Full Show Podcast: 18 July 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Digging through the spin spence to find the real story.
Or it's Ryan Bridge on hither duper c Ellen Drive
with one New Zealand let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
They'd be good.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Afternoon. It has just gone six minutes after four for
a Friday. Erica Stanford on the program after five. She's
setting up a new government agency and a ministerial advisory group.
So she better have a good reason, because we know
how much the NATS hated those nosy people at open homes.
We have numbers for you on them. And we've got
an update on Judith Collin's help Center, a text she's

(00:35):
got back to us this afternoon. Dame Terrase Walsh on
the China Summit and what we need to do to
get further into China and spread our goods all around.
Some of those second tier cities are going to be
key for us, so Dame teres Lost will walk us
through that. Just after six this evening, Ryan Bridge, just
because the Brits are lowering their voting age doesn't mean

(00:57):
we will, does that, unless, of course, we ended up
with a labor government. I asked Erica Stamford about this,
and Carmelo Sepoloni this morning about Starmer's move over in
the UK overnight. Erica was a hard no, doesn't like it.
Sepoloni loved the change, said very progressive, this is where
we should be heading. Didn't say, of course, where the

(01:18):
Labor would campaign on a move like that, as they
did with local councils at the last last round. Remember
they had a bill in government Billin and Simeon Brown
pulled it out and stopped it in its tracks last year.
But the party has no policy at the moment anyway,
so we wouldn't expect them to tell us whether they
were going to do it or not. Did sound very enthusiastic,

(01:39):
though I have to say the whole thing is a
non starter anyway, because this country's frankly got much bigger
problems than where the sixteen year olds can vote right now.
And even if we did go there, you would surely
have to take another look at the drinking age and
the justice system. For example, as one of our viewers
on a Herald Now pointed out this morning, sixteen and

(01:59):
seventeen year olds currently dealt with by the youth justice
system unless the crime is really serious, like murder. How
can you have a sixteen year old electing adults to
make laws when the laws themselves and the consequences for
breaking them don't apply equally to them. Same goes for booze.

(02:20):
How can you say you can vote but not drink.
Doesn't make sense, no doubt. It's been a wonderful academic
exercise today chatting about lowering the voting age. But the
reality is, I just don't think this is going to happen.
Nine minutes after four.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Checking the point of the story.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
It's Ryan Bridge on Heather Duplicy Ellen drive with one
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Let's get connected and use talks'd be.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I'm also going to talk this afternoon to Mark Mitchell,
the Police Minister, about this anti corruption task force that
they've set up. So and Tolly is head of Transparency International.
I know, interesting career move for her, but she says,
you need to go with a big agency, staff it up,
get the money in the door so you can stamp
it out. What they've done is actually gone for a pilot,

(03:06):
so just a little toe in the water, and they've
picked six agencies that they'll look at, including Sport New
Zealand and Land Information New Zealand. I mean, are they
particularly prone to corruption seems abou odd to me. Anyway,
we'll talk to him shortly. Can I just say how
excited I am to have Mike Hosking back in the
building come Monday morning. He's going to be back from

(03:26):
his holiday because this studio is filthy. We need our
cleaner back. I was talking to the boys about it
as they left the studio, very excited to have him
returning on Monday, which means you will have Heather back
in your regular afternoon slot, and I will return to
five Am till six am. You can wake up early
if you're not used to it. Just gone ten minutes

(03:47):
after four. Now to the United States, we go. CBS
is announcing the cancelation of the Late Show. It's currently
hosted by Stephen Colbert. Colbert opened the show tonight with
quite an emotional monologue. He revealed that he was only
given a day's notice before we start the show.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
I want to let you know something that I found
out just last night. Next year will be our last season.
The network will be ending the Late Show in May, and.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Yeah, I share your feeling. So he was upset. The
thing is this show and no wonder they canning it
is because obviously Trump was sulling CEB. Nothing to do
with that. They say, this is a financial decision, but
here is why, two hundred staff members on this show.
Colbert made sure to reinforce that the party wasn't over
just yet for this.

Speaker 4 (04:42):
And let me tell you, it is a fantastic job.
I wish somebody else was getting it, and it's a
job that I'm looking forward to doing with this usual
gang of idiots for another ten months.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's going to be fun. Yeah, another one bites the dust.
Another TV show bites the dust. Yeah, interesting, isn't it?
Late night TV shows in the US. There's so many
of them, and it's a wonder that they are all
still going. Frankly, two hundred staff members for one TV show,
I'm shocked. It's eleven minutes after four News Talk SB.
We'll get to Piney on.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Sport next, it's the Heather d for see Allen Drive
full show.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
Podcast on my Ard Radio, Howered, my News TALKSBB.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
News Talks MB. It's fourteen minutes after four Ryan No
taxation without representation and vice versa. This is on the
under sixteen year olds. Oh sorry, sixteen and seventeen year
olds voting. Gosh, that'll be next yet no one's for it,
basically on the text machine. That's from Mike Ryan's Sixteen
year olds are more easily conned by the leftist ideology,
says Mark, I'm not so sure that. I was talking

(05:44):
to deleepafon Seca this morning from Business desk and he
made an interesting observation about the ACT that when you
look at numbers of young people who do vote, it
doesn't it doesn't play out to the extent you think
it might about them going left, more inclined to go
where their parents would go, which in a lot of
cases would be probably to the right. Quarter past four,
let's get to Jason Pine's sport. Hey, jas get I Ryan.

(06:07):
Now another injury worry and this is another last minute
one for the All Blacks.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, this happened last Friday, didn't We lost Caleb Clark
last Friday ahead of the game in Wellington. And yeah,
the history the repeating of history today with Rico Yowani
ruled out of tomorrow night's test in Hamilton with a
tight hamstring not worth risking. So he was going to
play on the right wing. He's come out of it.

(06:34):
In fact, though he was going to play on the
left wing, so it's a bit of a change. Sever
Reese has gone across to the left wing. Will Jordan
has coming on the right wing, and Jordi Barrett, who
was going to have a rest for this one, will
now wear the twenty three jersey. So I'm not sure
you lose a heck of a lot really when you
bring Will Jordan into a team.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Ryan, So I think they'll be okay.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
But yeah, we obviously hope that Rico Yuani's hamstring isn't
a long term thing.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, do you think at this point because the game
doesn't Matt, Well, I mean it matters, but it doesn't matter.
But if there's even a slight niggle, you pull them.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Off, absolutely right. Yeah, there's nothing to be gained by
risking someone who's carrying a bit of a niggle.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
So I think you're right.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
You say, look, get yourself right for when we go
to Argentina, which is about a month away. They play
two matches in Argentina August seventeen and twenty four. Absolutely
nothing to be gained by Rico Yuanni going out there
tomorrow night and perhaps aggravating something which he doesn't have
to now.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Tommy Smith is saying goodbye to Auckland FC.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Yeah, this was a surprise to me, not a big shock,
but certainly a surprise because well, for a couple of reasons. Firstly,
the World Cup is just a year away and Tommy
Smith wants to go to that World Cup and in
order to do that he has to have a football club. Now,
there's nothing in this news about a new club for
Tommy Smith. We just know he's going back to the
UK for family reasons, so hopefully he's got a new

(07:55):
club to slot into. But his influence on Auckland FC
has been really signal. You know, he wasn't a first
choice player when everybody was fit, but he really drove
the culture within that team. He was very professional, He
led the way in terms of things like nutrition and
looking after yourself and he was a real hype man
for that team too. They had a bit of a

(08:16):
tradition at the end of games at home they'd go
and get a selfie with the port and it was
always Tommy Smith holding up the phone to get the selfie,
so not need somebody else to do that.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
But yeah, he's he leaves with a.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Very respectable legacy and we wait to see where he
turns up next.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
All right, Piney, I appreciate that. Thanks so much. We
look forward to hearing from you this weekend. Weekend Sport
hosts mid day to three tomorrow and Sunday. Right here
on news Talk said b that's stas Pine seventeen minutes
after four and Mark Mitchell, Policemanister on his new task force.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Next getting the facts discarding the fluff. It's Ryan Bridge
on heatherd with the Allen Drive with one New Zealand
let's get connected.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
News Talk said be someone wants to have a crack, well,
I look under the hood at co option in the
public service, the Serious Fraud Office will lead a new
anti corruption task Force pilot taking place over the next
six months. I R d ACC, Ministry for Social Development
some of the six departments that will have to report
back to the SEFO by September this year. Mark Mitchell,

(09:16):
police Minister with us this afternoon. High Minister, Hi.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
Ron Humble, apologies have been a bit late.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Hey, not a problem. We cope without you, minister, but
it's good. It's good to you. Antolly, head of Transparency International.
Now she says, we need a proper, fully funded, fully
resourced agency you've gone for a quite tag limited pilot.
Why is that, Well, I.

Speaker 7 (09:43):
Just we wanted to get something started straight away, and
so that's why we've announced today through the Serious for
the Serious Forward officers announced today the Anti Corruption Task
Force pilot. And I just want to make it really
clear that New Zealand we still remain widely respected as
one of the least crrupt country in the world. We
should take pride in that, but this initiative is about

(10:03):
taking proactive action to ensure that we keep it that way.
So I totally take on board and Tolly's comments. This
government is taking firm action and that's why we announce
the task force today.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Why the sixth that you've packed, I mean, at what
risk is Land Information New Zealand and Sport New Zealand
of corruption.

Speaker 7 (10:22):
Well, Land Information New Zealand is the biggest owner of
land and property in the country. Sporting Z both outstanding agencies.
By the way, the same with Sporting ZEN. I'm the
Minister for Sporting Z. But we'd be naive to believe
some of the biggest corruption issues that we've seen around
the world in the last decade involved sporting codes. So

(10:44):
I'm not saying that that's the issue that we're facing
those types of issues. We're clearly not, but we want
to make sure that we're proactive and we want to
make sure that we insulate ourselves. We do and that
we're going through best practice to ensure that those risks
that are identified around the world don't come landing on
our shores, and that we maintain The top of the index.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Is Customs in there. No, because Customs the you know,
Casey Costello's a group that she's got that looks at
transnational crime. It's one of the often mentioned agencies.

Speaker 7 (11:17):
It's a really good point.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
I'm glad you've raised that.

Speaker 7 (11:19):
So yes, of course we've seen vulnerabilities in terms of
people at are high boganized crime and attempted infiltration into
the supply chains and baggage handlers and those types of issues.
Quite simply, Casey Costello is my Associate Minister of Police.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
As you've pointed.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
Out, she's also got Customs. We are very aware of
the situations there and so they're using internal measures to
make sure they're monitoring that very carefully. But look what
once the pilot is as complete, then as a government
we'll be sitting back and looking at saying right, what
is what are our next steps?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
But is it a bit weird to not include the
one agency you're most concerned about.

