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September 22, 2025 4 mins

Australia's joined the UK, Canada and others in recognising Palestinian statehood.

Anthony Albanese says unified recognition is important - and three of the Five Eyes nations have now declared their stance.

Australian correspondent Oliver Peterson says Albanese has confirmed this recognition comes with conditions - including that Hamas will not govern Gaza again and that Palestine will recognise Israel's right to peace and security.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind
for New Zealand Business twenty two away from five Oli
Peterson six PR Perth Live presenter with us OLI. Good afternoon,
Good afternoon, Ryan. So what's the justification for Australia recognizing
Palestine's statehood?

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Well, the Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi believes that this will
send a message to Palestine.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
That's obviously Australia believes.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
That we can have peace in the Middle East on
the proviso, of course, that all the hostages are returned
to Israel. The PM, obviously there at the United Nations,
hoping to catch up with Donald Trump, says a recognition
of Palestine is a step forward towards Israelis and Palestinians
living side by side in peace and security and advancing
the prosperity of both peoples.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
I highly doubt that, with.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
All due respect to the Prime Minister of Australia, that
anybody in Israel or Palestine is going to take too
much notice of his hopes and desires for peace in
the Middle East. But look, it is just fascinating at
the moments when the Prime Minister has failed in his
negotiations with both Vanawatu and Papia New Guinea. He's in
New York, as I said, for the United Nations Assembly.

(01:09):
He's hoping to catch up with Donald Trump. He doesn't
have a meeting scheduled with the US presidents, and he
has a lot of demands which have come through from
the Republicans. You may have seen this over the weekend,
Ryan where a number of Republicans have co signed a
letter basically saying if Australia were to recognize a Palestinian state,
which is what we have done, then.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
The orcust agreement should be scrapped.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
Is effectively what they are threatening, and that there would
be consequences for the relationship between Australia and the United States.
The fact that the PM has not been able to
get the ear or confirm that he will get the
ear of the US President with how important orcus is
for Australia right now, and he's never actually had a
face to face conversation with Donald Trump. G I would
hate to be him right now without securing that meeting

(01:52):
over the next couple of days, because we have got
a lot of questions being asked in this country today
about what exactly our foreign policy.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
Is what's the in game for Australia now, the optus
the Triple zero outage, the fallout from this, is the
CEO going to survive? You reckon?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Stephen Roue has really handled this appallingly on a number
of fronts, not just the fact that we've had four
people die as a result of the outage of the
triple zero telephone number. He did it at about six
o'clock Eastern Standard Time on Friday, so you know, Ryan
and our listeners would know that you take out the
trash on a Friday, try and bury a story that

(02:30):
it might not get as much coverage. He has done
this as the national news services on the East Coast
are going to air this continues to Biden. It has
all over the weekend, it does again today. But not
just the fact that the timing of the announcement was poor.
Nobody had opt this, had actually informed anybody within the government,
either the federal government or the State government of Australia.

(02:54):
So when Stephen Rude made this statement on Friday afternoon.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
In front of the cameras, that was the first time
that the Federal.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Communications Minister Annik Wells found out about this.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
So look Stephen thereho's only been in the job for
about a year.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Optic has gone from controversy to controversy after the data
hack and now this. He came from the National Broadband Network.
He has been asked about his future, saying it's not
about me. It is about the lives that have been
lost and we need to get to the bottom of
what actually happened. The Prime Minister, though, has said that
he be surprised if the boss wasn't considering his future.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
So I don't see how Stephen Rue survives this.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
But a terrible example of public relations and communications when
they're in that business. Ryan, they're a telco, they're in
the communications business, and I kind of get the communications right.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
No, exactly, olive very quickly before you go. There's stopping
e bikes from going on trains in New South Wales
because of a fire risk. Is this any old e
bike e bikes that have been modified by people, Well.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
That's the fine print.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
They wanted them all, but it's going to be the
e bikes that have been modified. Or if you've got
a normal pedal bike and you've put a little motor
on it, that won't be allowed on You can get
a fine of eleven hundred bucks if you are caught
bringing one of these onto the trains, But don't be
surprised if the e bikes will also be banned soon
from trains. Imagine being a train guard. All the things
you got to look at for now damn e bike.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, and you've got to figure out who's modified, who's
g I wired them or who's you know. Sounds like
an it mere. Thanks Olli Peterson, our Aussie correspondent.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
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