Full Show Podcast: 21 August 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Heather
dupicy Ellen drive with One New Zealand to coverage like
no one else.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
News Talks that.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Be Afternoon, Welcome to the show coming up today. We've
bought choppers and planes. Judith Collins on her new kit
after five, The Mayor of Tasman on the mill shutting down,
David Seymour on why his government isn't cutting enough public servants,
and the Sky City CEO on that capital.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Rais Heather duplicy Ellen.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
I'm going to say thank you to the Police Commissioner
Richard Chambers for maybe reminding us to be grateful for
what we have. He's given an interview to the Herald
today and he said he thinks there is a fair
bit of punching down going on New Zealand, punching down
on New Zealand going on at the moment, and he
thinks that's unfair. He says, with the world going a
little crazy, I count us lucky that we are where
we are now, given how much doom and gloom there

(00:51):
is about at the moment. It may surprise you to
know that the accompanying pole, also in the Herald article
actually agrees with him. As unscientific as it is, people
rate their experience of living in New Zealand as eight
out of ten. Twenty percent of people say they have
an eight out of ten experience. Then the next one
up is ten out of ten. That's fifteen percent. Seven
out of ten comes next. Thirteen percent of us say that,

(01:13):
So seven, eight, nine, and ten out of ten account
for fifty eight percent of the votes. Way more than
half of us think that we are living in a
pretty great place.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
As I say, it's not un it's not scientific, but
it is a nice reminder that actually most of us
do know how good we've got it. It's really easy
to fall into the trap of thinking the grass is
greener on the other side, which is why so many
of us are leaving heading off to places like Australia. Actually,
if the other side is Australia, once they get there,
they are going to realize it's not that much greener.

(01:45):
They're going to go through the same stuff with the
economy that they were going through back here in New Zealand.
Life over there is expensive as well. And if the
other side is Europe, it's definitely not greener over there.
It's actually tens of thousands of refugees arriving on your doorstep.
It's huge unrest over migrants in the it's the threat
of war just across the border. Its cost of living
problems there too. Now I'm not poly pollyannash at all

(02:08):
about New Zealand. I know life is expensive. I know
there are people who have never had to budget who
are now having to budget. I can see that the
government books definitely need tidying up, and we're completely overdue
structural economic trade change. But at least most things are
headed in the right direction. Education for our kids has
been sorted out, red tape is being cut, the economy
is turning around, the days are getting longer, and we

(02:29):
live in a safe place with a good work life
balance where our kids can grow up fairly healthy. So
thank you to the Police Commissioner of all people for
reminding us of that.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Ever, do for see Ellen.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Nils text unders standard text spees apply now. A fair
bit of chat today about what happened with the football
and pooka koee. This is the one that charged into
the jewelry shop. What happened is the football leapt from
a moving car, are headed into the jewelry shop. This
is Michael Hill, and then lunched for a small dog
that was already in the shop. The woman who was
working in the shop ran over to intervene was able
to subdue the pitbull, but in the process tore her

(03:06):
rotator cuff as the football lunged. Football z owner was
issued an infringement. Dog was required to be muted in muzzle.
The woman who was working in the shop with Stacy Penn. Hi, Stacy, Hi,
how are you? I'm very well? Thank you? Do you reckon?
The punishment for the owner was fair.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
No, I don't actually why I don't because I think
when you have a dog like that, you should be
held responsible for the actions.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
What were the actions? I mean, here's the thing. I
love being tough on dogs. But did the dog bite anyone?

Speaker 5 (03:35):
No, it will bit the other dog. But the fact
that she'd already been warned previously and still chose to
drive around with her dog in a car. She'd been
told to muzzle it and didn't muzzle it. So it's
not the first time it's happened, is that right?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
So this so okay? What had happened before this? What
were the circumstances.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
According to a council. She had been warned before, as
they said in the Herald and View. The council responded
saying she had been worn previously.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Warned for what for the dog biting other dogs or
chasing other dogs?

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Chasing?

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Okay, And she had been told to muzzle the dog
in public?

Speaker 5 (04:10):
Yes, she had, and they reiterated that, yet she hadn't
done it. It was actually noted as an aggressive dog. So,
I mean, I love dogs. I've had dogs in the past,
having a little break at the moment mine passed away.
But I think that it's just it's like being well, honestly,
if you had a toddler that has been an absolute

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little bugger, would you you know, if you're in public,
would you blame the parent or the toddler? I would
blame the parent.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Yeah, fair point. Okay, So that you say the dog
did actually bite the kaboodle, she had.

Speaker 6 (04:43):
A go at it.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
Yes, the Luckily the kaboodle was very hairy at the
time and only sustained a few nips. I got in
there pretty quickly.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
What would have happened if you guys weren't there to
pull the dogs apart?

Speaker 5 (04:54):
I think the kaboodle would have probably been attacked severely
and bitten.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yes, very soon, Stacey Town. I'm quite harsh on dogs
because I do have a toddler and I hate the
idea of you know, I think dogs are such a
threat to kids, but also because I feel like the
council is not tough enough. And I think having been warned,
having ignored the warning, dog was attacking another dog would
have actually bitten the dog if you guys weren't there.
All of those things make me think that dog should

(05:21):
have been put down?

Speaker 5 (05:22):
What do you think it possibly should have been? Yes,
But I'm such a dog lover. I hate to think
of anything being put down. But if something as a
threaten threatening to another dog or an adult or a child,
then absolutely, I mean it's just a given, isn't it.
It's a very sad thing to say it probably will
happen again because that dog is very reactive. The way

(05:44):
it's being managed, it obviously doesn't have boundaries of safe
space and discipline. I'm not saying you should hate your dog,
but there are definitely things you can place to make
your dog less reactive to people. The fact that this
dog jumped out of a moving he worries me.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yeah, well that's pretty fall on.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
Just it wasn't just walking down the road on a leash,
saw a dog that had a sniff.

Speaker 7 (06:08):
And then they both went to it.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
This dog actually jumped out of a moving car across
the busy road and Pokacoe came into an establishment and
attacked a little kaboodle. Would you imagine had that dog
being with a owner who had a toddler with that dog.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, and well exactly would you if you wouldn't go
as far as I would and putting the dog down,
would you at least take the dog off the owner?

Speaker 8 (06:32):
I would.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
I would make her go through extremely intensive dog training
and see if that dog is going to be rehabilitated.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
In the past, I've actually had the blessing of having
an exciting dog. I got approached by somebody who saw
me on Facebook because I am very loved dogs, and
that dog now or she was sorry she's passed once
she learned that she didn't have to fight for food,
didn't have to be staunched because I asked her to
and I got her nursed. I think nursuring a dog

(07:07):
is a very very bixing in New Zealand, and I
also think that perhaps the government could step in and
make nursuring a lot more available for people because it's
so expensive.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
Yeah, that's a fair point. Hey, Stacy, thanks very much,
appreciate it and look after yourself. Stacy Penn, former Michael
Hill employee. World Boxing is introducing rules to make sure
that their female boxers carry female chromosomes. Now, you'll remember,
if you cast your mind back to the Olympics, this
was a huge drama with boxing and remember the Algerian
boxer and everybody was in the end, I think we

(07:39):
kind of worked out that she was into sex and
there was the problem anyway, as a result of all
of that drama, what they're going to do is introduce
mandatory testing. National teams will now be required to provide
chromosomal certification or face sanctions under the new policy. And
this probably means well, no, it does mean that the
Algerian boxer will not be able to compete until she

(08:00):
does the test. Quarter past It's.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
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Speaker 3 (08:10):
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Speaker 1 (08:22):
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Speaker 9 (08:29):
Hey, heare here, you going and very well?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Thank you. So Auckland's got a lady team, have they
not yet? I win?

Speaker 10 (08:36):
Two years?

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Twenty seven seven, twenty eight?

Speaker 9 (08:38):
Oh yeah, okay, Well, I'm sure that most of the
team and associated sponsors in the light would love to
have a women's team and the A League. I wonder
if the women's A League is still going in two years.
I'm being a bit.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Well, well, no, the A League full stops about Wobbley, right,
so the boys too?

Speaker 9 (09:02):
Yeah, I wonder. Look, I'd like to think it will last,
at will survive. It's probably got more growth in thean
men quite frankly, but they've not done a thought maybe
next year, but it's come out now that Nope, we're waiting.
It's going to be two you So twenty seven, twenty eight.
That will be lovely, thank you very much. So it's
good news coming out of Aka. You've see a lot

(09:23):
of football news around this week, new signings, new players.
It's a football and netball's been all the flavor. The
last couplet, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (09:29):
What's going on with girls dropping out so much faster
than boys when it's you know that teenage sport age.

Speaker 9 (09:35):
Well, I'm hopefully going to find out more about this.
There's been a study that's come out a sports psychologists
called Don Vertisse, and he's going to join us on
the show up after seven o'clock. The study says that
ninety five percent of girls ages eleven to seventeen aren't
active enough, and by age fourteen, girls are dropping out

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of sport at twice the rate of boys. Should we
be hugely alarmed by this? Does it actually mean long term?

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Who's responsible for this?

Speaker 9 (10:07):
What's the setup within sport that makes young girls go
and it's not for me? I'm gone?

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Is that what it is? Or is it who their
their role models are? Because you know, so many for
young men, so many male role models are sports players,
whereas for girls, the role models are Kardashians. So maybe
you don't want. I know, Darcy, you should well pull
that face. So maybe girls don't want to spend their
time running around the hockey field or the network court.
They want to spend their time going into whatever that

(10:34):
stupid makeup stores and getting their face done.

Speaker 9 (10:37):
You know, I couldn't tell you what that stupid making
up stores. Possibly I was the one where gangs of
tweens go in there and.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Steal what's I don't know. If they steal stuff they go.

Speaker 9 (10:48):
With right, Okay, Well I know the near department of
fifteen is kind of leaning toward that.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
See is your? Okay? Is yours?

Speaker 9 (10:55):
She's not into sports, her hasband. I've tried my entire
life to get her into sport and she's played any things. No,
she's not. She swims really well, it's a really good swimmer.
Tried of itself, life saving, tried football, try cricket, try,
just see our interest in that competitive streak. It just
doesn't do it for it And I don't want to
force it into a situation you must do this, because

(11:17):
that's not gonna work. I've given her plenty of opportunity
right from the get go. Hey do you want to
to go?

Speaker 10 (11:22):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (11:22):
Do you want to have a go. But she tends
to art and language and things like that, which is fine.
I don't mind, but.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Must have been smart at.

Speaker 9 (11:33):
Active kids are very, very important. So we'll be talking
tonight to that psychologist about who's to blame. Is it
just a natural occurrence? What has to change in the
landscape in order to encourage I'm just talking about young girls.
I mean, there's plenty of boys Bobby too, but encourage

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teenagers when they get to that stage to actually stay
within sport, although a woman coming to the team years
is a whole lot more going on in their heads. Anyway,
Let's get to the tab where, of course, we always
bet responsibly. This is my tip for you this week.
I'm not entirely sure if you're going to buy into
this one. The Woman's Ugly World Cup is coming up.

(12:15):
Let's go over the weekend. Okay, So that's great. I
like long term bets. Yeah, because it's kind of a burner.
That's how long burner.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Well, you don't have to admit your failure in the
short term. That's why you like it.

Speaker 9 (12:25):
Carry on, Okay, fine, I don't admit to failure. That
we don't fail, we learn, Yep.

Speaker 10 (12:32):
Fail up.

Speaker 9 (12:32):
We get this though, right. The English women are favorites
at a dollar thirty five.

Speaker 10 (12:36):
I get that.

Speaker 9 (12:37):
Within the tournament. New Zealand women are coming in at
three dollars fifty, which is okay, the Canadians seven dollars.
The French are paying fifteen dollars. If that's not worth
a lash, I don't know what is that is crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
In my opinions, just a couple of moms, very.