Speaker 7 (11:58):
No, because of that, we're keenly we have been since
we've come into government, and that's why Cases been very
proactive and making sure they use internal controls and audits
to make sure they are on top of that. I'm
not saying that they won't be excluded, and they won't
be included in the future, but at the moment we've
got the CFL has got limited resource. They're targeting. They're

(12:20):
doing this within baselines.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
So it's a resourcing issue. It's the problems too big,
too big an apple to bite a hole out of.
Over at Customs.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
No, No, not at all. Like I said to you,
Customs is already using their own internal controls because we
are acutely aware that there have been issues with baggage
handlers and issues at the border, and so that Customs
and Minister Costello are already well and truly across that, folks.
This is obviously there's been some agencies and ministries that

(12:54):
have been selected to be part of this pilot. They're
wide ranging from small ones to big ones. And you know,
we'll run the pilot, we'll see what the results are,
and then we'll be out in the government and the
cabinet will be able to take decisions moving forward.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
All right, minister, appreciate your trying this afternoon. Thank you
for being with me. Mark Mitchell, Police Minister. It's twenty
four minutes.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
After four, Brian Bridge.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
The Epstein files, that saga continues and this afternoon, actually
we could get some little crumbs of Epstein files released
this afternoon, potentially during this program, so stand very by.
So we all know. The MAGA supporter has been upset.
In fact, I saw video yesterday of them burning MAGA
hats and flags. So Trump's calling his own supporters looney's.

(13:39):
He's calling them stupid weaklings for pushing the Epstein thing.
Want you to release the files, Want you to release
the files. Apparently there's no client list. We told you
that yesterday. Now Trump has asked Bondi, the attorney general.
He has said, release all and any persinent grand jury
testimony to do with the Jeffrey Epstein case. This is

(14:03):
what he posted to truth Social based on the ridiculous
amount of publicity given to Jeffrey Epstein. I have asked
Attorney General Pambondi to produce any and all pertinent Grand
Duty test tomy, subject to court approval. Now, the Department
of Justice has now asked the court because the court
has to unseal the transcripts from the case. So the
Department of Justice has asked the courts to do that.

(14:26):
No time from yet on exactly when that might happen,
But if it happens during this show, bet your bottom
dollar we'll let you know what's going on. I don't know,
it's just a nice you know. Conspiracies are kind of
interesting once they get to have a life of their own.
It's like, do I think Jeffrey Epstein was murdered by
a government conspiracy?

Speaker 1 (14:45):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Am I curious to see the documents to prove he wasn't. Yes,
most definitely. Now, Kiwi Homebuyers, after five, we're going to
tell you about the survey one thousand Kiwis And they
asked them, what do you look at when you go
into an open, open home. How far into the closets
do you go? How far into the bedrooms do you go?
Do you open people's draws, do you go into their wardrobes?

(15:09):
Some of the responses to this. I was quite surprised by.
But the one thing that came through if you are
thinking of selling a home, not that I'm a real
estate agent, probably will be one day, but if you
are thinking of selling a home, then the wall color
actually very important to at least half of the people
going through your open home, even though it's something you

(15:30):
can change. And I know realist agents say that, but
apparently very true according to the survey. We'll give you
those numbers after five twenty seven out of four.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Came to all this Lanland talking.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Recording the challenging questions to the people. At the heart
of the story, it's Ryan Bridge on Hither Duper se
Ellen Drive with.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
New Zealand Let's get connected and news Talk.

Speaker 8 (16:02):
SETBT Judith, So can you.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Twenty five away from five news talks at B Here's
some interesting numbers for you. We've already lowered the average
cost of a building a classroom by twenty eight percent
in this country since Erica Stamford took over the education portfolio.
That means, according to the Ministry, that they're delivering thirty
one percent more classrooms last year. Isn't that amazing? So

(16:31):
they've managed to do that, and when she was asked
about it today, ERCU Stanford said, it's not that hard,
which kind of makes some mockery of the previous government.
Now the Ministry of Education is going to lose its
property Arm, so they will just stick to their netting,
stick to the policy of education, but they will lose
the property arm and a new Crown Agent will be established.

(16:52):
They will do planning, they will do building, they will
do all the maintenance, all the administration of the property
part of education. So that's what the Minister's announced today.
Problem is, it's not going to be happening immediately. And
in the meantime there's a ministerial advisory group headed by
Maurray McCully. What does that cost? Eric Stamford on the
show at It's twenty five to two.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
It's the World Wires on News Dogs Eddy Drive.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
So Trump's ordered the release of some Epstein documents, Dan
Mitchon here In a second on that, the former Attorney
General Eric Holder says the Trump administration's kind of painted
itself into a corner on that.

Speaker 9 (17:27):
For years, the right wing, the Marga base, Trumpeters followers
have pumped up the stock of the Jeffrey Epstein conspiracy
and now they've got to dump it because they realize
there's kind of no there there, but no one believes them.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Taiwan is holding a major military drill, the Live Fire
War Games, designed to simulate an invasion of the island
by China. A BBC Asia reporter is there. We'll be
seeing an air red drill as well as evacuations of
citizens off the streets, from shops and from a bus
terminal as well. Finally, this afternoon, a tech ceo in
America has been outed as having an affair at a

(18:05):
Coldplay concert. He and his HR director were at Coldplay's
show in Boston together, and you know the kiss cams
in America, one of those came up. They immediately break
apart when they're on camera, tried to get out of
the camera's view as quickly as possible, but Chris Martin,
who fronts Coldplay, commented on their suspicious behavior liveair or

(18:31):
so internet slews. Get to the bottom of it, work
out who he is, workout who she is, and yes,
apparently they were having an affair.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
The Friday Sports Tuddle International correspondence with Ends and Eye
Insurance Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
We're all number one of affairs. Of course, don't do
it in public. That's what motel rooms afore twenty two
to five, Dan, Good afternoon.

Speaker 10 (18:55):
Now my favorite, that is my favorite story of the
d If they had just looked normal and had not
ducked the camera, nobody would be paying attention to them.
But because they did that, they've gone viral.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
It's just just embarrassing, isn't it. And then you feel
terrible for the families too. Anyway, Trump has asked for
some Epstein documents to be released. This is after the
Wall Street Journal ran quite an explosive report about a
birthday card that he seemed to Epstein.

Speaker 10 (19:22):
He did a collection of letters, I guess for Epstein's
fiftieth birthday that was back in two thousand and three
or so, and it had a note from Trump with
an outline of a naked woman and it was inscribed
on there. And then Trump said in an interview with
a journal that he never wrote the letter or drew
the picture, and he threatened to sue the newspaper if
it published the story. Well guess what they did. So

(19:43):
in response to that story, Trump just a short time
ago posted on truth social that he's ordered the Attorney
General to produce any and all pertinent grand jury testimony,
penning court approval for this. I think he just wants
to try and get out in front of this, even
though he has been trying to to divert attention from
it now.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Donald Trump also well Caroline Live at his prespretory, was
fronting the priests today and talked about his health some
of his age related health is there's nothing major but
swollen ankles.

Speaker 10 (20:14):
Well, yeah, there's there's been a lot of I guess,
you know, concern or interest in marks on his hand
and then his ankles that have just swollen up to
and these pictures have been making the rounds on social
media about his legs and they do look very swallen.
The White House says this is a common condition in
people over the age of seventy. He had this checked out.

(20:35):
There was no evidence of deep vein thrombosis or arterial disease.
And the problem is that the doctors are saying that
this is kind of normal for people who are overweight
or in the obese category, which is where the President
has been for some time. He says he's not when
his you know health checks come out. He says he's
in great shape. But there's bigger concerns that these these

(20:58):
you know conditions, this condition could lead to things like
sleep apnea or may trigger a heart condition. So I
think that's why there's been so much interest in the
press about this.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, and just Finnie Stephen Colbert's late night show getting
the X. I was surprised to learn that there are
two hundred staff working on that shows. That's got to
be expensive.

Speaker 10 (21:20):
Well, it is, and linear TV is and I know
we've been saying this for a long time, but linear
TV is dying a very slow death. So there have
been cutbacks to late night TV. Here the Tonight Show
just takes four nights a week. Other late night shows
have gotten rid of their bands, their live bands, and
CBS says, you know what, we're not going to replace anybody.
After the Late Late Show ended with James Cordon and

(21:41):
now they're cutting the Late Show. It'll be over in May.
They're saying it has nothing to do with their ratings.
It is just down to the bottom line, and the
problem is the shows themselves aren't being watched in their
entirety anymore. It's more like clips, you know, TikTok videos
that generate the hits in the views, like James Cordon
did with Carpool Carryo. And so I think this is

(22:01):
kind of what we're seeing, you know, late night and
even some early morning shows are just having to go
away as these networks are just burdened with these these
massive staffs and budgets.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Yeah, it's the old it's the old beast that you've
got to feed and the cost of transmitting to Dan.
Appreciate your times. Dan Mitchinson with us, our US correspondent
this afternoon time now is nineteen minutes away from five.
Barry Soper is with us. Next, we have some answers,
some insight from Winston Peters because we've asked Stuart Nation
a thousand times are you going to run for New Zealand? First,

(22:31):
are you going to be on the ticket? Well, we're
here from Winston.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
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Speaker 3 (22:40):
Sir John Keys come out and said something quite interesting today,
well this week actually about the o C. I I'll
get to that in a second. Barry Soper here seen
your political correspondent. Hey bez, good afternoon.

Speaker 8 (22:49):
I thought you were saying, John Keyes said something interesting.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
Well about the OICR. Yeah, I think people will find
it very interesting actually almost potentially a little bit exciting
for people too. Now, speculation about Stuart Nash. This has
been doing the chaps for a while, but we hear
him from Winston Peters about.

Speaker 8 (23:13):
This, Well, yes, yeah, I would. I would bet my
bottom dollar that Stuart Nash will be on the New
Zealand first ticket or ballot become the election next year.
I've no doubt about that. Don't forget. Stuart Nash was
sacked by Chris Hopkins just over two years ago, so
not that long ago. He hasn't ment on politics that long,

(23:35):
has been doing up that pub in downtown Napier, but
he was sacked for telling some mates too much about
what went on in cabinet. And so Chris Hopkins is
not his greatest fan and he I think it cuts
both ways. But look, Stuart Nash is never in my view,

(23:57):
and I've known him ever since he was pen and
poll He's never been a great fit for the Labor Party.
He's too center right for the Labor Party that was
trying to drag itself back to the left. So he
was always uncomfortable there. I mean, you've even got people
like now Chris Troffers saying that he voted for the
New Zealand First at the last election. So there's a

(24:19):
bit of a swing towards old Winston if you look
at that last opinion poll. But if you listened to
Winston on the Country with my cousy bro Jamie mckaye today,
you were left in no doubt about how Winston Peters
sees Nash.

