Full Show Podcast: 25 September 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The only drive show you can trust to ask the questions,
get the answers, find the facts and give the analysis.
Bryan Bridge on hither Duplicy Ellen Drive with One New
Zealand and the power of Satellite Mobile News ORGSV.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Good afternoon, six after four coming up Miles Hurell on
one of fontire Is best ever results. The all in
gas Man is Gonsti's and we've got our first application already.
We're at the AB's camp within Australia. We're in the UK.
If you've ever wondered what do you do if there's
a nuclear war, we will have some sort of answer
for you after six Bryan Bridge, So the Teachers' Union's

(00:37):
warning about a rising tide of extremism in our schools,
read the story. What's the actual problem? That's what I'm
trying to figure out today. Apparently some kids say the
Trump Boys, I like a majority of Americans. Presumably a
few kids here support the Republican Party or the Mega Movement.
The other problem apparently some schoolgirls say they want to
be tread wives, which means traditional wives. I have children,

(01:01):
stay at home and raise them. Now that's about as
much detail as I could glean from this particular story
that was in the news today and is doing the
rounds on social media, and the moral of the story
was from the unions. The government needs to take action
on this. Here's the problem. Children are allowed to have
political views, they're allowed to have societal views. Teachers are

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not there to police politics. Your job is apolitical, and
we need to encourage critical thinking, not legislate against it.
There will be people who read that story and think,
here we go again with the brainwashing thing. You know,
your job is education, not indoctrination. The reality is not
all girls will go on to be the Reserve Bank governor,

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nor will all boys. Not all boys will grow up
to marry women. Hello, everyone's different, is my point. But
you can't embrace kids changing genders and then demand state
intervention when a girl's so she wants to get married
and have kids. I'm no conservative, far from it, but
I do hear from a lot of parents who kind

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of feel like they've lost faith in the education system,
or at least some teachers within it. If a girl
wants to grow up to be a mum, is that
radical or is that choice? If a kid wants to
support Donald Trump, is that radical? Or is that choice?
Should they be branded an extremist for holding those views

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or should those views be used as a springboard for
a healthy debate about society. Could this not be an
opportunity to introduce and encourage some critical thinking in our
young people?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Bryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Nine after four two The number text few of us
can afford to purchase the healthy food that we need
at the supermarket. Data from the Ministry of Social Development
shows that nearly half of us are cutting back on
our food and veggie intake at the supermarket. Why you guessed?
At cost a Living the number has doubled since twenty eighteen.
Michael Vander's Sorry Van der Elson is host to Eat

(03:14):
Well for Less and joins me this afternoon. Michael get
a after Ryan, You're right, yep, very well, thank you?
Is it how hard is it to afford healthy fruit
and veggies?

Speaker 4 (03:27):
Well, I hasn't to not ask that question. I asked
the question of if we're not buying fruit and veggies,
what are we buying to fill our bellies? Are we
just going without? Or are we going to the likes
of fast food places?

Speaker 2 (03:46):
And unfortunately the numbers speak for themselves on that, don't they?

Speaker 4 (03:49):
So what do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Well, yeah, it's the latter. So is the supermarket. Where
do you get your your groceries from, you know, your
fruit and vegil is it supermarkets or do you go
to fruit and vegie shop?

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Well, we grow We grow it all here on our farm.
But I was leading up to this, I was doing
a bit of research. I was just running through some websites,
having a look at some supermarkets and you know, pruptly
is two dollars fifty ahead, carrots are two dollars thirty, potatoes.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Are three dollars twenty nine.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Half a cabbage is four dollars fifty. I don't see
a crazy price in what I would put onto a
plate at nighttime. Yes, if you're going to put grapes
on there at fourteen dollars, maybe we won't go down
that road. You know, it's kind of like dairy has
gone through the roof in the last you know, it's

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six months to a year. Are we cutting back on
the amount of butter that we're using and we're cutting
back on the amount of yogat that we're consuming, Yes,
we probably are. But when it comes to fruit and
veg I don't see a massive spike in prices, maybe
for the the more kind of wanter haves, maybe the

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pineapples and the watermelons and the plums and.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Things that we shouldn't be eating at this time of
the year.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
But look at potatoes, look at our basics, our basic
fruit and vegetables that will pull us up. You know,
bananas at three dollars sixty nine a kilo. Has that
gone bananas in the last six months to a year
in price? I don't think so. So where where is
this data coming from that they are saying that it's

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all gone up so much? Because I don't see it
in the everyday products that we buy.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
I just don't.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Is there a problem with doing frozen veggies? Are they
literal nutritious?

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Not at all, Bobby?

Speaker 4 (05:50):
If not more, because they are snap frozen right there
when they're collected. A kenle of frozen vegetables and a
supermarket just around the corner from where we live in
Commune three dollars sixty nine for a kilo of frozen vegetables.
The beauty about frozen vegetables.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Is you use what you need.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
What you don't need remains in the freezer. They stay
good for six months. Once it's gone, you go out
and you buy some more and it stays in your freezer.
Frozen mixed berry's ten dollars for a kilo bag. You know,
if you're having you smoothie in the morning and you're
having to go without because mangoes are six dollars fifty,
just buy the frozen ones. They're just as good. They're

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just as tasty. And when they go into a smoothie,
who knows if the fresh or frozen, they're probably better frozen.
So I think when people say fruit and vegetables are
tod or too expensive to afford, I think we need
to kind of just step back and go what are
we buying? Are we buying strawberries in winter? Are we
buying plums in winter? Are we buying stuff out of season?

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Because from what I see when I go past the
fruit and bed shop and they've got the big black
board out there with all the chalk on there going
two heads a cauliflower for a dollar fifty, I buy them.
You just need to use your nut a little bit.
You need to think about what you're buying and the
time that you're buying it, and sometimes we may not

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get what we want at that particular time of the year.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Michael, appreciate your time. Michael Van der Elson, who's host
of eat Well for Less fourteen after four Bright and
bread Brech. Wow, how's that for a strong opinion to
start the program? How do we feel about that? Do
you do you agree? I mean, he's got a farm,
so I'm sure some of you who shop weekly will
be saying thinking otherwise. I mean, you look at the
numbers from stats and they have gone up. But as

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he said, it's seasonal stuff. You know, you can peck
and choose and not everything has gone up astronomically, has it?
So what do you do at your house? Nine two
nine two fourteen after four Darcy Sport. Next, it's the.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
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Speaker 2 (07:59):
Zebby News Talks B. We're talking The cost of fruit
and vegie is seventeen after four Hallelujah says And is
someone speaking the truth on the great pricing of fruit
and vegie right now? PAMs says another one kg frozen
mixed veggies wide range at around four to four dollars
fifty great value in the off season. Ryan, how do
people afford fast food. I went to McDonald's for the

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second time this year, thirty six dollars for two people.
It's far cheaper to buy vegetables and seasons, says Grant. Grant.
It's a good point. So are we all lazy? Is
that what it is? We actually can't be bothered buying them,
dragging them home from the supermarket, putting them on our
chopping boards and chopping them up and making something healthy.
Seventeen minutes after four sport.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
With a tab app download and get your bed on
r eighteen bit responsibly.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Maybe that's what's wrong with the all blacks haven't been
eaten their meeting three beage.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
I think the same thing, Ryan, How do people afford
fast It's.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Not cheap, very expensive.

Speaker 6 (08:59):
You pay a lot for fillers.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, we had the team naming today, so Sarvia is
into the captains.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
Yeah, he's got the cabins your role because Scooter Barrett
is Bundon's shoulder, so he's not going to be there.
So a bit a bit of a re drig rejig
around the loose forwards and the locks. We've had some
change in the fact that Cody Taylor has come back
as hooker from his concussion, which is awesome because he's
the best in the tray. Great to have him there.
We've got Caleb Clark coming in on the left wing.

(09:27):
Good under the high ball. He's playing at home and
he's absolutely pumped to get back in the side again
and a superstar winger from two weeks ago. Well he
was probably the best on the part. We're all blacks.
Leroy Carter has found himself on the right wing at fourteen.
Paddy two oh, cameray goat at number nine.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
This is going to make a huge difference.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Yeah, Peter likel has come in as loose Ford cover,
so no duplicity carriffee which is interesting. Patrick to he
blocked the ie. Paddy two ups themselves back on the
bench again and that is great to see. Not too
many changes. They could have swung the axe a little
further of them. Glad they didn't consistency. A lot of

(10:11):
these guys can lick their wounds from two weeks ago.
I mean they dug this hole it right, so.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
You know, plus it's again they dig out of a
hole on them, that'll be the sixteenth man on the field.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
Is it any to dig your way out of a hole.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
No you can't, No, you would dig further.

Speaker 5 (10:27):
Can you have half a hole?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
These are very fascinating questions, quite introspective questions. But we
need to get to the wallabies. What are they doing?

Speaker 5 (10:35):
What are the Wallabies doing? Doesn't matter, they're going to
get blown off.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
The park, all right, Well, come on.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
They're they're paying four dollars eighty to win R eighteen.
Bet responsibly. This is what we call insurance betting. They're
all blacks paying a dollar seventeen. Right, they should win.
They're overwhelming favorites to win dispatch, they'll be dark one
after I forget about that. We're just doing we're right
here right now. So the Wallabies are paying for four

(11:00):
dollars eighty, So you take a tenor don't beat more
than you can afford to lose, and you stick it
on the Wallabies and that's lost insurance. So if they do,
by some strange strange occurrence actually win, you walk off
with fifty bucks. So you're okay with the all Blacks
from losing au R. That's the idea. Anyhow, A Ryan
quick question, and yes, if you had a tail, what

(11:22):
would it be?

Speaker 2 (11:23):
What do you mean?

Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well, if you could have a tail, any animal the
animal kingdom. You actually had to have a tail, because
everyone's got tails except humans.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
They've just got I'd have the smallest one, like a
little rabbit, would you Yeah, you wouldn't want a big
You wouldn't want something hanging out in the back end
of your pants.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Well, and I'd run a kangaroo because you can stand
up on it, smack people and you can wipe things
out with it. What do you reckon? Maybe a basil
brush tail?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
All right, I think we've finished with about a scorpions.
Twenty after four News Talk said, be we're back in
a second and we won't be talking about tails.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Digging deeper into the day's headlines, it's Ryan Bridge on
hither dupless Ellen dry with one New Zealand coverage like
no one else news dogs they'd be it.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Is four twenty three. You quick look across the Tasman
before you bugger off to Queensland and follow the rest
of New Zealand and move. They are having a bit
of a problem with their job market today, a bit
of a whack. In fact, it's been happening at sharp
decline over the past three months. Total job vacancy. Is
there three hundred and twenty seven thy two hundred for August.
This is from the Australian Bureau Statistics. A two point

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seven percent drop from May private set to vacancies two
hundred and eighty eight thousand, seven hundred A three point
four percent four here's the interesting thing, which you won't
get here. In New Zealand a two point two percent
lift from the public sector. Thanks Elbow twenty four minutes
after four so many texts, I'm sorry I can't keep up,
but I'll come back to them later. On Ryan, we

(12:44):
even freeze our bread. This is on fruit and veggies.
Freeze our bread so there's no wastage. Good for you.
On the issue of PPTA and extremist students, Ryan, the
PPTA wants the government to get involved and sought the problem.
Some teachers have been biased in their use rather than
allowing discussion and critical thinking, and this is part of
the problem. I think so too. I think you can't

(13:06):
have it both ways. I do want to make clear,
like if there are specific examples, if you've got a
kid in class who's saying wildly misogynistic, inappropriate, you know,
hurtful things, of course you could get go and send
them out of the class and get them a detention,
you know, punish them. But if you've got a kid
who's saying I like Donald Trump, what do you do

(13:29):
about that? That's no worse than a kid saying I
like just Sinda return, you know what I mean. It's
it's just a political preference, isn't it. And that's something
maybe you can have a debate about. Same goes for
what do you want to do when you grow up.
I want to be a firefighter, great, whether you're a
boy or a girl, excellent. I want to be a
mum or I want to be a dad great, excellent.

(13:50):
I mean you can't how can you say that's wrong
or how can you say that that's extremist? Now, I
know there's the whole online Andrew Tate stuff, and that
is a different kettle of fish. And you know, do
I have the answer to that? No, I don't. Nine
to nine two the number to text twenty five minutes
after four A very quick update. I mentioned this on Tuesday.

(14:10):
This is in Copenhagen and Oslo airports were closed for
several hours this week because of some drones and everyone's
like it is it Putin's drones. Is it Russian drones?
They still haven't figured it out. But the problem is
another airport has similar pattern, similar sort of flight path
from these mystery drones. They've had to close another airport,

(14:34):
Alberg Airport. This is again in Denmark because of drones.
So two cases now Denmark, one in Norway. That's three
airspace closures in two days. And they've got no idea,
or at least they're not saying why or what where
these things have come from. Would love it if there's
any drone experts wh've been looking into this to text

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in the program, because it's it's very curious, isn't it.
It is twenty six minutes after four. Coming up after five,
we're going to talk to Miles Hurrel. The obviously a
fantastic year, the dairy payout and it's going to be
another fantastic season. Plus you add into the mix your
sale of the consumer brands and you're starting to think, oh,

(15:16):
what are we going to buy or are we going
to bank? Are we going to pay down loans? What
are we going to do with that? Farmers? That's a
question for you, and we will talk to Myles Harral
about those results coming up after five o'clock this evening.
Plus we're in the AB's camp. All ahead used talk
seb B.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
The day's newsmakers.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Talk to Ryan first, Ryan Bridge on hither dupiusy Ellen
Drive with one New Zealand had a power of satellite mobile.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Use talk SIBB.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Please don't try five away from five News Talks VB.
So it is the land of milk and honey. And
we'll speak to Myles Harald about that impressive payout four.
And it's not just from the dividends from regular business,
but also the consumer payout as well. It's going to
be massive for farmers, massive for regional New Zealand, and
hopefully that means massive for the rest of US. Two

(16:27):
plus the other milk and honey in this country, at
least Shane Jones would hope. So oil and gas the
band now officially lifted. We'll talk about that after five
as well. You're on News Talks Hebb.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
It's the world wires on news Talks edby Drive.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Zelenski has pledged with the UN to help stop Russia.

Speaker 6 (16:46):
We must use averaging.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
We have together to force their grasser to stop.

Speaker 7 (16:52):
Otherwise put in world keep driving the war forward.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
Waiter.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
He's in the US and staying there. A detainee has died,
two others injured in an immigration center in Dallas. This
is in Texas. A rooftop sniper open fire using bullets
with an anti ice phrase on them.

Speaker 8 (17:09):
What I can also share with you is that early
evidence that we've seen from rounds that were found near
the suspected shooter contain messages that are anti ice in nature. Again,
this is just the most recent example of this type
of attack.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Jim's me, finally, how much would you pay for your
kid's art? I mean, hopefully you've got them at the
dinner table doing it for free. But in Australia there's
a kindergarten that's asking parents to stump up two two
hundred Australian dollars for a curated portfolio of their own
child's artwork. It's been pitched as a fundraiser to save
the debt ridden center, but has lead to parents taking

(17:47):
extreme measures like stealing their children's artwork back in the
middle of the night.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
International correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of mind
for New Zealand business, which.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Sets great example, doesn't it? Oli Peterson six pm pers
live good afternoon.

Speaker 9 (18:04):
Get I'll tell you what. My children are seven and four.
They do some great art.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I'm happy.

Speaker 9 (18:08):
I'll happily sell it to you for two thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, you can keep it. Elbow. Elbow is getting a
bit of art of his own. Is selfie with Trump?

Speaker 9 (18:17):
Oh yeah, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 10 (18:18):
Albo might need to go and see the dentist just
looking at Donald Trump's pearly whites.

Speaker 9 (18:22):
But look, he's chuffed. He got the selfie, He's got
the meeting in October. He'll be back at the White House.
And I think it was very important.

Speaker 10 (18:30):
As I said to you earlier in the week, it's
crucial that they have a face to face meeting.

Speaker 9 (18:33):
So that will happen next month.

Speaker 10 (18:35):
And it just coincides with the Anthony Albanize just addressing
the UN General Assembly in the last couple of hours
and he has resurrected Australia's bid for a place on
the powerful UN Security Council. This has immediately been backed
up by the federal opposition here in Australia, and he's
called for reforms of the institution to ensure it remains
a force for good and strongly endorsed the economic opportunity

(18:57):
of renewable So it would be very very strategic for
Australia to have a seat at the table on the
Security Council at United Nations, whether or not we garner
enough support from other nations around the world. I think,
as we all know here in this part of the world,
don't we ryan that our regional security is just as important,
and it's looking like it's a little bit shaky, So

(19:19):
be good to have at least an Australian at at
the table.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
If we can't get a key, we well, yeah, we're
not even really trying. Hey, family doctors are, our independent
assessments are, and this is all about spiraling costs.

Speaker 11 (19:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (19:32):
Indeed, the National disabili Insurance Scheme is now worth forty
eight billion dollars. It has just ballooned and will continue
to balloon. So what the federal government has decided they
will do is ask an independent doctor to go through
a procedure with somebody applying for the NDIS.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
Now that could take up to about three hours.

Speaker 10 (19:54):
So our trained assess our employed through a particular agency.
Rather than you going to see family doctor who might
sign off on your condition, they're trying to get some
independence into the system because they believe there are thousands.

Speaker 9 (20:06):
Of people who are currently wraughting the scheme.

Speaker 10 (20:08):
Visibility advocates today quite concerned by that because they indicate
that when you are not seeing somebody who is familiar
to you and what you are going through, it creates
additional sources of anxiety and pressure put on that particular individual.
But we've got to do something, Ryan, This is now
becoming a point of being completely and utterly unaffordable the ndis,

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so they're trying to look to rain in costs.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
You might get me surfing with news of a bite
proof witsuit.

Speaker 10 (20:36):
Really, you still might do it. I'm thinking about just
sticking to the pool, to be perfectly honest. But yes,
it's the latest tool of protecting swimmers against sharks, and
it just so happens. I don't know if the video
has gone viral where you are, Ryan, but we've had
about a dozen sharks where I am in Perth just
being described as being lurking around the Freemantle Harbor in
the last couple of days as they're watching on as
we're reconstructing the Freemantle traffic bridge. And can you imagine

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that as you're just looking down at the water and
you see about a dozen bull sharks just.

Speaker 9 (21:03):
Wandering around or lurking in the waters.

Speaker 10 (21:05):
But this is, yes, a new bite proof wetsuit. It's
the latest storm protecting swimmers against sharks. It's been tested
by experts here in Australia. Flinders University has looked at this.
It's the Southern Shark Ecology Group tested the effects of
four bite resistant wetsuit materials so aqua amor Sharkstop Action
ts and Brewster and it's something which could be hitting
our shelves sooner rather than later.

Speaker 9 (21:26):
So we might see you in the surf Hea at
Codslow Beach.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah maybe, OLLI thank you, Olli Peedterson six PR PERS
Live presenter. It's twenty two five.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
Ryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Advice I had for swimming in Australia is just don't
go deeper than any bits you don't.

Speaker 12 (21:40):
Want to lose.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
And you can imagine how deep you would you know,
as a guy, how deep you would go. Basically that's
as far as I went when I was there last. Anyway,
people are braver than me. This is a fascinating story
coming out of it. It's out of Australia, but also Barley,
and I just thought i'd share it with you, So
a Barley Hospitals had to have a press com diference.
Today there's allegations they were involved in an organ theft.

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They are denying it. So the body, this poor young
twenty three year old Australian on holiday there dies in
a plunge pul while he's on holiday, and the body
is taken to a hospital for examination. The body is
returned to the family in Australia four weeks later, and
the family does a secondary autopsy and the heart is missing.

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This young guy's heart is missing, and so there's wild
rumors about organ theft or the Balinese doctors or hospital
or somewhere in the transit has taken it or I mean,
and what would you do with it at that point?
You know? Anyway, hospital does a presser denying it. Two
months after the body was returned repatriated. The heart was

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sent separately, they say, and this is because they needed
to examine it more thoroughly, and that was repatriated. So
everything's fine. Family's lawyered up. Obviously, they're grieving and they're
not happy. It continues eighteen away from five News Talk SEBB.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Politics was centric credit, check your customers and get payments certainty.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Sorry, how with us at sixteen to five Zaria, good afternoon,
Good afternoon. So we got a parliamentary watchdog now investigating
col Bates. This is the Ponganui MP over the rentals.

