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Speaker 1 (00:00):
UK correspondent is Devin Gray. Hey, Gevin Hi there right?
So this business with Keir Starmer pretty embarrassing. But once
it started, it continues, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yes, it does. And this is the third climb down,
the third U turn that Sakir Starmer has done, just
coming up to the first anniversary of him becoming Conservative
the leader of the UK taking over from the Conservative government,
and this one was particularly messy, shambolic scenes in Parliament
with so many different amendments being rushed through and his
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own MP saying I've never seen anything so silly in
my life. One of them said, they went off to
go and get a banana, came back and was asked
to vote on something. They didn't have a clue what
they were voting on. This is all about trying to
reform the benefits Bill in the UK. It is massive.
It currently takes eleven percent of gross domestic product or
the total value of the economy each year. Last year
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spending on welfare was roughly three hundred and thirteen billion
pounds six hundred and forty billion New Zealand dollars and
it's set to get much bigger, increasing by about a
fit over the next five years. So you know, Labor
was trying to sort this out. They said that they
needed to make these cuts, they made them, and then
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they've decided that because the reb was saying no, no, no,
this is not what we stand for. You've got to
think again or we'll vote against it. The government had
to change things and change things quickly. And now it
looks like that the ten billion New Zealand dollars that
they're aimed to save will now not be saved. And
that's going to knock the Chancellor's forecasts off. And I
suspect we'll lead to tax cuts soon, tax rises, I should.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Say, ah, yep, most likely. I would imagine now what's
brought on these manslaughter changes Againsty's bosses.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, very interesting. So Lucy let be the biggest multiple
murderer of young children here in the UK in modern history,
currently serving fifteen whole life sentences for the murder of
seven babies and the attempted murder of seven others while
she was a nurse working with children and babies as
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a hospital in Chester. Now there have been lots and
lots of concerns about her conviction. Much of it was
based on the fact that she was always on shift
when the babies were actually either dead or put into
very grave danger. But of course that isn't direct evidence.
Some of the evidence as well was around what she
wrote in her diary saying she was an evil person,
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but again no direct link to that. So there have
been plenty of questions about her conviction, and now it's
materialized that three of her former bosses have also been
arrested on suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter. In other words,
bosses and the senior leadership team at the Countess of
Chester Hospital where this happened between twenty fifteen and twenty
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sixteen should have noticed a rise, it's alleged, in the
fatality rate in their maternity, in their baby unit, the
neo natal unit, and should therefore have done more to
stop it. So that charge, or that potential charge, rather
of gross negligence manslaughter is all about were they doing
their job and did the fact that if they weren't
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doing it properly, did that lead to the deaths of
these babies? But quite a twist in this extraordinary case.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Yeah, it is quite the twist. Hey, Kevin, I really
appreciate it. Thank you for your time, mate, look after Yourself.
That's Devin Gray, are UK correspondent.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
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