Speaker 11 (24:33):
Sure it's not part of the right. Stuart is a
very practical, grounded politician, like the old Labor Party was
when they got out there to build New Zealand and
build in destruction, did all sorts of things, and then
they went woke. In more recent times, set after Helen Clark,
they went totally work and they're not recognizable from what
they used to be. That's why Stuart's got no place.

(24:54):
It's called over the moment.

Speaker 8 (24:56):
So come home to Winston.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
It's all very well for Winston to say that the
did annoint just Cinda a durn post woke. Oh, I know,
I would.

Speaker 8 (25:04):
Think on reflection, Winston would look back on that and
say that probably that was as big as political state
that he's made and all the time he's been in politics.
And when you consider that Bill English had seven percent
more than Labor did on the night and I remember,
you know, I remember thinking, he can't ignore English. But

(25:24):
don't forget it was English that moved the motion of
to get rid of Winston from the National Party many
years before.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
And there was all the leaks about the super and
there was, hey, what about the Stephen Colberer thing? That'll
be speaking of Sinda a dune upsetting for her.

Speaker 8 (25:38):
No, I'll be, She'll be terribly sad, should be heartbroken.

Speaker 3 (25:42):
I was with her in.

Speaker 8 (25:45):
The studio for the Late Show in New York when
she made her appearance and made now what is very
famous invitation to Stephen Colbert to come to New Zealand
and she'd pick him up at the airport, which duly did.
It was going a bit overboard for a prime minister.
But nevertheless, I guess it puts New Zealand in its place,

(26:07):
a little country down under. But you know, and you
were surprised that the number of people that work for
the show. It's an institution in the United States, the
biggest rating show in the evening and they've even got
a whole theater.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Devoted dedicated to the Late Show, and I suppose it
would include all the camera, all the live crew, as
well as the producers and the setup.

Speaker 8 (26:34):
And they have a live audience. And you remember John
Key was on his predecessor, Dave Letterman show, and I
was also in the studio then, so I've been there
a few times watching our politicians perform. But look, this
is what Colbert had to say about the Trump settlement
with CBS. Don't forget he sued CBS over a sixty

(26:57):
minute piece and got sixteen billion dollars for it. And
this is what Colbert had to say, and about not
why the show was canned. But everybody thinks this is
what it was.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
I believe that this kind of complicated financial settlement with
a setting government official has a technical name in legal circles.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
It's big fat bribe.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
He's not the biggest fan of Donald Trump, and I
think that's been clear right from the start.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
It's interesting because Trump coming in reshapes the landscape and
the traditional media outlets that were begging him for so long.
I mean, look at that Morning Joe program on MSNBC. Yes,
they spent years dedicating entire shows to bagging the guy.
He gets in and they go visit him at the
White House. Yes, that's right, you've got to do it.

(27:48):
You know. Hey, a Prime minister and civil defenseman is
going to be visiting Tasman tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (27:54):
Yeah, that's Mark Mitchell who've just talked to. They're going
down to Tasman. I would imagine that there will be
some financial announcement there because the farmers have done it
particularly bad in that part of the country. And you know,
I would say watch the space, although nobody's told me
anything about what's going to happen when it be flying

(28:15):
over the area and the helicopter, but these visits are
usually accompanied with some sort of financial commitment from the government,
So expect that tomorrow, and I'm sure the farmer's down
there will be looking forward with some anticipation to it.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, absolutely, Barry, thank you for that. Very Soper Senior
little correspondent, will have him back out on the show
after six two wrap the week in political news. Coming
up after five o'clock, we are going to talk to
Erica Stamford about the classrooms, but we're also going to
talk to Jane Kyley, you know, Location, Location, Location, who
doesn't love that program, the Kiwi version. She's going to
come on to talk about these number. The survey numbers

(28:50):
on how many people go into when you go into
an open home, go into the wardrobe and then go
into the draws in people's closets. I think it's weird anyway.
Number I think will surprise you. At least it should
ten away from five.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Digging into the issues that affect you the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 12 (29:08):
The best advice I offer anyone, in fact, including our kids,
do it yourself.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
It's your life, your decision, your future. Do it yourself.

Speaker 12 (29:15):
This is the cost plus accounting that goes on, and
it's in power, it's in rates, it's an insurance.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
We need to look.

Speaker 12 (29:23):
And learn and then get our act together and apply
a bit of basic discipline to our long term futures
that doesn't rely on the government. Back Monday from six
am The Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bayley's Real Estate News
Talk ZIB.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
It is seven minutes away from five on News Talk ZIB.
Just speaking to Barry's Soopa there about Winston Peters and
his view on Stuart Nash and Laura. Our producer was
just reminding me of the chat that we had with
Stuart nash on Tuesday on Drive this week, and he
was well, not only was he very scathing of David Seymour,
which we'll get to, but he had some nice, warm,

(29:59):
fluffy feelings about Winston too.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
You've got Winston Peters, who is our most experienced.

Speaker 13 (30:03):
Diplomat walking a real tight rope in international affairs and
I think doing a fantastic job.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
We've got also Winston paying back the favor.

Speaker 11 (30:11):
Sure is a very practical, rounded politician.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
And this is what this is what Nashy thought of
David Seymour.

Speaker 6 (30:20):
The fact that he didn't know that, you know, Winston
Peters is the guy who deals with New Zealand's affairs
on the global stage and just just sends off a
letter of his own accord. I mean, what planet does
this guy on is?

Speaker 3 (30:32):
I don't know. Is it that big of a deal.

Speaker 13 (30:35):
It just goes to Seymour acting on his He's just
a bit of an arrogant little toss in my view,
so he.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Won't be joining the act party really now. The former
Prime Minister, Sir John Key. I think people are going
to like what he's had to say, but I'm keen
to hear what your thoughts nine two nine two. So
former Prime Minister John Key, this is reporting from the
Herald today, comes out at a conference he was at
this week, a Deloitte event in Auckland, and says the
RBNZ needs to cut interest rates hard fast and now

(31:05):
one hundred basis points oh, quote them, interest rates are
too high. I don't want to sound like Donald Trump
telling off Jerown Powell, but they should be one hundred
basis points lower. Seriously. There might be a little bit
of food inflation, but it's very little. Well, it doesn't
feel little, so if you're going into the grocery store.
But yet, Okay, granted, fuel inflation isn't much, he says,

(31:26):
And there's certainly no wage inflation. And even if there was,
I'd trade direct quote, I'd trade a bit of inflation
to get the place going. This is the kind of
gung ho stuff you want, isn't it. He also gets
the boot into adrienne Or and says, yes, he did
mismanaged monetary policy over several years. Quote Adrian fixated on
getting interest rates to zero. Then he fixated on having

(31:49):
them too high for too long. A lot of the
indicators of the Reserve Bank looks at are lagging indicators
there quite late to the party, which is true, and
they are making a concerted effort to try and look
at more what they call high frequency indicators so that
they can get a look under the hood more regularly
and get a pulse that's actually a little more accurate
and current than backwards looking. So, yeah, what do we

(32:12):
think of that? I think bring it on one hundred
basis points next month. I'm into it. Four minutes away
from five. After five, we'll talk to Erica Stamford, the
Education Minister, about this new agency that she's setting up.
Why do we need a new agency? Why do we
need a new working group to get us to the
new agency headed by the former education minister. We'll ask

(32:34):
that question. And then after six we're talking to Dame
Terrace Walsh, business leader chair of in New Zealand. This
is about the China summit she was at today in Auckland.
What do we need to do to hit some of
those second tier cities? You know, when we go to China,
we always go to Beijing, we always go to Shanghai.
How do we get into those more developing second tier

(32:56):
city markets. That's where our goods need to be and
Dame Terrace has some ideas. That's after six News Talks AB.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Questions, answers, facts, analysis, the drive show you trust for
the full picture. Brian Bridge on hither duplicy allan drive
with one New Zealand let's get connected.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
News Talks, Ab good.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
EDNEGA seven half the five A Geven mcskimming update for you.
We can now reveal the nature of the objectionable material
that was allegedly found on the work devices of the
former police Deputy commissioner. They were images of child sex,
exploitation and beast reality. Jared Savage is the head's investigative reporter.
He's with us now, Hi, Jared Gooday?

Speaker 6 (34:03):
Ryan?

Speaker 3 (34:04):
So why can we only now reveal the nature of
this material.

Speaker 14 (34:09):
Yeah, it's been quite drawn out.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
Let's see.

Speaker 14 (34:12):
Jimmy mcskimming resigned quite suddenly in May. It didn't take
long for reporters to start writing stories saying that there'd
been pornographic material allegedly found on his work devices. And
then and then that led into potentially objectionable material found
on those work devices. Now, as soon as we started

(34:34):
getting quite close and on those allegations. There was an
injunction from the High Court slap down on us by
mc Skimming's lawyer, Linda Clark, and that led to me, R,
m Z and stuff websites sort of banding together to
sort of to fight this injunction which was a non

(34:56):
publication order which was stopping us from reporting the exact
nature of the alleged objectional material found on mc skimming's devices.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Jared, how was the content actually discovered?

Speaker 14 (35:12):
So mc skimming, who was the Deputy Police Commissioner, he
had been suspended since late last year in December under
criminal investigation for a separate matter which we can't talk
about for legal reasons, but as part of that inquiry,
we've obviously gone through his work devices as part of

(35:32):
that investigation and on there have found this alleged objectional
material that has led to a separate investigation. And then
once sort of he was confronted with the alleged existence
of this material, he resigned shortly afterwards in May. So

(35:52):
that's how it's kind of spun out of a different inquiry.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
Right, so May he resigned at that time. What was
said about the reason for that resignation, So.

Speaker 14 (36:06):
The Police Minister Mark Mitchell came out and basically said
there was some very serious allegations that have been made
against mc skimming. He didn't specify any any sort of
details for that reason other than to say, look, if
he hadn't resigned, we would have we would have sacked him. Basically,

(36:26):
it was what it was that that was the sort
of the serious that the seriousness level, that's what That's
what Mitchell put it at. But both Mark Mitchell and
the police missioner, which Chambers wouldn't comment at all about,
you know the actual reason why, and it's it's you know,
it's been media reporting that's led us to this point
today where we can say it's because child seeks exploitation

(36:51):
and beast downity material were allegedly found on MC skimming's
work devices and that's what led to his resignation.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Also led to police reviewing their internal IT systems as
a result of what was found. What did they find?