Speaker 13 (23:18):
Yeah, so Parliament is investigating national MP Calbates, as you say,
over whether or not he complied with requirements to declare investments.
So cal Bates listed properties he owned and also trust
he was a beneficiary of, and through those trusts, the
MP four Wanganui was linked to twenty five homes, most
of which rental properties in the local area. So trust

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link to the MP and his family owned twenty five
properties which are not disclosed on Parliament's list of MP's
property and financial interests. And that was first reported two
weeks ago. Well at the time the story broke, Bates
told The Herald that when he moved into politics, he
left his business to focus on being an MP. He
which included selling businesses and moving away from involvement in

(24:04):
the family property portfolio. And he said, quote as a
discretionary beneficiary of a family trust which has an interest
in a property portfolio. I have no involvement in it
or its interests, as is common for family trusts. And
he's also said at the time that he met with
the Registrar of Pecuniary Interests in advance of filing his

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return to make sure that he would be declaring everything
that was required of him. Since that story has broke, however,
Labor MP Glen Bennett wrote to the Registrar asking them
to determine whether an inquiry was warranted, and that answer
is yes. The Registrar has determined that an inquiry is
warranted and will be undertaken. I mean this comes after

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a preliminary review from the Registrar which took into account
the degree of importance and whether or not it could
be seen as a breach of the obligations. At the
time the story first came out, Bates said that the
regis Stra had actually advised him that property held in
a company whose shares are held by a trust was
in fact not required to be declared. Also, looking at

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the standing orders, the Registrar must invite the member who's
subject of the inquiry to respond within ten working days.
Standing orders, though, also do mean that Cayle Bates is
unable to comment on this inquiry to the media.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
Do you know does anyone know yet? Because he said
he met with the registrar to fill out and find
out what he needed to declare. Did he tell them
at that point that he had this interest in the
twenty five rental properties? Do we know that fact?

Speaker 13 (25:36):
I don't think we know for a fact, but I
mean it is worth noting that at the time cal
Bates said, the registrar advised him the property held in
a company who shares a held by a trust was
not required to be declared. So it's not one hundred
percent clear in terms of that situation.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
That would seem to imply he did. But anyway, we
will move on to the electoral law changes as the
four year term. I got submissions being heard. What are
they saying?

Speaker 13 (26:00):
Yeah, So in terms of this bill, we'll just go
into what those changes are. Enrollment were close thirteen days
before election day, twelve days of advanced voting, the prisoner
voting ban set to come back, and a new offense
as well for prohibiting free food, drink, or entertainment within
one hundred meters of a polling place. So Chief Human

(26:21):
Rights Commissioner Stephen Rainbow, who was actually appointed by the
Justice Minister who's in charge of this bill. Paul Goldsmith
told the Justice Select Committee the agency opposes both the
end to same day enrollment and the ban on prisoner voting,
so he suggested that the changes around same day enrollment
would make it more difficult for younger voters.

Speaker 14 (26:42):
The changes that are proposed reverse a long term trend
of making it more easy for people to vote.

Speaker 13 (26:51):
And he's also saying there will be broader implications and
says there are really wider societal concerns.

Speaker 14 (26:57):
Measures that restrict access to vote, particularly for young people,
risk deepening the distrust.

Speaker 3 (27:04):
In our democracy.

Speaker 14 (27:06):
And I want to be quite explicit at this point,
Committee members, this is not just about democracy for democracy sake.
Democracy is the best safeguard for human rights.

Speaker 13 (27:17):
So's some quite strong words on this one from a
senior official, and also the Law Society has spoken a
bit about the changes to prisoner voting have a listened
to this one.

Speaker 15 (27:26):
The band would also place New Zealand out of step
with Australia, Canada, Scotland, South Africa and nearly all EU
member states which allow at least some people in prison
to vote.

Speaker 16 (27:36):
If not all.

Speaker 13 (27:37):
And we've also been hearing from the Electoral Commission, which
has confirmed it does not expect the changes to make
vote counting any faster. So while it doesn't look like
it will materially reduce the time it takes to count
those votes, it does though mean the time doesn't blow
out significantly or will get much worse. So there'll be
a Select Committee report and further votes on the bill.

(27:57):
It does seem quite contentious at the moment.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Absolutely, Zari, thank you for that. It's Aria how senior
political reporter at News Talk Sead Be. It's just gone
eleven minutes away from five lots of texts coming in
saying why are we picking on Carl or why is
Parliament picking on Carl Bates at the National MP What
about Willie Jackson? He owns lots of men, He's declared
his right. So this is a very peculiar or particular

(28:21):
point about how you or what you have to declare
if you are a discretionary beneficiary of a family trust.
So I mean, yeah, it sounds confusing, but it's basically
he was told. He says he was told it was okay.
Now he's been told it's not and they're investigating him

(28:43):
for that. So did they investigate themselves, you know, and
their own advice?

Speaker 12 (28:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
It's ten away, that's the reason they're doing it. Ten
away from five News Talk sead.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Being the headlines and the hard questions. It's the mic
asking breakfast.

Speaker 17 (28:56):
You got some more funding for new medicines from farm
Mac David Seymour's of course Associatementster of Health that in
charge of FARMAK.

Speaker 18 (29:02):
Instead of Farmac taking the money it has and trying
to negotiate within it, we're actually going to the Minister
of Finance each year and saying, look, we think if
we funded a few more drugs, we would be able
to save the taxpayer money in other areas. And not
to say this will happen, but you look at some
of these drugs like zempic. If we can cut down obesity,
that can save huge amounts of money on everything from

(29:24):
orthopedic surgery to kidney dialysis.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
So it's a work in progress.

Speaker 17 (29:29):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Rain Drover Newstalk.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
ZB seven to five News Talk ZIB. Coming up after five,
we'll look at the oil and gas band being lifted,
and the fact that within two hours of that happening,
there's already been an application from somebody, don't know who.
At this point, they won't say to drill, Baby, Drill,
as Shane likes to say. Now, there's a new podcast
that's launched. It's called The Elephant and it's launched by

(29:55):
The Herald and ended me and it looks at a
whole bunch of controvers Their first one is shame and
they've asked a couple of guests on and you will
know these guests well, Golera's Garment and Tory Farno first
two guests on the show. Here's a little bit of
a little taster of what they've had to say. This

(30:15):
is Goals describing the court process.

Speaker 19 (30:18):
I certainly feel shame about like the shoplifting incident and
going to court, and I mean, I don't think anyone
can really describe the feeling of standing in the dock
and then the entire press gallery descends upon you and
the flashing. You know, it's like a it's like a
firing line.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
This is Tory on the drinking because.

Speaker 20 (30:38):
When you're constantly receiving this really hateful behavior by anonymous people,
but also your own colleagues. It creates so much anxiety
and depression that for me, sure I need some wine.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
And this is the mental health as an excuse.

Speaker 20 (30:57):
There are certain journalists, and there's one journalist who just
wrote the most horrific opinion piece about Goras and said
something like, oh, she's just using mental health as an excuse.
It actually is an excuse.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
It's interesting because the whole podcast is about shame, and
certainly they have felt I'm sure they're fair share of that. Certainly,
being in the dock, you'd feel quite shamed, and well
you would hope you feel shamed and embarrassed. It's kind
of the point of it, right. I just don't know
what are we learning. Why are they doing it? I
suppose because you know, it's all sort of done and dusted,

(31:29):
no one's really talking about it anymore. But here we
are talking about it again. It's five away from five
billions of dollars up for grabs. This is term deposits,
and if you have a term deposit you will know
exactly what Cameron Baggery is getting at when he talks
about the fact that there's a tipping point approaching, so
we're reaching peak term deposit. Basically, balances blew up. You know,

(31:51):
interest rates went high. People through their money. You couldn't
throw it fast enough at the bank to get a
term deposit. From twenty twenty two to twenty twenty five,
they're total term deposits in New Zealand went from one
hundred billion to one hundred and sixty billion over that
three year period. But we're coming down the other side. Obviously,
inflation at two point seven percent going to be three percent.

(32:12):
With a let's say three point eight percent term deposits,
says Cameron Bagger, your after tax return is going to
be a negative number by the time you adjust for inflation.
So the question then becomes, where is all that money
going to go? Where are you going to put it?
Term depositors properties cheap should go up? Do you put
it there? Shares? It's a bullmarket, runaway bullmarket thanks to AI.

(32:34):
Do you put it into equities? What are you going
to do with all that cash once you get it?
N ninety two is the numbers of text. No one.
This is the great mystery. No one actually really knows.
It's all. It's all qualitative data rather than quantitative data,
isn't it so your texts will tell us where those
where that money is going to end up. Coming up

(32:54):
to five o'clock after five, Miles hurrele on one of,
if not the best resist for Fonterra and therefore one of,
if not the best results for New Zealand. That's next
right out for five.

Speaker 21 (33:09):
Yeah, you try to keep me down, trying to bum
me underground burn.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
I'm only going I can hear you.

Speaker 21 (33:19):
Hear my head and when I meant, you're.

Speaker 22 (33:24):
Blown a hole.

Speaker 9 (33:27):
Now skilled telling you where you can go.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
You't pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's
Ryan bridge on hither to pice Ellen dry with one
New Zealand coverage like no one else you saw, said
me good anything.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
The regions will get a double wheremy boost with this
Fonterra result and they profit up over a billion dollars.
Shareholders will get their highest ever total dividend of fifty
seven cents a share for the year, which is great.
Add to the the consumer brand sale. Three out of
the four billion of that is going back to Miles
Harrell is fon Terra's chief executive. With me tonight, Miles
good evening, good edning run, how did you feel about

(34:09):
that result, Oh.

Speaker 23 (34:11):
Superb result.

Speaker 24 (34:12):
Our team have got up and delivered and you know,
please to be able to stand up there this morning and
talk to a farmers and deliver a decent milk price,
but also decent earnings on top.

Speaker 23 (34:19):
So no, overall superb result for the team.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
What are you expecting in the year ahead. I mean,
obviously it's been a great year dairy price wise. What
are you expecting going forward?

Speaker 24 (34:29):
Yeah, So to finish the year ten sixteen, ten dollars
sixteen per kilogram for the last season, and the forecast
the head still remains ten dollars. A second year in
a row forecast of ten dollars, which.

Speaker 23 (34:39):
Is we've never been done before.

Speaker 24 (34:40):
Of course, still a bit of uncertainty out the end
the international market, and we're only in the early early stages,
so a lot of the water to go unto the bridge.
But as we see here today, feel pretty good about
ten dollars for the second year in a row.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
When you say uncertainty, do you mean supply stuff or
trade stuff? For both.

Speaker 23 (34:56):
Mainly trade geopolitics.

Speaker 24 (34:58):
It just it just puts a bit uncertainty in the
minds of buyers whether they be in the US or
throughout Asia. It just puts unsettledness into the market, and
so you know, to buyers sit around and wait a
little bit and does.

Speaker 23 (35:10):
That soften the market?

Speaker 24 (35:11):
But you know, at the same time, you know, we've
got a good product to sell and the customs of
wanting it, so those things balance out I think at
a good ten dollars.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Again, locally, the price of buses obviously been very big
on the minds of consumers. Is it frustrating for you
to hear that debate and to hear the reaction from
some of our politicians.

Speaker 24 (35:31):
Well, I think we should acknowledge. I mean, it has
been tough out there for consumers. In the price of
dairy products has risen in the last twelve eighty months,
caught quite significantly, So we should acknowledge that it has
been tough.

