Full Show Podcast: 15 August 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Digging through the spin to find the real story storing.
It's Heather dupericy Eland Drive with One New Zealand. Let's
get connected news dogs.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
That'd be afternoon, Welcome to the show coming up today.
Just found out the small fortune it's costing us to
get out of that fairy deal. We'll have a chat
to Winston Peter's about it. Food prices are up five
percent in the year. Brad Olson on that, and also Mattterrell,
former chief of staff to Marco Rubio, on that. Pootin
Trump meeting tomorrow morning.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Heather Dupericy Ellen.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I don't know what kind of psychosis has taken hold
of the bureaucrats at Health New Zealand, but you want
to see these rules that they've put out about the
food and what food is allowed and what food is
banned from their hospital cafeterias. It is ridiculously, ridiculously prescriptive.
So what they've done is they put out because they
like wasting their time on nonsense, They've put out their
new National Food and Drink Policy and it's divided food

(00:55):
into three categories. You've got the green category that's the
good stuff. You got the category that's a bit naughty
but okay, and you got the red category and that's banned.
So what you are allowed to eat when you go
to the hospital cafeteria is chicken, but without the skin on,
so that you're basically left with the saddest, driest chicken

(01:18):
breast known to man. Yum, enjoy yourself. Beef and pork
that is allowed, but the staff have to trim the
visible fat off and they have to drain the fatty drippings,
which completely ignores the modern research that shows actually meat
fat is not that bad for you, and maybe you
need it. You are allowed to have a kish, but

(01:39):
it must have no crust. You are allowed a vegetable
slice or an egg cup, but they must contain vegetables.
A pie is okay, but only if it's smaller than
two hundred and ten grams, and only if it has
a potato top. What I've just described to you is
basically the green category. That is the only food that
they are allowed to display to us. Everything else must

(02:00):
not be within your eye sight because God only knows
what's going to happen if you clap your eyes on
a muffin. The green category must make up fifty five
percent of the food at the hospital cafeteria Amber foods.
Things you're allowed to eat but not allowed to see
include things like muffins and loaves and slices. They must
all be under one hundred and twenty grams. Savory pies

(02:23):
must be under two hundred and ten grams. Not on display,
nacho chips, white bread, dough boys, wraps, and pizza bases.
They are allowed to have icing on the sweeter things,
but they're only allowed to have very little bit of icing,
not a lot. Red food. This is food that is
recommended to be banned includes marshmallows in your hot, chocolate,

(02:45):
thick icing, chocolate covered food, food containing confectionery like Rocky Roads,
lolly slices, pebbles, worn tons. Oh that's not actually got
lollies in it though, but it also includes wan tons,
money bags, spring rolls, commercially flavored rice, are pasta, noodles,
and deep fried items. Now, I don't know what this

(03:06):
tells you about health New Zealand, but I'm gonna guess
that they've either lost the plot or whoever made these
rules has decided to run the cafeteria in the spirit
of a communist dictatorship, where adults must have every aspect
of their lives controlled for them. The fact that we
are adults and can decide for ourselves what we should
or should not eat is clearly not been factored into

(03:26):
this equation. Some of us actually enjoy to have the
fat on the meat very much. Some of us like
to eat the skin on our chicken hospitals, Do I
need to remind you? Are grim going to the cafeteria
to buy a treat for yourself, or perhaps your dying
loved one may be the only thing that that person
has in the day that brings them a little bit
of joy. Now, the thing is health New Zealand can

(03:48):
go ahead with this if they want to. It's their
cafeteria after all. Problem with their little dictatorship plan is
they only controlled their tiny little communist state. They do
not control the gigantic capitalists market outside of it. So
I don't know about you, but as an adult who
can decide for myself, I suspect I will be bringing
in my brioche, dripping in gigantic slabs of icing and

(04:11):
just eating it on their premises together.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Do for c Ellen?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
They suck?

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Don't they a raally suck? Anyway? They're with us after
five o'clock, So we'll ask them about it, just see
how hard and fast they are on these god awful rules.
Nine two nine two is the text number. Now, the
government is making disruptive demonstrations outside private homes and offence.
It says there have been increasing reports of demonstrations targeting
private residences of public people like MPs, judges and other

(04:40):
public officials, and the Justice Minister, Paul Goldsmith is with us.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
Now, Hey Paul, Hello, how are you, Heather?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I'm well? Thank you? Which MPs have been targeted?

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Im?

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Sorry, I'm still thinking about the chicken with the skin
on you?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
You eat the skin on your chicken? Well, yes I
do sometimes And look at the state of you. I
mean you're trim, aren't you.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
Well, but that's anyway, that's that's all the anxiety that
comes with political life, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
All right? So tell me which in peace have been targeted.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, I'm not going to go into that. Some have.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Are you wanting to keep it?

Speaker 6 (05:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Are you wanting to keep it secret to avoid encouraging
others to do the same.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Well, yes, it's not a great secret or anything like that.
It's not, but it's just the way I don't think
we need to talk about that, but the fact is
that some have and it's not but the legislation that
we're proposing, it's not just for MPs, it's for anybody.
You know, should be able to not have demonstrations outside
your house making a racket and driving all the neighbors crazy.

(05:38):
And at the moment, the law doesn't really enable the
police to deal with that effectively, and so that's what
we're doing.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Paul, my understanding Tell me if I'm wrong, But my
understanding is that some MPs who have been who are
involved in ways in trying to deal with the Gaza conflict,
have been targeted by pro Palestinian demonstrations.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Is that right, Well, yes, there has been some of that,
but it's not just that. I mean, it's a wide
variety of people. And look, so look we'll go after
Select Committee and people can talk about it because obviously,
you know, public demonstrations are important part of the democracy
and we're not about shutting that down willy nilly. But

(06:20):
where you're talking, I think somebody's home, somebody's residence, where
they live, where their family lives. It shouldn't be a
place where you're exposed to things, and you know some
of these things, you know, at four o'clock in the morning,
making a racket and all that sort of thing is
not ide you reckon.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
Judges will enforce this though, because I mean, we've had
some demonstrations that have, for example, disrupted the traffic in Wellington.
You've had all kinds of stuff that goes on and
judges just wave it through. In fact, they just let
these guys off so they might get this in front
of them, go no, it's totally fine, you're allowed to
do that.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Well, of course, the judiciary is independent and we won't
be sort of this. What we're dealing with here is
things that are targeted at individuals and their personal residence.
There are broader things. Obviously we have a general right
to protest, but there are, as you say, broader issues
in terms of whether it costs people and affects other
people's lives, and that's something that has to be weighed up.

(07:12):
But that's not the particular focus of this change.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Think your problem is going to be the judges. Now
have you seen what the Supreme Court has just done
with the river beds?

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yes, I have seen that, and I'll be asking for
some advice but of course it won't be changing the
fact that we're still carrying our head.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Have you fact your legislation on MACHA that you've already planned.
Have you factored this in?

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Not yet, but I'll get some advice as to whether
it has any impact on it or not. Yeah, but
it won't change the basic dynamic, which is all about
trying to get that balance right between the interests that
all New Zealanders have on the coastline, but still retaining
the ability.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
To the possibility that you actually do address this in
your updated legislation.

Speaker 7 (07:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Well, I'll get some advice on the details.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Okay, Paul, thank you very much. Enjoy your chicken skin.
That's Paul Goldsmith, Justice Minister. So what's happened is the
Supreme Court has just ruled today that riverbeds can now
be included in MALDI customary Marine title orders. So up
to now it's just been the foreshore and seabed. This
is the updated this is the MACCA legislation, the Marine
and Coastal Area, Marine and Coastal Marine and Coastal Act

(08:18):
or Marine and Coastal Area Actor, who cares anyway, whatever,
it's that act that's the one that replaced Halling Clark's
foreshow and seabed legislation. This has been contentious, remember, because
the Government set the bar this high, and then the
Court of Appeal came in and was like, nah, just
lower that right down. And then the Supreme Court's overturned it,
but not enough for the government blah blahlah. So they're
pushing through legislation to basically make it a higher bar
for EWI to be able to claim titles. What the

(08:40):
Supreme Court has now done has said that's not just
the foreshore and seabed that's caught up in it, it's
also river beds. And this is not the government's position
at all. The government's argument was that no riverbeds absolutely
belonged to the crown. So I suspect that once Paul
Goldsmith has got his advice come through, he's going to
have to start tidying this up with that updated legislation
going to put through shortly sixteen past four.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
It's the Heather du Bussy Allen Drive Full Show podcast
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Speaker 2 (09:11):
Hey, we are about I want to say my maths
is really crap, but maybe fifteen hours and ten minutes,
fifteen hours and twelve minutes away from the Putin Trump meeting,
So we're going to go to the US shortly and
get abreast of that. It's nineteen past four and with
me in studio we have Jason pine who's of course
the weekend sport host. High Piney. Hello, Heather, now Piney,

(09:31):
are you going two out of two for US Argentina
or half and half?

Speaker 1 (09:36):
No?

Speaker 3 (09:37):
No, no, Argentina two out of two.

Speaker 8 (09:38):
I think that's really yeah. I think if there's any series,
little mini series within the Rugby Championship that's going to
be splits, the South Africa one when they come here.
I think most New Zealand fans expect US to win both.
Having said that, Argentina are on a bad side. You
know they've beaten US three in the last ten games.
Those two of those were here in New Zealand, one
in Australia. They've never beaten us at home, which is
a little bit odd stat.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Didn't that be justin Wellington?

Speaker 9 (10:01):
Or yeah?

Speaker 3 (10:02):
No, last year last year?

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Argie's Yeah, they bet us in Wellington last year. So
what do you call home?

Speaker 8 (10:08):
You just said I've never beaten us at their home? Sorry,
their home here there I should have been clearly yeah. Sorry, Yeah,
there was a twenty one all draw in nineteen eighty five.
That's the closest they've got in Argentina.

Speaker 9 (10:17):
So it's been a.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
Long time, but they they I don't think they don't
fear that All Blacks anymore.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
The aura is not there.

Speaker 8 (10:22):
Having said all of that, All Blacks have named a
very strong team, the strongest available with I think Wallace
to Tt and to Mighty Williams only two who'd be
there if they weren't injured Scott Barrett's back.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
I think they'll be.

Speaker 8 (10:33):
They'll be highly motivated to show that France was just
kind of a shaking off the cob web situation across
those three tests, because if we're honest, they were never great,
you know, for long periods of any of those test
matches really, So yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how
they go.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
There's been a bit of chat about the fact that
Cortez Ratama has come in at number nine and that
that shows a lack of depth in the number nine.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
Is that fair well, I mean he was one of
the top three with Hotham and roy Guards, so you
can never legislate for having two injuries in a three
person cohort in a position. I'll be interested to see
how Aftimer goes. He feels to me like he's dropped
off a little bit from last year. It felt like
Roy Gard UTSI we're very close together last year. Now
it's Roy Guard and a big bit of daylight than

(11:13):
the rest. So it's his chance now, quartet to you know,
take the ball by the horns they had the number
nine shooters does fit on my back, Finlay, Christie's going
to get a go off the bench. I haven't seen
him since England last year, so long time away from
your lacks for him.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
So yeah, a little little curious little layer to it.
Then the number nine's.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, he's not too bad. I mean he's had heaps
of experience as well, so he knows what he's doing. Okay,
So the Panther's lost, which means that we are potentially
still in the top four.

Speaker 8 (11:40):
Yes, if we win, if we went tonight, we go
into the top four, which then means the Warriors controlled
their destiny for the last three games. They know if
they're won their last three games, they'll stay in the
top four. Last three games are win a ball. But
then the last four have been win a ball and
they've lost two of you know, two three in a row.
Huge game tonight, the really big game, you know, confidence

(12:00):
for getting back on the horse at home, the fortress
of go media hasn't really been there this year. But yeah,
if they would have win tonight, they go a point
ahead of the Panthers. Three games to go. They've got
their nose in front, heading towards the finish line.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
And how are they looking in terms of injuries, which
is what has been plaguing them.