Speaker 9 (12:54):
Very good and they're just across the ditch from home.
I thought maybe they'd be up equal with the New
Zealand women or maybe even better so fifteen bucks on
the French women to win the World Cup. That's where
your money's at. Ri eighteen bet responsible.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Thank you, Darcy, appreciate it. He'll be back. Darcy wautographs
Sports Talk at seven o'clock for twenty three.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
It's heather due for cellen drive with one New Zealand
coverage like no one else news talks.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
They'd be either.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
I wonder what the nutrient cost of a dog is
compere all the spain in costs compared to the cost
of feeding a beast like that. If you can aford
offeed it I thought you could have afford to neutrient. Look,
I you know what here it is. Here's the problem
is it's not I don't think it's a cost thing.
In the end, it's just a it's just actually a
responsible ownership, isn't it is? Because of that lady's being
told that that dog needs to be muzzled when it's outside,

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and then she's not muzzling the dog. That's just not
really not really caring, is it? Four twenty six? Listened
Penny Henade has caused a bit of trouble, isn't he.
He was at a debate last night because he's standing
in Tarmaki Makoto for the by election, and he was
asked an interesting question, will.

Speaker 11 (13:58):
You repeal the gang patch law if you was come
into government?

Speaker 10 (14:03):
Yes or no?

Speaker 3 (14:04):
Well I would have thought the answer to that is
affirm no, but Pennie Pennie didn't think that. So he's
going to repeal the gang patch law anyway. It didn't
take very long for Labor to realize that that shouldn't happen.
The Deputy leader, Carmel Sepalone said he got a bit confused.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
He's the he's on.

Speaker 12 (14:21):
The campaign trail, and you know, occasionally things are said.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
She was asked with her she's going to give him
a telling off.

Speaker 12 (14:29):
There's certainly no need for a telling off here. I
think that he's mistaken, and you know, and these things happen.

Speaker 13 (14:36):
Now.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
I don't know about you, but when when things like
this happen, I tend to just I tend to assume
that the person who spoke first is actually telling the
truth because the other ones had time to think about
it and gone, oh, what, what do the people really want? Okay,
let's say that. You know what I mean. So I
think I think the first response that you get is
the true response, which is Penny Penny was right that
they planned to repeal back repeal the gang patch bill.

(14:58):
At least in their hearts, that's what they want to do.
And I never understand this about Labor. I don't I
never understand why they're paned to the gangs this much,
because how many gang members are there, like, what ten
thousand or something like that, So what they're chasing ten
thousand votes, but they will lose so many votes from
the rest of us who quite like that patch ban. Actually,
so the calculation seems off. To me, but maybe Berrisopa

(15:21):
can explain it when he's with us later. News is next.
Twice time flies and only twice.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
The day's newspakers talk to Heather first, Heather Duplicy Ellen
drive with one New Zealand and the power of satellite mobile.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
New Saw said be.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Here that these people don't new to their dogs because
they think it's cool to show off the dogs, bulls, Barcho,
buffpead stuff or John. Thank you for explaining that everything
makes a lot more sense now. Actually, we've got another
case of another mill closing. Unfortunately this time it's cart
Hold Harvey's Eves Valley sawmill. This is the one near Nelson.
Apparently it's not because of the energy prices like all

(16:10):
the other mills. Apparently it's because of actually actually because
of efficiency and investment. So they appear to have put
a lot of money into their mill and Calwado in
the central North Island, and because that's much more efficient,
it now has extra capacity. So they're going to take
the timber that would have gone through than the mill
down in Nelson, ship it all the way up to Covido,
put it through there and it must make economic sense,
which is quite quite hard to get your head around.

(16:32):
But it must be cheaper to take the timber all
the way to the North Island and put it through
there than it would have been to keep that other
one going. Anyway, not quite a done deal. Consultation finishes
on first to September. Decision made on fourth of September.
I think we know how this one always goes. We'll
have a chat to the Tasman math after five o'clock
twenty four away from five.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's the world wires on news talks, Eddy Drive So.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Israeli troops have moved into the outskirts of Gaza City.
Sixty thousand reservists have been called up to allow active
duty groups to fully occupy the city next month. A
former editor of The Jerusalem Post says the government should
instead be considering hmas as ceasefire proposal.

Speaker 14 (17:07):
The thought that a deal might be possible, but the
government's practice prioritizing this operation does give people great concern.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Russia's foreign minister has weighed in on the latest round
of Ukraine meetings, Sergei Lavrov. He says any security agreement
that a guarantee rather that's agreed as part of a
peace deal will have to serve Russia's interests.

Speaker 15 (17:27):
Seriously discussing security issues without the Russian Federation is a utopia,
a road to nowhere.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
And finally, a YouTuber in China has built a miniature
subway station for his cat.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
It's taken me.

Speaker 9 (17:42):
Four months to build a subway system for cat Town,
but it's finally opened today.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
Aha cat Town Lord. The station includes a working train,
carriage and escalator and this particular YouTuber loves doing stuff
like this. The cat already has its own theater, supermarket.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
And international correspondence with ends in eye insurance peace of
mind for New Zealand business people are weird.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Murray Old's Australia correspondent, he does very good afternoons.

Speaker 10 (18:12):
Speaking of weird years.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
There you go speaking off with Nittya, who's had another
cracked elbow? Has he?

Speaker 13 (18:18):
He certainly has double damn on his criticism of the
Australian Prime Minister early this week. I mean he's appearing
on Sky News tonight, but of course Sky News has
been teasing some of the audio and basically Netta, who
has backed up his description from earlier in the week
that elbow was weak and you know, had abandoned Australian
Jews by recognizing, you know, a Palestinian state, and by

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and by basically deny the federal government denying a visa
with this right wing fellow to come and have a
speaking to of Australia. Netna, who's told Sky News Albanesi
has shown weakness by pledging Australia will recognize the state
and by banning this member of CAP from coming here.

Speaker 10 (19:01):
Australian Jewish leaders have.

Speaker 13 (19:02):
Written to both Prime ministers and basically told Netanyahu a
very clumsy intervention, a woneful lack of understanding of the
social and political conditions here in Australia. But this afternoon
the Israeli.

Speaker 10 (19:15):
Minister for Diaspora Affairs has weighed in.

Speaker 13 (19:19):
He says that the Prime Minister here, Albanzi a political
calculation of quoting now Hew, a political calculation of appeasing
Islamists and radical leftists here in Australia.

Speaker 10 (19:30):
Because of course, Tony Burke, the.

Speaker 13 (19:33):
Home Affairs Minister, said, listen, if this fellow comes and starts.

Speaker 10 (19:37):
Talking, he could really upset Islamic people in Australia. So look,
it's a mess.

Speaker 13 (19:42):
It's not pleasing to have two very long and strong
allies in Israel and Australia had odds in this way, but.

Speaker 10 (19:49):
Alban EZI won't be swayed. And I mean I think
perhaps it's.

Speaker 13 (19:52):
A badge of honor almost that he's there with Canada,
with France, with the United Kingdom in saying you know what,
along with about one hundred and fifty other countries that
are going to say, of.

Speaker 10 (20:01):
The United Nations, we recognize a Palestinian state.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
What are we expecting out of this economic groundtable.

Speaker 10 (20:08):
Gosh, that's a great question.

Speaker 13 (20:09):
If I knew the answer, I'll be at the share
market this afternoon.

Speaker 10 (20:13):
But look.

Speaker 13 (20:17):
The big thing to come out of it so far
this week, And don't forget a lot of this has
been in camera, right It's business leaders, bankers, unions.

Speaker 10 (20:25):
All that sort of stuff.

Speaker 13 (20:26):
It's in camera in Canbra So a little bit to
dribble out. But the big news this week is a
major reform of the National Disability Insurance scheme. It's going
to be tightened to rain in exploding costs. There are
huge numbers of children diagnosed with mild autism or developed
develop mental delays, and these children who you know, I

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needy kids, no doubt about it. But what they're doing
is putting extreme financial pressure on a scheme here that
that wasn't intended originally to support people with severe and
lifelong disabilities. Think, you know the guys and girls in wheelchairs,
for example, amputees have been injured in the workplace accident,
not children who are having.

Speaker 10 (21:11):
Trouble at school.

Speaker 13 (21:12):
So what the government's proposing here is a separate scheme
to start from mid twenty twenty six.

Speaker 10 (21:17):
It's called Thriving Kids.

Speaker 13 (21:18):
It's going to be funded jointly by the states and
by the federal government.

Speaker 10 (21:22):
I'll just give you a quick couple of stats.

Speaker 13 (21:24):
Three quarters of a million people are now getting financial
support from the National Disability Insurance Scheme.

Speaker 10 (21:29):
Right.

Speaker 13 (21:29):
One hundred thousand joined the scheme last year, seventy percent
with children under fifteen. And I mean those conditions autism,
mild autism and so on were previously diagnosed and treated
by general practice. The government says, unless they rain and
spending and wind back some of the stuff, the ndis

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in ten years time is going to cost more than defense,
Aged care and medicare combined over.

Speaker 10 (21:55):
One hundred and five billion dollars a year. Unsustainable.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
Yeah, totally. What do you make of Queensland's government selling
meetings with ministers to businesses.

Speaker 10 (22:03):
Cheeky made cheeky. They haven't been in power for ten years, right, So.

Speaker 13 (22:07):
David Christopher Foley, I've got the big you know, the
first the first national state convention in government for a decade.

Speaker 10 (22:15):
So on the eve of this convention, they had a
big powerwell today in Brisbane. And guess what.

Speaker 13 (22:21):
And I'll tell you that this is fifteen minute meetings
for a minister.

Speaker 10 (22:25):
It might be the health minister.

Speaker 13 (22:27):
Okay, it's going to cost you ten thousand dollars basically,
And all sorts of people were signing up for this.
Mining companies, business leaders, insurance companies, the Australian newspapers, there's
even publicans and botox clinics were spending money.

Speaker 10 (22:43):
I was spending ten fifteen minutes to say, buddy, hell
I got a great botox clinic. Dam don't shut me down.

Speaker 13 (22:48):
All lining up to bend the minister really is The
invitation was leaked, you know, and the ministers were to
be numbered in order of preference. So I mean, basically,
David Cristoph Fooley, he's led the coloristion to power. Last
October they won fifty two out of ninety three seats,
tossing out labor. As I say, labor was on the
nose big time, so they're going to make hay with

(23:08):
the sunshines. If you want to see a minister on
this one day, only ten thousand dollars fifteen minutes seems dodgy.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Hey, thank you very much, Mars appreciate it. Murray Old's Australia.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Correspondent Heather Duper s La.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Heather, would you pay twenty dollars for a foot long subway? Tom?
I'm glad you asked that question. It is in the
Herald because Rafael from the Herald has gone and bought
himself a subway sandwich, a full a foot long chicken
pepperoni sub and has been shocked at the fact that
it's cost twenty dollars, which actually I think, Oh, I
don't know if it's a Herald story, but hear it

(23:40):
as we are discussing, and I do think it is
a question though, because Sam, the producer, came in I
think it might have been Monday, actually it was this week,
came in with a subway and told us that he'd
paid twenty dollars for it, and we will shocked, So
he must have ordered the same thing. That's a shocking
price for a for a sandwich, isn't it. I mean,
it's a shocking price for a sandwich, but you'd expect

(24:01):
it to be a gourmet sandwich. You wouldn't expect it
to be just a subbers Would you like that? That
is far too much? Well, I mean I think have we.
What I don't understand about this is that first of all,
Sam paid it, because at that point I think I
might have gone on, ah, you can keep it, that's
all right, I'm just going to get some sushi, which
is healthier for you and cheaper. But then he went
back two days later and did it again. So I

(24:23):
don't this. I don't understand anyway. I think this has
gone I think subway has gone bonkers. I also think
that lunch prices have gone bonkers, because actually you'd struggle
to find anything under about twelve dollars in the central city.
Can I give you a tip? This is the other
day the husband went and discovered the absolute bargain lunch
in central Auckland. If you go to Woolworth's they have

(24:47):
a DEALI and if you've got a good Woolworth's, it
will have a sandwich in the DEALI and they make
the most epic sandwiches in the Woolworth's delly. And today
today I had a chicken at Cranberry cam and beer.
I know, I know, I mean, it's like it's two
thousand and two and I was still eating the same sandwich.
But I had one of those. And do you know
how much it cost me? Six dollars? Six dollars And

(25:09):
then you bring it into the toaster of working, you
toast the life out of it. Dang, who has a
lunch for six dollars? Nowadays Woolworths, does You're welcome Quarter two.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
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Speaker 2 (25:21):
Certainty?