Speaker 23 (35:40):
You know.

Speaker 24 (35:40):
That said, the whole sale Bartter price has probably come
off about fifteen percent actually in the last two months,
so you know, at some point that will flow through
to the supermarkets. I suspect that they'll set their own prices,
but that should flow through and give an element of relief.
But you know, at the end of the day, as
we've said, previously. You know, the international market has been
quite buoyant, which which delivers these returns about to New Zealand.

(36:00):
Unfortunately that that flows through to the markets here.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Why the delay for it to flow through, Well.

Speaker 24 (36:07):
Well, I mean depends on what sort of contracts each
of these supermarkets will have, who they're brought from, over
what periods, where they be quarterly contracts or spot pricing.
So there might be some inventory in the system and
when you go to the supermarket it's there's stock there
that didn't arrive this morning. It might have been there
for us for a few weeks, and so those things
take some time to flow through.

Speaker 23 (36:24):
But you know, as they say, the wholesale price has.

Speaker 24 (36:26):
Come down steadily in the last of a month or two,
and I expect that to flow through to at some point.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Roughly north of four billion for the sale of their
consumer business and three billion going to shareholders, the remainder
being reinvested into.

Speaker 24 (36:41):
What Well, so we have a range of things that
we're looking at, So we haven't made any calls on
that other than we've already got a pipeline of growth
projects out there, including an additional butter capacity we are putting
into into the South Island at some point next year.
So the range of sort of growth projects predominantly for
the export market again, so some of it will go

(37:01):
towards that. We also want to keep a conservative balance sheet,
and it's important in a cooperative position, and we're dealing
an international market to maintain a conservative balance sheet. So
a combination of those things. But at the same time,
you know, we are in a really good position. It
gives us opportunity to explore other alternatives as they come up.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
China, how are you feeling about it? They are obviously
a government, they're trying to stoke consumer demand. It has
been relatively strong for us. How significant is that now
in terms of the business and how significant will it
be going forward?

Speaker 25 (37:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (37:32):
Look, it's still a third of our book, maybe even
slightly more than a third of our book, and we
have been strong, robust demand in the last twelve months. Yeah,
it has come off from where it was two or
three years ago, and I think we've talked about that.
But at the same time, we are still seeing strong demand.
But at the same time, you know, the innovation cycle
is quite fast in China. You've got to continue to
find new products in new markets. And new customers, which

(37:54):
our team in the markets do so feeling good about that.
I think they've they've seen the GDP growth actually start
doing increase again from the slumps they had a year ago,
and so we'll ride the wave of that, but certainly
not back.

Speaker 23 (38:05):
To where it was in twenty twenty three. But we're
in a pretty good position.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I've had text in the show this afternoon miles from
farmers from your suppliers saying we think it's crazy to
sell off and it's not. You know, there is a
range of views, but some saying it's crazy to sell
off part of the company now that it's running well,
value add et cetera.

Speaker 24 (38:21):
What do you say, Well, look, it's running, it's running
a heck a lot better than where it's been in the.

Speaker 23 (38:26):
History of the corp.

Speaker 24 (38:27):
I'd go as far as to say that's said that
still doesn't in our minds get to the cost of
capital that our farmers have invested in. So, you know,
when you operating in a finite resource environment, whether that
be cash or others, you've got to put your your
farmer's capital to things that we're going to get the
best return and consumers still is the lag out of that.
So the economics of it I think are quite clear.

(38:47):
I think you get to the emotional element from our
farmers that are their brands that they've invested in, and
we all understand them. But at the end of the day,
I've got a lot through that and say what's the
right thing to do for the cop well into the
next generation or two.

Speaker 23 (39:00):
We'll take that to farmers the end of October for
a vote.

Speaker 24 (39:02):
We're out on farm next week talking to a range
of farmers to get their views and then to answer
their questions. But you know, we feel confident in our
position going forward, but ultimately files the end of October.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
All right, Myles, appreciate your time tonight, Miles Hant. Congratulations
on the result. Miles Harold, chief executive at Fontira. It
is twelve after five. By the way, I did ask
Miles earlier on this afternoon about the India Free Trade Deal,
because that's the next big I mean, outside of stuff
that you can control as the chief executive of Fonterira,
that would be the next big prize, wouldn't it. He's
not hopeful anytime soon for anything that's comprehensive and would

(39:35):
involve dairy right from today, oil and gas being officially gone,
there's a new faster pathway that's been announced as well
that you can go and explore on. The first application
was actually put in a less than two hours after
the process reopened at midnight, which is good news if
you're in the business. John Carnegie is with US Energy Resources.

Speaker 26 (39:52):
Al Hey John, yep, yeah, good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Do you know who this applicant is? What do we
know about them?

Speaker 26 (40:00):
No, No, that's obviously confidential to the minister in the ministry.
But given the time that they put the application in,
hopefully it's from someone offshore, you'd hope.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
So how worried will they be about labor and the Greens?

Speaker 23 (40:17):
Oh?

Speaker 26 (40:17):
Look, ongoing policy certainty is critical to investors, and so
that will certainly be a factor that investors will weigh
up the likelihood of another policy reversal. And you know
that's just not helpful.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
How long realistically, let's say this applicant is successful, they're
allowed to go and explore. Let's say they find something.
How long realistically between application searching and extracting.

Speaker 26 (40:49):
Well, look, it's interesting because the lengthy timelines proposed by
groups like Greenpeace actually aren't grounded in reality. In fact,
the arithmetic nonsense because even recent history shows that the
fields can be brought to market quickly. And this is
even offshore. Offshore Papakura took six years from discovery to production,

(41:12):
whilst some other offshore developments were as short as free
and onshore. Of course it's even faster. The touring field
was producing within a year. So look where there were
longer delays in the past, that was because of Maui,
a globally significant find which was meeting almost all of
New Zealand's needs at the time. So there was absolutely

(41:33):
no urgency to rush any other developments to market. And
I think the counterpoint line is today's situation is very
very different. We face a significant gap between subfined demands.
We've got energy shortage and that means that any discoveries
would be developed much more quickly to meet that demand.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
John, appreciate your time. John Carnegie's with US energy resources
out here. And it is quarter past five greens obviously
not with that, more on that before five point thirty.
Next we'll talk to the ABS head of the big match,
Eden Park Wallabies on Saturday News Talks b It is
five eighteen. Good to have your company tonight. So we've
got the team naming for the Abs today. Scott Barrett

(42:15):
out with the shoulder injury. That means Ardie is into
the captaincy Cam roy Guard returns to half back Lee
Roy Carter he's moving to the right wing, Caleb Clark
back on the left. All Black's assistant coach Tamothy Ellison
is with MEDA. Good to have you on the show.
How's morale?

Speaker 16 (42:33):
Yeah? Great, looking forward to to getting into it. Expend
on tom coming and.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
In terms of the changes, Roy Guard returns to half back,
Carter moves to the right wing, Caleb Clark back on
the left. What's what is the thinking around some of
these changes?

Speaker 26 (42:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (42:52):
I think Caleb zo he spent near here, physical ball carrier,
got a good try against Counties, educating against can Align
and then Cam was influenceduring that game. So good they
have Campa he's slotted really well. Ruki really confidence, So

(43:13):
it's great to see from.

Speaker 11 (43:14):
Both of them.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Are you worried about what might happen even though it's
in part what might happen given what happened with South Africa.

Speaker 16 (43:22):
I don't. I don't think worries the right word. I
think you prepare every week in your audue respect to
your position and all due respect to to our our
own jewsy in the way we want to play the
game and the adjustments we've made. So I wouldn't say
we've talked about worry.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
How's Scott's shoulder?

Speaker 16 (43:44):
Yeah? Yet what we're to do today? So I'll be
holding at Chilton doing a week, but with them so
well after that, I'm not looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Is anyone. Look, there's a lot of talk about the captain.
See there's a lot of talk about Addie Savia. Obviously
he's taking over in lieu of Scott Barrett. Is it
anything that's been discussed within the team or within the
coaching team?

Speaker 16 (44:10):
You mean leadership, but it's always discussed, that's what you're
talking about. Yeah, we've got great leaders a great leadership
group who you know, who help each other in all
different parts of the weeks. Of different people lead at
different times. Obviously Cody Taylor there back this week, and
Jordi Barrett is another one Pittuck Trooper or two also,

(44:31):
So yes, that's what you mean.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
I meant, I meant, are you considering dropping Scott Barrett
as captain. Oh no, all right, well that answers that Tamosy,
thank you, Tomoty Ellison, who's the all black assistant coach.
Time is five twenty News Talks MB.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
For the name you trumped to get the answers you need,
it's Ryan Bridge on hither duplicy Ellen Drive with one
New Zealand coverage like no one else News Talks.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
It is five twenty three. So this Oil and Gas
Span announcement timing's a little bit awkward for the Greens.
I'll get to that in a second. Basically, what's happened
today is applications have opened across the whole country, land
and sea for the first time since twenty eighteen. The
ban is officially lifted. There's a new market pathway that
the government's announced which will run alongside the usual block

(45:21):
off attender. Basically, it means if you want to apply
to poke around for some oil and gas fields, you
can anywhere any type apply. Being the operative word doesn't
mean it'll happen now. This will sounds good if you're
in the middle of an energy crisis, which we are,
but will the international or even local investment in prospective
actually happen. Well, one application within the space of two

(45:41):
hours would seem to suggest that there's at least some interest,
which is good. Is it all worth it? The Greens
say no. They have said this is igniting a climate
fire today, which they've put out on the same day
that there's this photo of Chloe Swarbrick going viral online.
Have you seen this? The reason it's going viral is
that she's on a plane. She's on a plane to London.

(46:03):
To be more specific, when planes use avgas and that's
fossil fuels. But that's not really why it's gone viral.
It's not just the plane. The co leader of the
Green Party for People and Planet appears to be flying
business class.

