September 19, 2025 • 11 mins
Tonight on the Huddle: Sports commentator Andrew Gordon and One News sports reporter Kate Wells join Heather duPlessis-Allan to discuss the latest sports news.
The Black Ferns have made it to the semi finals of the Rugby World Cup, can they go all the way? Big congratulations are in order for Geordie Beamish who takes steeplechase gold, and what's happening with the Silver Ferns' rotating captains?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Friday Sports saddled with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty,
Find your one of a kind?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Here comes Jordy Beamish over our last barrier. Watch the Kiwi.
He finishes so crackly, How he's.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Coming, How is closing?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Best?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Side by side? And this time it goes to Beamish.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And he's a win. The Havish Caun, the Olympic champion
becomes the world champion stole through.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Second half excellence and excellent one for the.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Black Ferns semi final bound at the Rugby World Cup.
Right on the sports title this evening, we have Andrew Gordy,
sports commentator and Kate Well's one new sportsporter. Hell are
you two good?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Dame?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
How are we good?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Thank you very much? Gordy. Do you think the Black
Feronds are going to prevail?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, of course I know. I'm like I'm going to
say anything else on your program on a Friday afternoon. Yeah,
I do think they will prevail. And I actually think
most of the world hopes that the Black Ferns prevail
because I think when you consider what most people would
say is the top two teams in the world, they
would say England and New Zealand and I think, especially
(01:17):
when you consider the last Rugby World Cup final between
these two, I think most rugby fans would love to
see a rematch of these two countries. It's going to
be really tough without George Miller, obviously, but no, I'm certainly.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Back in there.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, Okay. We talked about this last week on the
Sports title, how little coverage there's been, and it remains
the case that we've hardly talked about it. And what
I'm noticing is a pattern that with the boys when
they get into the Rugby World Cup, we watch every
single game, but with the girls, we don't really tune
in until the finals time, do we.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I guess it's just a demographic thing as well. I
know a lot of younger people have been tuning into
most of the games, but I'd say you're probably getting
most people now that it's coming to the finals. I
know there's been a lot of heat on me as well,
but I think if you look and you watch all
the bulletins or you look in the papers every day,
here is coverage there. But like you need that, when
the finals do come around, there is more coverage and
(02:10):
more attention. So I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Literally just called me old, didn't you know? Well, you do.
It's a demographic thing and the young people are tuning
in and if I'm not a young people, what am i?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And old people also also because there's a lot of
you know, content creators and influence as I call it
be are you know, they're doing a lot of promo
work on social media, so I think they're attracting more people,
younger people who are on their phones all the time
to what So I think that's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Now you're winning, Kate, Now you're like, oh, the younger
people on their phones, not like me, not like me
reading books, my high faluting books. Now, Gordie, what about that,
Jordie Bemerche.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Wasn't that extraordinary? And do you know, I'll be stunned
if that's not your Halberg Sports moment of the Year.
I just thought it was utterly brilliant and I'm thrilled
for the bloke because that is that moment is going
to set up his entire career like that is that
is the billboard moments the New Zealand athletics. It is
absolutely everything that you know impossible is nothing, you can
(03:11):
do anything, You know, never give up and had all
those whole hearts, but didn't it you know? And seeing
the guy come from miles off the pace to his
opponents two times, you know, Olympic and World debating champion
on the line was just the stuff of legends.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Is it still the case that you can be like,
we're really good at all the other stuff in athletics,
but the running is the glory stuff, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah? And I think you have to look at the
history as well. New Zealand has such a rich history
with middle distance running and to see that continue is awesome.