Speaker 8 (12:14):
It has a couple have dropped out. Kurt Capewell has
dropped out now and Tomody Martin with his concussion last week.
But they get a couple back as well, So look
at it swings aroundabouts. They've been absolutely you know, afflicted
by injuries, but hopefully they've got the cattle out there
tonight to get.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
The job done.

Speaker 10 (12:32):
What junk?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
It brings you up to Auckland.

Speaker 8 (12:34):
I've got a Auckland FC event tonight. Yeah, they're launching
their their docu series. It's a special premiere. I'm sure
you were invited, but you've got other things I'm sure
to do.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
It's really awkward, isn't it that's really awkward for me
right now. Thank you, And I've been such a fan Piney.
I'm just you know what, I'm coming to the Phoenix
with you. These guys have let me down. Piney. It's lovely,
chatty and it's nice to see your face. It's Jason
Pine weekend sport host. He'll be back midday tomorrow and
Sunday of course for twenty three.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Moving the big stories of the day forward. Aw it's
Heather Dupers and Drive with One New Zealand let's get
connected news talks.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
That'd be Heather. When you talk to House New Zealand,
ask them to name the names of the idiots who
are trying to put the silly concept through most of
the privately run cafeterias will close. Such a good point.
I think the cafeterias are privately run like this was
going to rip their nighties on there. Imagining the staff
who have to stand there, You've sliced your you've got
your roast beef, you've sliced it. They're like, shash some

(13:30):
visible fat, give me the scissors.

Speaker 11 (13:34):
Know if that was your top, just slice of meat,
cutting off the visible fat. Shit, Oh shit, people have
stupid ideas. Do you know what if I came by
and you cut your visible fat off, I'd pick it
up and eat it.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
I love it anyway. Here that they control the menu
and that they cannot stop people smoking at the entrance,
I know, a like, that's a bigger problem. What's going on?
Have you been to Have you been to all the hospital?
If you live in Auckland, there are all these people
out there just sucking on their fags. You go, you're
killing yourself. Oh look I'm eating a want on me too,
Give me a break. Anyway, they're with us after five

(14:11):
o'clock of these dudes. These dudes are the health New
Zealand guys. By the way, I'll tell you what the
the list of the netballers who are leaving and heading
off to greener pastures is. It's alarmingly long.

Speaker 12 (14:22):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Kate Heffernan, she's going off to Australia. Tiana Mitsuro, she's
signed with the UK talent agency. Jane Watson has retired,
but we suspect us going to Australia. We'll wait to see.
Kelly Jackson gone to Pius Alby rick At gone. Caren
Berger she hasn't confirmed yet, but we think she's going
to Australia. Maddie Gordon gone, Grace and wickare gone. So

(14:43):
that's I mean, what's that one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.
That's got a long list of that's a how big
is Andy? How big is a netball team?

Speaker 13 (14:51):
Seven on the court?

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Oh so you got you got a whole team now
and the whole team and a sub. Yeah, whole team
and a sub is gone. I don't know whether that's
what they expected. I suspec it is what they expected,
which is why they didn't want to say yes to
Grace because then everybody else was going out to anyway.
It's for the for the better, for the silver Ferns.
We'll talk to the Sports title when they're with us shortly. Also,
I'm going to run you through what's gone on with
the old fairies, and then we'll talk to Winston. After five.

(15:14):
News Talks a b.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Venue, recapping the day's big news and making tomorrow's headlines.
It's Heather duplessy Ellen drive with One New Zealand let's
get connected news talks.

Speaker 14 (15:31):
They'd be w.

Speaker 15 (15:35):
Very well.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
God still see right.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Barry Sofas back from his sick bed, so he's going
to be with us in ten minutes time. We've got
Jonathan Kursley standing by out of the US. Now we
finally got a break a breakdown of the cost for
those fairies, you know, for breaking the contract with Hyundai
over in South Korea. It's costing US one hundred and
forty four million dollars just to get out of it.
One hundred and forty four million dollars, which means that

(15:59):
the total costst thus far of the Irex project is
six hundred and seventy one million dollars. So that's four
hundred and fifty in the infrastructure landside, you know, the
port infrastructure project, management of that, and then the wind
down of that project when we scrapped it. Then two
hundred and twenty million dollars in total has now been
paid to hion Day. That is the break fee and

(16:19):
also a deposit that we had paid. So just so
that you don't know, just to explain to you so
you're absolutely one hundred percent clear about what has happened here.
We have just spent six hundred and seventy one million
dollars on a ferry project that we have canceled. We
have not got fairies for it. We've just taken six
hundred and seventy one million dollars and flushed it down

(16:41):
the tout. So we'll talk to Winston Peters about what
a stupid idea this was when he's with us. After
five twenty three Away from five.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
It's the world wires on newstalgs 'dy drive.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
The Israeli Finance Minister has revealed plans to build a
new settlement in the West Bank. This comes after several
countries announced they would recognize a Palestinian state.

Speaker 16 (16:58):
Anyone who tries today in the world to nis a
Personian state will receive an answer from us on the ground.
The future I'm offering to Arabs in Judare and Samaria
is much better than any Arab has in Arab countries,
much better for them than if they had had a
past Indian state.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
Protesters are already gathering in Alaska, where Trump and Putin
will meet to discuss the ongoing war in Ukraine. The
meeting is obviously quite unpopular with Ukrainian refugees.

Speaker 7 (17:20):
I don't flaw anyone who trust Trump. It's horrible joke,
and this meetium commit terrorists UH residents for Russia. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
And finally, while all of this is going on, Donald
Trump has tried to secure the Nobel Peace Prize for himself.
He actually cold called the Norwegian Finance Minasty in Staltenburg
while he was walking down the street in Oslo to
discuss tariffs and apparently asked if he could also get
the Nobel Peace Price. His spokesperson This is Trump spokesperson
Caroline Livett, earlier this month made the case for why
he should actually be a shoe in.

Speaker 17 (17:57):
President Trump has broken on average about one piece deal
or ceasefire.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Per a month during his sixth months in office. It's
well past time that President Trump was awarded the Nobel
Peace Price. Could call it showing initiative.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
I gies international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace
of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Jonathan Parsley, US correspondent. I say, Jonathan, I've.

Speaker 10 (18:22):
Known to everybody across New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Now tell me what you'll take is We've got this
meeting in less than fifteen hours. Now do you think
this is going to be a bust or are we
going to get something out of it?

Speaker 10 (18:34):
Donald Trump's going to want something out of it. But
it's hard to see how he gets anything out of
it without volotimous Zelensky at the table, because Ukraine's made
its position abundantly clear that it's not going to hand
over anything without actually being present. I mean, under Ukrainian law,
any sort of ceasepy deal has to go through their
parliament anyway. So it's hard to see exactly what comes

(18:56):
out of the summer that is now due. In just
a matter of hours time, Donald Trump will leave, will
leave for Anchorage, Vladimir Putin will arrive, they will hold
these talks. They will then disappear in inside their delegations,
and then, according to Russian media, there are plans for
a joint media conference. It cast you mind back to

(19:16):
Helsinki this summit. Back in twenty eighteen, the two of
them stood side by side at a joint press conference.
Then that was the last time they have done so,
and on that occasion, Donald Trump sided with Vladimir Putin
rather than the CIA as to whether or not Russia
had interfered in the twenty sixteen election. So there's going
to be a lot of eyes if that press conference
goes ahead on the body language between the two The

(19:37):
answers to the various questions that they may give. But
I think crucially you've got to watch this one on
one summit. First, they will have interpreters in the room.
What is the exchange going to be like between them
or the cameras are there? The handshake takes place, This
is just an extraordinary moment in history because here you have,
for the first time in a decade or so, a

(19:58):
Russian president on a me American soil. It is quite
simply extraordinary, given too that the ICC warrants that are
out against Vladimir Putin means he can't go to other
various countries. The United States doesn't recognize the ICC, so
they've allowed him to hear and they're welcoming him to Alaska,
which I mean, if you have a look at the
mainland between Alaska and Russia, you can see the geography

(20:20):
reason as to why they've picked this venue at some
eighty five kilometers from the edge of Alaska to the
edge of Russia. But it is going to be critical
this meeting tomorrow, but it's hard to see what conclusions
can come out of it unless Donald Trump can get
something specific from Vladimir Putin that he can very quickly
get to voladimirs Alenski, in which case this talk of

(20:41):
the second summit, well, that may take place, and that
is going to be the critical juncture because that is
when Ukraine is going to have a seat at the table.
And that is when and imagine the optics of that
Voladimire's Alenski, Vladimir Putin, Donald Trump all in the same room,
staring at each other from across a table or from
across warrior. They may be seated or standing. It is

(21:02):
just going to be quite simply extraordinary because there's plenty
at stake in this, for Ukraine, for Europe, for the
United States, and for much of the world too, because
you can imagine China is going to be watching the
outcome of this very very closely with its plans to
want to retake complete control.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
So one, yeah, absolutely, that's a very fair point, do
you think. I mean, we've laughed about the fact that
Donald Trump wants the Nobel Peace Prize, but if he
manages to broke receease fire deal here, does he actually
deserve it.

Speaker 10 (21:29):
If he can end the Russia Ukraine War, then I
think he would very much firmly have a footing on
a nomination at least anyway and seriously been considered by
the Nobel Peace Prize Committee. He says he is a
peace maker, a deal maker. He says that he has
ended six conflicts since his presidency began, but ultimately there

(21:50):
are two he had his heart set on two. He
had his mindset on Russia, Ukraine he said he could
solve in twenty four hours, and the conflict between israelanhi Mus.
Neither of those have been as of yet. So those
are clearly conflicts that he wants to look into. This
is why you've seen him look at issues between other
nations in Africa, between India and Pakistan. He wants to

(22:12):
be seen as a peacemaker president. This is clearly the
legacy that he wants to give. The question, really, I
think in the short term is going to be can
this conflict somehow find a way to an end, because
ultimately Vladimir Putin is also going to try and sweep
talk Donald Trump. He's going to try and get something
out of him. He knows that he's got to up

(22:33):
his own game against the American president, who's expressed his
own frustrations with him. So there's going to be a
have to be a little bit of give and take.
The question is, though, what is Donald Trump prepared to
give and what is he going to take to Ukraine
and to Europe as the outcome of whatever this summit
comes to tomorrow? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Hey, very quickly?

Speaker 18 (22:52):
Were you?

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Were you absolutely thrilled with what Tata announced?

Speaker 10 (22:57):
Tato's announcement was astonishing, wasn't it that? I think we've
got to tracks on the album. We've got October three
market in your calendar's swifties you already have, and then
imagine yourselves another tour, maybe maybe an era's documentary. Can
we see that in the works?

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Who knew? Who knew that you went over there and
you've come back. Yeah, you're going to come back a
Tata fan. Thank you so much, Jonathan, appreciate it. Jonathan Keursley,
US correspondent, seventeen away from five Heller do for see Allen, Hey,
I didn't know this, did you know that two we
could mimic the human voice? As in, like you know
two we that well? I mean sands to reason they
mimicked doorbells, don't they? But the beautiful tooe that wake

(23:34):
you up at four am in the summer with that
that song, they can actually mimic human voices because there's
one that lives at the Kiwi House and Altadahunga, And
this is him trying out a couple of phrases.