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Right, Barryso for senior political correspondence with US Hallo, Barry,
Good afternoon, Heather. Okay, so we've got the big big
defense spend announced.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Well, yes it is, and those seven five sevens are
finally going to be replaced. Thank goodness for that. I mean,
I've traveled, I've almost got a gold card on those things.
I've traveled on them since they got them virtually and
you know, the breaking down of them could never you
could never be assured of having a faultless trip, so

(25:49):
they're going. But the money for those will be spent
in Europe, which is interesting because they're rear bussers. But
if you look at the Seahawk helicopters, they're going to
get five of those. Now that's lockeed Martin, which is
of course an American company, And asked Judith Collins, I
know you're going to be talking to her after five o'clock,
but she was asked today if this could be used

(26:11):
as a sweetener by our trade minister Tod McClay, who
just happens to be in Washington today to talk about
those fifteen percent tariffs. Judith Colins says she wouldn't presume
to tell mister McLay what to do.

Speaker 16 (26:25):
I don't know because I'm not his mother and I
haven't told him what to do. Well, number one, we
never discussed what goes on cabinet number two, As Minister
Peter's rightly said in one of my own survival mechanisms
is to stay in my own lane. But I think
it is obvious that we are buying the best equipment

(26:46):
that we can for our people with the money we
have available to meet our needs and our interoperability requirements.
So in terms of that, that will be up to
the Minister for Trade, who I have to say is
doing an outstanding job and doesn't need my guidance.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah, so Donald Trump will be happy, although it won't
make up that deficit in terms of trade worth three
and a half billion dollars in credit to America. So
we're not going to spend the night.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Hold on, is it three and a half billion annually?

Speaker 4 (27:17):
It swept three and a half billion the last figures
that was annually.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
I think it's annually, right, So if you do it
on a monthly basis we might be okay with.

Speaker 4 (27:27):
If Tom McLay could be persuasive, but I doubt it somehow.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Yeah, hopefully fingers cross. What's labor strategy for winning next year?

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Well, it's really interesting, isn't it that, Chris. There's been
a lot of talk about labor really doing very little,
and it's true, no policy letting the government they would
say hang themselves. Well, Chris Hipkins admitted today that they
weren't prepared enough for the government when Winston Peters handed

(27:54):
the reins over to Jacinda durn in twenty seventeen. But
if you listen on Carie Woodham show this morning. They're
not going to make that mistake again.

Speaker 17 (28:04):
We weren't as well prepared for being in government in
twenty seventeen as we need it to be, and I
think I was more prepared than some of the others.
But I'm determined as a leader of the party that
next time around our MPs will all be ready. You know,
we're doing a lot of professional development with our team,
you know, getting people, getting external people, and this government
to some extender. As bad as our government was in
promising things which they haven't been able to deliver.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Well, he hasn't got to Willow Jean yet, has he.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Well he also hasn't got to Penny Henada.

Speaker 18 (28:32):
No.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
You know, here's Henad saying quite categorically at that debate
last night that gang patches will be back on the
gang members' backs after the next Telee.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
Can you just really quickly, just really quickly explain to
me the calculation. Why do they chase ten thousand gang
votes at the expense of what must be so many
more normal people votes.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
I do not know. I mean, you could say, and
I heard your postulation on this that normally a person
speaks to the truth when they say at first yes,
and then now they've had time to sort of cover
it up. But look, that to me has to be
Labor Party policy. I mean, why would Penny Henarde say
it quite what I'm saying immediately and without hesitating.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Speak the truth the first time round?

Speaker 10 (29:16):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Okay, what's happening to the ability to take strike action?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Well, certainly Brook van Valden is playing a funny game,
I think, and it was the teacher strike of course.

Speaker 10 (29:26):
Yesterday.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Van Walden was pressed further by Labour's Jantinetti in Parliament
this afternoon about the government's plans for strikes and given
the teachers union strikes, But in my view she was
being altogether too smart. See what you think.

Speaker 19 (29:40):
I cannot rule in around future changes in any policy area,
because government decisions are made at cabinet.

Speaker 20 (29:47):
Will the government introduce barriers such as mandatory mediation periods
prior to people being legally able to strike?

Speaker 19 (29:56):
I would highly suspect if the question keeps going down
this line, you might be starting to give the government.

Speaker 20 (30:03):
A lot of thoughts. Will the government introduce limitations on
when strikes can start, such as only allowing strikes during
the school holidays.

Speaker 19 (30:13):
The member may wish to stop giving other colleagues of
mine some ideas.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
She's got your go to, Brook's got your go to.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
She did get irritated you being a smarter just the
question I.

Speaker 3 (30:28):
Can tell Barry, thanks very much. Bary Soper, Senior political correspondent,
eight away from five.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
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Speaker 21 (30:37):
Wonderful world of the Central Bank. In their view of
where we're asked, Christian hawksby acting Reserve Bank Governor's back
with us.

Speaker 18 (30:42):
It's really been the economy stalling over this QU two
that's revised down, and that's what we're responding to.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
The Q two.

Speaker 21 (30:49):
A lot of people saw it coming and were yelling
and you didn't. How come you didn't see it?

Speaker 18 (30:53):
Well, we saw some of that come through in the
early phase and we indicated that there was some signs.
The essence the there's been even more signed. So we've
got more confidence that we can lower rate. So we
can lower them very quite great.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Here, but you should have done that already.

Speaker 22 (31:06):
We just look forward.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
From where we are is all we can do.

Speaker 21 (31:09):
We play the ball in front of us back tomorrow
at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vida
News Talks.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
The'd be listen.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
I'm going to get you across what David Seymore said
and just to Tick just needs to draw your attention
to something. There is another debate around suppression laws that
is happening at the moment because of the case of
a wealthy a member of a very wealthy Kiwi family
who has just been convicted of having pretty extreme child
abuse material. And this person has had his name suppressed. Now,

(31:38):
his name, his family's name, their high profile company all
permanently suppressed. According to the NBR who's been reporting on it.
He's gone to jail. He's also been placed on the
Child's sex offender register. Now I don't know the reasons
for the suppression. This hasn't been made clear, but you
would have to assume it's got something to do with
the fact that it would impact on everybody around him
and the business and stuff because of how high profile
he is. This is where it's become really tricky. Somebody

(32:01):
has gone on Grock, which is Twitter's AI chatbot, and
ask Groc who it is, and Groc has come back
and said it's Wainwright, as in like the right family,
as in the best start people. So it's just like
and not just once, not just in one mistake. Has
repeatedly answered the question with, well, it appears to be Waynwright,

(32:24):
who's been convicted. Here wain Wright says, this is not
Wayne right, he's sitting there, he's not in jail at
the moment, so it can't be him. He has said,
whoever it is ought to come clean with who it is,
no matter the consequence, basically name themselves because as he
points out, and this isn't this is This is an
interesting take on the name suppression debate. Because this person

(32:45):
has had their names suppressed, there are not that many
high profile, wealthy families. It creates speculation about who it
can be, and so everybody else who's innocent get their
names drawn into this when it's not them. So it
doesn't just affect the family of the center of it,
the person at the center of it, but everybody else
around there is well anyway, I'd imagine that that that's
going to cause all kinds of trouble. Customs, by the way,

(33:05):
may appeal the name suppression and may get it lifted,
and it feels like there may be a case for that. Davidson. Well,
I'm going to deal with him in the next half hour.
Next up, let's talk to Judith Collins about replacing the
Prime Minister's planes and then also the shutting down of
that mill in Tasman. Newstorgs be.

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Speaker 2 (33:43):
New Doorgs V afternoon.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
After years of embarrassing breakdowns, the Prime Minister's planes are
being replaced. The two old seven five sevens will be
replaced by two Airbus A three two one planes. We're
also buying five new Seahawk helicopters equipped with anti submarine
torpedo systems, how fire missiles and machine guns. And the
total bill comes to two point seven billion dollars. Judith
Collins is the defensemanis to hi, Judith, Oh, Hi, Heather,

(34:09):
how far can these new Prime ministerial planes go?

Speaker 7 (34:12):
Well, they can go from Auckland to Singapore and one go.
They can also go from christ Church to the Antarctic
and come back without having to land. So that's the
situation if there's a whiteout or a major problem down
when our pilots get down to Antarctica at the moment
there's a point of no return. And this time, once

(34:36):
these are in place, they'll be able to go down
there and come back if they have to without loss
of life.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
So if they can go to Singapore, does that mean
you can get to Europe in just two flights?

Speaker 7 (34:47):
Yeah, well, well I don't know if it's quite Europe
in that time, but certainly all of Asia and the
Pacific it's a huge amount better. And of course it's
not only for the delegations. A lot of this is
around our movement of troops and bringing people for a space.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
Why not go boeing?

Speaker 7 (35:04):
Well, there are reasons for it, and the reasons that
we're put up is that this is the longest range
that we could have for the narrow body of the
aircraft and that within our price range. In addition to that,
it's the ability to go to and from Antarctica all
in one go is unbelievably important.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
When are they arriving are we.

Speaker 7 (35:28):
Think probably about early twenty twenty eight and what we're
doing is we're a bit faster than some people getting
them because we're doing this lester to buy program with
a very large supplier or someone who buys an awful
lot of brand new planes, and so we're on that
sort of system, so we can get them a bit earlier,

(35:48):
and it apparently works out quite a lot cheaper if
we do it that way.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Now, when we finally get around to paying for the
Seahawks and we're buying them modestly from the US, do
you think the US will rethink their tariffs against US?

Speaker 7 (36:00):
Well, I mean, it's up to them obviously, but I
think the pointer is with the Seahawks is wouldn't be
looked at all of the defense I should say, looked
at all of the options around which helicopters to get
maritime for what we need for interoperability with Australia. But
also these these ones don't need us to do very

(36:21):
much at all when it comes to each changes to
the ships or other ships that we might get in
the future. They're very easy for us. And you know, look,
I'm sure that US will make their own decisions. The
point is is that we've got to get the right
equipment for defense.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Hey, how much more were you prepared to pay the teachers?

Speaker 7 (36:42):
Well, look, it's not really up to me. They need
My answer is always get back to the bargaining table.
And I'm just the Public Services Minister. But my view
is you cannot. You cannot bargain with people who's first
instinct is to get out and strike work.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Judith, I mean they did one day of strikes and
then Brian Roach said all right, we'll pay you more.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
Well, I'm not sure that he said that. I think
he said get back for bagging table, and I think
that's the message to anybody.

Speaker 10 (37:08):
Well, he said that the.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Payoff would go up, he said it wasn't good enough
and it would go on.

Speaker 7 (37:12):
Well, I don't know, but I mean other point is
I'm focused on defense today and national security, and I'd
say to anybody just get to the bag being table
and please please don't organize all your marketing and strikes
before you've ever heard an offer.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Okay, Judith is and thanks very much, Judith Collins, Defense
Minister and also minister. But does it sound to you
like Judith was surprised by that. I don't know if
Brian had told Judith that he said this yesterday eleven.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Past five, Heather duplessy Ellen.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
Yet another mill is likely to close. This time it's
Carter hold Harvey's Eves Valley sawmill near Nelson. One hundred
and forty two jobs could be lost if this does happen.
Tasman mayor Tim King lives next door to the mill
and he's with us now.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Hey, Tim, Hey, here you go.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
I'm very well. Thank you, Tim. It doesn't sound like
this time it is related to the price of energy.
It just sounds like the co o omeil is very efficient. Yeah.