I love all the little slogans. Andrew Gordy could probably
come up with a few more so Jordy Beamish, but
also you have to look at the ones coming through
Sam Ruth. We've heard so much about who's you know,
got all these records as a youngster. Seeing what Jordy
(03:54):
Beamish has done is only a good thing. And I
think looking at the meal table, New Zealand is fourth
behind the Yuis, Kenya and Canada. So those two gold
medals have set New Zealand up really well.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
We are doing well now. Speaking of running, Kate, have
you ever heard of a woman called Ruth Croft.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yes, yes, I'm actually I would say a very poor
trail runner compared to Ruth and I followed her quite closely,
and she is an absolute legend. I'm staying awake for
twenty three hours, I think is something, but doing it
running at a very fast paces is unbelievable. So she
is an epic athlete.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm so impressed that you. Did you know, Gordy, did
you know who Ruth Croft is?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I didn't know who Ruth Croft was, but I'm going
to say I have immense respect for anyone who can
do that. I'm in an age now either, and I'm
sure you'll know this, but I have problems with my
right calf muscle just trotting down the stairs every day,
So a respects for people like that. Yeah, my niece
are still good. Thank god.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It's the carves, kay.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Are you looking after your knees if you're doing all
this running?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Well? I'm also I love to play netball and basketball,
so I do get quite sure. You know, past the
ten k mark, I get a bit achy, but I
try to look after myself. But it's probably only going
to get worse.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Isn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yes, it is, yes, and then when you're an old
post for you don't know there's a question mark at
the end of that sentence. Kate, absolutely, And it's not
like you have to wait very long because Gordy and
I are only about forty so it's just around the
corner there.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
About I will take a break back, come back and
talk about the rugby in the Tech.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
The Friday Sports title with New Zealand South of ey'st
International Realty, the Global Leader and Luxury real Estate right.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Back of the sports tuttle thirteen away from six. Kate
Wells Andrew Gordy. Now, Kate, are you going to be
watching Cameroy Guard this weekend to see how he's going?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I will.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I mean, it couldn't be better timing cut it. With
all of those injuries to the halfbacks. I think we're
a little bit cursed in that department. I mean, I
hope people don't tackle him too hard. There's some the
kids coming up.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Gordy. Actually, this race is a very good point. I
mean every player out there must know we need cam
Royguard right for the old.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Last look after him?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So do they all go? They will go, look that
we know we want to beat County's manacau. But it's
more important that we don't tackle cam Royguard too hard.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
This is the greatest positional crisis I think since the
twenty eleven Rugby World Cup, since Dan Carter and then
who was it, Colin Slade and then we went through
Aaron Crude and down to Petty Weeper and Stephen Donald.
It was just ridiculous And this is kind of the
situation we're in now. I supposed to concern for me
here there is the guys had a stress fracture and
his foot hasn't he So it's not just so much
(06:39):
don't tackle him, just don't run anywhere from us. Don't
want acational pressure on your foot for goodness sake, just
put your feet up.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You've got to look at Noah Hothen as well, who
they got that quite quickly from ankle injury and now
he's gone and broke in the other ankle straight away.
So it's like, do we really need to play in
But you kind of trust that they're doing the thing,
you hope.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So are you know what's up with this rotating captains
in the silver ferns?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Gordy Well, I guess it's a pretty delicate situation in
the Silver Ferns at the moment, isn't it? And with
I suppose a vacuum in the captaincy space, I can
kind of understand that Vet mcauls and jury isn't coming
in to be the head coach. She's an interim coach,
so she's not really doesn't really have the authority I
suppose to be making any hard and fast and long
(07:27):
term decisions for this team. She's really just trying to
get them through this period, isn't she. So look, is
it something that I would be advocating for in usual circumstances. Absolutely,
not that these are not usual circumstances.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But where isn't it? Kate? What do you think's going
on here?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Well, I think Andrew's right. They don't have a head
coach in place. Everything's just kind of a you know,
game by game at this stage. But you would like
to think that with the players and the team now,
they do have a you know, two people of strong
contenders that could be captain. Whether they just don't want
to do it until they have a head coach splotted in,
(08:06):
you don't know, But I mean you'd like to hope
they keep one or two of the saying throughout the
whole series, and it's not just a you know, hand
it out for fun, pick me picnic, because otherwise that
could be quite confusing on the court and be a
bit conflicting in each of the games.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, well, undoubtedly it will be. Now I'll tell you
what I found interesting Guardian, and I want you to
take on it because I know, I mean, you've obviously
been reporting for a fair bit the media. Apparently New
Zealand media were not allowed to ask Liam Lawson any
questions about his future on the F one grid for
next year. Is that weird?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's totally weird. It's utterly ridiculous, and I'm actually pleased
to see. I don't know who else that's involved, but
I did read the stuff article and they see that
they basically a media opportunity. We're exactly the right thing
to do. Yeah, if you'd ever on the sport or
the athlete, and I don't care what sport it is,
the tunes of that are we'll ask quarting for questions.