Speaker 19 (23:45):
Hey buddy, Hey, did you hear that?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
So he made a little noise and then he said yeah, boy,
and then said, hey buddy, have a listen, Hey buddy,
isn't that amazing? I think that I'm not even I'm
not even taking the mickey. I think that is incredible.
Sixteen away from five.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Politics with Centric Credit, check your customers and get payments thirtaty.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Listen, if you want to get to Parliament, I've got
a way for you to get in. So just hang
on and I'll tell you about that shortly. It's fourteen
away from five. Barry Sober, Senior Political Correspondence with US Barry.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yes, he you've just convinced me that it was the
bird that you don't believe that was the bird?

Speaker 9 (24:25):
I didn't know, but I do now because you've insisted
that it was.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's amazing, isn't it isn't I'm at risk of going
on a bit hard about this, but I do think
that is not AI. Well, God only knows everything can
be AI. Now, does it sound to you as if
we're going to change the rules so foreigners can buy
houses here?

Speaker 9 (24:43):
I think almost inevitably. Nikola Willis sat down with interviewers
Carol Massar and Tim Stanovic from Bloomberg Business Weekly in
New York today and she talked about the fifteen percent tariffs,
saying that they were not expecting to be able to
bring them down with the Trump administration. She was asked though,

(25:05):
about foreign investors being allowed to buy homes here and
probably told us what we really already know that help
is on the way, that is excluded.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
Our government, which is comprised of three parties, has been
in discussion about loosening those regulations so that those who
get an active investor visa may in future be able
to purchase a proper is the future?

Speaker 20 (25:29):
What are we talking about for a timeline here?

Speaker 6 (25:31):
Those talks have been underway, and you would expect that
a decision would be made by our cabinet in the
coming weeks.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
In the coming weeks, So Carol, get ready.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Your little slice of paradise. We're surrounded by a big,
fat option. I know, we have huge amounts of land.
It's beautiful. I think the world should be looking at
New Zealand. We have great prospects.

Speaker 9 (25:53):
So the female interviewer there, she is a keen sailor.
But I think essentially, given what she said, Winston Peters
has agreed that foreigners should be able to buy houses there,
and I think he should agree to it, because if
you've got a lot of money coming to New Zealand
and you're going to invest it in this country, why
shouldn't you.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Yeah, of course you want to buy a house. Okay,
we'll talk to him when he's with us after five
o'clock about that. What do you make of the Supreme
Court ruling on the river beds?

Speaker 9 (26:21):
I found it interesting, Paul Goldsmith he was not really
committing to, in fact, challenging this ruling as well as
they did with the other Supreme Court ruling. I think
it's inevitable these river beds. In fact, they've got to
be a certain with able to take craft boats on

(26:41):
the river and then they fall in the classification of
under the marine and coastal is navigable. Yeah, yes they
do so. Yeah, it's a case, isn't it though? Of
the Supreme Court knowing full well, I would imagine when
they made that decision that the government would no doubt
turner as they did in the earlier decision and overturn it.

(27:03):
And just you know, it raises this whole prospect of
the independence of the judiciary from Parliament. Parliament is the
ultimate court in the land, so they have the right
to make the legislation and make it the way they
want it to be interpreted.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Yes, the courts though not.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Well, both of them are acting as they should interpreted
and Parliament's going no, you're wrongly interpreted. I'm going to
change it. I mean, you can still accuse the Supreme
Court of being activists, though, can't you. Well, you could
do yes, yes, Now, I don't quite know how to
raise this with you. I'm afraid of your tds. But
do you want to talk about Trump, the Trump arrangement syndrome?

Speaker 9 (27:42):
Do you know a bit of refrain from talking about Trump?

Speaker 2 (27:45):
You will because you've related on the Saving Barry and
realized that publicly on air.

Speaker 9 (27:50):
That I have the Trumped arrangement syndrome, and I think
any sane human being will have the same thing. Nevertheless,
here we go to it. Yes, going into the meeting, tomorrow.
This is a massaging exercise for Donald Trump. I think
Putin is playing his old game with Trump, and Trump
will come away from it not looking that good because

(28:12):
Putin is not a person to be trifled with, as
Trump has found out in the past. And how can
you make agreements with a country that's not even present
at the about a country that's not even present at
the table? Do you know there's a certain irony, Heather
in this meeting taking place in Alaska because Alaska used

(28:32):
to belong to Russia. It was Russian. Yes, indeed they are,
and here they are now talking about, no doubt the
Ukraine surrendering part of its land. Well, Putin, I think
will feel rather comfortable and anchorages.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Okay, so.

Speaker 15 (28:50):
Do you so?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
Do you accept that this is the meeting ahead, this
will be the first of a series of meetings if
there is a ceasefire deal? Do you accept that, well,
Trump strike a deal at this meeting?

Speaker 9 (29:00):
Trump for Trump saying there's a twenty five percent chance
that it won't succeed. That is massive for Trump.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
I want you to answer my question. Do you accept
that this will be the first in a series of meetings?
If there is a cease fire deal.

Speaker 9 (29:11):
Oh indeed there will be.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
Okay, and are you telling me that you will? You
do not believe this will end in a cease fire deal.

Speaker 9 (29:19):
I have my absolute doubts about condisions. Zelenski. You know
he's not about to throw down. He's going to have
to throw down them or raise the.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
World's going to happen. He's going to have to give
up some land. So go and then put your money
on the fact that there's no cease fire deal. No,
I don't think that, Okay, Bodlagen, Yeah, okay, great, take
you up on it. I sat, I reckon there will
be a cease fire deal, and it's on. Barry Soap
is going to be back with us. Quarter past Sex
and rap. The political week then eight away from five.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 4 (29:52):
The constraints around information sharing is hindering government agencies and
responding to organized crime.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Where have we heard that before?

Speaker 20 (29:58):
Steve Simon is the chair of the ministerially Advisory Group.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
I've been a prosecutor for twenty years and I think
it's been the vane of our existence that entire time.
If anything, I think it's probably got worse as comin
agencies have become more siloed and have become more risk adverseed.
I think it starts with culture most I think your
point of it's been this consistent problem over the years.
What that's driving is this culture of if I don't share,
I won't get in trouble. If I do share, I

(30:22):
might get in trouble. So you can see which option
people are usually choosing.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Back Monday, from six am, the Mic Asking Breakfast with
Bayley's Real Estate News talk.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
ZB Heather, how can Berri stay married to you the
way you treat him? We all wonder this, we all
do wander this. Actually you're not alone. Five away from
five Now listen, I've got an update for you about
the woman in iced attention over in Texas at the minute.
Good news, she and her son are going to be
released before the end of the week. Now it's supposed

(30:53):
to be. She was thinking it would be Friday there time,
so presumably Saturday our time, and she was so confident
she'd already booked flights and so on. So this appears
to be about to happen. Going to take some time
to reacclimatize her son to normal life because they have
been locked up for three weeks. So that's wonderful news. Now,
if you've ever looked at Parliament you thought, geez, that
looks like a bit of me. Can't wait to get

(31:14):
in there. You've got a very very easy way to
get in now. The Opportunities Party has done something very
unusual here. They're looking for a new leader and they've
decided that the best way to scout for a new
leader is to put it up like a job at
on Seek. So they have, they say, feeling like every
day kiwis get a raw deal from politics as usual.
Whether a PhD holder, a builder or a nurse. They're

(31:34):
looking for someone who can quote handle the heat without melting.
The prospective leader will be open minded, considering different opinions
without taking the heat. Personally. They say very clearly, we're
not fussy about your PhD, about your CV, about your CV.
If you've got a PhD in economics, tremendous, self employed builder,
fantastic nurse, magnificent, what matters is your ability to lead

(31:57):
us towards a better future. Live our values, which is fearless, honesty, equitable, opportunity,
ingenuity and results. That medal matter and so on and
so on. It's an interesting idea to do it on
to do it on seek. I don't know what it
says about the soul of the party, do you know
what I mean?

Speaker 14 (32:14):
Like?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
I feel like people who get into for example, the
Labor or the Green Party generally believe the values and
live the values, and you know, get in there and
do the thing. This does feel a little bit like man,
just come on and treat it like any other professional job.
Also interestingly, the campaign manager is Ian Lease Galloway. Remember him?
Oh yeah, last from the past anyway. Previous leaders are

(32:34):
Gareth Morgan, who likes to kill Katz or at least
advocate for that, and Raf Mangi. The highest the Opportunities
Party has ever gotten the polls is two point four percent,
So chances are you can improve quite a lot on that.
I would say Winston Peters is going to be with
us next on the old wasted money on the Fairies
news talks. It'd be.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
As a new person over again.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
Questions, answers, facts, analysis, the drive show you trust for
the full picture. Heather d Person Drive with One New
Zealand Let's get connected news talks.

Speaker 21 (33:21):
At be.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Afternoon. The cost of living crisis appears to continue to
scare kiwi's off. New data shows food prices are up
five percent in the year to July. Net migration for
the month is down eighty percent on last year. We're
getting very close to a new record high of kiwis
leaving the country. Brad Olson is a principal economist at
Informetrics and with us. Now, Hey, Brad, good evening. What's
driving the food price up?

Speaker 19 (33:45):
Well, we're seeing that the same dairy costs that we've
been focused on the last couple of months are still
a key part of that discussion. Now that's a little
bit of an annual comparison thing. Of course, we've talked
a lot about butter in recent times. Interestingly, in July
the price of butter, the cheapest butter that the stats
in Z investigators could find, was broadly the same as

(34:06):
it was last month, so a lot of the big
increases having come through not seeing quite as much further.
But you're seeing other costs likes of milk now that's
up considerably of course as well, but also the likes
of meats. You're looking at steak and mints that are
both seeing higher prices in July, and that's consistent with
what we saw in the grocery supply cost index when

(34:28):
we looked at input costs. Is that those higher meat
prices that we're getting overseas good news for exporterers, of course,
means that some of our domestic prices are heading up
to So you're right now seeing those food price inflation
figures up to five percent. Probably won't change the dial
when it comes to the Reserve Bank meeting next week,
but of course very uncomfortable for households who are having

(34:49):
to pay more for the essentials.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
I mean, common sense would dictate this as part of
the reason why kiwis are leaving, right, I.

Speaker 19 (34:56):
Think that partly, But I think we've also got to
be that some of these increases you're seeing overseas as well,
there's still high prices for a number of products. I mean,
you look at some areas like the UK where their
inflation has started to reaccelerate like ours. So it's part
of the story. I think though. What's interesting looking at
those migration numbers that you've highlighted is that you've still

(35:18):
got this sort of real divide. Yes, there's a very
large number of New Zealanders that are leaving, but there's
also quite a large number of people that have still
come into the country, at least relative to sort of
more normal times before the pandemic. So we do have
I think, you know, it's not a one way door
policy at the moment, Heather, it's very much sort of
two doors, one exit, one enter, but quite a lot

(35:40):
of people going through both.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yeah, Hey, Brad, thank you as always, Brad Olson. Infametric's
principle economist.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Heather Duplicy Allen, we finally learned.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
How much it's cost the country to break the fairy
contract with Hyunde over in South Korea. It's one hundred
and forty four million dollars just in the break feed.
That is on top of the deposit we've already paid.
It's also on top of the cost of starting the
infrastructure building and then winding it down again. Canceled project
in total has cost tax payers six hundred and seventy
one million dollars. Winston Peters is the Minister for Rellum
with us.

Speaker 21 (36:08):
Hey, Winston, well, good morning, on good afternoon or good evening.
Because those facts you just gave substantially incorrect.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Oh well, please correct well, I'm.

Speaker 21 (36:19):
Correcting you, because there's one forty four million. There were
other costs which were already paid. There were costs that
were paid that were to do was associated projects. Many
of those utilities we were able to save, and so
it is massively less than the three hundred million that
are in z reported there I say it or typically so,
and they pace it was going to be one point

(36:41):
one six billion.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
Make sure that we've got the facts here, right, Winston.

