Former broadcaster and journalist Oriini Kaipara is putting her name forward to be Te Pāti Māori's Tāmaki Makaurau candidate after Takutai Tarsh Kemp died, triggering a by-election.
Kaipara has an extensive broadcasting background and has worked for Mai FM, TVNZ, Māori TV and Newshub - where she presented the Saturday morning politics-heavy show The Nation.
NZ Herald political editor Thomas Coughlan says nominations close this afternoon, with more to be revealed in the coming days.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thomas Cognan's with us in Parliament. Hey Thomas, god afternoon, Ryan,
Good afternoon. So we have a former broadcaster in the running.
I did say earlier. Is the candidate but not yet
the candidate.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
For to Party Marty's Thomackimikodo se Yeah, or any Kaipito's
formerly of news Hub. I just think she left that
role in twenty twenty three. She was fronting one of
the afternoon shows. Thinks she did the nation a bit
as well, so so some political experience there. The nominations
closed this afternoon, so you know, if if you're looking
(00:34):
to throw your head in the ring, you don't have
much time and we'll get where we're We're thinking we'll
get a confirmed candidate by the end of the week.
For Party Marti Labor has, as I understand it a
quite a complicated constitutional process for this. So they are
actually waiting for the Prime Minister to set the date
(00:55):
for the by election, and once he does that then
their constitutional cogs can start turning and they can start
selecting a candidate as well. I do think that they
will be running a candidate. There have been some speculation
that they wouldn't out of respect to the fact that
that the former MP Taka tash Kemp had passed away.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I think she's going to be really hard to beat
for two reasons. One, they've got to party Marty's got
their ground game going strong, and they're not starting from
a standing position. But also Aladiny i've worked very closely
with her for many years, is an incredibly smart, funny,
you know, graceful. She's quite a stoic person, lots of money.
(01:35):
Won't get down and play dirty in the sampit or
get riled by Winston when he yaels out across the house.
That's not her EMO. So they should be very different
to Party Mardi MP.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I think yeah, And I mean I haven't worked and
I can't say claim to know her particularly well, but
I do think as well. You know that the electorate
obviously the race was lost last time Penny here and
they lost it by four two votes. Obviously, so Labor,
you know, if you're looking at the numbers, you'd have
to say, well, Labor is within striking distance of taking
(02:06):
it back. But when you think about it, you know,
twenty twenty three, all the things that have happened since
twenty twenty three, you've had the toytoo, tutidity movement, the
whole Tree Principal's Bill, controversy come up and to party
Marori has been prosecuting that day after day, week after week.
They've really attached themselves to this, you know, every issue
that is popping up in Maori, in the Maori world,
(02:29):
they've attached themselves too. So I think that the context
of this race is completely different to the context of
twenty twenty three. But you know, could be wrong. These
these electric races go a number of different ways.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, they do. Hey, this Select Committee for what Seymour's Bill,
the Regulatory Standards Bill, has begun. What are we hearing
so far?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, it's it has been pretty negative today. So and
most of the written submissions were negative too. We had
Jeffrey part of the former Prime Minister and today an
interesting submission from him. He made the point that it
is a very the sort of the work to actually
(03:12):
implement this bill. I think he had the number eleven
hundred statutes that that that are an application in New
Zealand and the idea of of of of regulating the
regulation when there is so much regulation is an enormous
amount of work, a terrific amount of extra work. Is
(03:34):
that is what he sort of said, because there's just
there's just so much. And the other sort of thing
I guess is that it is interesting to see that
a lot of the opposition to the bill that there
is the sense that some of it is fighting a
straw man. I mean, David Seymour was getting quite angry
calling his his well, perhaps not angry, but his Regulatory
(03:57):
Standards Bill derangement syndrome. There is the sort of sense
that some of the criticism is that this is a
somewhat constitutional piece of legislation that has quite a powerful
application that almost would be like a Supreme Court in
the United States, that it could strike down the will
of a government if it wish to. There has been
(04:17):
that kind of floating around the bill, that allegation, which
is incorrect. It doesn't actually have that power, which of
course begs the question what is the point of this bill?
And that is sort of one of the criticisms being
made by Labour's duncan Web that it actually isn't as
powerful as some of its critics think it to be.