(08:59):
It is up to you to figure out which questions
we're going to ask and how are you going to
answer them. I hate this dictatorial style that we often
seem from very very powerful sports and sporting organizations. It's
just disrespectful and it's like we're either here to cover
it or not. You can't have it both ways. I
suppose the if one is just so big and powerful
(09:19):
they think they can throw their weight around like this.
But let's see how far that goes. And I'm sure, look,
there's going to be plenty of plenty of reporters and
whatnot that will suck that up and just toe the line,
but there'll be a few that don't. And if that
tips in the other direction, you're doing great harm to
your sport.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, you wouldn't suck this up, would you, Kate?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Oh No. And I think we're seeing it as well
with the black ferns and saying you're not allowed to ask,
we're not allowed to find out what Georgia Miller's injury is.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I don't know what the big secret is.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And going back to Liam Lawson, I'm sure people would
have a top tier PR team to help him answer
a question, you know, in some roundabout way. But it's
just frustrating. They're taking the mickey a little bit and
trying to control everything, which unfortunately they can't.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Kay is the reason that they don't want to tell
people what Georgia Miller's injury is, so that the if
she was to pop up again at some like, let's say,
if we're lucky enough to have her back in the finals,
to avoid the opposing team targeting that part of her body.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah, I honestly have no idea. She was training by
herself yesterday when our team was there on that team naming,
which is unusual because if someone's training, you would think
they're okay. So it's like, is it a head knock?
But they're playing their cardbrew close to their chest. But
I just can't believe that they haven't fronted up about it.
(10:36):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, that is weird. Good you got a theory.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yet the only thing that I can potentially think of
is that, let's say it's an injury that rules her
out of the World Cup. They if they do that,
I'm pretty sure she has to leave the environment, and
perhaps they don't want to do that or don't deem
that it's necessary. So I'm purely guessing here from the outside.
But if they were to say, George, you know, she's
(10:59):
got injury, that's bad enough that she's out of the
World Cup. She would have to leave the environment and
that's probably something that neither the player nor the team
wants at this particular point in the tournament. So that's
my rogue theory. Take it or leave it, well, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's better than it's no worse than any other we've heard.
Thank you guys, appreciate it and enjoy your week in
the sport Andrew Gordy and Kate Wells.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
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The Friday Sports saddled with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty,
Find your one of a kind?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Here comes Jordy Beamish over our last barrier. Watch the Kiwi.
He finishes so crackly, How he's.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Coming, How is closing?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Best?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Side by side? And this time it goes to Beamish.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
And he's a win. The Havish Caun, the Olympic champion
becomes the world champion stole through.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Second half excellence and excellent one for the.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Black Ferns semi final bound at the Rugby World Cup.
Right on the sports title this evening, we have Andrew Gordy,
sports commentator and Kate Well's one new sportsporter. Hell are
you two good?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Dame?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
How are we good?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Thank you very much? Gordy. Do you think the Black
Feronds are going to prevail?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, of course I know. I'm like I'm going to
say anything else on your program on a Friday afternoon. Yeah,
I do think they will prevail. And I actually think
most of the world hopes that the Black Ferns prevail
because I think when you consider what most people would
say is the top two teams in the world, they
would say England and New Zealand and I think, especially
(01:17):
when you consider the last Rugby World Cup final between
these two, I think most rugby fans would love to
see a rematch of these two countries. It's going to
be really tough without George Miller, obviously, but no, I'm certainly.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Back in there.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Yeah, Okay. We talked about this last week on the
Sports title, how little coverage there's been, and it remains
the case that we've hardly talked about it. And what
I'm noticing is a pattern that with the boys when
they get into the Rugby World Cup, we watch every
single game, but with the girls, we don't really tune
in until the finals time, do we.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
I guess it's just a demographic thing as well. I
know a lot of younger people have been tuning into
most of the games, but I'd say you're probably getting
most people now that it's coming to the finals. I
know there's been a lot of heat on me as well,
but I think if you look and you watch all
the bulletins or you look in the papers every day,
here is coverage there. But like you need that, when
the finals do come around, there is more coverage and
(02:10):
more attention. So I'm excited for it.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Literally just called me old, didn't you know? Well, you do.