Speaker 11 (38:02):
Absolutely, I mean this is just a pure business decision.
This is a very efficient saw mill. There's actually been
a lot invested it in the last five years to
make it as efficient as possible. It's just that Carroerra
was more efficient and they obviously want to source all
their sown timber from a single location. So yep, not
due to energy prices or anything to do with this
mill itself. Just so happens there's one mill that's more

(38:25):
efficient than this one.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Which says to me then that it's probably a case
of you guys not being able to change their minds.

Speaker 10 (38:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (38:32):
From the conversations I've had over the course of today
that that's absolutely the perception I've got. There's no chance
of this decision changing.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Okay, Well tell me you know for your area, how
devastating is the loss of one hundred and forty two jobs.

Speaker 11 (38:47):
It's very significant and it's so Obviously the most significant
impact and most immediate is on those one hundred and
forty two people directly employed at these valley but there
is a wide range of other businesses that support these
valley saw mill. It's a big component of the forestry
sector in this region. So it's a very significant impact.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
So if it does go ahead, and it sounds like
it's going to what happens to the land next to you?

Speaker 11 (39:11):
Again, my understanding is it's going to be retained in
the ownership of card Holt Harvey. The mill will be mothboard,
The recently installed equipment is likely to be disassembled in
ship to Carrell or another location, and this land will
ultimately the fate of it will be decided by Cardholt
Harvey at some point in time.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
All right, Tim, thanks for talking to us. Appreciate it,
Tim King Tasman.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Mayor together do for cel.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
You will have seen the legislation's past, which means that
you can talk about how much you're being paid. We're
going to deal with that next. Can I just say
the O spa a thought for the Pulse as in
the netball team, because they have just lost their fifth
player now that the rules have changed this time around.
It is Amelia Walmsley who is, apparently it's understood, heading
off to the UK. She is quite a loss for

(39:59):
them because she scored the most goals in the competition
this year, most prolific shooter in the Competition's quite a
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Thank you for correcting, but still the Pulse of Loster,

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haven't they? So spare a thought for the pulse? Seventeen
past five. Now you can officially tell anyone right now
what you're getting paid, because a new law passed last
night that ends the right of employers to place gag
orders on staff talking about their salaries. Jordan Boyle is
an employment lawyer at Dieberg Drayton Law and with us. Hey, Jordan,
how you going. I'm well, thank you. So if you've
got the contract, the clause in your contract that gags you,

(41:26):
you can now just ignore it.

Speaker 23 (41:29):
Well to a certain extent, the law prohibits the new
law prohibits employers from taking adverse action that's defined in
the act, and essentially it's basically stopping you from being
promoted or afforded the same terms and conditions of other employees.
There are potentially actions that employers could take in terms
of breach of contract if they felt like they were

(41:51):
damaged by an employee disclosing their remuneration. That'll be something
interesting in terms of how case law develops.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
What do you foresee them what would be the reason
for them being able to do that.

Speaker 23 (42:03):
Well, perhaps if an employee disclose that in bad faith,
maybe to a competitor or something to try and undermine
an employer's business, that could be something that an employer
might choose to take action against. But it sort of
prevents basically employees from not having the same terms and
conditions as other employees and their employment might have.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Do you think employers have to brace themselves now for
a whole bunch of grumpy employees turning up because they've
been sharing their payover office strengths.

Speaker 23 (42:33):
I think the first question is will people actually change
their behavior in terms of disclosing their pay. Obviously some
employers have these clauses, but They're not particularly common. It's
not something I see a lot in my practice, and
I think we already have a bit of a culture
in terms of your pay is private for a lot
of people, and they don't necessarily disclose that to other employees.

(42:54):
Now the people may feel a little bit more freedom
to ask, but you don't have to share. But people
may choose this year and then Yeah, employers may face
some difficult conversations where they might have to justify their
decisions as to why someone's paid different.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
But they can they though, Jordan, because what if you
go to the boss and you go, well, Laura is
getting paid more than me, and I don't think that's fair.
Can the boss actually tell you why they're paying Laura
more or is that is there a privacy privacy problem there?

Speaker 23 (43:23):
Well, I think it really comes down to why they're
paying Lawa more than someone else, and they probably should
more focus on your performance and the reasons why you
are paid what you are paid.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
Which is a very bumming out conversation, isn't it.

Speaker 23 (43:38):
Yeah, to an extent, it's sort of hard to say, well,
Laura is better at a job than you, or Laura
Laura smashes it it's probably more to say, you know,
there's some areas you can improve if you want to
get paid. But there are obviously a range of factors.
You know, it can be performance, it can come down
to whether someone was you know, poach from a competitor.
And sometimes you just got to pay more when you

(43:59):
go to the market than what you might be paying
a current employee, for example.

Speaker 3 (44:04):
It'd be so nally Jordan, thanks very much, appreciate it,
Jordan Boyle, Employment lawyer, Die Berg Drayton Law. I think
employers need this like a hole in the head. I'll
tell you what actually something else that people need like it.
This is Nikola Willison needs this like a hole in
the head. David seymour Is. He's not named it, but
he's basically taken a crack at her. He's complaining that
Nikola Willison National haven't cut enough public servants.

Speaker 24 (44:26):
I believe that there's still too many people and we're
not necessarily delivering better services than in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
And basically spending too much money.

Speaker 24 (44:35):
This government is not saving money as aggressively as the
act Party would.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Well now I don't know how long he can carry
this on for because he's part of the government and
if you're going to blame Nikola Willison National, you're gonna
blame him too because he's failed to deliver. But anyway,
he's with us in about fifteen minutes time and we'll
ask him that five twenty one.

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Speaker 2 (45:00):
Scuse DOGSV It's.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Five twenty four. Listen, I need to talk about this
pitbull situation which has been getting a fair bit of
discussion today on the station. Auckland Counsel, in my opinion,
has absolutely not gone hard enough on the owner and
the dog here. So what's happened if you haven't caught
up on this, is that last August there was a
woman called Stacy Penn was working in the Michael Hill
jewelry store in Pokakoe, south of Auckland, and at this

(45:24):
point in time she's coupling. Her friends come in brought
the kavoodle and she's busy coupling the little caveroodle. Right
then a pitbull jumps out of a car driving down
the road outside. The football runs into the store, starts
trying to attack the little dog. Stacy manages to keep
the dogs apart, but she says the football does manage
to bite the smaller dog, and then while she's holding
the pit bull, lunges so aggressively that it tears her

(45:47):
rotator cuff. Now Auckland Council's punishment was to issue the
owner of the pit bull and infringement for failing to
keep it under control, give the owner education on how
to prevent it happening in the future, require the dog
to be newted and to wear a muzzle in public,
but basically get on, get on with just living with
the dog, you know, living the best life with the dog. Again.

(46:07):
What we now learn though, is that the dog was
already under instructions to be muzzled in public and wasn't,
and that this is not the first time it has happened,
in which case I think Auckland Council should just basically
draw a line under it and say no more warnings
a dog that bites as a dog that bites, and
take the dog away from the owner, which clearly has
lost the privilege of having a dog if you can't
muzzle the dog, and if the if the owner can't

(46:28):
muzzle the dog in public and then given no one
else will want this pitbull, just take it and put
it down. Auckland Council does not go hard enough on
dog attacks. In April, remember there was the story about
the dog that attacked the girl in the park. The
council took the dog and then basically just give the dog,
gave the dog back to its owners. That is a
slam dunk case of where a dog should be put down.
If a dog attacks a kid, put the dog down.

(46:49):
The council is desperate right now to get some good
media coverage for dog prosecutions because the number of prosecutions
is going up, and I do appreciate that from the council,
But until they are prepared to put down day jerious
dogs and confiscate dangerous dogs from bad owners, they will
simply not be doing enough.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
Ever do for see Allen Hey.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Something that has got a little bit of chat in
Wellington actually today is the Wellington Eatery two Gray, which
is the one that's below the Intercontinental Hotel. What they're
doing at two Gray is they're asking people if people
want to take Yeah, sometimes you order a meal and
it's bigger than you expecting. You want to take the
leftover's home in a doggy bag, they say if people
want to If people want to take the left covers home,

(47:29):
they have to sign date and time stamp in agreement
before they are allowed to do this. This is what
it says. In taking away the food detailed below, you
acknowledge that you should be responsible for the safe transportation
and storage of the food and understand that the agreement
is on the basis that we accept no liability in
respect of the food once it's removed from the premises.

(47:49):
As with any food taken away from the hotel, we
recommend it as eaten as soon as possible or refrigerated
at or below five degrees celsius within four hours of preparation.
Now I don't know about you, but that seems over
the top, doesn't it, Because I mean, when, like, how
often have you taken something home just left it, left
it on the counter overnight and then eating it the

(48:10):
next morning. You'll be fine, right, You don't have to
actually like this. This business is of refrigerating everything to
within an inch of its life is just silly anyway,
because I think it is over the top. I'm gonna
ak and I have quite relaxed standards when it comes
to food. I'm not gonna lie, you know, on the floor.
Good to go, so anyway, because I'm a bit loose

(48:31):
with that, we'll ask the Huddle their opinion. By the way.
On the speaking of which, on the sandwiches, remember the
food town sandwiches wolworth sandwiches. At around two o'clock in
the afternoon, Apparently they get discounted by Woolworth's to three dollars,
which is when you need to go and buy them,
save them for the next day and have them for lunch.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
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Speaker 22 (49:09):
Right.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Spar City has gone to the Capital Rays as we
expected they would with us after six o'clock. Huddle is
standing by Heather. The same thing happened to my dog.
He got attacked October twenty twenty four this last year
March this year, attacking dog got given back to the
owner with conditions. Three weeks ago, attacked my dog again.
Now the owner has hidden his dog. Come on Auckland Council. Wait,

(49:30):
I don't know if that's Auckland Council. Might be a
different council atogether. Just go a bit harder on today
twenty five away from six. Now the Finance Minister spending
is coming under further pressure, this time from within cabinet.
David Seymour has now called out National and Nichola Willis
for not cutting more public servants.

Speaker 24 (49:45):
I believe that there's still too many people and we're
not necessarily delivering better services than in twenty seventeen.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
And also for not cutting enough spending.

Speaker 24 (49:54):
All together, this government is not saving money as aggressively
as the ACT Party would.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
So let's have a chat to him. David, Hello, hey,
so is it National that's not allowing you to cut
the public servants you want to cut?

Speaker 10 (50:07):
Well?

Speaker 8 (50:08):
I never point fingers at people. I mean we're part
of a government, we work together. But I think anyone
who is familiar with the angle that the different parties
took in the Act Party left a receipt which was
our alternative budget where we said that we wanted to
reduce the number of public servants back to pre labor levels,

(50:30):
and we also said that we wanted to reduce spending
by about eight or nine billion each year. The government
hasn't done that. I think we can point to quite
a few areas where act ministers and myself have helped
the taxpayers save some money, so we can say the
government's gone further than it might have without acts, but

(50:51):
not as far as we would.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
Okay, So if you guys are the ones wanting to
cut that many and it's not happening, we'll blame New
Zealand first and national. What are the reasons that they
giving you for not cutting those public servants?

Speaker 8 (51:03):
Well, first of all, I don't think it's as simple
as three parties sitting down. It is a whole process
of different ministers saying I need to do this, and
therefore I don't want to cut that, or I need
extra money to do this. So it's kind of a
big washing machine that all comes together. But the overall
vibe of it is that we're doing the amounts of
spending reduction that we are. I'm still happy to be

(51:26):
there for this very simple reason that I know the
other guys would be much much worse. But it's definitely
true that you know, acts General pushes for less spending
than perhaps others would have you see.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
David, I mean, look, I have sympathy for the fact
that obviously, when you guys are in the room, you
guys know what's going on there. But I'm not going
to let you get away with this as a voter,
right because I'm disappointed when I look at the government
and I see that you guys haven't cut the promised
number of public servants. I'm going to blame New Zealand
First National and you aren't.