Speaker 13 (46:20):
Nothing beats the Jetsu holiday and right now you can
save fifty pounds per person. That's two hundred pounds off
for a family of four.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Now, I say appears because we went to the Greens
today after this has been sent to us a thousand times,
went to the Greens and said, hey, what's going on?
Did Chloe actually fly business class over to London? And
they came back with the statement to say, no, it
wasn't business class, it was premium economy. Is that is

(46:50):
that better? I don't know anyway. Premium Economy apparently on
in New Zealand, and it was paid for. Went there
as part of a mission led by the Insurance Council
of New Zealand to meet with reinsurers, et cetera, et cetera.
They say, climate change is the global issue which requires
global cooperation. Insurance is an important part of managing the
damage that it will cause. She's taken the opportunity to

(47:12):
meet with political leaders, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. The travel, they say,
has been funded by the Insurance Council, so we are
not on the hook for it. So that's the beginning, middle,
and end of that story. Twenty five after five staying
on climate change for just a second, Chi Jinping this
is over in the un Chi Jinpang's big speech and

(47:36):
he uses it to give Trump a good old bash
about climate change. He says, the US is not rising
to the climate challenge, and it's like pot kettle black
because China is the world's largest emitter of CO two
by a long shot. Actually, So what he did is
come out with some cuts to try and soften this,

(47:57):
and he's announced plans to cut him by between seven
and ten percent of their peak by twenty thirty five,
which is a long way from the thirty percent that
the experts reckon that they'll need to get to. It's
more wind, more solar. This is their plan renewable goal
of thirty percent of consumption. That is the Chinese goal
right now. The climate people, as you can imagine is

(48:20):
always the case, not happy with Hi Jinping after his performance.
Also not happy was one Winston Raymond Peters, because he
was trying to get to his dinner last night with
Donald Trump was hosted. It was just canapis and they
were standing around having a chat. But you'd want to
be there, wouldn't you? Traffic? Do they need to move
the un You know? Also how ironic that they're all

(48:41):
inside talking about climate change while outside the street's choking
with big gas guzzlers. Twenty seven after five news talks inb.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
On your smart speaker, on the iHeart app and in
your car on your drive home, it's Ryan Bridge on
either duplicy Ellen drive with one New Zealand and the
power of satellite mobile news talks.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
There being.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Twenty five away from six year on Newstalks and we'll
get to the huddle in just second. Lots of texts
about Chloe Swalbrook in the flight to London. They're now
and from this flight to London, and people have obviously
seen this viral photo online of her sitting in what
appears to be a business class seat, But the Greens
are saying, no, she flew premium economy there. So and
you know, we've got lots of texts. This is one
from rob not premium economy. As an Air New Zealand

(49:40):
very frequent flyer, I can assure you she is very
obviously sitting in business premiere. You can tell from the
angled herringbone seating. Yeah, that's what I thought too, But
we don't know that whether that photo is from this
trip or whether that photo is from another trip. We
also actually don't know that it's definitely her in the photo.
But the Greens didn't say, you know, we told them

(50:01):
while we were asking about the flight, and they didn't say, no,
that it's wrong. So it is a bit odd. It's
a bit odd. But anyway they are saying, they've told
us it was a premium economy and it was paid
for by the insurance council. Lots of texts as well
on the UN and the traffic and the fact that
all the roads are blocks. John Thanking for that text

(50:23):
us that is a big problem obviously because of the
motorcades and lots of people have been there in New
York while the UN leader's meeting is on, and it's chaos.
It is chaos. I went there in twenty thirteen for
one with John Key, and he would walk because they
will walk around the streets because you obviously can't drive anywhere,
and he fell ill. Do you remember John Key used
to faint quite often. There was a he was going

(50:46):
down to Antarctica. The night before he left, he was
at a Chinese restaurant and just fainted. We were told
as a press pack that you've just literally face planted
into his dinner, and I'm assuming it was exult We
never really got to the bottom of why. But he
was doing a lot of travel at the time, and
then over in New York walking along the sidewalk and

(51:08):
he falls, l goes pale as a ghost, runs into
an Irish pub and chunders. Anyway, he was fine, came right,
went to his meetings in the afternoon. But it's a
grueling schedule that you keep as a prime minister, so
I'm not surprised to see them, you know, dropping like
flies twenty three not our Winston, though not our Winston
twenty three minutes away from six Bridge Checondary. Teachers say

(51:32):
there's been a dramatic rise in extremism among high school students,
especially young boys. It includes the spread, they say, of
misogynistic views that are amplified by social media figures like
Andrew Tate. The teacher union wants the government to do
something about the whole thing. Jillianne heather Is, the chief
executive of the Free Speech Union, is on the line
with us tonight. Good evening, Hi Ryan, thanks for having me. Jilane,

(51:56):
what did you make of the comments today from the PPT.

Speaker 27 (52:02):
I was, to be honest, I was a little confused
about the comments. I'm not at all downplaying that there
are issues, that teaching is an incredibly tough and important job,
but it really seemed to be that these were the
ideas that they disagreed with. You know, they sort of
said that classrooms are not ideological battlegrounds, and they wanted

(52:22):
more the government to censor or prohibit certain views, and
clearly with the Free Speech Union, that is absolutely something
we don't advocate for, where we're for more speech, open discourse,
more dialogue, and not censorship of ideas no matter how
bad they are.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
One of the issues that was raised was that there
were boys apparently saying they were pro Trump or Trump
Boys comp supporters, and some girls who were saying that
they wanted to be their career choice would be traditional
wives or trad wives, in other words, staying at home,
raising children, getting married, that kind of stuff. Is there
anything wrong with that?

Speaker 27 (53:04):
You literally are talking to the wrong person, Ryan. Those
are ideas kids are programmed to push back against, you know,
the ideas that the adults hold, the ideas that the generation.

Speaker 6 (53:15):
Before them held.

Speaker 27 (53:16):
I think they were completely legitimate political or vocational ideas
that kids can hold. And what you want to do
if you disagree with those ideas is engage with them,
engage in counter speech, dismantle the ideas, test them, get
them to bring their receipts. You can't censor those ideas, surely.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
What about social media? The other argument here is that
social media is making everything worse. You know, as you
say you're from the Free Speech Union, that's pre speech
and action Jesus pretty ugly.

Speaker 27 (53:48):
Look, I don't disagree with all that social media. The
algorithms can bring out the worst and really amplify the worst.
You know, there are absolute legitimate concerns from many parents
and teachers, and you know, sort of that asymmetrical power
and balance between the tech platforms and kids. But again

(54:08):
we know from history censorship and prohibition just doesn't work.
You drive the ideas underground, you make them more enticing,
you give them that stride and effect. You know, what
you really want to do is engage with these ideas,
or if we're talking specifically about social media, you really
want to engage with more targeted school community education efforts,

(54:29):
enhance media literacy, more discernment and critical thinking skills, you know,
the ability to evaluate the evidence, give parents, give teachers,
and give the kids enhanced skills to deal with social
media because it's not going away.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Juliane appreciate that. Thank you. Julane Head, the chief Executive
Free Speech Union. Time is twenty to six.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
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Speaker 2 (54:54):
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good evening.

Speaker 11 (54:57):
Guys, Hello, good afterday, Allie.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
What did you make of the PPTA thing? Do you
think like there are two issues? One is a child
allowed to have political views, and it's like, obviously yes.
The other is are they being misogynist or saying nasty stuff?
That's another issue altogether. I would have thought, what do
you think?

Speaker 28 (55:19):
I think we.

Speaker 29 (55:20):
Might be complicating it a little. Actually, even after listening
to your interview just then, I think things that people
have found offensive and inappropriate have been around four years.
I do agree that the social media element really is
a completely different kettle of fish from when I was
at school and even you were at school, Ryan, But
I do wonder whether one of the main things missing

(55:41):
these days is role modeling. You know, I kind to
like sponges, and so we talk about giving parents tools,
giving people tools.

Speaker 28 (55:50):
Yes, that's important, but actually I.

Speaker 29 (55:51):
Think it's simpler monkey see monkey do who did their
parents use as role models? Is role modeling or lack
of the issue is that they're going somewhere else because
they don't have that role modeling. And I think we
need to call out bad behavior or we've become the
society where we danse lift our head above the parapet
It's a bit that we'll see, you know that we

(56:12):
don't actually call people out on things when they behave
badly in public.

Speaker 28 (56:15):
So I think there's a lot of stuff like that.

Speaker 7 (56:17):
That we can do that could make a difference.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Do you think I've thought, Nick, we would have gone
the other We've actually gone the other way, where we
are quick to call people out, quick to cancel, quick
to publicly shame online.

Speaker 11 (56:29):
Yes, I think that's right. I mean, I think cooler
heads they needed here. It does interest me. I mean
there are aspects to this reporting that I guess, you know,
some of what is being reported in terms of views
held by kids, you know, I find a bit disturbing.
There's others that I don't. But I don't think banning
or slamming or stopping is the answer. I think we

(56:49):
need cooler heads. I mean, you know, if we're talking
about a particular ideological extremism showing in our schools, it's
often the opposite extreme that's calling it out. And the
truth is, in a society like this, we don't need
a room for both because thee I see extremism on

(57:11):
social media from the left and the right, and we
only ever see these things talking about right wing extremism,
and so I think we need to be very balanced.
And you know, extreme ideas, actually we should tolerate them
where they don't hurt and they don't interfere with other
people's lives. And I think the idea is this sort

(57:31):
of we've got to stop and suppress and prohibit. I
agree with the Free Speech Union in the sense that
when that happens, you do drive it underground. But I
think we've got to be ready for all voices. But frankly, Ryan,
I'm more to the center, and I think that a
strong center is needed, and we are lacking that in
society moment where we pull the best from both sides

(57:53):
and we pull it together and we get on with
each other even when we disagree.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Ellie Jones m Leggan on the Huddle. We'll be back
in just a second.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
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Speaker 2 (58:05):
Estate fourteen to six. Alie Jones and Nick Leggan on
the Huddle tonight. Ellie, the oil and gas ban officially
now has been reversed. They've unfarted. If you will and
the applications are open. They've even had an application fire
and within two hours of it opening, apparently. Do you think,
like when you hear people talk about this, do you

(58:26):
actually believe that it will help solve the energy crunch
that we are and will be experiencing in the coming years.

Speaker 26 (58:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 28 (58:35):
I mean, how many people do know that?

Speaker 29 (58:36):
One of the hardest things here is that this is
where you actually have to trust people.

Speaker 28 (58:41):
And I don't know whether we.

Speaker 29 (58:42):
Should trust politicians per se, but I think we need
to be really sure that we do, in fact have
a gaping hole in New Zealand's medium term energy security.
I don't know that we also need to be sure
that we need to get the sector back to work
to play catch up, as as mister Jones has said,
and I wish mister Jones was speaking in the third person,

(59:04):
but that's for another day. I want to be sure
that the climate cost benefit analysis has been done as well.

Speaker 28 (59:10):
So, like I said, there's a lot of trust here.

Speaker 29 (59:13):
We do need to make sure that we have security
around our energy delivery and availability. But those are questions
I don't know. Nick might know better, he's your infrastructure man.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Yeah, I'm and ask the manufacturers.

Speaker 11 (59:27):
Right, oh exactly. I mean, look, this is about this
is not a long term pitch for New Zealand. It
is exactly as Ali said, It is about shoring us
up so our economy doesn't collapse and we don't force
a whole lot of businesses out of business because they
can't transition, they don't have the investment funds to transition.