Speaker 21 (36:46):
So we've got to get the facts. You I'm thinking
the fact that you was on the ministeret.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Well, you did the facts and then you started to
do the other stuff. So, first of all, one hundred
and forty four.

Speaker 21 (36:54):
Millions to the facts one humor stat of the fact
that I'm greeting you.

Speaker 2 (36:58):
One hundred and forty four million dollars in the break
fee plus the deposit takes the total spin to the
shipyard to two hundred and twenty two million dollars plus.
Then you've got the four hundred and forty nine million
dollars on land side infrastructure, project management and wind down costs. Correct.

Speaker 21 (37:13):
No, not correct, because some of those projects we have saved,
For example, the departure that the building in Marlborough is
going to be saved. We're not going to pull it
down like the project at forecast. So they were going
to build a short term departure lounge and pull it down.
We decided to save it. There are counters other parts
like that which dissect out to be savings not expenditure

(37:36):
in the way that the layer party is so massively mispreder.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
So what is the total then, If it's not six
hundred and seventy one.

Speaker 21 (37:42):
Million, well it's one hundred and forty four million if
you take the seventy eight that's already paid out.

Speaker 7 (37:49):
So it was.

Speaker 21 (37:50):
It was originally provisioned to cost us three hundred million,
and we've come and way, way way shorter than that
and saved a lot of them.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
Old on three billion dollars is what we were going
to spend, and we spend one hundred and forty four
million dollars. But we still spend one hundred and forty
four million dollars in a break few, which gets us nothing.
So we've spent two hundred and twenty two million dollars
with Hyunda, and what have we got for it, Winston?

Speaker 21 (38:12):
What we've got here?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Nothing?

Speaker 21 (38:15):
No, no, no, no, no, I can see why you
guys are in trouble. What we're what they've got from?

Speaker 18 (38:20):
What is this?

Speaker 21 (38:21):
They were told to go out, just go very slowly
with you when I was the minister. They were told
to go and go and buy two fairies for four
hundred and one million dollars. I come back to find
that they've massively blown that out and bought masses. We
all know the sp' got that point you've got. They

(38:41):
don't know the story. They went out and brought two
much bigger fairies, which would require them to change the
whole infrastructure, which was in a blow, as the Treasury said,
the costs out to about four billion dollars, a bit
like what happened in Tasmania right a year right now.
But they've got the fairies and they've got no infrastructure
because they can't fit fit them. So what to do
with the fairies? The same predicament we'd have had, but

(39:02):
only we got there.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
Fer I knew that story that was boring. I already
knew all of that. I just what I'm trying to
point out is that you have spent two hundred because
people canceled it. We spent two hundred and twenty two
million dollars and we ain't got anything anyway.

Speaker 21 (39:15):
You're you should be saying, you should be out there
saying Whinston, Thank heavens, your Scottish nature came through and
you've saved up billions of dollars. And I have and
very surely I'll prove it to you.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Okay, Hey, listen, have you agreed to let you agreed
between yourselves and national that we're going to let the
foreign buyers in and it's going to cabinet in a
matter of weeks.

Speaker 21 (39:36):
No, we haven't changed you. We're not changing our foreign
buyers policy.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Well, well, Nikola Willis has told Bloomberg that in a
matter of weeks you're going to cabinet and you're going
to let the people buy the houses.

Speaker 21 (39:47):
No, she didn't say that whole She was talking about
a new approach to serious foreign investors.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yes, who will be able to buy houses?

Speaker 10 (39:56):
No?

Speaker 21 (39:57):
No, no, See what what Lancel Party campaigned on, you
remem between twenty three they campaign on a policy which
when fiscally costed out by guess who yours truly and
later economists blew out massively and we opposed it. But
we said if you're coming in here to spend billions
and tens and billions of dollars to invest in this
country and you want to buy a house. You're not
a foreign buyer, you're a foreign investor and we've got

(40:18):
to look at you at new with new eyes. But
details of which are coming out shortly.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
Okay, brilliant.

Speaker 21 (40:22):
Thanks, I've had a chance to have spent your listeners
the truth of this matter.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Jeez, Honestly it's tiring. I Winston, thank you, Winston Peters,
Minister of Rail and Leader of New Zealand. First right,
let's deal with Health New Zealand on this food business.

Speaker 21 (40:33):
Next.

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Speaker 1 (41:23):
Heather Dull.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
You can get to some of your texts in just
a MINUTEES eighteen past five, Health New Zealand has decided
to impose new rules on hospital cafeterias. It includes cutting
the fat off the meat, taking the skin off the chicken,
taking the marshmallows out of the hot chocolate, and then
hiding some food from view, like pies that have krusty tops.
Doctor Nick Chamberlain is the National Director of the National

(41:46):
Public Health Service and is with us now, Hey, Nick, Hi, Hi, Heather,
are you proud of these rules?

Speaker 6 (41:52):
Nick?

Speaker 15 (41:54):
Hither the policy is actually more supportive and enabling them.
The previous twenty sixteen and twenty nineteen policies. It gives
a broader range of choices. And you've identified one area
where there's been a change around the hot hot drinks
and some more.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
I was in the hospital a few months ago I
got some warm tons, but now i'm reading your policy,
I'm not allowed the one tons anymore.

Speaker 15 (42:22):
If I'm there, that's correct. One tons are in the
red category. But overall there's significantly more choice and opportunities
and where we're also working really closely with supplies so
that that makes it much easier for them. And I
think if you look at the green and orange areas,

(42:44):
there's really significant options including pies.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
And pies had a potato top and are smaller than
two hundred and ten grams. You realize how ridiculous this
is between adults, say well.

Speaker 15 (42:56):
No, that's a normal sized pie, which is a potato
top pie.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
And they've got them allowed a normal sized pilot. Now
are these people private who run the cafeterias or are
they your hospital? Like does Health New Zealand run the cafeterias?

Speaker 15 (43:10):
It varies, but mainly they are contracted providers.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
So you're telling a private company. Are you telling you
telling a private company that they can put the potato
top pies on display, but they've got to hide the
ones with the krusty tops out the back.

Speaker 15 (43:26):
We're not telling our providers too much. We're actually giving
them the options. And actually the various providers and supplies
have been very involved with But.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I thought only the green food is allowed on display
and everything else has to be hidden from view.

Speaker 15 (43:42):
No, not at all. Some of the orange foods are
definitely there. We can't hide.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Well, we can display some of the orange foods.

Speaker 15 (43:48):
Yep. Yes, and also heither I want to assure you
we're willing to review various aspects of the policy when
we get it wrong. And so the issue around sure,
around the hot drinks is that you know, a hot chocolate,
of course is about three to six teaspoons of sugar,

(44:10):
and so by us then adding further with a marshmallow,
it's about another teaspoon. You know that that was an
attempt to try and just recommend to people that they
stick to healthy.

Speaker 2 (44:24):
It's not recommending that that's actually restricted. Now you tell
me something, Nick, Why do you think as an adult
I can walk down Ponsonby Road by myself a hot
chocolate and my child if I want to and put
marshmallows in. But if I come to your hospital, I'm
not allowed. Why is that okay? Why do you? Why
do you you can do this?

Speaker 15 (44:43):
I guess if you take the converse of that, if
we didn't have some sort of healthy food guidelines within hospitals,
we'd be hugely criticized.

Speaker 21 (44:50):
If we just.

Speaker 15 (44:51):
Allowed everything to be available as it is everywhere else,
then people would think, well, that's actually not sending the
right message. So what we are trying to do is
provide some guidance and still give a huge amount of choice,
and really very significant choice.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
McDonald's in your hospitals.

Speaker 15 (45:10):
I am not sure how many McDonald's there are, but
I think there probably is one or two McDonald's are
still available in most hospitals have have have declined that
And I'm just.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Going to say, Nick, I rest my case. I appreciate
you coming on. This is ridiculous, though, good luck with it.
Doctor mcchamberlain, National Director of the National Public Health Service.
I'd love to know This exercises me probably more than
like I'm really upset about I'm not really upset about it.
I think it's stupid and I think I am spending

(45:45):
too much energy on how stupid this is?

Speaker 22 (45:48):
Is it just me?

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Or are you with me on this? And do I
need to calm down?

Speaker 19 (45:51):
Nine?

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Text number five twenty two.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
Informed inside into today's issues. It's hither duplicy Ellen, drive
with one New Zealand let's get connected news talk sa'd
be five to twenty five.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Listen. We are about fifteen or so hours away now
from the maybe even fourteen hours from the big Trump
Putin meeting in Alaska. And let's be honest, we actually
have despite the bet that I might take again take
with Barrisopa, we have no idea if this is going
to be a bust or not. No one in the
world knows what's going to happen because no one knows
what happens next to the Trump Show. It is possible
that Putin is playing Trump for time here, just like

(46:27):
he strung him along this whole second presidency, pretending that
he's up for ending the war while not really being
up for it at all. What makes that a totally
plausible theory is that last Friday was the sanctions deadline.
Remember Trump said if there was no ceasefire deal by Friday,
Putin would face crippling sanctions. Putin then called the summit,
which meant that the sanctions didn't happen. So theoretically, he

(46:48):
could just be making it look like he's up for
negotiating peace just to keep those sanctions at bay. On
the other hand, it is totally possible that this is
the start of the end, because Putin's people must have
put a credible peace deal and of Trump's people in
order for Trump to bother turning up for a meeting.
And Trump's threat hasn't gone away, it's just been paused.
He's already warned that Putin faces severe consequences if he

(47:09):
refuses to end the war, and he isn't necessarily bluffing
because no one took his threats against Iran seriously until
he bombed the crap out of their nuclear sites. So
it is entirely possible that this is in fact the
first meeting in a series of meetings that eventually ends
with peace struck in Ukraine. What is obvious, though, is
if that's the way that it goes, Zelenski is going
to have to give up land, because that is clearly

(47:30):
going to be part of a peace deal. If there
is a peace deal. The fact that Zelenski isn't at
this meeting tells you already that these two Trump and
Putin know that whatever they agree to, Zelensky isn't like
it or gonna like it all. So if I was Zelenski,
I would start preparing myself for the very real possibility
that Land is going to go to Putin. Ever do
for Cee, Ellen, if you're not overreacting to this hospital

(47:51):
food I laughed the whole time during that interview. It's
just ridiculous. Hither, You're right, it's a total croc omg.
Here the hospital restrictions on food displayed. What is this
world coming to you? Hear me screaming in my kitchen, Heather, Heather,
no one is with you on this. The hospitals are
taking responsibility setting a dietary standard in Canada at restaurant,
all items accompanied by their calories. Lord, I'd had to
live in Canada, Heather, You need to calm down. Do

(48:16):
you want them selling American style fast food with super
sized one liter fantas? No, Heither, this is the first
time I disagree with you. We need to give a
message to the people about healthy and unhealthy foods. Listen, listen,
listen here, Okay, there are two ways that you can
raise a child at the moment right. You can either
raise the child teach them things that they need to know,
like teach them this is healthy, this is not this

(48:37):
is your food that you eat every day, this is
a treat, and then send them off into the world
and let them let them make those choices as an adult.
Or you can basically molly coddle your child. What's going
on is health New Zealand thinks we all need to
be molly coddled when we're still adults. I would like
to be able to make my own decisions, wouldn't you. Anyway, Listen,
I'm getting a lot of texts on the Winston thing.
Let's talk about the Winston thing next headlines and then

(49:00):
we're going to go to the sports title news talks
at b.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
On the iHeart app and in your car on your
drive home, it's hither duplicy Ellen drive with one New
Zealand let's get connected newstalgs'd be.

Speaker 15 (49:16):
Driving in your car.

Speaker 7 (49:17):
Speed's the fast?