Speaker 8 (51:56):
I yeah, I can understand. I can understand that. I
think if I was a voter, I'd be saying, Okay,
how do I keep this government? Because my number one
priority is you know, the Honorable Colie Swarbrick Minister. Anything
sounds but.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
Why do I want to keep this government? David? I
mean at the moment it feels but it feels like
you guys are assuming that we want to keep this government.
Thisment government is now profoundly disappointing. I mean, it's as
good as a red government, isn't it.

Speaker 8 (52:22):
Well, First of all, I think we can say that
there are quite a number of things that we have
done better. Second of all, if you are concerned about
what sort of government you have instead of them, and
you're someone who says, look, I think that I want
to see less spending, I want to see fewer public servants,
I want to see faster reductions, then you know, I

(52:44):
think it's pretty easy to see that without revealing the
confidence of any discussions, which I won't. Do you know
who went in there saying we need to cut a
lot more and a lot faster, and that was us.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Do you know what? There is a credible path if
you think about this, credible path to victory for labor
if they roll chippy giving themselves the option to go
with New Zealand first. And I just wonder if you
guys are overestimating or underestimating the public's appetite for a
change to that that might not be that bad when
we get to next year and we're as disappointed in
you guys as we are.

Speaker 8 (53:16):
Well, I think people can make that argument if they want,
But I also just say to you this, there's never
been a government that has done as much as fast
to reform from the right, certainly not in two generations.
You think about three warders, the Maori Health Authority replacing
the RMA, doing services based on need not race, you know,

(53:36):
passing a regulatory standards bill that fundamentally renegotiates the relationship
between the state and regulating your property. That's why it's
been controversial on the left. Then you go through the
labor law changes. I mean it really does add up.
It's pretty significant, and I think sometimes when you're on
a long walk, it pays to just stop, look back,

(53:57):
and sometimes you're surprised at how far you've come. That
is what would be getting put at risk. And I
think speaking is act. We can claim to have done
our bit and probably a bit more in making it happen.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Look, if I know anything, it would be that you're
probably as frustrated as any of us at the spending
that's going on. Do you think that you have any
chance in the next eighteen months we're actually about a
year now of getting the rest of the government to
tighten the belt.

Speaker 8 (54:26):
Well, I do, and again I don't want to deny that.
You know, we actually made some progress. And when you
look at school lunches, have the cost of that pay
equity saved twelve billion or over four years or three
billion dollars a year. My different savings exercises as each
budget five hundred million a year ongoing or saved last
year saved one hundred and fifteen million ongoing at the

(54:50):
budget that we've just had. So you know, it's not
that it's all small and we're not doing anything. We're
doing stuff, probably just not quite as much as some
of us would like him.

Speaker 3 (55:01):
David, Thanks very much. David Seamore, Deputy Prime Minister also
Act Party Leader. Nineteen away from six.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
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Speaker 3 (55:10):
For you on the Huddle with me this evening. Ali
Jones have read pr and David Faraki we blogging Curiopolster.
How are you two?

Speaker 10 (55:17):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (55:17):
Good a Ali. David Seamore mounted a pretty good argument
there didn't they no a.

Speaker 25 (55:22):
Predictable speaking in sound bike things I could put on
a T shirt or a bumper sticker. You know, I'm
sick of hearing him say things like, oh, you know,
we're not saving this money, we're not necessarily delivering things better.
What the hell does that mean? He has to start
giving real examples and some of the things he did
actually say as an example for you, know he mentioned

(55:45):
pay equity. We saved so many billions here, So it's
what mister Seymour's got to remember is for many of us,
and I wouldn't say that I'm one way or the
other politically, for many of us, it is not about
the multiple billions that you save, mister Seymour. It's actually
what it does to people, what it does to communities,

(56:07):
and it doesn't always have to have a dollar figure
on it. They are not thinking of the outcomes, they
are not thinking about the consequences. They are just scorching,
slashing and burning and saying this is what we've saved.
And I, for one, I'm sick of it.

Speaker 3 (56:22):
Well, I would like to see more savings, David. I
don't think there's enough at all. And I just wonder
how long he can carry on blaming national in n
Keoler without himself being blamed for failing to deliver.

Speaker 22 (56:32):
Yeah, what was what only said? I don't if only
their head beats slashing and burning. I think you've had
some mild truoning.

Speaker 25 (56:41):
Oh, they're getting rid of those pay equity claims. Getting
rid of those pay equity claims was a slash and
burn that was getting rid of years of good faith
bargaining in order to get money to put into the budget.
I'll be quite now because I know you've got to
have you saved, but that is definitely a slash and burn.

Speaker 22 (56:59):
What they said about outcomes is we have to remember
the last government increased spending by fifty percent and almost
every social indicator got worse, education, how do you name it?
But I'm on David's side that they should cut more,
and there's probably a lost opportunity because look, when you
come into government, cutting spend will always create linsens and

(57:21):
if you do too much about it, like Kirstarmagan in
the UK, you've become deeply, deeply unpopular. So what they
hope they'd be able to do is cut the low
hanging fruit. That won't cause too much for lescal pain
and the economy would grow enough to get back into surplus.
That's looking a tough call now because basically the e
comedy is not quite great enough. So in the hindsight

(57:43):
of course, high that's unful. There should have been probably
bigger cats than that first twelve months when you've got
that sort of mandate almost from the public to say, lot,
we voted you guys hindsight's a wonderful things.

Speaker 3 (57:56):
Yeah, it totally is. Ellie, are you going to tell
everybody how much you get? Well, not everybody, but are
you going to tell your colleagues how much you earn?

Speaker 18 (58:02):
Now?

Speaker 25 (58:03):
No, but you know I can if I want to,
you know, And I think that's what this is about,
and it's probably not so much about me telling other
people or other people telling me. I think what this
has done is actually given some visibility to the issue,
so we know that the problem they're trying to fix
here is pay parity. You know, how do we know
what's going on if we can't actually see what people

(58:24):
are being paid and what they're earning, or that they
have the right to say what they're being paid or
what they're earning. I also think there's another part of
this too. I know people who are on minimum wage,
not living wage. These are mature people and businesses that
are doing really well. These are mature people with a
lot of intelligence and qualifications and education, but they're on
not even a living wage. Now, if I think if

(58:45):
people knew which businesses were doing this, if there was
some visibility of that, people would choose where to be
a customer and I think that's another thing that might
come out with this as well.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
Do you like this, David, I'm quite a fan of
this little law.

Speaker 22 (59:00):
I don't think it should be illegal for people to
be able to talk to each other about what they're
paid are and something you have put an employ it contract.
I think you'll still find a lot of people won't
want to talk about because it can lead to uncomfortable conversations.
Or they're paid four thousand more I've been here longer.

(59:21):
Does that mean they don't value me or it's secret.
I think a lot of people not want to talk
about what they're paid. But if you want to be
able to go up to your mate and say, like
hanging up for the pay round and I'm not sure
that they're paying me enough, go for it. You should
be able to see what the others are paid and

(59:41):
that helps you make your case.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Why not, Hey, guys, take a break. We'll come back
shortly fourteen away from six.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
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Speaker 3 (59:52):
Back on the Huddle David Farrer and Allie Jones. David,
do you agree with the Police Commissioner that we are
being far too gloomy about New Zealand and actually we
should be very grateful to be in such a great place.

Speaker 22 (01:00:02):
I do, partly because I've just been looking at being
the Queen Charlotte Track in the last couple of days,
and as I look at these focos of the most
amazing sceneor you watch people around the world would die for,
that does remind me. Yes, we have economic challenges, but
there's not New Zealand's is the place to be.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Yeah, that totally is what do you reckon, Ellie?

Speaker 25 (01:00:24):
Yeah, And look, but I'm not gonna apologize for it.

Speaker 7 (01:00:27):
I thn't.

Speaker 25 (01:00:27):
We're very privileged, right, David. I mean there are people
who just can't. I meet a woman the other day.

Speaker 5 (01:00:32):
Who's had to tell her five year old.

Speaker 25 (01:00:34):
Grandson that they don't bake anymore just because they're too busy.
The reason she can't bake anymore if she can't afford
to buy butter. And I know that that's not a
major either. She's firt, she's well, she's able to put
food on the table. But the scener on the Queen
Charlotte Track is great, and yes, we do live in
a wonderful country. But we can't expect everyone to give
credit with credits due when they are dealing with really

(01:00:56):
serious day to day issues like the cost of living.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Yeah, I mean, we don't want to be pollyannaish about it,
do we. I Mean, there are some difficult things that
are going on right now Ali for people, and it's
really hard to make ends meet. But this will get better,
whereas a place like Europe has probably got years, if
not decades of trouble ahead of them.

Speaker 18 (01:01:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:01:14):
Look, no, you're right here there, and that whole thing
about gratitude, we really do have to practice that a
little bit more.

Speaker 7 (01:01:20):
You know.

Speaker 25 (01:01:20):
I do think we've been a bit of a country
of tall poppies and looking at the glass half empty.
You know, you do hear of headlines like New Zealand
missed the Gold, when in fact the headlines should be
New Zealand winds silver. So you know, I think there
are ways that we can be approaching things that are
a bit more positive than we currently have.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Perhaps.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
So now, David, what do you make of this business
with the leftovers and having to basically sign a waiver
before you can take your leftovers away?

Speaker 22 (01:01:42):
Look, you're just crazy. I mean, what does sign the waiver.
Do anyway, if you actually have poisoned the food, that's
not going to preteat you. But if you haven't poisoned it,
you're fine. I mean, has anyone ever actually gotten into
trouble by allowing their customers to take food home and
a doggy bag with our way?

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
No ridiculous, right, No, it does seem over the top.
What do you think, elly?

Speaker 25 (01:02:08):
No, I totally disagree, And yes, people have got into
trouble with this before. So what my husband's and ext
chef and I know from others who have worked in
the sector that you've got people who take food home
and they are so you know, social media is so
accessible these days and the reach is so huge that
you post a Google review on the food that you've

(01:02:30):
got causing you food poisoning and it must have been
from the place you've got it, and that business can
go under And I'm not overstating that. So you know,
it's not much to ask for people to just I
wouldn't mind signing something saying that you know, the food
was great when I left if it means I can
take my food home, But how do you know the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
Farm was good? Because it might take you an oyster
can take you two or three days to sort of
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
Yeah, well the.

Speaker 25 (01:02:53):
Social media, yeah yes, But if someone has eaten it
on site and they get sick at the restaurant on site,
this is a I think your story.

Speaker 5 (01:03:02):
Said Heather, that peep. They keep records of who signs.

Speaker 25 (01:03:04):
The forms and who doesn't. Yeah, but I think the
risk is too great, and I have seen it happen
where people have said the food made me sick, when
in fact it was a person taking it home.

Speaker 18 (01:03:13):
Look, either you.

Speaker 25 (01:03:14):
Sign the waiver or you don't allow people to take
food on that's a choice.

Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
It's got to be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
I think I love taking food home. Do you take
food home? David? Yeah? Why well, why is your appetite
so small at the minute?