(59:50):
In the short to medium term. We do have to
have a longer plan. We do have to actually reduce
our emotions and get to their net zero, but that
is going to take longer, and collapsing the economy in
the short term is going to make us even further
from that reality. So I think this is pragmatic. I
think the other thing to remember here is there is

(01:00:12):
a process. We're not just going to rip the landscape
open and plunder it. There will be a process, and
public opinion will be watching these applications very carefully, as
it should, because we do have to guard against environmental
degradation and we want to balance exploiting what we have

(01:00:36):
in terms of what's on the ground to keep us
going that with it with environmental protection. And I don't
think we're throwing that out the door, but we have
to be careful. But what is at stake is if
we don't know if the lights go off in winter
and we can't power ourselves to keep people warm, to
run industry, to create food people to eat, this country

(01:01:02):
will go downhill faster than any of us have ever
could ever imagine. And that's so what are we doing now? Nick?

Speaker 28 (01:01:09):
What this is?

Speaker 29 (01:01:10):
The other question I want to know is it's all
very well saying that we need this as a bit
of a you know, a temporary This is a we
just got to tread water for a bit while we
sought something out. Who is watching the development of what
we need long term recording on that the.

Speaker 11 (01:01:26):
Larger gen tailors, but also a lot in the private
sector looking at both wind and solar generations. It is
a happening thing. And let's not forget geothermal as well.
There are you know, we've got some regulatory challenges around

(01:01:46):
alternative energy, but those I think will be worked through.
So we've got to trust both the government in terms
of its regulation, the market in terms of the capital
of the expertise that can bring to actually power us up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
So we have they're piling money and the gentails into
renewables at the moment, which is hopefully going to save
the day eventually. In the meantime, Ellie, do we fly
on planes? Do we criticize?

Speaker 29 (01:02:12):
And I was so disappointed with you on this. This
is this gotcha bs? I hate it.

Speaker 28 (01:02:18):
I mean, who cares?

Speaker 29 (01:02:19):
Is she bloody fo flying premium?

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
She screams and yells at everybody else for the oil
and gas exploration or oil and gas.

Speaker 29 (01:02:27):
Yes, maybe she maybe she offset the emissions. She's the
leader of them.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
But they don't like that too. They don't like that either,
because you're not hunting trees in some foreign country.

Speaker 29 (01:02:37):
People are only happy if people who are elected members
MP's local government. If we're wearing fatcloth and ashes, that's
the only thing that seems to make people happy. I
think we have to keep this within reasonable perspective. She
was on a plane somewhere, for god sake, give her a.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Break, all right, Nick. The other was staying with the
airlines for a second. Ryan Air apparently is banning paper
boarding passes. And I'm one of those people who I
am desperate to get my hands on a paperboarding pass.

Speaker 11 (01:03:07):
You want the security of a paper yes, No, I don't.
I want it on my phone. Of course, I'm having
said that I have been at the gate before on
the phone just decides to stop working, and so I'm
holding what you just you just have to step aside
and get your act to you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
What what does that mean? Like go and charge your phone?

Speaker 11 (01:03:32):
Well well, or just let it recover itself. But I'm
a lot. You can prove who you are, you know,
if you're traveling and now you have your passed it
with you. I mean not we can get over these challenges.
I mean, look, it's you know, we make these sort
of steps happen all the time. I mean, what happened
when the world moved away from three G. You know,
like we survived. People screamed, but we survived it. This

(01:03:55):
is the you know, it's a small step, and like
let's just let it happen them and think about.

Speaker 28 (01:04:02):
I don't agree. I don't agree. This is different, right,
going from three G to five G. You still had
a G.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:04:08):
This is saying you don't have.

Speaker 29 (01:04:10):
A paper boarding pass. I use both, and I've had
the same thing happen. When you get to the boarding
gate and your phone's dead, you're absolutely stuffed. Even when
I go to the movies or I go to a show,
I print those out as well, just so I've got
them on me. I think the Ryanie should be doing
what its customers want, and not all customers want to
be or can use a smartphone for God's sake, it's

(01:04:31):
a bit of paper. They need to just suck it
up and deliver what their customers want.

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
I'm with you on that one, Ellie, Thank you. Ellie
Jones read pr nick Legget Infratruction, New Zealand on the
Huddle tonight, seven minutes away from six News Talks. Also,
if you're worried about saving a tiny piece of paper
and then getting on a plane to burn abgas, I mean,
come on, it's like a drop in the ocean, isn't it.

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Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
'b Dame Knowles. It's fine to six on News Talk.
So there be Dame Knowles and the silver Ferns. I mean, yes,
they are doing well, they've won the trophy, but she's
not there and it's all a bit sad really, isn't it.
The Aussie coach Briani Eckles said this about Dame Noles
on the Aussie netbook podcast No Dribble.

Speaker 30 (01:05:14):
The core of Noles is about player first, and I
think that for her, she's been behind the scenes obviously
for the past since Constellation Cup last year, she's been
planning the next two years of two years of what
that looks like leading into a World Cup, come of
Games and Common Cups. So she wants to get back
out there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
She wants to get back out there, of course she does.
She wants to get back in there, and surely they
will bring her back in. Surely. Hey, I've got for you.
Coming up to six o'clock after six, we're going to
talk about nuclear fallout. Apparently most of us want the
government to have some sort of plan should the end
of the world come very quickly. Though, This is the
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Speaker 31 (01:06:29):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
B six, So seven, good evening. Great to have your
company coming up Jamie and Kaye on this Fonterra result
we'll talk mobile coverage for rural New Zealand and we'll
be in the UK within the Brady before top of
the hour as well. If the end of the world
comes tomorrow, and look, let's hope it doesn't, but just
how prepared are we for this? A new survey from
the University of Otago shows more than two thirds of

(01:07:30):
us would like the government to have contingency plans for
worldwide catastrophes. We're talking nuclear fallout, we're talking mass famines,
we're talking deadly diseases. Professor Nick Wilson is the University
of Otaga Department of Public Health. Nick Good evening, Hi, Roight,
So The nuclear fallout thing has always fascinated me, like,
if there was nuclear war in the Northern Hemisphere, then

(01:07:53):
we would have a nuclear winter here. Do we have
anything like a plan to deal with something like that
in New Zealand?

Speaker 7 (01:08:01):
Yeah, unfortunately we have no plans. I mean, back in
the nineteen eighties are actually some very good work by
the New Zealand Planning Council was done in a whole
book with a whole lot of background research was done.
But that's getting somewhat out of date, and so we
really need to update that type of thinking because out
of all the countries in the world, New Zealand's and

(01:08:24):
the top few places that would weather out a nuclear
winter relatively well. I mean it's being surrounded by ocean
has a big modifying effect and being far away from
the Northern Hemisphere as well. But we're really not prepared
for dealing with the trade collapse that would occur. And

(01:08:47):
so although we're a great producer of food, all that
food production relies on diesel, which is important. So we
haven't got a single biofuel refinery that could keep our
agricultural machine going for example.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
So those are the kind of contingencies we need to
be thinking about. I've always been told that the most
realistic or you know, the most likely scenario that would
soon happen would be a blockade of time. One the
time one's straight closers, trade is massively affected for us
and we put out of business.

Speaker 7 (01:09:21):
Yeah, we're a super trade dependent country, and that's good
in terms of efficiency. Is the whole just in time
sort of supply chain thing, but it really if you
have a whole wide range of scenarios, not just regional conflict,
but you know, if there's a big volcanic eruption around Indonesia,

(01:09:44):
that could really interrupt trade. So we just haven't got
the sort of planning that would help us through even
for a few difficult months where we've hardly got any
stored fuel in the country and definitely have no capacity
to produce any for ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
Well, good thing we're digging from drilling for it.

Speaker 7 (01:10:05):
Well, electricity is a more reliable sort of energy source.
So the progress that's been done on electrification is actually
a bright spot in our resiliency preparations.

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
But if we have if the let's say nuclear winter,
then you don't see the sun, do you.

Speaker 7 (01:10:24):
Well, there's been a lot of sophisticated modeling done on this,
and nuclear winter is an absolute disaster for the northern
hemisphere where where you know, honestly billions of people could die.
But here in New Zealand's it would be reduced crop yields,
but we'd still have plenty of food and we've done

(01:10:48):
some research on that, so it would be tough, but
you know, we'd still have enough food to feed ourselves
and recover.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
And then I suppose would everybody try and come here,
that would be your next problem, wouldn't that.

Speaker 7 (01:11:02):
Yeah, there's all these sort of things that need to
be thought through. Though New Zealand is one of the
remotest places, and you know most refugees would probably try
and go to a closer place like Australia. But you know,
you know, these simple things which you know can be
worked through and planned for, there's just been nothing done.

(01:11:24):
And the same for volcanic winters, where we know that
these occur because there's been multiple ones over the last
two thousand years, and they could also reduce sunlight and productivity,
and we have no plans a TOWRK nuclear for volcanic winter.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
Nick in your survey, did you ask people what they're
most scared of, what sort of math casualty event they're
most worried about.

Speaker 7 (01:11:51):
No, these were just a few questions in a larger survey,
but it did show that people were interested in some
type of planning, but also in having a commission or
an agency that could monitor and report on these type
of risks because some of these risks, their profile is

(01:12:11):
changing quite rapidly. You know, the risk of nuclear war
may be going up definitely. The concern about bioengineered pandemics
is going up with improvements in biotechnology and artificial intelligence.
So we really need to keep our eye on the
ball on what's happening so we can be as best
prepared as possible.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Nick, appreciate your time, Professor at Wilson University of O Target,
Department of Public Health. Time is twelve after six News
Talk ZB we'll get to Jamie McKay with a ribal update.

Speaker 3 (01:12:41):
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We'll get to Jamie McKay from the country in just
the second first Winston Peter is not mincing his words
in a very Winston way. This is how he described
his feelings about missing that function host by Donald Trump
last night in New York.

Speaker 32 (01:13:01):
You don't blow anything, so brother rushed off about it
and sorry about that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
That's the where life goes.

Speaker 32 (01:13:07):
I might be able to make up for a frow girl.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
It was all the road closures. That's Scott in his way.

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
In this game.

Speaker 32 (01:13:13):
With the experience. You you get very good at one oh one.
You don't let things go wrong, and it was avoidable.
But when you've got hours of traffic jams, you might
think that's an excuse. But my book, no, you had
to get there, so we just didn't make it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:27):
Didn't make it and not stoked.

Speaker 32 (01:13:30):
If I'd have known that that was even a possibility,
I have had different arrangements.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
You might remember that this has actually happened before. He's
sort of reflecting on what happened last time.

Speaker 32 (01:13:39):
Well, no, but last time we go blocked from even
leaving the place, because this is an awful place to
be in this week in the UN's.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Affairs, hoping he can sort something out to actually get
some FaceTime maybe or even get him the same room
as Donald Trump and those that influence him who traveled
with him it's just gone sixteen after six.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Jamie mckaie hosted the Country with Me evening. Jamie good Ay, Ryan,
great result for Fonterra today.