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Fellow dun.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
Hey, by the way, I should have said, we're gonna
have a chat to Matt Terrell, who's the former chief
of staff to Marco Rubio in his one of his campaigns,
He's going to be us after six o'clock. I have
terrible news for Nick from Health New Zealand. The Minister
of Health has sent through a statement Simeon Brown quote.
I've asked Health New Zealand to review their policies on

(49:43):
food available for purchase and hospitals. Healthy nutritious food is important,
but so is common sense and banning marshmallows with a
hot chocolate makes no sense at all. Oh, thank god,
thank god. I mean, if there's one like I look,
if you're still sitting there going I don't know if
I like label or national dun You know that, but
you know that the Red team would have let this
one through and the Blue team is stopping it. So

(50:03):
for that reason alone, we should be incredibly grateful. Now,
on Winston, I'm getting a lot of text from people
saying things like this, Heather, I feel quite disrespectful when
you're talking to Winston. Heather, don't be so rude. You
need to apologize to Winston. What you need to understand
is Winston and I love each other, and so he's
ready for that and I'm ready for that, and neither
of us didn't. We both enjoyed that very much, so

(50:24):
don't worry. He's not offended in the slightest. Also, after
he got off the phone from me, he kept on
telling off the German for the facts. And she said
to him, but what facts did we get wrong? And
he was we got no facts wrong. This is just
a Winston performance. So anyway, and I say that with
a huge amount of love. Twenty three away from sex. Now,
despite the opposition, Auckland Council is pressing ahead with its

(50:46):
plans to chop Takapoona golf course in half. They're going
to keep nine holes and turn the rest into a
wetland to prevent future flooding. Phil Jagged from Takapuna Golf
Club met with council earlier and is with us now,
how Phil, Hi, Heather, how's it going. I'm well, thank you.
Are you going to accept this or are you going
to fight this?

Speaker 22 (51:02):
We're going to take a step back and take a
moment to digest this information. A council has stated that
they will be proceeding with the wetland and right attention
area and that no further alternatives are being considered.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
What does the local community think so.

Speaker 22 (51:21):
The local community is obviously there's been some opposition to
the removal of the golf course. But this is what
we've been trying to do is create a creative solution
to the climate challenge, resolve the flooding issues, protect houses
and so forth, but also protect the trees and natural
environment and obviously protect our community assets. So that's what

(51:43):
we put together with a proposal. Now Council has advised
us that the local Board in October and November this
year they will be going out for consultation on the
recreational use for a of Thomas Park and that's where
we'll have an opportunity to put forward our golf proposal.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Now your proposal, this is the one that in which
you plan to drain the floodwater into Shoal Bay.

Speaker 9 (52:04):
Is that right?

Speaker 22 (52:06):
Yeah, so that one has been rejected by Council. But
the original proposal that we put on the table was
working with the council landform to create to maintain aiding
holes while you still have the wetland and the engine area,
So that was still on the table. What we will
do now is we've got some further information from Council
in terms of their design from that from their feasibility report,

(52:28):
so we can have a look in greater detail at
that and obviously when this consultation process goes through the
local board after the elections, will go and be part
of that process.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Phil, Is it true that the reason that they rejected
the Shoal Bay plan was because they planned to save
Shoal Bay for a possible third harbor crossing for Auckland.

Speaker 22 (52:48):
We understand that is possibly one of the reasons why,
So there is they say that to you, So there
is a second harbor crossing in terms of tunnel alignments
in the vicinity, So that is an area that's you know,
you do not want stormwater pipes clashing with the tunnel
for the Luber crossing and we understand that.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Okay, Phil listen, thanks very much, the best of luck
with everything that's Phil jagged take a pun A Golf
Club spokesperson Heather Golden Balls saves the day bang on
twenty away from.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
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Speaker 23 (53:22):
Uniquely for you, the ADS Premiership competition is still going
to have saw ferns in it, and they're still going
to have the up and coming sort affirms and the
future sorver firms in there. So it's still going to
be a really exciting competition.

Speaker 24 (53:38):
Obviously, we use the three Test against the French to
play a whole squad and now we're focusing on of
each a very very good Argent ten and team. They
put a strong squad, a lot of experience in the
Team two.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
This will be judged in twenty years. This is not
something that's just going to be here today. Ain't going
to marrow.

Speaker 4 (53:53):
This is a change and the ultimate test will be
what does the America's Cup look like in twenty years time.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Right with me on the sportshuddle, we have Darcy water
Grave and we have Andrew Gordy.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Hello, Elo, thank you and get a gordell a you bro,
not dad mate?

Speaker 9 (54:09):
How are you?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
It's tall and handsome.

Speaker 2 (54:11):
No change here now, I know Darcy. You don't play
the golf with the takapuna, do you.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
No.

Speaker 25 (54:16):
I haven't played golf since my knee fell apart, but
I'm looking to get a new knee next time I'll
be back. I used to play at Chamberlain out Titangi
and way out West and some of the mad bushes
out there, never Strode Tucker, Puna Unford.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
What about you, Gordy, do you strike me as a
as a north shore boy who might play that.

Speaker 20 (54:33):
I am anything but a north Shaw blow. I'm a
I'm a christ Church born and bred lad and you know,
transferred up here and never been a shore boy. You know,
I broke my back, but I didn't play. I didn't
play golf.

Speaker 12 (54:44):
What school did you go to?

Speaker 20 (54:47):
Don't don't start, But now we're interested.

Speaker 25 (54:50):
But I can because I'm part of the christ Church
mafia as well, all of us up here from today
christ I went to Martihoe High School, which is very unfast,
and then I ran to Burnside for a couple of years.
Then I scaped into TV.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
Oh okay, and what about you, Gordy, I'm.

Speaker 20 (55:06):
A beating ranger.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
All about this. I get on with Elliott Smith.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Guy.

Speaker 25 (55:14):
I have veiled in the light because I'll tell you
what sad and I am. We went to the scummy
schools in Christchurch, all right?

Speaker 20 (55:20):
So yeah, no have Elton, Elliott and even Olie Ritchie.
They all went to the wrong one. They went to
the wrong one, and that admit as much. I'm sure
if they were on here. But anyway, that an't the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
This is not sport. Okay, Gordy, what do you make
of the netballers all leaving. We've got a list of
I think it's eight who are who are probably probably
very close to either already having confirmed or confirming soon.

Speaker 20 (55:42):
I sensed there's some panic out there. I'm not that panic.
I think this is just a reality of modern sport
and the best players will play in the best competition
and unfortunately at the moment that's that's not the competition
here in New Zealand. The best players want to go
over and play on Australia and I totally understand that.
And you know, I think everyone can look at this
with derm and gloom, but I look at it and go, well,

(56:04):
if our best players are going to be playing week
in week out in the best competition, that means that
I think they should be allowed to continue playing for
the Silver Ferns and that will be a benefit to
the Silver fans when it comes to the international States.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
What's more important for you?

Speaker 25 (56:17):
Do you think Andrew having accessible Silver Ferns there for
people to see on court, like the younger ones coming
through or having success and internationally, will I regularly beating
the Australians they want to straddle both?

Speaker 3 (56:31):
Is that possible?

Speaker 20 (56:33):
I see, I don't think in this in this day
and age, Dart, I think that's kind of what we're
talking about here is the reality is that that's not possible.
And I think if you asked most most netball fans,
their priority would be the silver ferns. And I think
that what we're seeing play out here will achieve that.

Speaker 25 (56:48):
And there's always room for the sheets coming through when
the more mature players up and disappear. And look, NetWorld
New Zealand haven't said no yet. I'm just waiting for
the time when they go.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I'll have to say no.

Speaker 25 (56:59):
Somebody will eventually. But all the yeses have gone through
and it's been there. Well, it's like an ice Berg's forum,
and that the wave has been enormous, it really has.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Listen, are we gonna win against the Dragons tonight?

Speaker 3 (57:12):
Don't say we, You've got nothing to do with the.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
I am, it's we. Before the game.

Speaker 19 (57:20):
If they lose them, just.

Speaker 26 (57:24):
Remember that, Okay, by round fifteen, last last by when
when last last lot they they messed this one up.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
That'll be I think their fifth lost and six home games.

Speaker 18 (57:38):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Nobody knows because.

Speaker 25 (57:40):
This team promised so much and then injury beat them
up and also they let some games just go straight through.
I think that Gordy, the embarrassment around what happened last
week against the Dogs is going to be enough to
light a fire underneath them.

Speaker 9 (57:55):
If if Angel Webster isn't a really.

Speaker 20 (57:56):
Right, well, I certainly hope so. And to be honest,
my heart is still broken from that loss to the Dolphins.
That was that was tough to watch, tough to take.
I think most Warriors fans are probably still even recovering
from that. So I hate using the term must win,
but I'm a huge believer in that momentum, positive or

(58:17):
negative is everything in sport, and one more defeat feels
like we might be on a slot pree slope that
might be hard hard to get any sort of traction from.
So it does feel like a really, really important game
for the Warriors. I'm thrilled that Tan of boys back,
to be honest, and thrilled that Weighed Egan is back.
I'm feeling I won't say I'm overly confident, but if

(58:41):
I was a betting man, and some people might say,
I am I'm going to be with the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Do you know there's still a mathematical chance that they
won't hit the eight?

Speaker 15 (58:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 20 (58:53):
Not a mathematician. All right, not go there.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
All right, let's take a break. We'll come back and
just geez, that was a cackle, wasn't it. Gold take
a break, come back with the sports uddle shortly Cauughter too.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
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team the ones for unmasked results.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Back with the sports titdle Darcy Waldgrave and Andrew Gordy. Gordy,
what do you make of the token woman on the boats?

Speaker 13 (59:18):
Uh?

Speaker 20 (59:20):
Yeah, great question, to be honest, I kind of I
get it, and I think this is probably a smart
move from in terms of optics and in terms of
marketing the America's Cup and making sure you're appealing to
you know, as wide a possible audience as possible. But
it feels like a bit of a copy of sale GP,

(59:40):
doesn't it. But I'm actually more interested in the influencer rule,
and I can't help but wonder guys like who are
going to be the influencers that fill the boat for
the Emirates New Zealand. It feels like this may as
will be called the Mike Hostking rule. Like surely Hoskers,
it's got this lined up.

Speaker 25 (59:57):
It's what they need to mister Beast who's got half
a billion fans on YouTube and he's just launched a
burger bar over here.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Get Beast on the boat, mate.

Speaker 9 (01:00:07):
You've got so.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Many people straight away they all right, you need to
hit high. You want to go glow. You want to
go to the superstar. You get right up there and
go that way. Not not this this New Zealanders because
I'll just be jealous of Hill. It might go on
because I want.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
This is a good point that he makes, though, Gordio,
I mean you want to go, you want You don't
want to be tapping an audience that is already tapped, right,
and Hoskins audience is already into the boats you want
to go to, like for example, the Kardashians where they
go diamonds bling makeup boats.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
You want to go to what at tracks?

Speaker 25 (01:00:37):
The youth, the generation this generation coming through, don't go
I peeled up taking in thieves like me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
You don't want to do that.

Speaker 25 (01:00:43):
You want something and that drags the young eyes in
and on the women side of things, it's about time
they woke up to this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
A bit late to the party, but that's all right.
They got there. Sale GP did him a favor.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Right, Okay, Now do we Darcy, do we take out
the games against Argentina? Because remember arg and he have
beatenim just recently. The British and Irish lines, so they're
not rubbish.

Speaker 25 (01:01:04):
That was the start of the British Irish lines to it,
and that was a bit sloppy from them. I don't
think they've been particularly good up after that. I would
be stunned if we were to be rolled. I remember
back in the day you'll two Andrew Gordy as well
when you go. Porter nearly kicked us to death in
the game and it ended up with drawing. Ben Blair
was talking last night, Ben Blair out of Canterbury. Remember

(01:01:24):
that he pulled off the train?