Speaker 14 (37:09):
Yeah, So the day of the same day that mix
coming resigned, Richard Chambers came out and said, look, we're
going to audit. We're going to audit a review all
their IT systems. It came back to say it's pretty
much fit for purpose. However, there were some weaknesses there
which they are looking to shore up. It seems like

(37:30):
there hadn't been sort of regular auditing of police staff
data and Internet usage on their devices, so that that
had sort of been in place but had been halted
about four or five years ago. And Chambers sort of
has come back and said, look, well, the first thing
we're going to do is reinstate those random audits so

(37:51):
I keep a closer eye on what staff may or
may not be looking at on their devices.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
All right, Jared, thank you for that update. That's Jared
Savage the Herald's Investigative Report Order with an update there
on Jevin mcskimming time now eleven after five, Ryan brid
The Ministry of Education will soon have some of its
decision making powers taken away from it. The Education Minister
Erica Stamford, announcing today that a new School Property Agency
will be stood up and it's going to take over
the government's school property portfolio. They will commission, they will

(38:18):
administer all that stuff. Erica Stamford with me now home, Minister.

Speaker 15 (38:22):
Good afternoon. It's been a while.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
It's been a hot minute since I last spoke to you.
We spoke to each other this morning. Of course, So
why do you because you're taking this property away from
the Ministry of Education, what are you going to get
out of a new agency that they couldn't give you.

Speaker 15 (38:39):
Well, of course, you remember that we launched a school
property inquiry and a key part and the key finding
of that requiring inquiry that McCully and Bins did was
around the inflexibility of the system which was leading to
poor outcomes, poor communication, lack of accountability and not very
good value for money, and schools were getting pretty frustrated.

(39:00):
What we need is an entity that is run by
a commercially minded board who are captains of industry, who
can help deliver really good value for money and are
able to deliver property solutions in a different way to
drive better value for money. Because schools have a range
of different problems, they have a range of different abilities
on their boards, they all need different things, but the

(39:21):
Ministry has always had a one size fits all approach
and we have not had the commercial acumen. They're very
good people at the Ministry, but we want to drive
for much better results. This was a key recommendation out
of the property inquiry.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
And you're setting up in the meantime, a ministerial advisory
group to get us to this. How will the staff
members who you take on board with the new Crown agency?
Will it be less or will it be more? Will
the cost of it be less or more than what
the Ministry is currently doing it for?

Speaker 15 (39:52):
Look, that's yet to be worked through. But one thing
I can tell you is that the savings that this
will generate by driving far greater efficient sees will well
outweigh the costs of this entity, and so much so
that we are not going to be doing a budget
bid for this. We are going to be We'll just
be coming out of the savings that we create by
driving those efficiencies. We've already done a huge amount of

(40:14):
heavy lifting. I was able to announce one hundred million
dollars of school property before the budget because of the
savings we've already been driving. And look, sometimes we find
savings out of one or two property, you know, school
properties that we are underway, that would generate enough savings
for the entity to cover them for a couple of years.

(40:35):
So it will certainly pay for itself.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
No doubt. You've won the argument on the big barnyard classrooms.
Are you going to fund schools un barnyarding.

Speaker 15 (40:47):
One of the things that we will do with the
new entity is get them to start looking at that.
What we have to do is draw a line in
the sand and say we're not doing it from here
on in. We will also work with schools with their
current budgets that they have. We also have and we
will be announcing some top up funding for those school
budgets to be able to do certain things with their property.

(41:08):
They do maintenance and health and safety, but they also
have funding in their budgets to be able to reconfigure classrooms.
We will to see what we can do to help.
We've already had a couple of projects that are going
through the pipeline where we've just said, yep, put the
walls back in. So we will work as flexibly as
we possibly can with schools. But this has happened for decades.
There are still open planned classrooms from the early nineteen

(41:31):
eighties that still exist. I know that because they're at
my local schools. So it is going to take some time,
but we're committed to working through that.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
All right, minister, appreciate your time tonight. Erica Stanford, Education Minister.
Coming up after the break, we'll talk about how many
people in the survey answered yes to do you look
in people's drawers when you go to an open home?
Plus an update on Judith Collins and her health after
a bad dose of vertigo. News TALKSB eighteen minutes after five.
This is a quick text from one of our craigs, Bryan.

(42:00):
I was at an open home recently and we were
told not to open any drawers or closed doors in
the house. Clearly there is a problem with people attending
open homes. Barry Soper just told me that he had
a jacket stolen from it when he had an open home. Honestly,
what is wrong with people? We'll get to Jane Kylee
in just a few minutes about this because there's a
new survey out. Very quick update on Judith Collins. She

(42:21):
had a bad case of vertigo. Judith Collins has seven portfolios.
They include defense Space. I mean, imagine being the ministry
of all of space. It's a big place, very stressful.
She's also the Attorney General and we texted her because
a lot of you were yesterday were asking how is
Judith Collins? So it's all text you and she's given
us a text back, I'll just read it to you
in full. I'm definitely on the end, she says. I

(42:41):
was in the caucus meeting, started to feel a bit dizzy.
Eventually walked back to my office, felt okay, and then
during a meeting, I felt I was about to faint,
not something I've ever done before. And then I asked
my staff to get Doc Dorretti. So when you're in trouble,
you have called Doc Derretti. I became nauseous and incapable
of walking. Anyway, I'm getting a lot better, she says.

(43:03):
The point is not to get a virus as I
did last week, and then keep on going. And six
flights in one day might have been a bit much,
you think so, especially in the freezing cold, She says.
I'm so much better now, getting better each day as
I do the exercises that the physiotherapist at Wellington Hospital
gave me. She says, I'm having to retrain my inner ear,

(43:23):
which is verdigo for you, isn't it. Nineteen after five
Ray and Bridge Jim jack keeyes might be a little
nosier than we like to admit. So this survey I
was talking about when you go to an open home
seventy two percent of US admitted to snooping inside wardrobes
at open homes, sixty nine percent inside cupboards and draws.
Thirty nine percent of us look inside people's bathroom cabinets

(43:44):
during the open home. Fourteen percent check out the homeowner's
personal items and photos on display. Jane Kylie is a
Ray White real estate agent and Location Location Location, New
Zealand host with Me tonight. Hijane, Hi, Ryan, it doesn't
sound great?

Speaker 10 (43:59):
Does it not good?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Stats?

Speaker 16 (44:00):
No?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
But are you surprised to hear that? Or is this
reflect what you see?

Speaker 16 (44:05):
Very very surprised. And to be honest, in our world
and our farm are and the properties that we sell.
I mean, in eleven years I've been selling, I have
not had one item stolen or moved around or the
houses always looks the same when the vendors come back
to how it was when they left. But to be honest,

(44:28):
we keep a very stringent eye on the buyers that
come through our properties. If it's a big home, we
will have multiple personnel in the home as well on
different levels.

Speaker 17 (44:41):
We try and front foot.

Speaker 16 (44:43):
If anyone looks like they shouldn't be there or they're
not probably genuine buyers will keep a pretty pretty good
eye on them. And also we remind a lot of
our buyers, you know, sort of smile for the camera
or because a lot of our properties have internal security systems,
audio systems, so we just sort of joke and say, look,
don't say anything mean about the house, because you know

(45:04):
someone's probably listening to you. Just so people know, Max
whenever I well, if I can't watch them, someone else
might be.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah. Now is it okay? Because wardrobes I can understand,
because you've got to know, you know, whether you're going
to fit yours in there?

Speaker 16 (45:19):
Social awareness?

Speaker 3 (45:20):
Yeah, but draws no go zone.

Speaker 16 (45:23):
Absolutely, no go zone. I mean, are you when you
buy the house and move in, are those drawers going
to be there? No, they're not in the chattels. They'll
be taken away. So why on earth are you looking
in the draws.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Photos on the walls. I was always told you any
personal photos, family photos take down. Do you still advise
you all clients to do that.

Speaker 16 (45:43):
I'm sort of fifty to fifty on this one. What
I like to ask my clients is are you comfortable
having some family photos in the home, Because I really
feel that that makes a house a home if you
strip it of all its personality and warmth and memories,
sometimes you know, lose a bit. But it's up to
the clients, up to my vendors if they're comfortable as

(46:04):
long as it's you know, PG so to speak, you know,
so so you know, trying to leave them there, No
it scot that No, Jane, thank you, John, welcome, Thank
Kyli Great TV.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
On the show Ray White real Estate Agent and Location
Location Location, New Zealand host. I went to an open
home once with a friend of mine who's big lefty,
and he it was he was going to with his
girlfriend by the house and it had a huge just
cinder adoun you know, they had the cartoon style Obama
style T shirts of just Cinda a doing that they
made and it had just Cinda's name at the top,

(46:41):
her face and then it was either adaha or love
or something at the bottom. And I sort of walked
on and went, o, god, that's a bit much. Even
he and he is, you know, left of the greens,
he thought it was too much. So I think you're
gonna be careful what you put on the walls when
you're trying to sell your house. As you're trying to appeal.

(47:01):
You need to be as boring and bland as possible
and appeal to the widest possible market, which could be
a raging right winger. It is twenty three minutes after
five these talks, heb.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
After making the news, the newsmakers talk to Ryan first.
It's Ryan Bridge on Hither Duplicy Ellen Drive with One
New Zealand Let's get connected News.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Talks EDB five twenty six on News Talks, heb. We
keep hearing about how amazing chat, GPT and AI are
and yeah, sure they have their purposes, they have their functions,
and today they've announced that they're going to do a
whole bunch more with it. Like you can yell at
your phone book my holiday, you know in Fiji in September,
and here are the rough dates, and it'll give you

(47:45):
the best price, and it'll book your hotel. And it
pulls from your diary, it pulls from your email. It
gets all of the information from your phone and uses
that to make decisions almost on your behalf, at least
present the decisions to you. But we need to be
careful what information we put out there online. And case
in point, the data breach that we spoke about yesterday

(48:06):
out of the UK. It was bad enough then, remember
nineteen thousand Afghan names compromised in this data breach from
the British government. They worked help the Brits over twenty
years during the war in Afghanistan, applied to resettle and
their names get leaked by someone at the Department of Defense.

(48:28):
Names get out there. Now their lives are at risk
from the Taliban. Terrible story gets worse today. The names
that were leaked included not only Afghan nationals, but one
hundred British officials, including SAS members and six spies. Can
you imagine? And that was from one guy emailing a
list that he thought was one hundred and fifty people long.

(48:50):
Turns out it was more than twenty thousand. So just
be careful which buttons you pressed next time you get
on chat GPTA twenty seven after five news talks.

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Speaker 1 (49:06):
A fuffy j said, this life.

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Speaker 1 (49:19):
Moving the big stories of the day forward. It's Ryan
Bridge on hither do for see Allen drive with one
New Zealand. Let's get connected.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
News Talks V.