Speaker 15 (01:14:12):
Yeah, fantastic result. And I heard you talking to Miles
Hurrel just after five o'clock. I chatted to him on
my show today and yeah, look, it's a great result.
Literally every number is good. But I just did a
wee bit of interesting homework around the Fonterra co op
share price. Now, these are the shares that the farmers
have to buy to supply milk to Fonterra. They finished

(01:14:36):
the day trading at six dollars ten. They were up
ten cents this time. A year ago they were three
dollars seventy five. But if you go back to their
real low point all time low seventeenth of November twenty
twenty three, less than two years ago, they were two
dollars and three cents, Meaning in less than two years

(01:14:57):
the price of Fonterra co op shares have gone up
by three hundred percent, or exactly three times. Interestingly, when
I went back further in time, the high of all
time for Fonterra shares was way back in May twenty
thirteen when they were eight dollars. So I know there's

(01:15:17):
a big vote coming up on October the thirtieth for
Fonterra Farmer shareholders. They have to make their mind up
whether they take the three point two billion dollars from
the four point two billion they're going to get from
the sale, or Fonterra is going to get from the
sale off like Talis. But I think pretty much it's
a done deal. That's what I'm hearing anyhow, And some

(01:15:40):
of that money will be used to repay shares. Perhaps
some of them Ryan might have even bought their shares
and May twenty thirteen at eight dollars, so who knows.
But for those who bought them a couple of years
ago November twenty twenty three, they've done very well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:54):
Indeed, it's interesting reading the results today and kind of
having a harm moment about the fact that their profit
was actually down slightly. But then that's because their costs
are up because they're buying the milk, which is obviously
at very high prices.

Speaker 15 (01:16:08):
Yeah, well, they don't always make more money when the
milk price is up because their ingredient is more.

Speaker 23 (01:16:12):
I think some of that profit story.

Speaker 15 (01:16:15):
They're also paying a week at more tax. But a
number that Miles didn't mention to you met. We've got
the milk price at ten dollars sixteen, we've got the
forecast milk price at ten dollars. But the dividend, Okay,
that's the yield they get on their shares. So you
buy a share today, you're going to on this year's

(01:16:35):
on this year's dividend, get a fifty seven cent per
share dividend fully imputed. That means it's tax paid. It's
the equivalent to about seventy nine cents, and that's up
from about fifty five cents yesterday. So that is a
very good yield on your Fonterra share. If you're a
farmer supplying Fonterra, you and I Ryan, and you're paid

(01:16:59):
a lot more than I am because you're a star
at z B, we could go onto the shear market
and buy Fonterra shares and the shareholders fund today, Ryan,
we should have bought them yesterday. They went from seven
to forty five up to seven ninety, up forty five cents,
an increase on six percent, So the market obviously like
the Fonterra results today.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Absolutely what's not to like? Hey, what's going on? Strong
wool actually worth something all of a sudden, Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:17:27):
Suck, horror, Look this is they Look. The arable farmers
are having a wee bit a tough time, and some
of the horticulture farmers, like the avocado growers, having a
bit of a battle as well in some cases. But
generally across the board, things are really good. Red meat's good,
dairries really good, Kiwi fruit's good, Apples are good. Strong

(01:17:50):
wool has been, you know, has been the naughty child
if you want of primary sector returns. It's been worth
literally nothing. It's cost you more to share your sheep
than you get for your wall check. But today at
the South Island sale the strong wall indicator was up
forty six cents. They had a ninety eight percent clearance

(01:18:13):
And some of the commentary was interesting from a guy
by the name of Dave Burrett who's the South Island
auction manager for PGG Rights, and he said significant global
shortages of all wall types has prompted levels of demand
at the Christchurch Wall Exchange not seen in a generation.
Bidding at times was extreme, with buyers having to fill

(01:18:35):
immediate orders into China. A major Australian based wall exporting
company dominated the floor for most of the fine wall,
which has been going okay, it's been the strong crossfed
wall that's been the issue. So happy days for farming today.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Ryan, absolutely, although it looks can be deceiving parts of
the country dealing with the green drought.

Speaker 15 (01:18:56):
Well that's the beauty of being a farmer. You can't
control the weather, but you can't control commodity prices, you
can't control exchange rates. They're all out of your control.
But yeah, look it's been a bit of a tough
September for many. It's been cold and wet down south
where I am on the east coast of both islands,

(01:19:17):
like almost from Dunedin north it's getting quite dry. Areas
like one or two Taranaki especially one or two are
getting very dry. And it's also been cold, I mean,
hit by a lot of cold Southwesterlys. So what they're
kind of having in some places, especially in the North Island,
is a bit of a green drought. Other parts of
the country, the further north you go, have had more rain.

(01:19:39):
But I just think that's farming you just got to
take what the weather gods give.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
You, absolutely and hope for the best. Jamie, thank you.
Jamie mckaye hosted the Country with Us twenty two minutes
after six News Talks. He'd be we've got some re
renews next on showbiz think whether.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
It's Macro MicroB or just plain economics.

Speaker 1 (01:19:56):
It's all on the Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and
Mars for Insurance Investments and Kili Safer.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
You're in good hands us Dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
V six twenty four on your six twenty five, I
should say, on your Thursday evening, let's get to some showbiz,
shall we? Show bears, we have another future NEPO baby
born today. Rihanna has welcomed her third child.

Speaker 12 (01:20:21):
It's a girl.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Congratulations Rihanna. Her name is Rocky Irish Myers. So let's
break this down a little bit. First of all, it's
Rocky with a not with a y, but with an eye,
so Rocky with an eye. Also the stage name of
her husband asat Rocky, so I guess that's where it's
come from. We've got a bit of a will and
Jada Willow Jaden situation going on here. Irish is where

(01:20:45):
you get a little bit stumped. No one can really
explain that one to us. Then there's Myers, which is
of course the last name of her husband asat Rocky.
His real name is rakeem Myers. Rihanna's real name. Bit
of trivia for you, if you're at the pub quiz
is Robin Fenti. I can see why you get rid
of Robin, but Fenti's quite cool. Fans very happy that

(01:21:06):
ree Re finally has a baby girl after her two
previous kids, Riot and Rizza. Our z a is how
it's spelt, so Rizza, Riot and Rocky. They're finally starting
to accept that she's not going to make an album
anytime soon. She's a bit busy now. I'm a bit
confused by the R thing because all the babies have

(01:21:30):
ours and the Kardashians do it with the k's. Do
you not get your children confused? This is not easier
to get your children confused, because I know in one
of three boys, my mum had enough trouble, you know, Sean,
I mean Ryan, You're you know which one's in trouble.
And when they're a bit stressed, it's even worse. So
if everyone's has do you know, has anyone named their

(01:21:50):
kids with the same letter at the stage, it just
seems to me a very confusing thing to do. You're
asking for trouble. Anyway. We'll leave you with some Rihanna
as we come up to news when we get back,
will look at how far and wide mobile coverage goes
in rural New Zealand and get to the UK with
ind Brady before Top of the art News TALKSI.

Speaker 21 (01:22:09):
You're done, you talk, that's why you gave me way
that your boy and where your do.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
Everything from SMS to the big corporates, The Business Hour
with Ryan Bridge and MES for insurance Investments and Hueye
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Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
News Talks d B.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Everything New Talks it B. It is twenty five away
from seven. We'll get to some sheep and beef. Farmer
forecast for you in a second. First though, more than
a third of farmers say their mobile coverage has actually
gotten worse in the past year and it's affecting both
their work and their safety. Only fifty seven percent of

(01:23:14):
farmland gets coverage with no improvement since twenty twenty two.
Fed Farmer's telecommunications spokesperson Mark Hooper is with me now, Hey, Mark,
good evening, were any idea why it's getting worse.

Speaker 33 (01:23:29):
I would say that that's probably a pretty technical question.

Speaker 25 (01:23:34):
I mean, it's probably relates to loading capacity and all
of that sort of thing. But I guess that's.

Speaker 33 (01:23:40):
Probably one of the key takeaways for us is that
there's obviously some technical challenges in that space. And one
of the reasons that we ran this survey at this
point in time is to.

Speaker 25 (01:23:52):
Get a bit of a baseline. Again, what was a
check in, because as.

Speaker 11 (01:23:55):
He mentioned, this has changed since twenty twenty.

Speaker 33 (01:23:57):
Two, which we lasted the survey, so that was surprise
in the first instance, but also coming up in twenty
six we've got the sunsetting or closure of the three
Genie group and so potentially it could be lose. So
we're just trying to get a good handle on what
the situation is and hopefully look for some technical solutions.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
It's it's quite apt that your line is a little
dodgy with us. Mark. Hey, you said thirteen percent still
using three G. That's pretty serious stuff because it is
coming to an end.

Speaker 25 (01:24:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's right.

Speaker 33 (01:24:36):
And you know, there's there's both that aspect to it
in terms of you know, needing to change devices and stuff,
and perhaps people are still using those older devices because
they get better coverage from them. But also there's you know,
there's also the yet to be identified I guess in

(01:24:58):
terms of what happens when they're closes down. Does that
improve the four G five G coverage? Some say yes,
some say no. So again, technical issues there that have
to be worked through, and so we're just trying to
get a bit of a baseline handle on what the
situation is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
What about starlink mark Lots of people are texting and
saying get starlink.

Speaker 33 (01:25:16):
Yeah, yeah, And so obviously we've seen a significant improvement
or uptake there of satellite services.

Speaker 25 (01:25:25):
And I think I think this kind of plays.

Speaker 33 (01:25:27):
Into the bigger picture here because on the one hand,
you've got, as we've seen, relatively patchy and limited cell
phone coverage in areas, But simultaneously a lot of those
same people are experiencing or facing the decommissioning of the
copper network.

Speaker 25 (01:25:45):
And there's still.

Speaker 33 (01:25:46):
Forty percent that we're on a using a Copper landline,
and so that's quite high. Eighty percent of those didn't
have an alternative in place yet or any idea what
they're all two it would be. So there's quite a
transition happened there, and that kind of just escalates the
concerns I think that people have because you know, they

(01:26:08):
look at it and say, well, I've got really poor
cell phone coverage. Why they're cutting off my comp network.
Obviously they're different providers, but you know, it just adds
to that sense of isolation and concern.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
I totally understand the feeling mark, but is there what
do you say to people who will listen to this
and go, well, you know you are living really there
are fewer people. Therefore the investment, you know, from an
economic perspective, may not just be worth it.

Speaker 33 (01:26:35):
Yeah, I think if we take a holistic there is
actually quite a lot of good technology available as replacements,
particularly for the landline and internet services, and it's inevitable.