Speaker 9 (01:01:26):
Well hold on?

Speaker 25 (01:01:27):
Did he was?

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
It was it Robertson who passed to him to score
all the other way round to.

Speaker 15 (01:01:33):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
No, wouldn't he?

Speaker 20 (01:01:37):
This is really on Instagram a couple of days.

Speaker 3 (01:01:42):
You see social media.

Speaker 25 (01:01:43):
It's absolutely huge. What I like about this angel? I
talk about this later on today. Filly Christy's going to
join us on the show in sports talking. Is this
we finally seen racist fingerprints on the side, because last
year there were no fingerprints at all.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
It was Foster's team and he tweaked it away bit
when I don't know, now, this is his team.

Speaker 25 (01:02:02):
This is what's going to the world. Company goes right,
you're a winger. I'm going to put you and it's center.
This is what my loose Ford trio looks like.

Speaker 19 (01:02:10):
Deal with it.

Speaker 9 (01:02:10):
You're the men.

Speaker 25 (01:02:11):
And I think that confidence given to these guys to
actually go out there and it horrible to express them.
I think that's really really important.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
Andrew, So what do you think, Goodie.

Speaker 20 (01:02:22):
I think we will be Argentina. I'm a little uncomfortable
about it, though I don't expect. I expected the All
Blacks to beat France in the home series, and I
know we got it, got a little bit close there,
but I expected this week we got there. I'm less
confident about Argentina. I think they might be a little
better than you know, perhaps some people might be giving

(01:02:43):
them credit for. But look, I like the team that
the selectors have named. Apart from and I know that
this has partially been forced upon them, but if Ardie
Savier is going to be wearing the number seven jersey
going forward, I want to see him wearing that jersey
as much as possible. Firm believe and that you should
build your team around your best players. And if number

(01:03:04):
eight is not where Artie is going to be playing,
and this is not a splant at all on d
seek Refie outstanding player. I'm sure he'll do the jersey
justice over there this weekend. But I want the team
build around the best players and they should be in
their best positions. That's where Artie should be.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Hey, guys, thank you so much. Appreciate it and enjoy
your glass of pino noir with the Warriors this evening,
both of you. That's Darcy Watergrave Andrew Gordi. Our sports
title this evening, eight away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
It's the Heather duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast
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Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Be Heather, please get the sports title to talk about
the massive World Darts event that's happening at Spark Arena tonight.
It's a sellout. It's going to be so good. My
son has just left to go with his mates, and
they're all dressed up in their costumes. These guys have
dressed as monks with a priest, and the gear looks
so authentic. I'm sorry we didn't get a chance to
talk about that, but that actually does sound like an
awesome event on this evening. An unexpectedly nice gesture from

(01:04:02):
the Taliban. Not a sentence I will probably ever have
to say again in my life. But they are planning
to fly. They've got the fourth anniversary of their return
to power in Afghanistan happening today, like as in their time, today,
they are going to fly helicopters over the top of
Carbule and drop flowers. I know when I said drop
you were like, what, no flowers. They're going to drop flowers.

(01:04:24):
They're going to perform beautiful aerial displays, shower the city
with colorful flowers. The athletes are going to be doing
sports performances from the afternoon until the early evening. And yeah,
it's not at all, not at all the kinds of
thing that I expected they would be doing, but there
you go. You can always be surprised far away from sex.

Speaker 21 (01:04:40):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I don't know how I missed this this week, but
earlier This week, Audrey Young spoke to Mark Mitchell for
The Herald and talk to him about the various health challenges.
Challenges he's had from some past injuries is quite remarkable.
What he's had to go through as a body. So
he had in the nineteen nineties work a sleeping mother
and a son to get them out of the house

(01:05:03):
an arsonist had set fire to the house. He's got
ongoing lung damage from that. He took a hammering to
his face from four mongrel mob members that he was
following in relation to a gang rape. He had some
surgery to rebuild the eye socket and release a nerve
that had been trapped by a broken bone. Then he
was stabbed by a young man with a samurai sword
which slices through his elbow. He has never had a

(01:05:24):
pain free day since because it's done damage to all
of his nerves there. It's had multiple operations to try
to relieve the chronic pain. He also survived three explosions
in vehicles. The explosions were caused by IED's In one,
he got a whole lot of shrapnel up into his
lower back and his bum, which has caused nerve damage
in his right leg. Isn't that incredible? So when I

(01:05:46):
mean when the police minister gives the shoutouts that he
always does, doesn't he like there's not an interview that
goes past with Mark Mitchell, he doesn't have take the
opportunity to shout out to the police officers, the good
guys and girls on the front line. He's actually lived
what they are going through. He's had slices in his
arms and stuff in his butt. It's quite incredible. Well

(01:06:07):
done him for being able for being the guy who's
actually gone through that, and then he's actually taken the
job that he's in at the moment. Anyway, As I said,
Matt Terrell, former chief of staff to Marco Rubio, with
us straight after six o'clock, we'll talk through the summit
about to happen in Alaska, newstalks EDB.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
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will it affect the economy? The big business questions on
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Speaker 19 (01:06:47):
EDB Evening coming up in the next hour.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Peter Lewis is going to talk us through the complications
of Nvidia agreeing to pay Trump for permission to sell
their stuff to China. Barrysopaul rap the political week that
was and Grays with us out of the UK. It's
eight past six now. US and Russian officials are on
their way to Alaska right now ahead of tomorrow's summit.
Donald Trump's going to meet with Ladd at seven thirty
our time tomorrow morning to broke a re ceasefire in

(01:07:11):
the Ukraine War. It's the first time the two have
met in six years. Donald Trump rates his chance of
success at about seventy five percent now. Matt Terrell is
US Secretary of State, Marco Rubio's former chief of staff,
and currently managing partner at Firehouse Strategies. I'm Matt, hey,
great to be with you. Okay, So tell me what
you think success looks like. Is it just positive noises

(01:07:32):
from Persian or is it an actual deal?

Speaker 18 (01:07:35):
Well, look, first and foremost, I think it's a big
step tomorrow having President Putin and President Trump sit down.
So this is a major step for it's hopefully having
peace here. But look, I think the outcome ultimate needs
to be getting to a ceasefire here, then from there
get into a place where you're talking about security guarantees
for Ukraine. Then ultimately, of course time on land. Those

(01:07:57):
are the next components of this. So I think tomorrow,
I think President Trump's done a good job of manage
expectations about what tomorrow could be optimistic. I think that
that progress will be made. But in the end, ultimate,
the way he houses said, this is listening session tomorrow,
gad did from President Poon gets the negotiaing table and
this war. Maybe you have something like a ceasefire coming

(01:08:18):
out of this. I don't think that that's going to happen.
It could, but I think ultimately President Trump recognizes that
look of President Poon wants to come to the table
here and I think wants to make a deal. I
think President Trump has been clear he feels as though
President Pun wants to make a deal. I believe that
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Okay, what are the chances that Posen is just playing him,
stalling for time so he can keep fighting.

Speaker 18 (01:08:39):
Well, Look, I think the question is what has gotten
President Pun to this point to meet with President Trump tomorrow?
What has changed? And I think what's changed is that
President Pun's been watching what President Trump has been doing.
He saw what President Trump did in terms of launching
those attacks in Iran when Iran missed its deadline to
come to the negost chain table. He saw what President

(01:08:59):
Trump did when it came to supplying Ukraine with the
necessary military capabilities to defend itself. And President Pun just
saw what President Trump did in terms of putting terroriffts
on India, a major trading partner India is with Russia
and putting those terrorists on India because India has been
consuming Russian oil. So I think right now President Putin

(01:09:19):
recognizes that President Trump is notting around here. He's been watching.
They're President Puns ready to negotiate. I think he recognizes
that President Trump is serious here. And President Trump, I
think if he does not get the recognition tomorrow that
President pun is serious about next steps here in terms
of end of this war, I think he's going to
go and crush Russia's economy.

Speaker 7 (01:09:41):
You know.

Speaker 18 (01:09:41):
The recognition right now, I think among the White House
is that this is the for President pun to show
up and to be serious about getting this war to
come to an end. If he's not, then I think
President Trump will move forward with terroriffts and sanctions that
will crush Russia's economy. President pun doesn't want that. I
think President Putin and President Trump will find a way
to get to a deal here. The only person can

(01:10:01):
end this war is Trump any more. Leader. I think
tomorrow is a major step forward here and I'm optimistic
about what will come next.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Okay, do you think zelene Ski needs to get real
and accept the fact that he is going to have
to give up some land here?

Speaker 18 (01:10:18):
Absolutely. Look the recognition here, I think among everyone who's
at the table here is that you are at a
situation here where the only way to get this war
to come to an end is at the table. I
do not believe that this war will come to an end.
Have to have both sides, you know, give things up here.
And people can argue that that's not right or not there,
but you can be either idealistic about this really and

(01:10:41):
the realities are what they are on the ground. And
to your question, I think you're gonna have to see
both sides give things up here. You're gonna have to
talk of course about you know, security guarantees for Ukraine.
That's important. You may very well get to a point
where you get to the discussions of talking about swapping
of land, but you're gonna have to see. I think
both sides give up things here that they don't want
to give up. But what's going to be needed in

(01:11:02):
terms of getting this scene to come to an AD.
You can't keep going down to the scene path have
been going on. I've continued to war. I think you've
got to get this scene to come to an AD.
That needs to happen the negotiating table and that's going
to mean a concessions on both sides here. We'll see
where that all goes. But there is next steps.

Speaker 21 (01:11:16):
The first.

Speaker 18 (01:11:18):
He's giving that ceaseflare, having that ceaseflare hold and then
get into discussions around on those other variables.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Matt, thanks very much, appreciate it. Matt Terrell, Marco Rubio's
former chief of staff, managing director, a managing partner currently
of Firehouse Strategies and apologies for the quality of the line.
Twelve past six, Heather duples the l Congratulations to James Cameron.
He managed to get him. He's finally got himself his
Kiwi citizenship. Went to a little ceremony at to Papa
and Wellington on Wednesday night. Got it. Happy days for him. Now,

(01:11:46):
what do you think about this because yesterday this time
we were talking to the Mayor of Allsadhana about how awesome,
you know, people around the council table are and how
they you know, they're just trying to do the right
thing by us and they don't need, they don't need
the government telling them how to do their business and stuff.
Tell me what you think about this again. At the
Carpety Coast, the chief executive of the Council went to

(01:12:08):
Harvard Business School for six days. It cost the council
and when I say the council, what I mean is
the rate payers. It cost the rate payers forty three
thousand dollars to send him there. He went between June
the eighth and June the thirteenth, approved by the Council's
Chief Executive, Performance and Employment Committee, which is made up
of the Mayor, the Deputy Mayor, and couple of councilors.

(01:12:29):
Flew out to Boston on June the sixth paid a
total of twelve thousand dollars for return flights that will
be business class, eleven hundred dollars for two nights accommodation
before the course started, four hundred dollars for five uber
trips that is a lot for five uber trips a
four hundred dollars. That's like an eighty dollar Uber trip

(01:12:51):
each of them. When was the last time you took
an eighty dollar Uber trip? Every single one of my
uber trips lately? Nine dollars seventy two, nine dollars seventy two,
nine dollars six two, nine dollars seventy two. Where you
get an eighty dollar Uber trip, where are you going, mate,
one hundred and forty two dollars or two dinners and
then thirty thousand dollars for the tuition? Do you think
that is good council spending? Because I'm gonna make the

(01:13:14):
argument that it isn't on account of the fact that
here's the no disrespect to Darren, but Darren is the
chief executive of one of many, many, many tiny little
councils around It's not a big deal. That's just a council.