But that, of course the question is why bother.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it. On the one
hand you got people saying this will be the end
of the world, and the other people saying it will
have no effect on the world whatsoever. So who do
we believe? Thank you very much for that. That is
Thomas Coglan and New Zealand Herald Political editor, with us
from Willington.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
For more from Heather Duplicy Allen Drive.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Listen live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Thomas Cognan's with us in Parliament. Hey Thomas, god afternoon, Ryan,
Good afternoon. So we have a former broadcaster in the running.
I did say earlier. Is the candidate but not yet
the candidate.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
For to Party Marty's Thomackimikodo se Yeah, or any Kaipito's
formerly of news Hub. I just think she left that
role in twenty twenty three. She was fronting one of
the afternoon shows. Thinks she did the nation a bit
as well, so so some political experience there. The nominations
closed this afternoon, so you know, if if you're looking
(00:34):
to throw your head in the ring, you don't have
much time and we'll get where we're We're thinking we'll
get a confirmed candidate by the end of the week.
For Party Marti Labor has, as I understand it a
quite a complicated constitutional process for this. So they are
actually waiting for the Prime Minister to set the date
(00:55):
for the by election, and once he does that then
their constitutional cogs can start turning and they can start
selecting a candidate as well. I do think that they
will be running a candidate. There have been some speculation
that they wouldn't out of respect to the fact that
that the former MP Taka tash Kemp had passed away.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
I think she's going to be really hard to beat
for two reasons. One, they've got to party Marty's got
their ground game going strong, and they're not starting from
a standing position. But also Aladiny i've worked very closely
with her for many years, is an incredibly smart, funny,
you know, graceful. She's quite a stoic person, lots of money.
(01:35):
Won't get down and play dirty in the sampit or
get riled by Winston when he yaels out across the house.
That's not her EMO. So they should be very different
to Party Mardi MP.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I think yeah, And I mean I haven't worked and
I can't say claim to know her particularly well, but
I do think as well. You know that the electorate
obviously the race was lost last time Penny here and
they lost it by four two votes. Obviously, so Labor,
you know, if you're looking at the numbers, you'd have
to say, well, Labor is within striking distance of taking
(02:06):
it back. But when you think about it, you know,
twenty twenty three, all the things that have happened since
twenty twenty three, you've had the toytoo, tutidity movement, the
whole Tree Principal's Bill, controversy come up and to party
Marori has been prosecuting that day after day, week after week.
They've really attached themselves to this, you know, every issue
that is popping up in Maori, in the Maori world,
(02:29):
they've attached themselves too. So I think that the context
of this race is completely different to the context of
twenty twenty three. But you know, could be wrong. These
these electric races go a number of different ways.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, they do. Hey, this Select Committee for what Seymour's Bill,
the Regulatory Standards Bill, has begun. What are we hearing
so far?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, it's it has been pretty negative today. So and
most of the written submissions were negative too. We had
Jeffrey part of the former Prime Minister and today an
interesting submission from him. He made the point that it
is a very the sort of the work to actually
(03:12):
implement this bill. I think he had the number eleven
hundred statutes that that that are an application in New
Zealand and the idea of of of of regulating the
regulation when there is so much regulation is an enormous
amount of work, a terrific amount of extra work. Is
(03:34):
that is what he sort of said, because there's just
there's just so much. And the other sort of thing
I guess is that it is interesting to see that
a lot of the opposition to the bill that there
is the sense that some of it is fighting a
straw man. I mean, David Seymour was getting quite angry
calling his his well, perhaps not angry, but his Regulatory
(03:57):
Standards Bill derangement syndrome. There is the sort of sense
that some of the criticism is that this is a
somewhat constitutional piece of legislation that has quite a powerful
application that almost would be like a Supreme Court in
the United States, that it could strike down the will
of a government if it wish to. There has been
(04:17):
that kind of floating around the bill, that allegation, which
is incorrect. It doesn't actually have that power, which of
course begs the question what is the point of this bill?
And that is sort of one of the criticisms being
made by Labour's duncan Web that it actually isn't as
powerful as some of its critics think it to be.
But that, of course the question is why bother.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it. On the one
hand you got people saying this will be the end
of the world, and the other people saying it will
have no effect on the world whatsoever. So who do
we believe? Thank you very much for that. That is
Thomas Coglan and New Zealand Herald Political editor, with us
from Willington.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
For more from Heather Duplicy Allen Drive.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Listen live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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