October 6, 2025 • 3 mins
There's no further movement on the Silver Ferns coaching saga front.
Netball New Zealand and Dame Noeline Taurua are stuck in mediation with no resolution in sight.
Sportstalk host Jason Pine outlines the situation - and wonders if Taurua will want to return.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jason Pine sports talk hosters with us Piney Hello, Hello Heather. Okay,
what happens now for Dame Noles?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I don't think she's coming back, do you? I don't
not see her way back. I don't see her way
back for Dame noleing Toto in hour Fanny.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hasn't she been benched for the rest of the year
and then her contracts up early next year anyway.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
No, I think contract goes past the Commonwealth Games next year.
So yeah, so she does have a bit of time
left on a contract, but you're right, she's not going
to take the team this year. They've spent the last
week trying to knut this out around a mediation table
and clearly haven't been able to reach agreement or even
compromise on a couple of things, or maybe more than
a couple of things. Jenny Wiley on the radio yesterday
(00:42):
with me didn't even confirm that they were going to
continue mediation. So I don't quite know where we go
from here. It just seems as though there's no meeting
point in the middle.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, isn't the clue in the fact that the Players
Association said that they've got nothing to do with us
anymore because it's now an employment matter, and you know
what an employment matter means, means someone's getting sacked.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, I think a lawyer's lawyers sit around to come
up with a number, don't they That that feels to
me what happens in matters like this Without wanting to
depersonalize this too much, and it must have been very
stressful for Dame Nolean, for everybody else involved in the process,
for the players, I mean, now we've got a divided
playing group as well, Heather. You know there are players
in that group who have openly Grace Wiki for one,
Karen Berger for another, backed Dame Nolen and want her back.
(01:24):
There are others in that group who clearly would rather
have somebody else at their helm. So look, it's a
divided team with a few issues to work through. They've
got games against Australia coming up, which are never easy
at the best of times, and still no resolution in sight,
whether it be a you know, a departure for Dame
Noles or what we do. So it's just an absolute
(01:44):
mess now here. I think.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I think Piney that there are going to be real
questions about Jenny Wiley and maybe even I don't know
the board after this, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I think so. I think you oversee something like this.
Questions have to be then asked of you, don't It's
the CEO's job to implement the strategy set out by
the board. But this feels like an operational matter to me.
This is a a if we again related across a workplace.
I think if you or I were having an employment dispute,
(02:14):
we wouldn't be before the board, would We would be
before our manager or you know. So it feels operational.
So yes, I think the way it's been handled, the
lack of transparency in particular, certainly has to be questioned.
And yeah, questions do need to be asked.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
What I'm suggesting to you is I think that their
jobs are on the line. I think Jenny Wiley's job
is on the line here as well, depending on how
hard people want to push on her. Because if you
listen to Evon Willering, the netball community is angry at.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Her, and the widest sporting community too. Netball has now
been tarnished with a really really bad brush and Look,
I think you're absolutely right. I think the way that
this has been handled has been suboptimal, and that's probably
putting it nicely. So yeah, I think you do have
to have to have that examination when this process runs
its course.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So have we got the faith and the all blacks?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Now? Y jeorde?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I it was an ambivalent, wasn't it. Look I enjoyed
parts of Saturday night, enjoyed the fact we won, enjoyed
the fact we've got the bonus point, enjoyed the fact
that Quinte Pyre looks like a very very good proposition
at center. I need to see more evidence. I think
if they sweep the Grand Slam part of the year Island, Scotland, England, Wales,
then I think we can say, hey, they are headed
in the right direction, but we probably need a greater
(03:27):
body of work.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
First, listen, you're a tough You're tough, a Piney, you
are tough. Appreciate your time, mate. That's Jason Pine Sports
Talk Post seven o'clock tonight here on news Talk ZIBI.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to
news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio,
Stored with tab in play bet with real time odds
and stats are eighteen bet Responsibly.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Jason Pine sports talk hosters with us Piney Hello, Hello Heather. Okay,
what happens now for Dame Noles?
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I don't think she's coming back, do you? I don't
not see her way back. I don't see her way
back for Dame noleing Toto in hour Fanny.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Hasn't she been benched for the rest of the year
and then her contracts up early next year anyway.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
No, I think contract goes past the Commonwealth Games next year.
So yeah, so she does have a bit of time
left on a contract, but you're right, she's not going
to take the team this year. They've spent the last
week trying to knut this out around a mediation table
and clearly haven't been able to reach agreement or even
compromise on a couple of things, or maybe more than
a couple of things. Jenny Wiley on the radio yesterday
(00:42):
with me didn't even confirm that they were going to
continue mediation. So I don't quite know where we go
from here. It just seems as though there's no meeting
point in the middle.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well, isn't the clue in the fact that the Players
Association said that they've got nothing to do with us
anymore because it's now an employment matter, and you know
what an employment matter means, means someone's getting sacked.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Well, I think a lawyer's lawyers sit around to come
up with a number, don't they That that feels to
me what happens in matters like this Without wanting to
depersonalize this too much, and it must have been very
stressful for Dame Nolean, for everybody else involved in the process,
for the players, I mean, now we've got a divided
playing group as well, Heather. You know there are players
in that group who have openly Grace Wiki for one,
Karen Berger for another, backed Dame Nolen and want her back.
(01:24):
There are others in that group who clearly would rather
have somebody else at their helm. So look, it's a
divided team with a few issues to work through. They've
got games against Australia coming up, which are never easy
at the best of times, and still no resolution in sight,
whether it be a you know, a departure for Dame
Noles or what we do. So it's just an absolute
(01:44):
mess now here. I think.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I think Piney that there are going to be real
questions about Jenny Wiley and maybe even I don't know
the board after this, don't you think?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
I think so. I think you oversee something like this.
Questions have to be then asked of you, don't It's
the CEO's job to implement the strategy set out by
the board. But this feels like an operational matter to me.
This is a a if we again related across a workplace.
I think if you or I were having an employment dispute,
(02:14):
we wouldn't be before the board, would We would be
before our manager or you know. So it feels operational.
So yes, I think the way it's been handled, the
lack of transparency in particular, certainly has to be questioned.
And yeah, questions do need to be asked.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
What I'm suggesting to you is I think that their
jobs are on the line. I think Jenny Wiley's job
is on the line here as well, depending on how
hard people want to push on her. Because if you
listen to Evon Willering, the netball community is angry at.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Her, and the widest sporting community too. Netball has now
been tarnished with a really really bad brush and Look,
I think you're absolutely right. I think the way that
this has been handled has been suboptimal, and that's probably
putting it nicely. So yeah, I think you do have
to have to have that examination when this process runs
its course.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
So have we got the faith and the all blacks?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Now? Y jeorde?
Speaker 1 (03:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
I it was an ambivalent, wasn't it. Look I enjoyed
parts of Saturday night, enjoyed the fact we won, enjoyed
the fact we've got the bonus point, enjoyed the fact
that Quinte Pyre looks like a very very good proposition
at center. I need to see more evidence. I think
if they sweep the Grand Slam part of the year Island, Scotland, England, Wales,
then I think we can say, hey, they are headed
in the right direction, but we probably need a greater
(03:27):
body of work.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
First, listen, you're a tough You're tough, a Piney, you
are tough. Appreciate your time, mate. That's Jason Pine Sports
Talk Post seven o'clock tonight here on news Talk ZIBI.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
For more from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to
news Talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio,
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