Speaker 7 (01:13:27):
We have.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
How many of these councils? We have about seventy of
these different local authorities around the country, right, So he's
the he's the chief executive of one of seventy of
these things. To be one of the smaller ones, I
would have thought Carpety and they flew. What do they
need to fly him out to Harvard for to be
the chief executive of one of these tiny little things.
I don't know that the carpety ratepayers are getting value

(01:13:49):
for money. What do you think the sense to it? Like,
especially when we've got the rates going up at the
rate that they are. I feel like that's an expense
it could have been cut. Fifteen past six.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
It's the head duper. See Alan Drive Full show podcast
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Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Right now it's seventeen pass six. Now let's wrap the
political week that was with Barry Sopaer, Senior political correspondent.
Welcome back, Barry, Hello again hear that. Do you think
the four Labor MP's former ministers have made the right decision?

Speaker 9 (01:14:19):
No, I don't. I think the public has a right
to hear from them. They were day after day fronting
the pulpit of truth.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
They called it that.

Speaker 9 (01:14:31):
They said, anything you heard outside of the beehive Theaterrett
was not to be listened to.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
No truth.

Speaker 9 (01:14:37):
That's right. We've got the opportunity now to hear from
the very people that were making decisions for a lot
of people that were the wrong decision, and this nefarious
figure of Jasinda Dern saving ten thousand lives or twenty thousand.
Oh terribly sorry. I thought it was a twenty well ten, it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Is twenty, she says.

Speaker 9 (01:14:58):
That's what she says, And he's ever proven that figure,
and you can never prove it anyway. She's used it
time and time again. I think the public has a
right to know, they have a right to see them
being questioned, and for them not to front up, I
think is nothing short of disgraceful. The worst aspect of it, though,
is that two of these people, one is a senior

(01:15:21):
front bencher in the Labor Party Aisheverral, and the other
is the man who hopes to be Prime Minister next year,
Chris Hipkins. Now Hipkins was the COVID Response Minister, so he,
like Dern, was equally culpable of exactly what went on
during that time. For them not to front up and

(01:15:43):
answer questions publicly, it's just unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
When I asked you that question, have they made the
right decision? I was actually meaning for themselves right, and
particularly for Jacinda and for Grant, for their ongoing reputations,
but for Chippy and for aisha for their ability to
actually become the next government. And I would say in
all cases no.

Speaker 9 (01:16:03):
Right, Well, the thing is they have to have the
courage of their convictions. They have told us time and
time again the decisions that they made during the COVID
response was right and there's never a question about that. Well,
let's hear the question in public, and it's it's a
different environment now, people have had time to reflect and

(01:16:24):
I think people have a right to hear from them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
I think it hurts Chippy's chances of becoming Prime minister, whatever,
however small those chances were, because if he'd fronted up
and said, look, yep, we did this right and we
made mistakes here, I think people would have more respect
for that than for this guy who's going to trust
him to be prime minister again?

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
If you know that he's going to that is absolutely
the right.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
The unaccountable for this decision.

Speaker 9 (01:16:46):
Of course he should be fronting up and if he
does want to become prime minister, he's got to be
accountable and he's got to have the courage of his
convictions when it comes to this dec issue.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Yeah, totally. Now what about Chloe, She's been absolutely smacked
around by Audrey.

Speaker 9 (01:17:00):
My Audry is. But the thing is that her speech
in the house, if you listened to it as I did,
was actually a very good speech coming from her perspective
of course, that is, and nobody in that house would
argue that the people of Gaza have been treated appallingly,
and nobody like Chris Hapkin said, as Chris Luxon said

(01:17:24):
this week, netnya who has lost the plot, and clearly
had lost the plot some time ago. So certainly she
made a very strong speech but ended it in the
wrong way by saying that they should have the spine
to cross the house and vote for her sanctions bill.

(01:17:44):
That's good that it wasn't a major offense. She could
say that when the Speaker said to her, withdraw and
apologize for that remark, she should simply have understood that
she had said what she wanted to say and withdraw
an apology she wanted the attentions, wrote herself right into
the center of an issue that she was trying to promote.

(01:18:07):
But she became the issue then, which is really defeating
the whole purpose of what a good speech she had
made in the house.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Yeah, hey, I almost forgot my favorite story of the week,
which was willow Jen Prime.

Speaker 9 (01:18:18):
Oh goodness gracious.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
I mean, if Chippy thinks he's got problems with him,
and iha, he's also got problems with her, isn't he.

Speaker 9 (01:18:23):
Well, I know you betrayed my confidences when it came
to willow Jen Prime.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
What I said, and you tell me if this is wrong.
What I said is that every time you watch the
news and you see her, you go, oh, Jay's that
woman's dumb. But you do believe that, don't you.

Speaker 9 (01:18:38):
Well, you know, I wouldn't say it in that way,
of course, much diplomatic.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
Say that on the radio's.

Speaker 9 (01:18:46):
Publicly. And for her to say that she wanted consultation
with the government, which is an extraordinary change in the
education in this country. The NCAA she was offered at
time and time again by the government and she turned

(01:19:08):
it down. And of course then Chris Hopkins became involved
and he knew that she had been turning it down
as well.

Speaker 18 (01:19:15):
Well.

Speaker 9 (01:19:15):
Again, the credibility of labor, you'd have to say, and
I don't like criticizing labor anymore than I like criticizing anybody,
but on these issues, labor has fallen really short.

Speaker 2 (01:19:27):
This week Barry. Thanks very much, Barry Soaper, our senior
political correspondent for US wrapping the political week that was hither,
I can't let you let the nation think that our
police Minister Mark Mitchell has nerd nerve damage and has
bumped from an IUD. As you just said on air,
it was from an ied improvised explosive device. Love your show.

Speaker 3 (01:19:45):
Sorry about that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
It wasn't a contraceptive device that's caused the nerve damage.
It's cause other people nerve damage, but not it was
a bomb. Six twenty three, Everything from SMEs to the
big corporates.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
The Business Hour with the Heather of duplessy Ellen and
MAS for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions.

Speaker 2 (01:20:04):
Some news talks that'd be haha, Heather, Is that why
Mike Mitchell is such a hard ass? Maybe? So, Hey, listen,
somebody's just been arrested at the border for failing to
pay their student loan. You are going to want to
hear this because this is a very interesting case, and
you know, I'm loving the crackdown on this stuff. So
I'll get your take on it shortly. Six twenty six, in.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Some shit Heather duplessy Ellen, some show biz.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
News out to Sex in the City the final but
it's all over. It's all come to an end. Now
over one hundred episodes across two shows, two average quality
movies as well. I think we can agree on that.
The spinoff series And Just Like That has aired season
three finale. The show was recently canceled, meaning it's not

(01:20:48):
going to come back for a fourth season, but quote unquote,
fans of the show are not disappointed by that the
nightmare is officially over.

Speaker 17 (01:20:56):
This is literally what happens when you replace a beloved
leading man, a handsome, conservative, successful man with the cringe
non binary, overweight comedian. Turns out people aren't gonna love
your show at that point.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Hmmm, that's Shade Shay Diaz that he's talking about, who
is officially one of the worst characters in all of history,
to the point that they may have in fact ruined
the show. Anyhow, you can watch all three seasons of
And Just Like That with Neon, which I highly recommend
because I'm a Sky shareholder, and if you if you
take out a Neon subscription, kitching, kitching, That's what I want. People.

(01:21:33):
You can find the movies on Prime video or in
a video store. Bag and bin somewhere around the world. Anyway, Listen,
we're going to talk to Peter Lewis shortly, and I
got to tell you the story about the woman who's
just got arrested at the border. You make up your
mind about it. News is next.

Speaker 1 (01:21:50):
If it's to do with money, it matters to you.
The Business Hour with Heather Duper, c Ellen and Mez
for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions.

Speaker 5 (01:21:59):
To be.

Speaker 13 (01:22:03):
Well hither.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
It's a great story that id rather have cracked down
on this lady. I can't believe she's not too ashamed
to talk about it publicly. I'm going to talk about that.
I'll rang through the full detail in just a minute.
And Gavin Grays with us out of the UK. It's
twenty five away from seven and with us right now
we have Peter Lewis Asia Business correspondent Halopiza. Hello, head,
what do you make of the fact that Trump has
extended the deadline with China again?

Speaker 12 (01:22:28):
I think it's kicking the can down the road. I
don't think they're making that much progress. Other than what
this kicking of the can does is it reduces the
impact of what it would have been exceedingly high tariffs
because there would have been one hundred and forty five
tarots on China, and China would have had one hundred

(01:22:48):
and twenty five percent twists back on the US, So
that would have effectively ended all trade between both countries.
It would have been a trade in bargo. But what
are they going to do in this three months? They've
been talking for a long time now, and I think
the problem is the differences between the two sides are
really just too intractable. From the Chinese side, they are

(01:23:13):
ramping up production in all these industries, causing massive overcapacity
and driving prices down, which is affecting companies and industries
around the world, basically putting them either close to extinction
or sending that particular sector into deflation. And then from
the US side, they have this belief that when you

(01:23:35):
have trade between two countries there are winners and losers.
It's not a benefit for both sides. If I win,
then you lose. And as long as you have that attitude,
it's very hard to come up with any sort of
trade deal which is mutually beneficial because as soon you
see benefits from one side, you want to take them away.

(01:23:56):
So with that sort of mindset and China's mindset really
this command and controlled economy where they dictate which sectors,
which companies get investments and do well. And also plus
the US concerns over national security that it's high tech
semiconductor's chip making equipments is getting into the hands of

(01:24:16):
the military. I see it very hard to see how
they're going to make much progress over the next three months,
and we're just going to be in the same position
again come November.

Speaker 2 (01:24:26):
I feel uncomfortable. I mean, I feel like this is
the kind of idea that we had ditched, but it
seems to have come back. I feel very uncomfortable about it.
In video having to pay the government in the US
a share of its sales in order to be able
to make those sales to China.

Speaker 12 (01:24:39):
Do you absolutely? I mean, this is unprecedented. You don't
charge companies for getting export licenses, in particular when that
export license gives the company a huge advantage because you
can sell products into the world's largest consumer market, China

(01:25:00):
that other companies without those export licenses don't have. So
it's almost like a bribe. It's saying I will give
you these export licenses, but in return, you have to
pay me fifteen percent of your revenues. It's sort of
like the mafia. It's mats of extortion. Plus there is

(01:25:21):
an issue which I don't think has been resolved, is
under the US constitution, export taxes are illegal. So this
is in effect an export tax. And if these products
that the video is selling to China, or even the
cut down versions, are supposed to be a national security
threat because there's a risk that they will get into

(01:25:41):
the wrong hands and do enormous damage to the US.
Paying fifteen percent of your revenues doesn't get.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Around that fast.

Speaker 12 (01:25:48):
They are still national security threats.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
Yeah, totally Listen. Do you think that there's anything that
India can do to repair its relationship with the US.

Speaker 12 (01:25:58):
I don't think it's trying hard at the moment. I
think one it's doing now is it sees a lot
of ground to be made in terms of developing relationships
with other emerging market countries, particularly the bricks. So it's
speaking with Brazil about ways in which they can work
together to avoid the impact of the US tarots. It

(01:26:19):
is driving China and India closer together the Endramodi is
going to visit China at the end of this month
for Security Conference. That will be his first visit to
China in eight years this week. Next week, China is
sending one e their foreign minister to India. They're going
to discuss their border disputes. They're going to try and

(01:26:42):
restart cross border trade in the Himalayan regions, and the
Ramodi has also invited Vadamir Putin to Delhi, which is accepted.
So at the moment he is focusing really on developing
these relationships with these bricks countries. So I think he
feels really badly let down by the way in which

(01:27:04):
India has been bullied and been treated by the US,
considering they are supposed to be strategic allies in the region.
And I think it could take quite a long time
to repair that damage because I don't believe India is
going to forgive and forget very quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:27:21):
No, No, I wouldn't think. So, Hey, thank you as always, Peter,
will chat you again next week. Look after yourself. That's
Peter Lewis, our Asia Business correspondent right now. It's coming
up nineteen away from seven together do for c Len Right,
So here's the full story of what happened. So this
woman who has been arrested at the border to Almon Motangui,
forty nine years old. What happened was back in the
day she studied, took out a student loan, paid the

(01:27:42):
student loan back, but then she decided to go and
study again, and she took a small loan for some
certificates and a diploma. She didn't finish them. Student loan
ended up being thirteen thousand dollars. She left and moved
to Australia and has been there for twenty one years.
Didn't pay anything for that thirteen thousand dollars, accumulated all
of the interest and whatnot and became fifty eight thousand dollars.