It's a demographic thing and the young people are tuning
in and if I'm not a young people, what am i?
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And old people also also because there's a lot of
you know, content creators and influence as I call it
be are you know, they're doing a lot of promo
work on social media, so I think they're attracting more people,
younger people who are on their phones all the time
to what So I think that's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Now you're winning, Kate, Now you're like, oh, the younger
people on their phones, not like me, not like me
reading books, my high faluting books. Now, Gordie, what about that,
Jordie Bemerche.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Wasn't that extraordinary? And do you know, I'll be stunned
if that's not your Halberg Sports moment of the Year.
I just thought it was utterly brilliant and I'm thrilled
for the bloke because that is that moment is going
to set up his entire career like that is that
is the billboard moments the New Zealand athletics. It is
absolutely everything that you know impossible is nothing, you can
(03:11):
do anything, You know, never give up and had all
those whole hearts, but didn't it you know? And seeing
the guy come from miles off the pace to his
opponents two times, you know, Olympic and World debating champion
on the line was just the stuff of legends.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Is it still the case that you can be like,
we're really good at all the other stuff in athletics,
but the running is the glory stuff, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah? And I think you have to look at the
history as well. New Zealand has such a rich history
with middle distance running and to see that continue is awesome.
I love all the little slogans. Andrew Gordy could probably
come up with a few more so Jordy Beamish, but
also you have to look at the ones coming through
Sam Ruth. We've heard so much about who's you know,
got all these records as a youngster. Seeing what Jordy
(03:54):
Beamish has done is only a good thing. And I
think looking at the meal table, New Zealand is fourth
behind the Yuis, Kenya and Canada. So those two gold
medals have set New Zealand up really well.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
We are doing well now. Speaking of running, Kate, have
you ever heard of a woman called Ruth Croft.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Yes, yes, I'm actually I would say a very poor
trail runner compared to Ruth and I followed her quite closely,
and she is an absolute legend. I'm staying awake for
twenty three hours, I think is something, but doing it
running at a very fast paces is unbelievable. So she
is an epic athlete.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm so impressed that you. Did you know, Gordy, did
you know who Ruth Croft is?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
I didn't know who Ruth Croft was, but I'm going
to say I have immense respect for anyone who can
do that. I'm in an age now either, and I'm
sure you'll know this, but I have problems with my
right calf muscle just trotting down the stairs every day,
So a respects for people like that. Yeah, my niece
are still good. Thank god.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It's the carves, kay.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Are you looking after your knees if you're doing all
this running?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Well? I'm also I love to play netball and basketball,
so I do get quite sure. You know, past the
ten k mark, I get a bit achy, but I
try to look after myself. But it's probably only going
to get worse.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Isn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yes, it is, yes, and then when you're an old
post for you don't know there's a question mark at
the end of that sentence. Kate, absolutely, And it's not
like you have to wait very long because Gordy and
I are only about forty so it's just around the
corner there.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
About I will take a break back, come back and
talk about the rugby in the Tech.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
The Friday Sports title with New Zealand South of ey'st
International Realty, the Global Leader and Luxury real Estate right.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Back of the sports tuttle thirteen away from six. Kate
Wells Andrew Gordy. Now, Kate, are you going to be
watching Cameroy Guard this weekend to see how he's going?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I will.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
I mean, it couldn't be better timing cut it. With
all of those injuries to the halfbacks. I think we're
a little bit cursed in that department. I mean, I
hope people don't tackle him too hard. There's some the
kids coming up.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Gordy. Actually, this race is a very good point. I
mean every player out there must know we need cam
Royguard right for the old.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Last look after him?
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So do they all go? They will go, look that
we know we want to beat County's manacau. But it's
more important that we don't tackle cam Royguard too hard.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
This is the greatest positional crisis I think since the
twenty eleven Rugby World Cup, since Dan Carter and then
who was it, Colin Slade and then we went through
Aaron Crude and down to Petty Weeper and Stephen Donald.
It was just ridiculous And this is kind of the
situation we're in now. I supposed to concern for me
here there is the guys had a stress fracture and
his foot hasn't he So it's not just so much
(06:39):
don't tackle him, just don't run anywhere from us. Don't
want acational pressure on your foot for goodness sake, just
put your feet up.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
You've got to look at Noah Hothen as well, who
they got that quite quickly from ankle injury and now
he's gone and broke in the other ankle straight away.