Speaker 17 (49:41):
Good thing.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
It is twenty five away from six. Y're on news TALKSB.
We'll get to an AB's injuries less than a second.
The list is growing, and thoughts on the players names
on the back of rugby jerseys. Our sports Panel joins
US Sports Huddle joins US. I should say, in a
few minutes time a couple of your texts because they're
quite good on open homes. We just spoke to Jane
Kylie from ray White and a study at well survey

(50:02):
at today that says a thousand people and basically loads
of us, most of us check in the wardrobes, check
in the cupboards and even in the drawers. She's not
buying Ryan, I opened cupboards, et cetera, to see how
much storage there is, how deep the wardrobe is and
if there is hidden damp or mold. Oh sure, that's
why you're doing it now. That's from Sandy. I believe Sandy.

(50:25):
I believe Sandy, but the number of people ants who
were texting in to say that because Jane Carly I
think she was joking when she said take down any
revealing or provocative photos of yourself from the boy I
was wonrering. How many people have that up on the
walls in the lounge? Apparently quite a few, Ryan. When
we bought our house at the open home we attended,
the photographer who owned the house had photos up of

(50:46):
his wife and her lingerie. I went to an open
home once and there was a reasonably acceptable, although nude
picture of the owners, and he worked in an office nearby.
Regards Richard Ryan, we have never agreed to own and
homes when selling. We insist on the agency working individually
with potential buyers on the back of a great marketing package,

(51:07):
says Jill. Jill, you sound rich. You've got to have
a nice house for individual open homes, don't you. It's
twenty three minutes away from six to Wellington. Now two
more candidates have ditched Rage Show's election ticket, Andrea Compton
and Dan Millward, both announcing last night that they will
stand for Counselors Independence rather than as part of Ray's

(51:30):
Independent Together group. Candidate Lily Brown already said she was
striking out on her own on Wednesday. Alistair Boyce is
from Better Wellington, which is the group behind Independent Together.
The ticket and he's with me now Alistair good evening.

Speaker 18 (51:43):
Good evening.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
Fair to say it's more independent than together.

Speaker 19 (51:47):
At this point, we're all about independence. We're not too
worried about the guys striking out on their own. If
I've got a belief they can make it with their
own networks and their own campaign, then we're fully supportive
of that.

Speaker 18 (52:03):
They're good candidates and they'll make good counselors.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
So they're good candidates. They've got good morals, they've got
you know that you were all with them, and they're
saying some of them that you know, in good conscience,
can't continue with the association, the tactics, all that sort
of stuff. I mean, that doesn't reflect well on the ticket,
does it.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
Well.

Speaker 18 (52:23):
I think what they're saying is we did a fourteen
a fourteen events road show on zero rates Increase, and
by the end of it we were under so much
intense media scrutiny and public scrutiny. We were getting up
to two hundred at the end of the road shows,
and we had political activists and hecklers and the media scrutiny.

(52:49):
These guys aren't politicians. They are real people advocating real
change and I think they found it very, very difficult
in that environment. But what that environment has given them
as a profile that they would never otherwise have.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
Do you think they regret the association with ray Chung?
I mean, and let's not forget. Do you think the
media attention's unjustified? I mean, when you've got when you've
got a candidate who sent an email about the mayor
with pendulous breaths and tempestuous sex. This is the outcome,
isn't it.

Speaker 18 (53:22):
No, this is a job Ryan, you know our works
and politics. Tory fan I admitted in the Post today
that she's bided at a time and put it out
in consultation with other political activists to damage ray Chung's campaign.
The reality is Labor do their own internal polling, and
ray Chung is way too close to Andrew Little and

(53:45):
they'll do anything to knock him out of the race.

Speaker 3 (53:47):
All right, are you going to lose anyone else before
election day?

Speaker 18 (53:52):
Well, if they feel as an independent that they can
get there better without our umbrella and without our support
and financial backing, then all power to them. We back
all these candidates, whether they're with us directly or out
on their own, because we're not a political party.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Yeah, fair enough. Are you aware of others that are
thinking about or have already left.

Speaker 15 (54:17):
No.

Speaker 18 (54:17):
I think they're all very tight and strong now. They
totally into it and up for the fight.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
All right, it's the hearty remainers. Alistair appreciate your time.
Elisair from better Wellington. The group behind independent together, as
I said, I think probably more independent than together at
this point. That's six. The total now that I have left
time now is twenty away from six.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
The Friday sports total with New Zealand South of East
International Realty, the ones for un massed results.

Speaker 3 (54:54):
By the way, you had all blacks. You know, we're
all preparing to play. So one one man, four down,
another steps up.

Speaker 19 (55:01):
I got your storms back into the Mao Jon and
how what big three minutes thirty one seconds.

Speaker 20 (55:07):
On Vinegor Thirty years of the Blues at Eden Park
and it is their spiritual home. We are working with
the Blues to ensure that they understand what we can deliver.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
It is time for the sports huddle on your Friday night.
Adam Cooper all Sports Breakfast hosts seven to nine tomorrow
here on News Talk, said b Adam Good at evening
to you, Ron Good, to have you on and joining
us also Abbie Wilson, One News Sports editor, Hey, Abby
got ran great to have you guys here. So another
big test tomorrow, not as important of course as the
first two because we've won the series. But Adam, what

(55:41):
do you make of well, the injuries and the summer
saying b side that we've named Yeah, well, I mean.

Speaker 21 (55:48):
I guess at the very start of this tour and
heading into the rugby year, Ryan Scott Robertson, the coach,
was very open about what he wanted out of this
series and I guess, you know, leading into these three tests,
he knew that the French side I didn't have a
lot of their quality to the top fourteen players from
their competitions back in France coming down on this trip,
and he was very upfront saying, yep, by the end
of this series, I want all the guys named in

(56:10):
my squad to have had it run around. So I
guess in some respects now that the series has wrapped up,
it's been you know, a bit of a tight wind
to start things off under the roof and dned it
a very comfortable win with some great plays, some good
trick plays from the all Blacks last week and a
good margin to wrap up the series of Wellington. So
why not give these guys a run? Who you know
within the All Black squads that the training week in,

(56:32):
week out, that they've been been part of the squad
since it you know, it was pulled into camps. I
have no issues with you know, some of these players
getting some minutes and and you know, keeping the options
open for selectors as to who is in your twenty
three for some of the big games coming up later
this year.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Abby, how big of a blow is it for us
to be losing Ricoux Yoanni at this point?

Speaker 22 (56:52):
I think it shows that they're not taking any risks.
I mean, they really said he's being pulled out for
a tight hamstring, so what was you a serious thing?
But I think, as Adam says, they're looking further ahead,
they're looking for rugby Championship. You know, Boden Barrett probably
by all accounts, could be playing if it was a
bigger match, but he's also being rested, so I think
it gives a chance to do what Scott Robertson said

(57:13):
he'd do and play all those extra players. Also, we're
not bringing in heaps of you know, It's not all newses,
you know the likes of Tyrell Lomax, Antonine Brown, Jacobson.
These guys have plenty of experience. They're just coming back
from injuries or concussions, and so it's probably good for them.
They're a bit of a run around and it might
make things a bit more interesting for tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Might do too. I mean it's already quite interesting, but yes,
you coright, it might add a little bit of spice
to it. Now, this Rebel rugby competition, the Saudi back one,
do we think, Adam, it's going to likely to succeed?
We're seeing them do this with other sports. Is this
something we should worry about in terms of talent?

Speaker 21 (57:49):
I mean I ended today, right, I think you know,
there's there's certainly money there. We know that was in
Saudi Arabia to back you know, new ventures like this,
and we were a couple of big names over and
I'm sure eventually, if it all sort of goes to
plan and they wrangle some players together, they will have
you know, squads of twenty three to take on each
other every weekend. But I do doubt that the caliber
of players will be you know, anything to write home

(58:10):
about and I can't see you know, the threat really
for you know, all Blacks to be heading off and
you know, cut short, cutting short their careers here in
New Zealand, given you know what the black jersey means
for so many people. As it stands, any All Black
right now could probably head to Japan in and a
lot more than what they're inning, you know, by playing
for the All Blacks, by playing super rugby. So I

(58:30):
don't think just by throwing money at these players it's
going to get people away from the All Blacks. Yes,
they might get a few marquee signings obviously Roger tu
vasishek or the end of his career could be a
good option for him, But that was probably you know,
some veterans, some well known faces. For me, is probably
the extent of that. The risk here that what it
would bring to rugby air in New.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
Zealand just some very expensive seconds abby.

Speaker 6 (58:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (58:52):
I mean we've seen them live golf, you know, like
it's the black jersey means something. But sometimes the money
that is being talked about it just a little bit more.
It's double triple what some guys are earning. I do
think that we won't see you know, your core. All
Blacks bey tempted, but maybe guys towards the end of
their careers, guys who have had some injury issues and
are maybe thinking I've got a year or two left

(59:15):
as yet, though we haven't had any. All Blacks go
on the record and talk about this. You know, Roger
making a convert back to Union, that's one thing, but
getting like a voting barrier or someone. I think that's
still a long way off for this league and to
sort of add their legitimacy.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
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your Friday Night. We'll be back in just a second.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
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Speaker 3 (59:42):
Adam Cooper and Abby Wilson on the Huddle tonight. Guys,
I saw the story this week about the Blues putting
out to their fans. You know, how would you feel
about us moving from Eden Park? You know, how would
you feel us making the move and going to Mount
Smart From just pure very little about it, but purely
from an optics point of view, I thought maybe this

(01:00:03):
was like a negotiating thing, more of a play from them, Abby,
what did you think.

Speaker 22 (01:00:09):
Far off the likelihood of them actually leaving the sort
of spiritual home of Eden Parks seems very unlikely. I
think what's happening though, is they're also looking at Mount
Smart and they're looking at Aukland NEFTC, and they're looking
at the Warriors, and it's a lot easier to sell
out a twenty five thousand Dodds seats at stadium than
fifty thousand. It looks better on screen, makes more noise,

(01:00:29):
They're getting a better fan day experience, and so maybe
they are wanting to challenge Eden part to change things
a little bit and just sort of put their feelers
out there. But I would be really surprised if.

Speaker 21 (01:00:40):
They most Adam, Yeah, I agree, I'd be very surprised
if they move. But I'm also very open to sporting
franchises really looking at this scent. And yes, they might
be doing a bit of bit bargaining for their own bank.

Speaker 18 (01:00:51):
Balances as well.

Speaker 21 (01:00:52):
But I think the likes of the Warriors and awkwardesc
as that we mentioned have really put I think all
sporting clubs on notice as to how to deliver a
quality fan experience and make fans feel part of the club,
part of the family. And we're going to have this
new stadium in christ Church, j opening very soon, which
I think will be the forefront of sporting entertainment in
New Zealand. You're going to be under a roof, You're
going to be right there. It's a big size stadium.