Speaker 22 (01:03:26):
It's called children. They don't always finish their metal.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
It's too right. Actually I've forgotten about them. Yeah, I've
got one of those two. Actually, guys, thanks very much,
appreciate it, David Farret Alie Jones a hud of this
evening eight away from six.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Heather ffs the suggestion of labor even with New Zealand
First back and government is frankly terrifying. You know, I know,
I know. Look, it's not going to happen. It's not
going to happen. But I want you to just I
just want you just have to know the the possibilities.
Right what's going on at the moment is that we're
looking at what we're looking at the coalition government being National,
New Zealand First and Act, and we're going it's not

(01:04:08):
going to change at the next election because no one's
going to vote for the other side. The other side's
a bunch of loonies. It's Labor and the Greens and
the Maori Party. No one's going to vote for that.
And I agree with you, no one is going to
vote for that. That's mental. That's not going to happen.
But what you have to also bear in mind is
that there is always the smallest, tiniest, tiniest, tiny, tiny,
tiny possibility. But it is a pathway to victory for
Labor if they roll Chippy, because if they roll Chippy,

(01:04:32):
then New Zealand First and Winston can go with them,
because remember he's only said he rules out Chippy. He's
never see he rules out Labor. So if they roll Chippy,
then New Zealand first can go with them and choose
them again. And I know that's a big call for Winston,
but Winston does make some some sizeable mental calls, doesn't he.
I mean, remember when he picked Jasinda Ardoun, who came
in under Bill English. That was a mental call and
he still made it. So don't don't don't write off

(01:04:53):
the possibility for Winston to make some pretty mental calls anyway.
I don't think it's going to happen. I think we're
going to come out of this wind. We're going to
feel a lot better. The economy is going to start
improving just a little bit. We'll feel better about it
next year. We won't be this angry with the coalition
government and so we'll vote for them back again, I think.
But there's just the tiniest little chance. It's just a
little credible pathway to victory. Just going to take some

(01:05:15):
courage from the Labour Party to get rid of Chippy.
By the looks of things, four away from six now,
the gas supply is unfortunately falling faster than we previously thought,
which itself was faster than we previously thought, so it
should be. I keep telling you if you've got gas,
you need to get off gas. This is another warning
for me, you need to get off gas. The supply
of gas is down two hundred percent compared to two

(01:05:38):
years ago twenty twenty three. The natural gas reserves at
the first of January this year, we're twenty seven percent
down on just the year before. We thought the gas
production would go up from this year because development projects
were expected to mature. But that's not going to happen
at all now. So now we don't expect the production
is going to go up now. We just accept production
is going to keep on going down and consumption is
going down as well as a result of that. So

(01:05:59):
total gas use in the economy dropped twenty two percent
year on year. That is mainly because because methan X
shut its plants for a bit and then sold the
gas to retailers so that we could have gas in
our own houses. Anyway, don't feel depressed about it, because
I think. But but if you name it, you tame it.
This is this is basically how I'm I'm I've got
I'm doing what's what the psychologists called radical acceptance, which

(01:06:21):
is you go I can't fight it, just accept it.
You know, when the husband doesn't like no matter how
many times you tell him to clean the coffee machine
and wipe it down with the sponge and he doesn't
do it, you stopped fighting it, just radically accept it.
So just radically accept that the gas is running out
and you just basically need to get something else. You
are welcome.

Speaker 26 (01:06:38):
Laura's getting paid more than us.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
We have, Laura's getting paid.

Speaker 26 (01:06:41):
We can do it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
It's just really good Markia against the maname. We just
have to radically accept it. Sky said He with us
next on the Capital Race Newstalk, sa'd be.

Speaker 23 (01:06:50):
Oh with my.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Evening coming up for the next hour. We spend a
lot of time talking about US tech companies, but what
about a great Chinese tech company. We'll have a chat
to Sam Dicky about that shortly. Zesprie is having a
great time Jamie McKay on that, and Enda Brady will
do the UK for us at seven past six. Now
Sky City is after all going to go ahead with
that capital raise. It's looking to raise two hundred and
forty million dollars, announced today that they have a forty

(01:07:28):
two percent drop in profit for the year, down to
seventy one point five million dollars now. Jason Woolbridge is
Sky Cities Chief Executive High Jason, Hi, Heather, are you
worried about Alan Gray's opposition to your capital raise.

Speaker 6 (01:07:40):
We've certainly taken into account of all of our major investors' feedback.
We believe that we're acting in the best interests of
the company and you know, we were pleased to be
able to announce our FY twenty five results today along
with the equity rays of two hundred and forty million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
The point that Alan Gray's is that you guys should
be selling as many assets as you can first. Is
that a fair point?

Speaker 6 (01:08:05):
We agree we need to monetize some assets. You know,
we're a fantastic quality business. We're a key part of
New Zealand and South Australian economy and the equity rays
and selling some assets is about paying down debt and
resetting our balance sheet for the future.

Speaker 3 (01:08:20):
Yeah. Do you not have enough assets though? To avoid
the capital rays?

Speaker 6 (01:08:24):
It's all about timing We've been working hard on monetizing
the car parks and the commercial building. These things, unfortunately
take time in a tough New Zealand economy.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
Okay, how is it going with the sales that you
already have underwe or that you're planning to do.

Speaker 6 (01:08:40):
Yeah, we've been underway with the car park for about
six months now. It's going to take us another six
to twelve months, and the commercial buildings will just take
us a little bit longer.

Speaker 10 (01:08:50):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
It's a rubbish time to be trying to sell that
kind of stuff, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (01:08:54):
It's not the best time. It's a tough New Zealand
economy for all New Zealanders as well as companies like
us trying to sell O set.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
Hey, are you seeing a difference in how you guys
are doing over in Australia versus how are you doing here?

Speaker 6 (01:09:06):
It's certainly different economies. The South Australian economy is very
strong versus here in New Zealand. We have seen less
spend per visit, but across both jurisdictions, visitations remained really
strong and we're thrilled about that.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
Why is it so much stronger in South Australia? Do
you think.

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
I think it's just a different economy. They've rebounded back
post COVID with tourism a lot stronger. They're focused on
bringing big events to South Australia. You know, all the
things that New Zealand knows how to do, and we're
getting back to doing those things. It's just taking us
a little while.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
Do you support the calls that are increasingly coming out
of Auckland for some sort of assistance for Auckland.

Speaker 6 (01:09:48):
For the city overall? I'm not really sure about that.
You know, we're focused on what we can control of SkyCity.
We're excited about the Convention Center opening in February. We're
going to bring down up to five hundred thousand delicate
days worth of activity into the city and that fills
up hotels and restaurants and bars. So you know, that's

(01:10:11):
where we're our focus is at the moment. What of
the things we can control?

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Yeah, what about the bed levy? Would you support that?

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
We're certainly supportive of something of that nature. We would
like to see more major events coming back to New
Zealand and we need to be able to fund the
activity that's required to bring those events down here.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
Because is it just me or is it actually? Is
there like a bit of a dearth of good things
on our calendar in Auckland.

Speaker 13 (01:10:41):
There is.

Speaker 6 (01:10:41):
We're in a little bit of a drought at the moment.
You know, we would love to see some more things.
And that's why we're excited about the convention Center. You know,
we're going to open in February. We've got thirty odd
events in the first four or five months.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
I mean, look, Jason, you might be excited about the
convention Center. I'm not excited about the convention Center. It's
not going to give me a concert I can go to,
is it we do?

Speaker 6 (01:11:00):
We haven't announced the launch events yet. Hither there may
be something in there that you look forward to.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
No, perhaps so, But I mean, listen, tell me, you
know you're an expert in this kind of thing. I'm
looking at the calendar. I'm thinking, Jesus a bit dry
out there at the minute. How much more should we
actually have on the calendar than we do?

Speaker 6 (01:11:18):
Look, particularly through the winter period, it'd be lovely to
see more events, you know, one or two events every month.
Just think back to October last year when we had
Coldplay in town. Yeah, what a big difference that made
to the city. That's the sort of stuff that we
really want to see in Auckland happening far more often.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
So, if you could put your finger on the thing
that's causing us to not have those things on the calendar,
what is it.

Speaker 10 (01:11:40):
Right now?

Speaker 6 (01:11:40):
At the moment, it's funding. You know, these events work
on a two, three four year horizon. We've got to
be booking these events now for twenty seven, twenty eight,
and twenty nine. Our sales team for the convention Center
are selling on a three to five year horizon. We've
already got events in the calendar for twenty seven and

(01:12:01):
twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (01:12:01):
Have we got events for Auckland? Have we booked things
for two three years out?

Speaker 6 (01:12:06):
Yeah, I'm not sure of specific events that we've got.
You'd need to talk to the team at Heart of
Auckland and Tataki Unlimited.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
Yeah, fair point. Now, you spoke about the convention Center,
which obviously is fantastic for you guys, and you're getting
the keys in February. How much is that going to
turn around the fortunes of your business? Do you reckon?

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
It's a game changer for us as we ramp that
property to full capacity. We're hoping to see five hundred
thousand odd visited days with of activity there. You know,
it's people are our hotels, restaurants into our casino, and
it's not only good for SkyCity, it's good for every
hotel operator, every restaurant operator in the city of Auckland.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
And this business with Fletcher in the court case, how
long is that going to take? Do you think?

Speaker 6 (01:12:49):
Yeah, I'm not sure. You know, it's never a decision
that any company wants to make, but we just felt
it was the best interest of our shareholders. The building
six and a half years late. You know, it's at
some point we need to sit down and settle up.
What's happened there.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Yeah, Hey, Jason's good to talk to you and thank
you for your time. Jason Woolbridge, chief executive of sky City.
Another business doing really well, Scaler up doing so brilliantly
that they actually when they put theirs gave the results
release their results to the Stock Exchange, they had so
many mentions of the word record that apparently they had
to take some out otherwise they would just be overdoing it.

(01:13:23):
They had record profit, record, earnings, record revenue, record results,
et cetera, et cetera fifty four point five million dollar
profit after tax. That's the report of their ninth successive
year of earnings growth. And obviously the story here is
that the agricultural exporters are doing so well and so
they want more gum boots and they want more car
feeding teats and stuff like that, and so scaler Up is,

(01:13:44):
you know, the beneficiary of all of that. Also, scalour
Up have played this beautifully. Apparently they've been an early
They were an early mover on the US tariffs, so
they paid a lot of money to shift a lot
of products stateside to keep it there so it wouldn't
be pinged by the tariffs. And they've still got stuff
there in case the tariffs, you know, well not in
case tariffs, because the tariffs six fourteen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
Oh here's a little bit more positive positivity for you, Heather.
I've come back to New Zealand after forty years in
Australia and living in Queenstown. Now Sydney and Melbourne are
an expensive, crime ridden, devisive mess. I don't understand why
New Zealand media talk those places up. It's very different
living there than being a tourist. New Zealand is such
a great place. Thank you. Seventeen past six.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
The Rural Report on Heather dupersy Allan.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
Drive Hi, host of the Countries with Us, Hello, Jamie
good A Heather so Fonterras raised the farm baker if
armgate and milk price forecast are they?

Speaker 15 (01:14:43):
Yeah, well it's the forecast for the season just finished,
So this morning a couple of good news stories from
Fonterra and Zespri in the past couple of days. Sorry
for the background noise. I'm parked at Auckland Airport trying
to find a quiet spot, which isn't that easy at
the moment. So yeah, for the season just finished twenty
four to twenty five, they've moved that mid point to

(01:15:04):
ten dollars fifteen. The range is now ten dollars ten
to ten dollars twenty so that's locked and loaded.

Speaker 10 (01:15:10):
That is baked.

Speaker 15 (01:15:11):
And perhaps of more interest was the number for the
twenty five twenty six season, which we've just entered into.
They've narrowed that range because remember they had a huge
range from eight dollars to eleven dollars and the midpoint
that wasn't in the middle because mid the midpoint was
ten dollars. Now they've narrowed that band down to nine
to eleven dollars. The midpoint is smaking the middle at ten.

(01:15:32):
They're still forecasting ten.

Speaker 10 (01:15:34):
That's a great result.

Speaker 15 (01:15:35):
Are the forecast earnings of sixty five to seventy five
cents per share remain unchanged and that is the money
in which the Fonterra Farmer shareholders get their dividend, and
I'm reckoning it could be anything as high as fifty
cents per share, Heather, which makes it a pretty good yelder.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Yeah, brilliant. They deserve it. What about Zesbriy. That's looking great,
isn't it.

