last time, not going
to happen for a very long time again. So basically
there is no way back for Chippy. He will not
be Prime minister after twenty twenty six. If ever. Now,
a lot of people would say to me at this juncture, well,

(00:41):
of course, not National were always going to win the
next election anyways, this is just a completely spurious argument.
But I would say to you Labour's chances are actually
a little bit better than you might think, because what
we have right now is hardly a wildly popular government.
I mean, these guys were elected, remember telling us they
were going to turn this economy. Around eighteen months later,
they have not turned this economy. Around eighteen months later,

(01:02):
we are still in the economic doldrums. We are yet
to see a vision economically from the coalition government. The
right track wrong track indicator that comes out in multiple
polls now is heavily negative for this government. Thousands of
people voting with their feet and leaving the country altogether.
People vote with their hip pocket, right forget about everything else.
If you just look at the economy, that is your

(01:23):
greatest determiner of what happens at the election. People vote
with their hip pocket, and right now the hip pocket
is suffering. It is not looking good for the economy.
But also there should be a target right now on
Chippy's back in labor, because Winnie's problem is not with labor.
Winnie's problem is with Chris Hopkins, which means different leader,

(01:45):
and Winston Peters is back in the game as a
possibility for labor. Now that requires right That requires labor
to roll Chris Hipkins and then their chances are good again. However,
that requires Labor actually realizing that they need Winston Peters
to coalition government. After twenty twenty six and that requires
them also realizing there is no way they can coalesce

(02:06):
with the Maori Party because most voters are allergic to
the shenanigans that that party get up to. But I
don't think Labor is smart enough to realize that yet.
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