(01:01:14):
And so I think you know, all franchises around New
Zealand to play in you know some big outdoor menus
that are relatively unfit for for a lot of purposes
at the moment. I look at Sky Stadium in Wellington
that you know that the Hurricanes get very small crowds.
The seats are far back from the field of viewing
experiences and amazing. So I think you know the fact
that franchises are openly looking at this and saying, hey,

(01:01:35):
just because we've played all our games here in the
past and it's our home and it has been our home,
it doesn't mean that's where we have to continue. So
I'm pretty open to franchises looking at their futures and
getting the best value for them and the best value
for fans.

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
It's interesting that the role that a stadium can play
in making or breaking a team and its success because
it's it is a lot of vibe stuff abbe, isn't it.
I mean, I'm not one to follow a team religiously,
but I am a bit of a bandwagon and when
there's a vibe, you know, very happy to go out
to mont Smart and what to worry his game.

Speaker 22 (01:02:05):
It makes it more about the experience in the game.
And if you like the experience, then the results aren't
as important. And and so I do. I think it
makes it something that families want to go to, that
people want to go to with friends. Instead of going
to the pub to watch the game, they'll go to
the game itself. And I think, like Adam says, teams,
the teams that are doing it well are being rewarded

(01:02:27):
and the ones that aren't have a lot to learn.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Now, while we're on the Warriors, how they're going to
go to Rick and Adam against the Knights.

Speaker 21 (01:02:34):
Well, I mean, on paper, even though the Warriors had
those injuries, Ryan, you'd like to think given the Knights
are having all sorts of issues at the moment. Obviously,
you know, Carlin Palmer has his future. I mean, the
coach is under fire. Thanks for the season they've had
so far, you'd like to think that the Warriors can
travel over there and get a pretty good win under
their belt, because even under strength last week, I thought
they showed some some pretty good signs of promise in

(01:02:54):
the wake of you know, the shocking injuries that I've had.
Obviously Luke metcalfs as injury though you know that the
few replacements such as Tannerboard that came in didn't do
too badly. So you'd like to think there's a win.
But I never put a prediction on the Warriors when
they travel away from home run heavy.

Speaker 22 (01:03:11):
Yeah, I'm the same, never say never, and usually what
I predict is wrong. But on paper, this should be straightforward,
should be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Should be all right? Fingers crossed Snoop Dogg is buying
a minority stake in Swansea. This is a Welsh or
so another Welsh association with football. What is up with celebrities,
American celebrities, Welsh teams, just sports teams in general.

Speaker 21 (01:03:35):
Adam, Yeah, it's funny, isn't And I think you know,
it's kind of I think, and in many respects it's
a lot of these guys wanting to stay irrelevant and
stay getting attention and being at the forefront of things.
I mean, it's no new feat famous people and and
actors owning sports teams. I think, you know, just right
across the board, you sort of if you look at
all the American you know, NBA teams, NFL teams, if

(01:03:58):
you look at some of the ownership structures, you'll see
a lot of familiar names, you know, from across the
board there. So I think it's just you know, these
guys feeling what they want to create a bit of
publicity for themselves and be part of a bit of hype.
And you know, I've seen from the likes of rexim
from from other know, Netflix series and other entertainment options
that you know, sports entertainment is profitable if it's done right,
and it does deliver them and it gives them a

(01:04:19):
bit of publicity at the same time.

Speaker 18 (01:04:21):
So yeah, I'm all for it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:22):
Yeah, Abby, if you could, if you like money was
no option, you could buy any franchise in the world,
which which one day, this is putting spot. What do
you think you go for?

Speaker 22 (01:04:32):
Do you know how unrealistic that is? So I've never
even thought of it. I'd probably like an NBA team
just because I think having been able to sit courtside
at some of those playoffs. Yeah, just you know, you
are as close as you can get to the action.
I think these celebrities, though, I reckon they're using ownerships
not just to increase their relevance, but it does a
business prop. You know. If we've been welcome to Rexim,

(01:04:53):
Blake Lively drinks company has plastered all over their shirts,
so their football team promotes, their drinks team promotes, there's
something else, puts it on TV and it's just one
big money making venture and the wheel goes around.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Sounds great, doesn't it. And someone's going to pay for
someone's going to pay for her legal fees of course
against Justin Belbon next presumably that's on Wrexham. Guys, thanks
so much having with me Adam Cooper and Abby Wilson
for your Friday sports huddle. It's seven to six News
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Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
Four to six. It's frustrating flight Friday update for you.
There was a Quantus flight yesterday from Sydney to Queenstown
and QF one two three, which sounds simple. Enough. But
it was anything but. And you can just imagine it
packed with ossie skiers and you know everyone's chomping at
the bit. Had the slopes. Flight was delayed an hour
out of Sydney. Okay, fine, that's annoying but understandable. Then

(01:05:52):
pilot speeds like mark Lundy to get to Queenstown because
there's a curfew. Ten pm is the curfew in Queenstown.
For those have flown in there, you'll know that it's
their resource consent because they don't want noise complaints. Plane
arrives at one after ten. They are diverted to Wellington.
They land at ten thirty pm. They are still there

(01:06:15):
now in Wellington. Imagine coming all the way from Sydney.
So there I would have thought as a resort town
as well, you would extend. Come on, you want more
terrorists in there, don't you? Anyway? Coincidentally but unrelated, Dame
Terrace Walsh, chair of aerin Z's with us on China.

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Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
MB Good Evening. It is seven after Stick to business
here on Newstalk ZB for your Friday evening we get
to Barry Soper and the week that was in politics.
Shortly also our Asia Business correspondent Peter lewis with us.
Interestingly we have had the Chinese ambassadors to New Zealand
speaking to business leaders in Auckland today. This is for
the eleventh China Business Summit. Comes amid the tariff stuff

(01:07:17):
out of the US, of course, but also as China's
economy evolves and changes, just a lesson that we need
to keep up with that. Dame Terrace Walsh was there,
business leader, a chair of in New Zealand of course,
was there and is with me now, good evening, Dame traceda.
So what happened at the summit? What did we learn?

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
Oh?

Speaker 23 (01:07:38):
Well, we talked quite a lot about the recent delegation
that the Prime Minister led over to China and just
some of the learnings from that. So we were sort
of picking through that. We also heard from the Chinese
Ambassador to New Zealand just about some of kind of
the thinking about what's coming out from China at the moment.
And so yeah, we were just earning mode and sharing ideas.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
Did Ambassador one give any insights into their feelings about
Trump and about tariffs.

Speaker 23 (01:08:11):
He made a few comments, but look, I was focused
on the business side of things. He did make a
few comments, but he was very positive about the New
Zealand relationship. He was very positive about the delegation that
we have just taken over to Shanghai and Beijing. He
said it it had an enormous impact over there. So

(01:08:32):
we were of the kind of share perspectives on that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:35):
And a whole lot of.

Speaker 23 (01:08:36):
Things are changing in China, and so we talked about that.
He commented quite a lot on that too.

Speaker 3 (01:08:41):
What changes.

Speaker 23 (01:08:43):
So the demographics in China are changing. Basically, it's an
aging population. It's changing not so much into generational care
going on. You've got an aging population that want to
have fun or interested in health and nutrition. You've got
a younger population, more education, not getting married and having
children as much as they used to. So a whole

(01:09:04):
lot of changes there. We've also got these tier two
and Tier three cities outside of the usuals like Shanghai
and Beijing where the population is growing, and you know,
there are a number that are much larger than New
Zealand just as a city. And these are tier two
and three cities. So the markets that we can target
as a country are significant. But over there in China,

(01:09:27):
they're looking for our products in our normal kind of
sectors you know, dairy and horticulture and meat, et cetera, tourism, education,
but they're looking for something more going forward. They're looking
for us to be innovative, have more products that lean
into health and nutrition. Let me give you a number.
Every week, sixty seven thousand new products on Chinese shelves

(01:09:48):
and that's pretty amazing. Imagine competing with that. That's what
New Zealand's trying to do. So a lot of these
kinds of changes happening and more sc tier cities.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
I know this is something the Prime and has have
talked about before, you know, wanting to unlock them. How
do you actually do that? Is that? Do you need?
You know, when the PM does as missions, do you
need to go to some of that, not just Beijing
and Shanghai.

Speaker 23 (01:10:13):
Well, I mean ideally you would do the whole country,
but it would take a long time. So look, you know,
you do go to those main political hotspots in terms
of Beijing and Shanghai where you meet with leaders and things.
But actually I think from a business perspective, we get
a lot of interaction. What you learn and what we
did learn is that those Tier two and two Tier

(01:10:33):
three cities, you have to be really specific which city
are you going to go to, which market are you
going to enter, and if whatever one you pick, you
need to partner locally. You need to have people on
the ground, You need to partner locally, and you need
to move fast because these sixty seven thousand products a
week is a high product product turnover in China, and
so you need to be really nimble. And so we

(01:10:56):
need to be thinking like that. And so I think
it's just a question of your market strategies, right, But
there was a lot of sharing about how New Zealand
goes about that day to day in China and how
we need to refine. I think just one final thing
on that New Zealand. You know, we've got lots of
dairy producers and meat producers and tourism operators, et cetera.

(01:11:16):
We do compete with each other, but we need to
get to be a bit more team New Zealand in
China because it's so big and we are so small
that actually we can't afford.

Speaker 3 (01:11:26):
To interesting Dave Trees, appreciate your analysis and your insights
this evening eleven minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
After six, Bryan Bridge.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
So that was from the China Business Summit which was
on eleventh of them on in Auckland today, and just
to give you an idea of what Dame Thees is
talking about. So obviously China is our number one trading
partner and two way traders worth thirty eight billion dollars,
massive compared to what it was pre FTA. But New
Zealand makes up zero point three percent of all China trade.

(01:11:54):
We're not even in their top forty, which will be
of no surprise to you. I'm sure the middle and
population there though is five hundred million. And it's our dairy,
it's our fruit, it's our meat, it's our seafood, it's
our food. As Dame Teresa was just explaining that they
are hot for and so if we need to band together,
I mean we are so small. If we need to

(01:12:15):
band together and be rather than a bunch of companies
coming at the Chinese, but as a country coming at
the Chinese to make it work, then that's probably something
we should look at. Barry Soper Politics.

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Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
Talk zb just gone quarter past six, coming up next
to the ki we who's made the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders.
It's fun, you know, they are famous. It's a great gig,
but also very bad for your body. We'll talk about
that in a second. Right now, let's wrap the political
week that was with Barry Sober. Barry, welcome back, thank you,
nice to talk to you again. Right, So, big week, Dave, Well,
it wasn't really a massive week, was it, But there

(01:12:57):
were a few high points low points. David c landing
himself in hot water again.