(01:28:03):
IID has tried to get in touch with her. IID
has tried to get in touch with her. IID has
tried to get in touch with her. They haven't been
able to sort this out. She said, oh, paid two
hundred and fifty dollars a fortnight. They were like, nah, bro,
you got to pay more like seven hundred dollars a fortnight. Actually,
you could settle the whole damn thing, thanks very much.
Couldn't reach a resolution. As a result, IID sent her
a court summons and a court date in New Zealand

(01:28:25):
at the end of this month. She said, okay, cool,
I'll come back for the court date. But between that
summons and the court date later this month, she needed
to nip over here for her niece's birthday. Got here
last Wednesday, went to leave christ Church fly back to
the Gold Coast with her family Monday afternoon. Being the
ticket scans triggers an alert. Copper comes over, takes her

(01:28:47):
passport off her, tells her there's a warrant that has
been issued for her arrest because she's got an overdue
student loan balance. She's arrested, taken out of the airport,
take into christ Church Central Police Station and has ordered
then to appear in christ Church District bought through audio
visual link on Tuesday, which she does. She is still
right now. It's Friday. She's still in christ He she
cannot go back to Australia until she and IID reach

(01:29:09):
an agreement. Ird apparently will accept nothing short of payment
in full and has told her you need to go
and borrow money to pay us back. But she cannot
borrow money because she hasn't worked here for twenty years,
so she can't get a bank loan so she's got
a lawyer who's trying to navigate the process. I will
point you to the fact that we cannot apparently pay

(01:29:30):
the money, but we can afford a lawyer, and we
can afford tickets to come here and go back twice.
I'm just saying. Mar Tongui's lawyer, Dave Annanth, said he
didn't deny that his client should have engaged more within
land revenue, but he was taken aback that she had
been arrested. I'm a bit surprised about the actual arrest,

(01:29:53):
he said, and about the fact that they're not just
threatening it. So Dave thinks that id just threatens and
doesn't follow through, and they've followed through. I have dealt
with larger loans than this, he said, and longer periods,
and as far as I know, there haven't been arrests
in those cases. It's not common. It's very very rare. Well, Dave,
if you've been following the news, it's becoming more and

(01:30:14):
more common. Actually, now I've looked at this and I've thought,
do I feel sorry for her? And no, I do
not feel sorry for her. If she had paid back
at the two hundred and fifty dollars a fortnight or
whatever that she wanted to pay. We'll have take new
Donkeys years to pay the money back. It's seven hundred
dollars a fortnight. It would still take her about three
years and three months to pay it back. So you

(01:30:37):
can see like this, we could drag this out for
what like ten years, or we could get it paid
back in three years in a bit, or we could
just pay it up front. And I don't know about you,
but I think it's quite clear when people have been
taking the mickey out of the country, flying back and
forth with this massive loan, just being like, ah, the
Kiwi's thus suckers, they'll pay for my student loan and
they won't want it back. Well, we do want it back.

(01:30:57):
So actually I feel like she could pay before she
goes home. Do you think sixteen away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Crunching the numbers and getting the results, it's hither du
for selan with the business hour and mes for trusted
Home insurance solutions news talks.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
It'd be either if she'd started paying two hundred and
fifty dollars from the time she finished studying, it would
be all done. So tough to ease Princess thirteen away
from seven. Gevin Gray UK correspondents with us Ella Gevin
Hi there right, So we've got a couple of boats capsized,
have we yes.

Speaker 14 (01:31:28):
On the Mediterranean seas trying to make the journey from
Libya to Italy. There are sixty survivors, but at least
twenty seven have died. There is a search because it
was reported that well over ninety were on board, so
there's a search for probably a handful more people, but
that isn't likely to carry on too much longer, quite
simply because the conditions are obviously going to be difficult.

(01:31:52):
It capsized near the Italian island of Lampadusa, and it capsized,
and they've been arching during the day yesterday our time,
but overnight as well. And it appears that the boats
left Libya at a similar time. One capsized and then

(01:32:12):
the people on that boat tried to get on the
second boat, leading to the second boat to capsize. But
we haven't had that formally announced yet. And according to
different agencies, according at least two one twenty five thousand
people have gone missing or being killed while trying to
cross the central Mediterranean since twenty fourteen.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
So what is making Kirstama feel so confident about a
ceasefire ideal being struck between Putin and Trump.

Speaker 14 (01:32:39):
I don't know, because nobody else seems to be that
confident about that. But he threw a breakfast meeting for
Vladimir Zelenski and it was very, very symbolic. It was
the big hug on the doorstep for the cameras, followed
by a breakfast in Downing Street garden with the vase
full of sunflowers. Of course, the all the symbolism was

(01:32:59):
the flags, the colors, etc. And I think the message
is as much to Ukrainians that we are with you
as of Vladimir Putin saying we are standing firm, but
also to Donald Trump saying, look, you can't just decide
something without Ukraine at the table and then say that's
what the deal is, take it or leave it sort
of attitude, and he's saying that effectively, there is this

(01:33:23):
viable chance of a ceasefire in Ukraine, but Vladimir Putin
must prove he is serious about peace. And of course,
earlier this week the coalition of the willing European leaders
but also other countries from around the world who want
to see this war over and think that Russia has
to play its part in that massively have issued four

(01:33:45):
different demands, effectively saying there has to be a ceasefire.
There has to be one now before any of these
negotiations can really get underway.

Speaker 2 (01:33:53):
Okay, who actually is responsible for the sausage thin.

Speaker 14 (01:33:58):
So there's been a bit of a over who has
created the first bratwurst in Germany. Now Bratfurst, for the uninitiated,
is a bit like a very large frankfurter, and they're
normally made of either pork, beef or even venison at times.
And for many many years there's been the virtucule A

(01:34:20):
tavern in Bavaria saying we have the oldest bratfast stand
in the world, believing it on the stone bridge in
Regensburg to be roughly dating from thirteen seventy eight. However,
historians in the neighboring state capital of Thuringia are saying, actually,

(01:34:41):
we found a document dating twelve sixty nine that mentions
people who rented a building with a meat roasting stand
more than one hundred years earlier than the Regensburg sausage stand.
So Thuringia looking to take the crown away that has
not pleased the Bavarians, who's saying we're cooking at still
and we're got the best ingredients, et cetera. But they're

(01:35:05):
Ingia saying no, well, actually we think it should be us.
And indeed it's interesting. The Bavarian towns of Regensburg and
Nuremberg both used to claim the oldest sausage stand title. However,
a decision was made by formal authorities ruling in Reagan'sburg favor.
So it's not the first time this bizarre, bizarre fact
has been challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
The Germans love fighting about food, Devin, thank you. Gavin Gray,
UK correspondent, What German? Laura? Laura? What was he said?
It was like a big frank, big frank furter, Frank
furker furter. I can't say this word. You don't fry
frank furter, you boil it. You are So that's the difference.

(01:35:48):
Oh and bravos, Yeah, Brad means to fry, So it's
not even the same. What does Kevin know what he's
talking about? Hey, by the way, Laura, who's the Minister
of student loans? Was it Brooke? Would it be Minister
of revenue? Who's the Minister of revenue? Simon Watts. Hey
might be Simon what's responsible for all these but there'd

(01:36:10):
be about to be saying it Simon's doing with his
life at the moment. Actually, I mean in everything else,
it's a bit sort of mediocre. What's going on? The
old local government's not great energy. I haven't seen anything
going on, but jeez, we're going gangbusters on the old
student loan arrests. Heather Beautiful go the IID. There's nothing
we like more than getting our money back a because
this is how we'd roll in real life, so we
would like the government to roll the same with our dollars.

(01:36:31):
Eight away from seven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
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Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
Listen. I failed to mention this earlier on. This has
got to be the sale of the century, like this
is this is the bargain of forever. Kaiga Order has
just sold an eleven story apartment building in Wellington to
the local EWE Taranaki Fanno Limited. It's it's it's the
Dixon Street Flats. You might know that they're brutalist, right,
so they look like those hideous Gordon Wilson Flats that

(01:37:03):
have just been being slated for demolition, Dixon Street Flats
and Wellington eleven stories of them have been used for
community housing and like emergency housing and stuff like that.
One hundred and seventeen apartments in them. How much do
you reckon they sold them for? Remember eleven story building,
one hundred and seventeen different units in there. So if

(01:37:23):
you're charging rent, I don't know what are you charging
rent nowadays? Five hundred bucks all right? Times five hundred
bucks done, one, one seven, that's what you're going to
be getting weekly. How much you reckon they paid for them?
This is the eway?

Speaker 15 (01:37:34):
How much.

Speaker 2 (01:37:36):
One million? One million dollars bargain? I mean, look, it's
run down and it's ugly. Let's be honest. You're never
gonna get rid of the ugly though, that's just part
of the look. It's run down and you're gonna have
to do a fair bit of work on it and stuff.
But one million bucks is a bargain, isn't it. I
mean you you could maybe even maybe I don't know

(01:37:57):
what falling house prices have done in Wellington, but I
reckon you'd struggle to get a house in central Wellington
for a million bucks. But apparently you can get an
eleven story building. How good is that? I mean, if
we'd pulled our money together here on this show, we
could have bought it, and yet we didn't.

Speaker 13 (01:38:11):
Got maths on that. It's so one one seven times
five hundred fifty eight, five hundred times fifty two weeks.
That's three million a year a year. There's a few.
I mean, obviously you clearly have to probably do some
more work on it, but.

Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
You make back in four months what you bought it
for exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:38:27):
Bargin.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Yeah, j you couldn't get that house.

Speaker 13 (01:38:31):
My pool to the pool to the show salary will
help too much in buying it. But well, Jason, if
we can get care that will be nice.

Speaker 2 (01:38:37):
That's amazing.

Speaker 19 (01:38:38):
What have you got for it?

Speaker 16 (01:38:39):
Now?

Speaker 13 (01:38:39):
I've got half a thin. He's announced his debut album,
Silo Part that'll come out.

Speaker 2 (01:38:44):
Isn't this Tim Sun?

Speaker 13 (01:38:45):
Maybe I don't really know, hal Halper thin Yes, okay,
character stacks up by the last name October thirty one,
that's coming out. This is a single that came out
from it yesterday.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
What is it called?

Speaker 13 (01:38:58):
It's called Broken Glass. Enjoy this one.

Speaker 2 (01:39:01):
Boost that up? Quickly just crazy. Yeah, that's timpthing, Sun.
What do you reckon?

Speaker 13 (01:39:14):
We's interesting. I've only hear It's hard to judge on
twenty seconds, but I don't hate.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
It's a bit of his dad in there. Ah, but
it's not bad.

Speaker 13 (01:39:22):
Actually takes up it for me to like the new music.
So she's gone pretty well already.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
She'll tak Kregren in the year's time. All right, enjoy,
We'll see you on Monday. Have a lovely weekend.

Speaker 9 (01:39:31):
This talks.

Speaker 2 (01:39:31):
It'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:39:46):
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