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July 3, 2025 7 mins

Qantas says its operations and safety are unaffected by a major cyber hack of its systems, potentially impacting six million customers. 

It's investigating the proportion of the data stolen, and expects it will be significant.

Initial reviews show some customer names, emails, phone numbers, birth dates and frequent flyer numbers were stolen. 

Australian correspondent Murray Olds says the airline has warned impacted customers to be mindful of incoming scams.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business. Murray old Illy corresponding, Hello, No,
hello Heather, good afternoon to you.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Should we ban men?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Well, it's a very very vigorous debate over here, as
you might expect. All the data shows ninety seven percent
of child sex offenders ninety seven percent are men. So
it's not about discrimination. According to those who are supporting
this idea that men basically should not work in childcare centers,

(00:33):
ninety seven percent of those accused of sexual offenses against
little kids are men. And here's the thing. I mean
that there's allegations this afternoon that this alleged child sex
offender worked at more than twenty centers across Melbourne. That
and those centers have been identified so far. This is

(00:53):
the is the twenty four year old, I think a
twenty six year old a bigger pardon the twenty six
year old who's accused of sexually assaulting children at one
center aged five months to two years old. The accused
those worked at at least twenty centers. Here's the thing.
Twelve hundred children, The parents of twelve hundred kiddies have
been told to go out and get their kids tested

(01:14):
for your sitting down gonorrhea and chlamydia. So you know,
it doesn't get much more serious than this. So there's
very vigorous debate about men and being involved. And as
you say, there's a second fellow now, and apparently the
alleged child sex offender in the childcare setting only came

(01:35):
to light when police busted the second guy and accused
him of raping a young man fourteen years old, So
a child, I should say. So it's dreadfully, dreadfully murky
and horrible, and I mean people are freaking out, as
you might expect in Melbourne. And so there's very vigorous
debate about men, about how many centers, and the thing

(01:56):
goes on and on and on.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
Mus Although the proportion of sex offenders who are mean,
you know, it's a high proportion. What proportion of men
do you think are sex offenders?

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Well, I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's probably also a relevant stat right, I mean, just
because these two guys are creeps doesn't mean all men
are creeps.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Now, that's true, but you know, I mean, you're limited
in terms of being able to sexually abuse children if
you're working for price waterhouse. You know what I mean,
if you're in the army, but if you were, if
you are one of these people who wants to offend
against kids and you're in a childcare setting, it just
makes it so much more easy, doesn't it. And that's

(02:35):
the allegation. I mean, that's the and that's the argument
getting propagated over here today.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Listen, did Quantus lose your information? Did people nicke it?

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well? I don't know. They've not contacted me, and I
am a Quantus frequent flyer, but you know, all of
Quantus are frequent flyers, and I've not been contacted. But
those of us who have and those of us who haven't,
everyone who flies quant has been warned look out for
scammer teams next few days. Six million people caught up
in this massive data breach. You've got cyber criminals who

(03:06):
belted Quantus on Monday. I'm not sure what a third
party customer servicing platform is, but that's apparently what the
crooks use to gain access to things like customers names,
email addresses, phone numbers, birth dates, frequent flyer numbers. Quantuses listen,
no credit card details, no financial information, so no pens,

(03:28):
no logins, but of course what other authorities are saying,
independent of the airline, all the information they've got can
be used to create fake IDs in your name, in
my name, in my brother's name, or your cousin's name.
So you don't need over here. It's one hundred points
and you can create a fake identity and you've got
a holl of it, a whole bunch of points. When

(03:49):
you've you know, you stack up all of the quantus
ID stuff. Mas.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Why the fifteen year old boys shooting up houses in.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Sydney because they think a thousand dollars is a lot
of money?

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Is thatpt what they're getting paid?

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Well, that was one thing I heard on the air
this morning. As little as a thousand dollars, they've given
the gun, an address, a stolen car they I mean,
a lot of these kids will be so small they
couldn't see that at the boody steering wheel, and here
they are. They're given an address and a handgun. In
one case, allegedly, back in March, a fifteen year old
kid is accused of shooting up a home in Maryland's

(04:27):
and Sydney's West twenty eight bullets fired from a semi
automatic rifle at the same in Maryland's a woman and
four kiddies inside. One of the kids missed by millimeters
a bullet in his head the wrong address. For God's sake,
these kids can't even the boody a text message. And
then there's a second case and the you know, the

(04:48):
allegation is this fifteen year old also pulled the trigger
here with a second boy in April. In the second case,
they police are saying that the young woman was known
to them through associations the organized crime. But here's the thing.
It's called air tasking assassinations. I can get someone to
come to my house and do a tiling job or
a paint job or whatever it might be. These crims

(05:11):
dialing up would be assassin's as young as fifteen with
the promise of a thousand bucks. Imagine that. Yeah, that's
just crazy, isn't it. Please you're saying, Plinja're saying, this
is not a video game, boys, it is not a
video This is real life at debt. Yeah, and if
you want to do this stuff, you'll be in jail
for a hell of a long time. Yep.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Far too young to even understand it. Must appreciate it.
Murray Old's Australia correspondent. Oh, by the way, just got
a text from somebody. The crowds in Wellington who went
to see the Blue Bridge, which included the sun, were
drawn by free coffee and chocolate. Hey, now we get
to the truth of it. You don't care that much
about a boat ship ship, as somebody said on the
texts ship, but you do care about the free coffee

(05:49):
and the chocolate. Now listen on these men. I'll be
honest with you because I'm a parent of the age.
You know, I'm a parent with kids of the age.
A go to ECE and I am happy that every
single teacher at the KINDI is a woman. I am
happy about that because I like, I think, well, you know,
women feel safer to me than men do. However, can

(06:11):
I just make this point, and I think it is
an important point. Absolutely, most creeps are men, but not
all all men are creeps by any stretch of the imagination. Right,
The number of creeps, the number of men who are
creeps are tiny, right, And it's unfortunately all men suffer
because of these creeps. Also, while men may oppose a
sexual threat, women pose threats to children too. Right, that

(06:35):
go and google it. If you are made of sturdy
enough stuff. I can't google that stuff, so I get
too upset about it. But there are like countless examples
of women in childcare settings who neglect children, hurt children,
hit children, do all kinds of stuff, weird stuff to children.
They just really abuse them in a hideous to I mean,

(06:56):
just look at the nuns. Do we need to go
any further?

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Right?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
So you cannot actually, just as a rule, trust one
sex over the other. Both genders can be hideous to kids.
What you need is good vetting, and clearly that is
what's gone wrong in Victoria.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
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