Speaker 8 (01:13:02):
Well, absolutely, it's the first week back after recess and
I would have expected a few more fireworks around the place,
but it didn't really happen. This week was pretty low key.
The house was pretty low key as well. But look
David Seymour, David Seymour tends to jump the gun where
Winston Peters is the laid back. He was the deputy

(01:13:23):
Prime Minister, very laid back, and like I said earlier
this week, to watch David Seymour sitting next to Chris
Luxon and the house now and to watch. Compare that
to Winston Peters when he was sitting there. Winston Peters
and David Seymour got on very well together. And despite
what some people may think, Winston has always got on

(01:13:46):
with the prime minister of the day that he served.
I mean, you go back to Jim Bolger, they got
on really well together. Jenny Shipley of course, didn't get
on with him at all, and he was gone. Look
at Helen Clark, she really really on Winston. Peter's a
lot in the Foreign Ministry, did a great job there.
And now Chris Luxon, I've talked privately with Chris Luxon.

(01:14:09):
It's no longer private now because of course I'm saying
it on radio, But Chris Luckson really likes Winston Peters
and you can learn a lot from him. This man's
been around politics as long as I have. Dere I
say it right, But yeah, well she did like him
and rely on them. But yeah, it's interesting that here's

(01:14:29):
David Seymour and I happen to agree with everything he
said in the letter. I mean, when you've got an
amorphous body like the United Nations, I said to you
earlier this week one hundred and thirty thousand people worked
for the United Nations. The size of the upper hut
in the headquarters in UN thirty seven thousand people. And

(01:14:53):
you're going to ask what all these people do. The
United Nations will set up in nineteen forty eight to
stop another World War, We'll have actually done nothing. You know,
you look at Iraq, you look at so many other
places the United Nations would come out against. They've got
that ridiculous Security Council where you know they've got veto rights.
That's China and Russia. So whilst you've got that, there's

(01:15:15):
no point in anything going to the Security Council.

Speaker 3 (01:15:18):
But so David Seymour right message, Yeah, well indeed wrong
and person delivering it.

Speaker 8 (01:15:25):
That's what. And I'm sure Winston was annoyed because foreign
of his is his territory, it's not David Seymour's. But
I can also understand David Seymour being a bit hosed
off about being told about New Zealand law and how
it affected Maori by a guy sitting in Geneva. Yeah,
it's ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
Do you think that Winston gets some mileage out of
playing up David Seymours's inexperience, because he's mentioned that a
couple of times this week, subtly and not so suddenly.
But you know, I think there'll be a couple of
votes in that.

Speaker 8 (01:16:01):
Well. The thing is that Winston, you know, because we
all know him and we either loathe them or love him,
there's no doubt about that. But David Seymour is seen
and I think probably painted by Winston Peters a bit
as being a spoilt bratt and he is seen as that.
Although you know, having said that, you've got to look

(01:16:22):
at some of the policies that act as being pursuing
and say, well, you know, this guy is a very
skillful politician. This is Seymour.

Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
He is.

Speaker 8 (01:16:31):
It's some of the stuff he does. But Winston the
old war horse, you know, he trudges on and really
can embarrass somebody like David.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
S Thomack and maccoda. By election September sixth, You've got
this as a two horse race, which I'm unhappy to
see you discounting Hannah tommocky.

Speaker 8 (01:16:48):
I was just going to say, Hannahtomack issues in there.
That's right now. It will be a two horse race,
of course, between Penny Henare and you're end Kupra. Yeah, yes,
and you know, I see you've got to do a
bit of hot water over being too praiseworthy of her kids.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
I can't vote in the election.

Speaker 8 (01:17:13):
Yeah, she's obviously a nice woman, if you say so, Ryan.
But you know, I think when you look at election
night in that electric two votes were in it and
then it grew to forty two after the specials were counted,
and there was some question mark over that at the
time and still being investigated in certain areas. But yeah,

(01:17:34):
I think Penny Hennarre may well go back there, and
I'll tell you what. Labor will be doing everything to
ensure that that does happen. But don't forget they don't
hold a ma Re seat at the.

Speaker 3 (01:17:45):
Moment, No exactly. And yeah, it's going to be an
interesting one, that one, because I think to party Maldi
has got that ground game and if they will be
about turnout, won't it if you can get them out
to vote. The Barnyard classrooms thing this week, which the
Erica Stamfords put the kaibosh.

Speaker 8 (01:18:02):
On, Yeah, well, you and I had a bit of
a laugh about this because you know, trying to control
three teachers one hundred kids in a classroom absolutely absurd.
And I can't think what was in John Key's mind
when his government actually approved of this. No doubt the
Education Ministry is in his mind. But you know it

(01:18:24):
can never work when you're trying to control kids. And
I know controlling two kids at home is enough about
one hundred in a classroom with three teachers.

Speaker 3 (01:18:33):
We spoke to the principle of Runyord after we spoke
very on what was it Thursday Wednesday? The principle of
Runjord of High School had six hundred kids in one space,
and he's gave the closest thing to an answer. I
reckon about why the Key government did it. It's cost
Oh it's so much cheaper, of course, is yeah, of course?

(01:18:54):
Oh well they're gone and New Zealand First popularity doing
really well in the holes and Stuart National these rumors
about him. What do you reckon?

Speaker 8 (01:19:02):
Well, yeah, I reckon almost certainly. I would say, as
I mentioned earlier to you today, Ryan, that Stuart Nash
I think certainly will have his name on the ballot
paper at the next election. And even Winston Peters like
you heard him earlier, Winston speaking very nicely about Stuart Nash,

(01:19:24):
and Winston doesn't do that about a number of people,
certainly labor MPs as Stuart Nash once was before he
is sacked by Chris Hopkins. But look, I think Stuart
Nash would be a good fit for New Zealand First,
or maybe even act. But New Zealand First looks as
though it would be more attractive to this man who wants,

(01:19:44):
I think, to get back into politics.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Yeah, and wouldn't that be fascinating to see him as
sitting around the cabinet table with the National MPs potentially
after the next election. Yeah, Barry, thank you, nice to
talk to you. Right, Thanks Barry, that's very Soper, senior
political correspondent here at News Talks, twenty two minutes after six.
That was the week in politics. Next it's showbiz plus
this new police retail crime unit having some really big

(01:20:08):
wins early on. That's coming up.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
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Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
That'd be six twenty five. Scott Veson's sending a message
to the markets on China tariffs. Peter Lewis, our Asia
Business correspondent on that after six thirty news, right now
it's time for show biz. That's the cheering you can hear.
A key we born dancer has made the Dallas Cowboys

(01:20:44):
cheerleaders for the first time. Twenty two year old Faith
Ward born in Wellington, moved to Ossie age ten. She's
one of six rookies on the team for this season.
Have you thinking why do I care about this? Why
do I care about the Dallas Cowboys and the cheerleaders,
particularly of the Dallas Cowboys. Well, clearly you haven't been
watching their new Netflix show, which has been going gangbusters.
Part of making the team is a big makeover.

Speaker 24 (01:21:07):
Hi everyone, my name's Faith and I'm originally from Wellington,
New Zealand living in Perth, Australia. As you can tell
by the accent, I think today they're gonna hopefully just
give me a bit of a freshen up, maybe a
bit of a trim as well as in face framing.
So I feel like my head's quite heavy at the
moment around my face while I'm dancing, So maybe out
of a trim.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
Who knows, we could be going brunette.

Speaker 24 (01:21:26):
I have no idea, what to what to expect, but
I'm super excited.

Speaker 3 (01:21:29):
She stayed blonde. For those who haven't seen the series,
now the new fame comes with a price, and if
you watch the show, this is not a pomo for
the show, but it is quite interesting. Huge hole on
the routines take on their bodies. They jump from the
air land on the ground in splits, injured necks, backs hips.

(01:21:50):
Surgery is not uncommon, so they certainly own their keep
through the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. Peter Lewis after News twenty
seven after.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
Six, crunching the numbers and getting the results. It's Ryan

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Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
That is coming.

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
Please don't go Paris getting twenty five away from seven
on your Friday night. So the new police retail crime
unit they have managed to nab shoplifters linked to a
quarter of a million bucks worth of stuff stolen. This
story actually sounds a little bit too good to be

(01:23:15):
true for me, and I'll tell you why in a second.
But the rest Within hours of this new police crime
unit being set up, they're targeting retail crime and they're
specifically targeting your repeat offenders, your recidivus retail offenders, and
then holding them to account. So it's a tough new
crime fighting agency, right task force. And they come in

(01:23:37):
within hours have been set up. They've arrested a thirty
seven year old man. They've arrested a twenty eight year
old woman. She's facing nine counts for shoplifting. He's facing
five counts of shoplifting together two hundred and fifty thousand
dollars worth of stuff stolen. They allege. Both are remaining
in custody until the further charges are being considered for them.

(01:23:58):
This is the tactical retail crime unit started on Monday.
So you look, it's good news, it's great news. Lock
them up, you know, if they're guilty, of course, but
calor me cinical. Did the team put this together in
a matter of hours or did they have something ready
to go? You know, did they have a little project

(01:24:19):
on the side, and then as soon as they get
into gear they announce something. I mean, who cares? Some
two people have been arrested for crimes that are two
hundred and fifty thousand dollars and let's not forget it's
US that pays that when we go into the store
and we buy stuff legally, we're paying the inflated price
for theft twenty three to seven Cranbridge. Right, the US

(01:24:41):
trying to trade deal. Everybody's wondering about the deadline. Of course,
in Scott Besson, the Trade sectory comes out and says,
actually the deadline not so important. The goalpost is a
moving feast, if you will. Peter Lewis is our Asia
business correspondent, Peter Good evening, Good evening, Ryan, So how's
that news being met.