So it's like, do we really need to play in
But you kind of trust that they're doing the thing,
you hope.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So are you know what's up with this rotating captains
in the silver ferns?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Gordy Well, I guess it's a pretty delicate situation in
the Silver Ferns at the moment, isn't it? And with
I suppose a vacuum in the captaincy space, I can
kind of understand that Vet mcauls and jury isn't coming
in to be the head coach. She's an interim coach,
so she's not really doesn't really have the authority I
suppose to be making any hard and fast and long
(07:27):
term decisions for this team. She's really just trying to
get them through this period, isn't she. So look, is
it something that I would be advocating for in usual circumstances. Absolutely,
not that these are not usual circumstances.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
But where isn't it? Kate? What do you think's going
on here?
Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Well, I think Andrew's right. They don't have a head
coach in place. Everything's just kind of a you know,
game by game at this stage. But you would like
to think that with the players and the team now,
they do have a you know, two people of strong
contenders that could be captain. Whether they just don't want
to do it until they have a head coach splotted in,
(08:06):
you don't know, But I mean you'd like to hope
they keep one or two of the saying throughout the
whole series, and it's not just a you know, hand
it out for fun, pick me picnic, because otherwise that
could be quite confusing on the court and be a
bit conflicting in each of the games.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, well, undoubtedly it will be. Now I'll tell you
what I found interesting Guardian, and I want you to
take on it because I know, I mean, you've obviously
been reporting for a fair bit the media. Apparently New
Zealand media were not allowed to ask Liam Lawson any
questions about his future on the F one grid for
next year. Is that weird?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It's totally weird. It's utterly ridiculous, and I'm actually pleased
to see. I don't know who else that's involved, but
I did read the stuff article and they see that
they basically a media opportunity. We're exactly the right thing
to do. Yeah, if you'd ever on the sport or
the athlete, and I don't care what sport it is,
the tunes of that are we'll ask quarting for questions.
(08:59):
It is up to you to figure out which questions
we're going to ask and how are you going to
answer them. I hate this dictatorial style that we often
seem from very very powerful sports and sporting organizations. It's
just disrespectful and it's like we're either here to cover
it or not. You can't have it both ways. I
suppose the if one is just so big and powerful
(09:19):
they think they can throw their weight around like this.
But let's see how far that goes. And I'm sure, look,
there's going to be plenty of plenty of reporters and
whatnot that will suck that up and just toe the line,
but there'll be a few that don't. And if that
tips in the other direction, you're doing great harm to
your sport.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Yeah, you wouldn't suck this up, would you, Kate?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Oh No. And I think we're seeing it as well
with the black ferns and saying you're not allowed to ask,
we're not allowed to find out what Georgia Miller's injury is.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
I don't know what the big secret is.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And going back to Liam Lawson, I'm sure people would
have a top tier PR team to help him answer
a question, you know, in some roundabout way. But it's
just frustrating. They're taking the mickey a little bit and
trying to control everything, which unfortunately they can't.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Kay is the reason that they don't want to tell
people what Georgia Miller's injury is, so that the if
she was to pop up again at some like, let's say,
if we're lucky enough to have her back in the finals,
to avoid the opposing team targeting that part of her body.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yeah, I honestly have no idea. She was training by
herself yesterday when our team was there on that team naming,
which is unusual because if someone's training, you would think
they're okay. So it's like, is it a head knock?
But they're playing their cardbrew close to their chest. But
I just can't believe that they haven't fronted up about it.
(10:36):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, that is weird. Good you got a theory.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yet the only thing that I can potentially think of
is that, let's say it's an injury that rules her
out of the World Cup. They if they do that,
I'm pretty sure she has to leave the environment, and
perhaps they don't want to do that or don't deem
that it's necessary. So I'm purely guessing here from the outside.
But if they were to say, George, you know, she's
(10:59):
got injury, that's bad enough that she's out of the
World Cup. She would have to leave the environment and
that's probably something that neither the player nor the team
wants at this particular point in the tournament. So that's
my rogue theory. Take it or leave it, well, you know.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It's better than it's no worse than any other we've heard.
Thank you guys, appreciate it and enjoy your week in
the sport Andrew Gordy and Kate Wells.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
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