Speaker 10 (01:15:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:15:57):
Yeah, I'm going to be broadcasting from tower tomorrow, Heather,
so I'll be catching up with Jason to break the
CEO for Zesprie. They've come out with the strong full
first forecast get it right for the twenty five to
twenty sixth season. Everything is looking at record returns with
the exception of some golden organic green and they're within

(01:16:19):
the forecast range. So the Kiwi fruit industry is on
a real high now. Their next job is to fulfill
their next ten year plan, because their previous ten year plan, Heather,
was to target four point five billion in sales by
twenty twenty five. They've done that, and if I just
scroll down my page here, excuse me what for the delay?

(01:16:42):
Their next ambition or their next ten year plan will
be focused on being the world's world's healthiest fruit brand,
and I see no reason why they can't do that.
Heather keiwifruit is a superfood.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
Thank you, Jamie, as always appreciated, and good luck with
you flight this Jamie McKay, host to the Country six twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Head to see Elis.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
So yesterday I was telling you that there's this game
Beat the Bish, and you're supposed to beat Bishop up,
as in Chris Bishop up. Chris Bishop must have heard
it because Chris well Or just googled himself because he's
found the game, and he's played the game quite badly.

Speaker 9 (01:17:20):
Where's fine playing Environmentalis Celeclis, Dan Walker, Omona Yours and flats.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
He quite enjoyed it. Like me, He went for the
Gordon Wilson Flats because I think both of us just
have a love hate relationship with that hideous building. He
lasted just a minute. I was slightly more than a minute.
And then after that he got bushed.

Speaker 2 (01:17:44):
Oh no, oh no, I got that.

Speaker 18 (01:17:51):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
I'll tell you what it was, because they sent us
the video of it. They were like, looky here, it
is what you were talking about. And it was RESTful.
It was you know when you watch your child do something,
you're like, I'm gonna fall off there. Yep, no they did,
you know, but it was like that kind of level
of stress. But it just went on for more than
a minute because what Chris Bishop did was he let

(01:18:12):
all the little heads get He waited very long time
before he hit the little heads coming out. They would
cross about two thirds of the screen and they'd be
right at him and then he'd only knock them out.
So he played it very poorly, very stressful thing to watch.
But at least, you know, for the people who set
this up, called Live Wellington whatever they called, at least
they can now know that, in fact, Chris Bishop knows

(01:18:35):
that the game exists and if that was part of
the point he got it. He knows about the over
each six twenty one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Everything from SMEs to the big corporates.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
The Business Hour with Heather dufic Ellen and maz for
trusted Home Insurance solutions.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
News talks'd be either imagine the outcry if someone had
made a game that was bashing just inta. I know,
I know we have covered this off, but I feel
like that's a point that you could You can never
you cannot make that point enough just to underscore the
fact that women need to harden up in politics. So
with it here, the why is it that the Maori
Party hopefuls have all started to wear red berets like
Julius Malema. Well, okay, so I haven't seen it. I

(01:19:12):
did see that. What's the face or any kaipitter who's
running in the by election is wearing a red beret
at the moment. I haven't seen if any of the
others wearing a red beret. But remember Tarriana Toria used
to wear a beret. It was black and she had
the little ten tongue little emblem on the front of it.
But berets are a bit like it's a Marxist thing,
isn't it? Because Julius Malema, who's mental in South Africa,

(01:19:36):
him and his lot wear it, and then Shay Guevara
wore it and ants pointed out just before the Black
Panther movement wore it. So it is generally if you
see a politician wearing a bearre, it's because they want
you to know that they're a Marxist and then you
can do with that, which you will, in my case
run a mile. I do not vote for type thing anyway.
Speaking of speaking of hats in parliament, Andy Foster has

(01:19:58):
been wearing a gigantic hat in Parliament. It's a handsome hat.
It's fetching. It's like a would you describe it as
a fedora? I don't really know. I'm not down on
my hat, my hat cataloging, you know, categories, but it's
quite a handsome sort of hat. He's obviously paid a
fair amount of money for it. I'm told that New

(01:20:18):
Zealand First is getting a lot of grief for Andy
wearing the hat in Parliament because New Zealand First has
taken quite a strong stance on everybody else's standard slipping.
Andy's wearing the hat because he's had so he's had
surgery to his head and before he was wearing the
hat there was a gigantic white plaster and I think
we can all agree the hat is an improvement, So
don't give New Zealand first grief. There's a good reason
for it. Six twenty six, Where go, Here's your Soldier's Moves.

(01:20:44):
If you haven't heard of the K pop demon Hunters yet,
count yourself lucky. And you obviously don't have children either.
It's the new Netflix animated sensation Boring a Hole in
our kid's eyeballs. The movie has already been watched over
two hundred and ten million times on Netflix. It's now
coming to the theaters for a very limited run. Hoyt
Cinema is hosting a two night showing with little sing

(01:21:04):
along subtitles along the bottom so all the kids can
scream the words to their hearts content. The song Golden
from the soundtrack that was that A That's it? I
hate it with a passion. The song Golden from the
soundtrack went to number one on the Billboard Charts. It
was the first girl group to do so since Destiny's Child.
And they're not even real the AI. The real voice
behind the group's music is a songwriter called EJ. She's

(01:21:27):
over the moon with how it's caught.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
On hitting number one.

Speaker 6 (01:21:31):
It's absolutely crazy.

Speaker 7 (01:21:34):
I cried all day.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
She doesn't even sound like she sounds in Golden She's
got a nice voice in real life and Golden ants.
Can you play us the bit where she sounds shrill?

Speaker 10 (01:21:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:49):
Do you see why I hated it? Anyway? If you
want to be locked in a dark room full of
screaming kids this weekend, check out pop demon Hunters sing
along in your local Voets theater. Oh, Sam Dickey with US.

Speaker 27 (01:22:04):
I just I just had a look as well ahead
of That song is still number one here as well
on the New Zealand Music charts.

Speaker 26 (01:22:09):
And it's been there for quite a while. Oh lord,
everyone's into it?

Speaker 13 (01:22:14):
Yeah me?

Speaker 3 (01:22:16):
Can you just get how high like she's heading? Some
high notes that hurt my brain? Anyway, Sam Dickie's of
US Next News TOKSB.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
You know, if it's to do with money, it matters
to you. Your Business Hour with Hender Duper, c Allen
and Maz for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions News talkb.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Ghither this is a dumb question, but do you think
the upcoming local body elections would give any indication on
what may happen at the general election? Not a question
at all. Actually, we've just been debating that. Funnily enough,
so I will answer.

Speaker 17 (01:23:04):
That for you.

Speaker 3 (01:23:04):
Well, to the best of our ability, we will answer
that for you. And just to Tick and Brady is
with us out of the UK shortly. It's twenty four
away from seven. While everyone's obsessing over the US tech giants,
the best performing large tech company globally over the last
year is actually ten Cent, which is a Chinese company
a lot of people have never heard of. To talk
us through this, we have Sam Dickey from Fisher Funds

(01:23:25):
with us. Hey, Sam, Hey, Now ten Cent of the
guys who do the games, don't.

Speaker 14 (01:23:29):
They that's right gaming that Their primary business though, is
via their WeChat app, so it's the so called super app.
So they've got sort of one point four billion users,
so a quarter of all Internet uses globally use the
app every day and you can do everything from paybills,
to invest a shop, to hail cabs, to book doctor's appointments,
and to play games. They're very big in global gaming,

(01:23:50):
so it's super sticky. So it's got this kind of
massive captive audience that use it for hours every day,
and it can drive revenue via payments, shopping, advertising.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
It And should investors care about it?

Speaker 18 (01:24:03):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
Absolutely?

Speaker 14 (01:24:04):
I mean, it's a trillion dollar behemoth that many haven't
heard of, and it's it's a as I said, it's
app is very very sticky. But it's been quite a saga,
I've got to say, because for years you could avoid
the low quality state owned enterprises like the bloated banks
and steel companies in China and just invest in fabulous
private companies like ten Cent to Ali Barber. But then

(01:24:25):
you might remember Jack Ma, the charismatic farm founder of
Ali Baba, reportedly got too big for his boots. He
criticized Chinese financial regulators publicly, and that kick started a
rolling series of crackdowns on private companies and tycoons.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
Has China carried on with that attitude of the crackdowns
or have they learned from it?

Speaker 16 (01:24:44):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:24:44):
Well, so that that did kickstarter sort of a three
year seventy five percent under performance by Chinese tech stocks
versus US tech stocks, but that has started to thaw
so sort of late twenty three and then into twenty four,
Beijing started to roll out new measures to support tech
and EV and then the major turning point was in
February of this year and President She hosted a high

(01:25:07):
profile tech symposium and who should be on stage with
him but Jack ma which is very symbolic and a
clear sign that the crackdown was completely over. And China
tech is the best performing tech sector globally by far
over the past twelve months. And like you said here,
the ten cents up sort of sixty percent, much more
than a video and even meta.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
So where does this put us in terms of if
we look at the US tech companies versus the Chinese
tech companies, who's winning this one?

Speaker 14 (01:25:33):
Yeah, that the US China tech arms race. It really
is at fever pitch at the moment. So first of all,
take a step back before the President She's symposium and
sort of lovin with Jack Maer. Remember we had that
the deep seek moment that you and I talked about
in January when a Chinese AI company showed the world
it could allegedly build AI models at a fraction of
the cost of the US players, and that drove kind

(01:25:54):
of a ton of enthusiasm around China made AI chips,
China made AI equipment, China made AI models, and let's
not forget China now leads the US now and things
like drones, electric vehicle manufacturing efficiency and autonomous vehicle software.
So there's three companies in China now that have cracked
the critical level for full self driving riddle. So the

(01:26:16):
other thing that's really important is China is miles ahead
on the critical bottleneck of power generation required to power
this sort of AI tech arms race. So take a
step back ten or fifteen years and both China and
the US had about the same power generation capacity of
about a thousand gigawatts. Today China has three times as
much power capacity as the US. But the US isn't

(01:26:39):
a frenzy too. I'm not sure if you saw recently,
but Trump is on record gushing about Jensenhang, the Vidio CEO, saying,
now these learned the facts of life about Jensen.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
He is untouchable, and he's tried.

Speaker 14 (01:26:50):
To rename artificial intelligence because he doesn't like anything artificial.
He's tried to rename it genius intelligence. So it's all
going just a little bit frenzied.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
So what does this mean for investors?

Speaker 14 (01:27:03):
It is a reminder that the fabdist companies all around
the world, often the ones you haven't heard about. It's
also reminded that when you do invest in China, and
you and I have talked about China a lot. It's
not always a stock market that's driven by fundamentals. It
is massively policy driven. So you really do have to
read the tea leaves and that's why those sort of
symbolic things like she getting mar up on stage is
really critical to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:27:24):
Yeah, very interesting, Thank you so much. Sam has always
appreciate your expertise at Sam de Kia Fisher Funds. That's
twenty away from seven, Heather, do see out there. So
will the local body elections at the end of the
seal in a couple of months time be an indication
of what we should expect at the next election, Yes,
but also no, Yes, I think maybe maybe, okay, maybe

(01:27:45):
maybe at the mayoral level, right because but not at
the council level, because I don't think any of us
know what we're voting for. You'd have to be really
really clued in to be aware of what each of
the councilors stand for and what they're like, like, you know,
where they roughly line up in the political strum and
stuff like that. So I don't think counselors really count.
But it's pretty clear I think with mayors which way
they lean, whether they're right learning mayors or left leaning mares.