Speaker 25 (01:25:00):
So it's interesting because all the focus recently has been
on this August, the first deadline when these reciprocal tariffs
on almost every country in the world comes into effect.
We've heard a lot about Donald Trump sending out these
letters to around one hundred and fifty countries. But there
was another deadline, and that was August the twelfth. You

(01:25:20):
remember back in April when really the relations between the
US and China fell apart, despite the two sides meeting
in Geneva, they slapped tariffs on each other of one
hundred and forty five percent, which in effect brings trade
between the two countries to a halt. Well, they were

(01:25:40):
suspended for ninety days, and that ninety days is up
on August the twelfth, But we haven't heard an awful
lot about what happens after then, because unless a formal
trade deal is put in place, they are supposed to
tariffs are supposed to go back to that one hundred
and forty five percent level. Now, Scott Besson is saying, really,

(01:26:02):
don't worry, because we're working on it and things are
going very very well between the US and China. Now
we know that Donald Trump is really quite keen to
announce some sort of deal with China, even if it's
something small, it's not a whole agreement. And also he
wants to do a visit with Jijinping. He wants to

(01:26:25):
have a meeting with him. He has been very open
about it. I'm not so sure that Jen Ping is
that keen about having a meeting with Donald Trump. But nevertheless,
a lot of what's going on seems to also be
framed in terms of this upcoming meeting that Donald Trump
says is going to come sometime this year. But we

(01:26:45):
haven't really seen any specifics about a trade deal. We
have seen some easing of restrictions. The US has now
started giving export licenses again to Navidia, we learned this week,
so that it could sell its chip, its semiconductor chip
to China. This is a cut down version of some

(01:27:07):
of its most advanced chips specifically designed for the China market,
so that Navidia is not selling its most sophisticated technology
to China. And some people in the administration are a
bit worried that Trump is sort of backsliding on the
tough line he was taking on China by allowing these
export licenses to start a game, but he is keen

(01:27:29):
to try and get some sort of deal going. These
chips have been a sort of negotiating ployee in those discussions,
along with rare earths that China has put restrictions on
to the US. So the deadline is coming up, and
we wait to see what gets announced before then.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
What about Russia, because this week we had and we
spoke to a correspondent in Europe this week about it.
But you know, Trump threatening secondary terrorists on any country
that does trade with Russia, now that includes in in China,
they would technically be hit by this. Is anyone actually
taking that throat seriously so.

Speaker 25 (01:28:11):
Far not And this is partly because Trump is sort
of blowing hot and cold on his relationship with Putin.
He says he's very angry with Vladimir Putin and is
threatened within ninety days these one hundred percent tariffs unless
there's a cease fire in Ukraine. Now, there's not a

(01:28:36):
lot that foreign governments, foreign countries buy from Russia these
days because of the sanctions. But what this means is
that anyone who does business with Russia will then have
to pay one hundred percent tariffs on their business with
the US. Well, the main Russian business that goes on
in the world is oil, and it is still selling

(01:28:57):
its oil. And the two main buyers of Russian oil
these days are India and China. Now they've been treading
a typrope for a while saying that, you know, whilst
at the same time they don't support the war in Ukraine,
they feel they're free to buy oil on the global
market and Russian oil. Both India and China have been

(01:29:20):
very big buyers of Russian oil. The EU complains that
this is in effect really been financing Russia's a war
in Ukraine, and India in particular relies very very heavily
on flows to India. It's about two point one million
barrels a day, So if anything, India's purchases of oil

(01:29:43):
is going up. We haven't heard at all what the
two countries are going to do about that, and the
old price hasn't really reacted to it either. You would
expect that if Russia, if India and China couldn't buy
crude oil from Russia, it would be forced to buy
it from other opek and that would force the price
of oil higher. But we haven't really seen that reaction

(01:30:05):
so far in the markets, so people are sort of
taking this as another taco trade. What is known as
in the financial markets is Trump always chickens out that
when push comes to shove, he's going to have some
sort of reproch mom with Vladimir Putin and these sanctions
won't come into effect.

Speaker 3 (01:30:24):
Hey, how was the Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albaneze He
was up in China this week. How was that seen
from the Chinese side?

Speaker 25 (01:30:33):
Well, China has really had a bit of a turnaround
with relations with Australia. A couple of years ago they
were really under pressure Australia. China puts tariffs on exports
of beef and barley to China. Since then, China's realized
that it needs to have some friends in the region

(01:30:56):
if it wants to rebuild the global trading system, which
it's clearly trying to do. It's trying to build a
trading system that that no longer involves the US. A
big part of that is going to be nations in
the so called global self, the emerging market countries, but
also in needs allies in the Asia Pacific region, and
Australia is an important ally. Trade between the two countries

(01:31:21):
are about two hundred billion dollars. It was very noticeable
that this trip both sides were keen not to focus
on politics, not to get involved in discussions on thorny issues,
and to try and keep the focus on trade and
anti Albanesi took a lot of executives with him from
leading miners like Rio, Tinto, BHP, some of the Australian banks,

(01:31:44):
So this was very much focused on developing export markets,
developing trade. As far as we understand, they didn't discuss
thorny issues like Taiwan and other things. There was a
small discussion about Chinese naval vehicle ships operating near Australian waters.
But apart from that, this was a meeting that was

(01:32:07):
very much focused on maybe the easier parts of their relationship.

Speaker 3 (01:32:12):
Peter, fascinating stuff as always, Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondent
with us tonight. Thanks so much of your time. Just
gone sixteen minutes away from seven here on news Talks. Here'b.
We're going to get to our UK correspondent Gavin Gray next,
because they have made the decision. This is the British
government to lower the voting age to sixteen and that's
for all elections, so this would be right across the UK.

(01:32:34):
Now they already had it in places like Scotland, but
it'd be right across the UK. It'll be sixteen, and
it's for all elections, including the general election, and it'll
be in time for the next one, which should be
great for the Labor Party. How do the British public
feel about it? Because it was to be fear to
Labor one of their policy platforms, so people kind of
knew what they were getting in for. But now that

(01:32:54):
it's actually here and coming, what's the mood like. We'll
check in with Gavin Gray next, whether.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
It's Man microbe or just plain economics. It's all on
the business hours with Ryan Bridge. Can players insurance and
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Speaker 3 (01:33:10):
These dogs Right away from seven, we're just talking about
the police retail crime unit and how they've nabbed these
two individuals, one man one woman, who they allege stole
quite a lot of stuff. And this textas is run,
why are people stealing food? Have you considered why to
feed a family? Maybe cost of living et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera, Which is all fine, except that they stole

(01:33:32):
two hundred alleged to have stolen two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars worth of stuff. You can't steal that much food.
Surely you can't eat that much food. I don't think
it's the cost of living thing. I think it's a
greed thing in this case. It's twelve minutes away from
seven and Gavin Gray's with us A UK correspondent. Gavin
that we've spoken about this leak and it's affected Afghan nationals.

(01:33:56):
Now we're finding out more about Brits that were on
the list that will leak.

Speaker 17 (01:34:01):
Yeah, it isn't just those Afghans who had wanted to
try to get to the UK having helped British forces
during the Afghan War. It now materializes that the data leak,
which dates back now to February twenty twenty two, but
was not openly reported until last week it actually went
or a year before it was discovered, is all coming

(01:34:24):
home to horn. I'm afraid because now more than one
hundred British officials, including members of the SAS, the Special
Forces and the Security Services six were included in the
data breach. In other words, some of the addresses and
names some of Britain's most protected secure people were leaked

(01:34:46):
on this as well. And we're discovering in fact that
the person who put it on Facebook actually said to
the government and if you don't give me passage to
the UK, then I'm going to leak more next week,
which is why they had to act. And that person
who had been denied entry to the UK was then
permitted entry to the UK from Afghanistan. So one might

(01:35:08):
say bit of blackmail involved in that in some respects.
But look, we still don't know who did the leak,
We still don't know who put it on Facebook, and
the situation seems to be getting worse for the government
not better, but how somebody could just send a spreadsheet
that they's thought contained, you know, one hundred lines of
data and actually was thousands of lines of data and

(01:35:30):
one of the biggest data breach is going to cost
the UK and estimated two billion New Zealand dollars. Well,
I think that shows perhaps the lack of oversight measures
in the Ministry of Defense.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
It certainly does. Hey, what's the reaction being like, because
we've been reporting on it loads over here, lowering the
voting age to sixteen and seventeen year olds and the
well sort of all across the UK, including England. Now,
what's the reaction being like from the public.

Speaker 17 (01:35:58):
Yeah, a mixed reaction, and I think some thinking, well,
it's a good idea. They're youngsters. Why shouldn't they be
allowed to take part in the vote with a mind
of their own. They are old enough to get a job,
they're old enough to join the army, and they're certainly
old enough to pay taxes. The irony is that they
can't at that age get married, they can't drink alcohol,
and they can't stand as a member of parliament. So

(01:36:21):
now we're giving people the chance to vote even though
they couldn't actually vote for themselves as it were, they
can't stand themselves, and others are pointing to the fact
that it is perceived that many young people tend to
vote left center, so this will obviously improve the chances
of the Greens, dare I say it, but also of

(01:36:41):
a couple of other parties, including principally the Labor Party,
our current party of governments. So some are saying this
is a move by Secure Starma, the Prime Minister, to
try to secure Labor in Parliament more often, and also
just wondering about you know, do people really are they
that bother are they're interested in politics at the age

(01:37:02):
of sixteen and therefore should they really be voting? And
others are saying, yeah, absolutely, they are young adults and
they should be entitled to So a real mix of
feelings about this, but it does seem to be going
to come in if the government gets their way in
time for the next general election.

Speaker 6 (01:37:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
Interesting, Kevin, Thanks for that, Kevin Gray, our UK correspondent.
It is eight away from seven News Talks MP.

Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
It's the Heather Too for See allan Drive full show
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Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
News talk ZIBB five to seven. There's a Chinese swimmer
absolutely cranking it in the two hundred meter butterfly, making
waves in the pool, making headlines in the news. She's
qualified for World Champs in Singapore two hundred meter butterfly
amongst the fastest in the world. Her time at the
Chinese Nationals means that she would have had she been there,

(01:37:53):
she would have narrowly missed out on an Olympic medal
in Paris for the two hundred meter butterfly. Why is
this interesting? She's twelve, started swimming at well no started
training at the age of six, probably started swimming straight
out of the womb. I would imagine she goes to
a swim club in her Bay province in China. This
club is no and renowned for its butterfly and also

(01:38:15):
it's medley. Her times are faster than some are Macintosh. Now,
some of Macintosh is the Canadian who at the same
age was swimming slower. She's won three gold medals last
year at the Paris Olympics. Some of Macintosh was slower
at the same age than our Chinese twelve year old.
Her name is u Zidi, so look out for her.

(01:38:36):
It is a young sport, but twelve is exceptional to
be going that quick in the water four minutes away
from seven. That is it for me. For the last
two weeks. I've very much enjoyed being with you on
drive Heather. We'll be back with you. You'll be pleased to
know Heather is back with you on Monday, which means
the Hosk is back in his seat from Monday morning.
And I will be back with you from five am

(01:38:59):
on Monday, and I look forward to seeing you then.
And we're going out to some Fat Freddy's tonight.

Speaker 19 (01:39:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (01:39:04):
It's not nice to have to do two sad ones
in a row, to be honest, but yeah, that's just
how it's happening. Unfortunately, Chris Fayumu, who was one of
the founders of Fat Freddy's Drop when they was just
a bunch of people from different bands all jamming together
in Wellington in nineteen ninety nine, he has died unexpectedly.
He was also known as MoU or DJ Fitchey. He
was one of the co writers in a lot of
the songs and one of the founders and I think

(01:39:26):
one of the turntablists as well.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
All Right, enjoyed this for your Friday evening, and I'll
see you Monday morning, bright and early. Have a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
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