Speaker 25 (01:26:53):
That change is coming in that space. So that process
is very much underway.

Speaker 33 (01:26:59):
It's really of just making sure that people have access
to good advice, that they can get.

Speaker 34 (01:27:04):
An independent source of automation, they can understand what their
options and also you know what the pros and cons are.
One of the things I guess, just to come back
to that stale in question.

Speaker 33 (01:27:17):
You know, one of our concerns is that we've got
a lot of good small.

Speaker 25 (01:27:22):
New Zealand based businessess.

Speaker 34 (01:27:25):
You know, while listen tonet service providers do some really
good work in our communities and.

Speaker 33 (01:27:31):
It's easy just to say, yes, starlink does a great job.

Speaker 25 (01:27:36):
But you know, should I give my one hundred and.

Speaker 34 (01:27:38):
Fifty nine dollars a month to space?

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
Should try and get it into a local one? Yeah? Hey, Mark,
we will have to wrap it up there. Unfortunately, and
ironically the line is pretty bad for you. It's Mark
Hooper speaking fed Farmer's Telecommunications spokesperson, having trouble with our telecommunications.
It is twenty away from seven on News Talks. There
be lots of people are texting in about one in
Z and I've heard of this well, we've actually spoken

(01:28:01):
about this on the show before. This person says they
could join one en Z. They use starlink for non
reception zones. It is only text at the moment, so
you can Basically it means you can send a text
from anywhere, which is good, but eventually it should roll
out to calls at some stage as well. Twenty away
from seven News Talk SEDB.

Speaker 3 (01:28:21):
If it's to do.

Speaker 1 (01:28:22):
With money, it matters to you the Business Hour with
Ryan Bridge and mass for Insurance Convestments and Huey Saber
You're in good hands.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
News Talks EDB seventeen to seven News TALKSB. We'll get
to the UK in just a second. Lots of text
on the rural connectivity and how you make phone calls
if you're out the back of a farm. This is
from a mobile network tower builder. Three G switch off
when it happens, which is going to be next year,
coverage is going to be replaced with four G voice,

(01:28:52):
this person says on Starlink on one en Z will
be an absolute game changer the call mixers, mobile and
broadband services. So there you go, let's get to I
found this really interesting because everyone's saying, well, no, there
are lots of people saying, what is Winston going to
do on the weekend re Palestine or is it just
a few people. Anyway, he's going to make a statement

(01:29:14):
about Palestine and whether New Zealand will recognize the state
of Palestine or not. And I am of the mind
that he will do the latter and not. I think
he will do something like and you could do worse
than what the Singaporean Foreign Minister has said at the
UN have a listen.

Speaker 35 (01:29:33):
Let me step opposition as off today. We will recognize
the state of Palestine when it has an effective government
that accepts Israel's right to exist and categorically renounces terrorism.

Speaker 2 (01:29:51):
Also some targeted sanctions, not unlike the ones that we
have already done.

Speaker 35 (01:29:56):
Singapore will impose targeted sanctions the leaders of radical right
wing settler groups or organizations that have been responsible for
acts of violence against Palestinians in the West Bank. If
the situation continues the deteriory, or if Israel takes further
steps to extinguish a two stage solution, we will reconsider

(01:30:19):
our position on recognizing a Palestinian state.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
That is the Sorry the Foreign Minister for Singapore talking
about Palestine at the UN. It's quarter to seven Ryan
Bridge in a Brady Are, UK correspondent with us now
in the good evening.

Speaker 6 (01:30:35):
Hey, Ryan, good evening to you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:37):
So is one of the other room is true or
not starting going to face a leadership challenge from within
the party?

Speaker 6 (01:30:44):
I think he is. The rumors have been gathering pace
for a couple of weeks. Now Labor Party conference coming
in a matter of days. Step forward, Andy Burnham. He
is Labor to the core, a former MP. This is crucial.
He's not an MP right now. He is mayor of
Manchester and by all accounts he's doing a very very
good job. Now I know Andy Barnum, he's a very

(01:31:06):
formidable speaker, he's a good communicator in the media and
people like him and he has a big power base
in the North of England. Now he has strategically given
a couple of interviews in the last twenty four hours,
appointedly saying that the Labor Party is run factionally, that
the leadership is divisive, so a lot of criticism of

(01:31:27):
Starmer here, and saying that the country needs a plan,
so does the Prime Minister not have a plan? That
is the inference and a lot of people around Starmer
are starting to think that if he doesn't get his
act together, they may not win the next election in
four years time. Now it's not an easy path to
number ten for Andy Burnham. He would have to resign
as mayor with Manchester, he would then have to find

(01:31:48):
someone to give up their seat so that he could
run and become an MP and then get in that
way and formally challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Starmer fascinating stuff. So yeah, yes, you say, very difficult,
much easier to roll a leader and the Considers than
it is the libor Paddy Right, So how does it
all actually work?

Speaker 6 (01:32:06):
Yeah, you're right, the Conservatives nice people in the back
twenty four to seven. I mean, the well Badenoch will
be gone by Christmas. It is what I'm hearing. And
look it's a it's a different beast. But you've got
the union mechanism as well in Labor. It's yes, it's
much more difficult to roll out an incumbent leader in
the Labor Party than it is with the Conservatives. But nevertheless,

(01:32:29):
I think Andy Burnham is making his pitch because I
haven't seen him do any interviews for a few weeks
and out of nowhere, he's all over the front pages today.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Interesting stuff. How the parking industry in the UK apparently
quite the employer.

Speaker 6 (01:32:45):
Have a guess. Just just just bear with me on
this one, Ryan, How many people do you think are
working as parking wardens in the United Kingdom this morning?

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
You got a it's an unfair question, We'll have a stab.

Speaker 6 (01:33:01):
One hundred thousand, eighty two thousand. I mean, it's absolutely
staggering they've turned it into a four point six billion
en Z dollar industry. Think about that four point six
billion dollars this between parking charges and the fines, and
the follow ups and the double ups when you don't
pay the fine on time, it is outrageous. Now, just

(01:33:23):
to put that figure in context, eighty two thousand people
employed in the parking industry that are currently under seventy
four thousand soldiers in the British Army. There are more
parking wardens than soldiers in a country that has a
permanent seat on the UN Security Council. It is parking mad.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
Because your population is about seventy million. Yes, I'm just
trying to think of how most of ours here in
New Zealand are now done by cars. At least in Oakland,
you don't have mini parking wardens at all. It's cars
that have got cameras on them that drive around and
neb you now, And.

Speaker 6 (01:33:59):
Yeah, technology, look, we will eventually catch up. But right now,
I guess it's an industry that just keeps making more
and more money. And what really frustrates me is just
how kind of binary they are. I got a parking
fine a couple of weeks ago. I'd ended up doing
a double shift because a colleague went ill and I

(01:34:19):
had to stay in the studio. I park in the
same and this is all paid for byapp and it's
eighteen dollars to park there. And I park in the
same parking spot at the same time in the same
car park every day of the week. And don't tell
me the tech You know that they couldn't just say, oh,
this is a loyal customer here, not one hundred and
twenty dollars fine two days later.

Speaker 2 (01:34:40):
Oh that hurts. Hey, how much is the government giving
foreign criminals who volunteer for deportation?

Speaker 6 (01:34:48):
Would you believe this? Four thousand dollars pre loaded onto
a banking cart as they leave the United Kingdom? Now
this has been confirmed by the new Home Secretary, should
ban my mood says that on the face of it, it
doesn't look good giving criminals four thousand dollars or two
thousand pounds to go, she said, but if you'd look
into the money figures, keeping them in jail for a

(01:35:10):
year is costing about one hundred thousand dollars. So her
idea and what the government is doing is that once
they've served three months of a sentence. If they agree
to be deported, they will be led out early and
then put on a flight back to say a country
like Romania or Albania, and given four thousand dollars pre
loaded on a bankyard on the proviso that you know
you're out and you ain't coming back.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
Good luck with that. Goodness mate in the thank you
in the Brady a UK correspondent, and everyone wants to
leave New Zealand great place. It's ten to seven News
Talk zimb It's.

Speaker 1 (01:35:43):
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Speaker 2 (01:35:50):
Out to seven News Talk Zibby. We've done enough about
deary today, so let's get to shaping beef shaven by
FAMI is forecasting an average profit of one hundred and
sixty six thousand this year. This compeares to just eighteen thousand,
nine hundred they got two years ago. Last year it
was up to one hundred and thirty eight thousand, six
hundred on average, the profit before tax rising another twenty
percent this year. Sheep and beef farms expected to generate

(01:36:14):
seven point two billion on farm value this season alone.
Estimated fifteen million is spent on goods and services every day.
This is your fencing contractors, your sharers, your vets, your
machinery dealers, all of that stuff that keeps rural New
Zealand going spend. Will see a boom for small town
South Island businesses, in particular in these roles. Beef and lamb.

(01:36:35):
New Zealand forecasting ten and a half billion in red
meat exports this season plus two billion from co products,
which is great news all round, great news from rural
New Zealand on all fronts. Even wool today so very good.
It is seven away from seven. Joe Rogan on his
podcast over in the US, come out because there's a
lot of people who and Joe, you'd probably say leans

(01:36:57):
to the right. A lot of people, I'm great, have
come out and said the Jimmy Kimmel canceled mob is ridiculous,
and you can't have it both ways. Either your full
free speech or you're not full free speech.

Speaker 36 (01:37:10):
First of all, I definitely don't think that the government
should be involved ever in dictating what a comedian counter
cannot say in a monologue. And if people on the
right are like, yeah, go get them, oh my god,
you're crazy You're crazy for supporting this because this will
be used on.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
You couldn't agree more. Six to seven. Let's check him
with Libby. What are we going out to tonight? Libby?

Speaker 37 (01:37:34):
This is going to make some people feel very old,
but I'm taking us out on a bit of Muse
with their supermassive black hole because it was featured in
the Twilight movie and Twilight the book turns twenty years
old today.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
Right, so I'm feeling old about that. I didn't think
it's Twilight, the one with Robin Robert Pattison.

Speaker 11 (01:37:54):
It is.

Speaker 37 (01:37:55):
No, he's in the movie.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
So that was twenty years ago.

Speaker 37 (01:37:58):
The book was twenty years ago. Did you read the book?

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Didn't read the book? Didn't see the film?

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
I'm not into that stuff. It's some sort of were wolf,
isn't it? Or vampires? Yeah? Okay, so twenty years old.
The book today, and Muse for your Thursday evening.

Speaker 12 (01:38:14):
We'll see you tomorrow.

Speaker 22 (01:38:18):
SUPs Si Son Sis The Son of Si.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
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