(01:28:07):
And I do think it gives us an indication of
how the country feels, because do you remember a last
election in twenty twenty two for the local bodies. Everybody
the whole country went right right except for Wellington which
went far left. Everybody else went right. And I think
that we all looked at that and went, jeez, that's
an indication of something, isn't it. It was because the
country had a guts full of what was going on
in politics, which is that everything had got really kind

(01:28:28):
of distracted. They got distracted at central government level, but
also local government level with all the race relations and
Maori wards and co governance and all that kind of
crap and spending. It got out of control. And what
I think the whole country wanted and then demonstrated in
those elections was it we just wanted for school discipline,
like everybody was having a tough time in cost of
living crisis. We just wanted our mayors to start looking

(01:28:51):
at the finances, stop wasting time on cultural wal crap,
and get on with it right. And so I think, yes,
it can be an indication like it was then and
then it bore fruit same thing happen, and with central
government we all swung, you know, coalition government got voted
and stuff. So it can be kind of a bit
of a test of where the country's sitting. But I
suspect things will change quite a lot between where we
are this year and where we are next year, because

(01:29:12):
this year we're all pretty grumpy, aren't we, because this
is like the economy sucks, doesn't it. But maybe next
year we'll be feeling a little bit better. So it
can change quite a lot in a year. So I
wouldn't I would. I would take it as a bit
of a test, but I wouldn't I wouldn't overdo it, Like,
don't go too hard on what you think is going
on there, because you never, as I said, you never
will know what's going to happen in the next year
or so. A neo Nazi in Germany as making a

(01:29:37):
mockery of Germany's transgender laws. I recommend I would encourage
you to google this person just to have a look
at what is going on here, because it is it's
a sight to behold. What's happened is Germany changed their
law to make it really simple for you to be
able to change your gender and your name on your
official documents. So if you decide that you identify born

(01:29:57):
a man, identify as a woman, pretty simple thing to do.
You don't have to jump through hoops approve anything. You
just basically they do it whatever and what it was
designed to do as well, meaning it was supposed to
support the transgender and intersex and non binary communities in Germany.
But what's happened is that the neo Nazis have latched
onto it and they have been using it because they
get sent to jail for being Neo Nazis members of

(01:30:20):
Dix and stuff like that. But they don't want to
go to the boy jails because they're worried they're gonna
get beaten up by the boys and the boy jails,
so they change They use this law to change their
names and change their their gender so they can get
sent to the girl jails because I think they can
have an easier run there. And so what's happened is
there's a chap called Gone Laura s fen Libick Fenlebick, Yeah,

(01:30:41):
I got it right, spen Libick, and he's changed his
name to Marlasfenya and he started dressing like a woman
and wearing you know, quite quite fetching lipstick and some
quite nice earrings. But he's also grown a mustache like
a like a like a chopper reed mustache, like an
I ride a mode bike with monkey bar handle things

(01:31:02):
must like quite an aggressive mustache. He's now going to
serve eighteen months jail. He's going to serve it in
a woman's jail because he is now Marla Spena with
quite a fetching hat, earrings, lipstick, eyeshadow, and a mustache. Anyway,
I think the mustache is supposed to indicate to you
that he's not really transgender, but he's just he's just

(01:31:24):
doing it to mess with you. Anyway, Go and have
a look at that. It's kind of interesting. Gavin inde
Brady's with US next sixteen away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:31:31):
Approaching the numbers and getting the results.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
It's hither to the Sea Ellen with the Business Hour
and MAS for Trusted Home Insurance Solutions.

Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
News talks that'd.

Speaker 3 (01:31:41):
Be Inte Brady UK correspondence with US.

Speaker 28 (01:31:44):
Hello Ender, Hey have our great speak to again.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
So Europe wants the US jets and Romania does it.

Speaker 28 (01:31:51):
Yeah, this is the latest idea about Ukrainian security and
also the people of Romania have recent history with what
was the Soviet Union invading They don't want to be reinvaded.

Speaker 10 (01:32:04):
Now.

Speaker 28 (01:32:04):
NATO, it turns out, is building its largest airbase in Romania.
And after all of these zoom calls and meetings of
the Coalition of the Willing this week, the latest idea
they're proposing for the Americans to get involved with is okay.
They're not categorically not going to put American troops on
the ground in Ukraine. However, would you like to send

(01:32:26):
over some very sophisticated jets that we could put at
this airbase we're building in Romania, and that would provide
security for the Ukrainians and also be very much welcomed
by the Romanians. JD Vance, however, has weighed in and said,
whatever happens, Europe will be paying for it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
So that's not a no.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
It's not a no.

Speaker 28 (01:32:48):
But it's interestingly we haven't heard from Trump yet on this,
but Vance, for someone who professes to love Europe and
was on holidays in England just last week, he certainly
never weighs in with anything positive to say about Europe
or its people, or its leaders, or its security. But
perhaps the Americans do have a point that everyone in

(01:33:09):
Europe needs to start stepping up in pain for the
continent's defense.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Yeah, well, that certainly seems to are running theme there,
doesn't it. Now you guys have had a little surge
in your inflation. What's caused it?

Speaker 28 (01:33:20):
Would you believe? It increases to airfares, chocolate, coffee and
other food items. So we've gone up to three point
eight percent in the UK. Now with inflation, it's worrying
because the Bank of England always sets a target of
two percent, and we're now pushing towards four. They reckon,
we'll hit four percent sometimes late September, and this is

(01:33:41):
going to have an impact on anyone with a mortgage
because the Bank of England had been cutting interest rates
and the feeling now is that if inflation hits four percent,
they won't be able to get away with another interest
rate cut before Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
So is the feeling that the interest rate surge is
not a short lived thing. This is actually sticky.

Speaker 28 (01:34:00):
I think it is sticky with inflation. It's not good.
But look when the whole Ukraine War happened and Russia's
illegal invasion, inflation went up to eleven percent so we
have got it under control. It's not as bad as
what it was three and a half years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Yeah, well that's good, Okay, what's going wrong with this dolphin?

Speaker 28 (01:34:20):
So Reggie the dolphin has popped up off the coast
of Dorset a place called Lime Bay, and on the
face of it, when you see the social media videos
and the pictures and the world we live in now,
everyone is going to Lime Bay to swim with a dolphin. However,
marine wildlife charities and experts have come out and said
that they are quite concerned about how close people are

(01:34:42):
getting to the dolphin, reminding them that you know, they
can grow to thirteen feet in length, they can weigh
five hundred kilos and they're a wild animal. They've also
noticed some scarring on the dolphin's body, which they believe
was called because years ago by a propeller from a boat.
And they're just saying that people don't get in the
water with the dolphin, don't swim with it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
I don't know.

Speaker 28 (01:35:02):
Part of me thinks they're being killed joys, and then
it's it's like basic comments.

Speaker 3 (01:35:07):
When have you ever heard of a dolphin hurting someone exactly?

Speaker 28 (01:35:11):
Their charities are saying that they believe the dolphin has
been targeting women in wet suits and deliberately smashing into them.
But yeah, look, I haven't seen any video evidence of this.
All I've seen is lots of playful pictures of dolphins.
I mean, we were out on a boat yesterday off
the west coast of Ireland and we saw dolphins off

(01:35:31):
in Boffin, one of the Irish islands off Galway, and everyone,
you know, just the joy a dolphin in the sea
brings to people amazing, amazing, just beautiful. And by the way,
we ran into a Keiwi earl yesterday in the bar
working in the pub on in Ish Boffin, a girl
from Rota Rua having her absolute best summer ever. She said,

(01:35:58):
I didn't catch her name, but she's traveling around. She
got an English boyfriend and they absolutely love traveling and
working on remote islands. They've done some time on the
Silly Islands, Silly islands off Cornwall and and if you
go on Google Maps, find in Ish buff and it's
it looks like it should be pronounced in this buffin
i ni s is the Irish word for island Inish
buffin bowl fion light cow, the Island of the light

(01:36:20):
colored Cow. And there you go go from Rotaro or
working up there.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
Oh well, shout out to her, Hey, thank you very
much and to look after yourself into Brady, UK Correspondent.
Eight Away from seven, It's.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
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Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Isn't it annoying?

Speaker 9 (01:36:39):
Sex?

Speaker 3 (01:36:40):
Away from seven? Isn't it annoying? Do you get that
when and I'm talking about just what Inda was saying,
When you go overseas and you say I'm from New
Zealand and people say to you, oh, I know John
Smith who lives in Rho and you go, oh, so
do I. Isn't it annoying when you when you confirm
the suspicion that they have that were a tiny country

(01:37:01):
and we all know each other because unfortunately, I don't
know if you if you've had that, but that that
has happened to be on a number of occasions where
somebody's like, oh do you know blah blahlah, and I'm like, hmm,
I actually do know that person. That's weird, isn't it
the or? And this is even weirder when you go
overseas and you bump into somebody that you know. We
went to Amsterdam years and years and years and years ago,

(01:37:21):
before the kids were born, and we been a long
time ago now ten years plus. Went to Amsterdam, sat
down on you know, you go on the canals and
the little boats and stuff. Sat down on a boat,
looked up and the husband goes, oh, the mum and
son there. They were chatting. The husband goes, oh, you've
got a kew accent. She's like, oh, yeahm from Wellington.
He's like, oh, I live in Wellington. She goes oh.

(01:37:42):
He's like, oh, what's school. I don't know how we
got into schools, which not a Wellington thing, but we
had the conversation. She was like, oh, I went to
blah blah blah school. He goes, oh, do you know
a shooner and she's like, oh, yeah, shown's my best friend.
He's like, shown is my best friend. Yes, that does
happen when you go overseas.

Speaker 26 (01:37:55):
So anyway, this is kind of a corollary that I
always don't like as well.

Speaker 10 (01:37:58):
Hither that.

Speaker 27 (01:37:59):
I remember a few years ago I was at a
music festival in Ohio and I'm like, okay, here. I
am a music festival out and the what pops in Ohio.
I am so far away from any Aussies.

Speaker 26 (01:38:08):
I do not have to worry what I want. Yeah,
there will be no Australians at all.

Speaker 27 (01:38:11):
And before I know it, the eye walks up to
me and he's like, oh, you're from New Zealand, mate, Ah,
do you play rugby made?

Speaker 26 (01:38:17):
I'd bet you're a prop he ha ha a big fellons.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
You're like, oh, I haven't that joke.

Speaker 26 (01:38:22):
I'm on the other side of the world, you know.
And the Australians there they.

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Are, Yeah, this is unfaul just because it's because we
travel a lot. This is the thing.

Speaker 18 (01:38:29):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:38:30):
By the way, whatever, however crap your day was, it
wasn't as crap as JD. Vance's day. He visited the
National Guard in Washington. The troops were happy to see him,
but not the people. You know why they are angry.
They're angry because JD and Trump put the troops on

(01:38:50):
the ground and to protect them, and they don't want
to be protected. And even when he's talking to the priest,
guess what you can hear in the background, so.

Speaker 29 (01:38:56):
You hear these guys outside, they appear to hate the
idea that Americans can enjoy their communities, and they do.
The fact that DC a week ago had a higher
murder rate than trint it out it's a.

Speaker 15 (01:39:07):
Big ol ah.

Speaker 3 (01:39:10):
Anyway, what your day is better than his?

Speaker 18 (01:39:12):
Ants?

Speaker 26 (01:39:13):
All right?

Speaker 27 (01:39:14):
In color shape Shift at a players out tonight, Duco
or David Higgins of whoever it is who runs symphony.
They're out of control, all right. They're doing a plane rave.
They're going to throw a symphony event on flight in
Z one three three to one that's flying from Auckland
to Sydney on December the fourth, ahead of the symphony
performance at the Sydney Opera House, shape Shifter will be

(01:39:35):
performing Dick Johnson, who picks the Settlers through all the
symphony shows he'll be performing. They say it will be
a full sensory experience for guests cruising across the Tasman.
Apparently it'll all be perfectly safe. But they're going to
be messing with the lights and the sounds and all
that on the flight over there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
Are you telling us about this in the hope that
they invite you on this flight, because this feels like
a bit of ants.

Speaker 26 (01:39:52):
Time, you know what I mean? If I have to
fly to Sydney, this is probably be the way I
want to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
Yeah, yep, there we go. So yeah, So just putting
it out there. Answers available that day. Whatever that day is,
answers available that day. See you tomorrow. Enjoy Evening news
Talks dB.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
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Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
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