The Foreign Minister's reiterated his calls for a ceasefire in Gaza on the second anniversary of Hamas' attack on Israel.
Winston Peters addressed Parliament this afternoon, also calling for the release of hostages held by Hamas, and for Israel to allow aid into Gaza unimpeded.
Newstalk ZB political correspondent Barry Soper says Peters went on to defend the Government's call to not recognise a Palestinian state amid ongoing backlash from the opposition.
LISTEN ABOVE
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bary Sober, senior political correspondence with that's Alobari afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hither I hope we do get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yeah, oh no, and we will. In fact, I'm going
to cut you shorts to be able to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Tell me about this debate on the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, it was Whenceton Peters came into the house and
as a minister's able to do, said he wanted to
make a statement on the Middle East, which means other
parties can reply to it. So he was marking the
occasion of two years ago today was Hummus invaded Israel
and twelve hundred people were killed and others taken hostage,
(00:34):
and the likes was terrible. And I remember at the
time saying, I hope they get rid of Hummits, but
not to the extent that the Israelis have gone to
to get rid of Hummits. But anyway, Peter's faced off
against labor as foreign a fear spokesman Penny Henare here.
He is followed by Henare.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
One irony here. They will not be lost on Meni's
illness is that the very protesters and the supporters who
believe we must break off diplomatic relations with Israel are
receiving consular assessors because we did not do that, and
they wish to break off dipmatic lations with everwel Nevertheless,
Another only is that three private individuals freely chose to
place themselves in a dangerous situation, but now expect their
(01:12):
government to bail them out. We'll do exactly that, not
least because the government feels a sense of responsibility even
for those who act utterly irresponsibly.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
When history calls, a true leader will answer. On Palestine,
the Prime Minister has let the call go unanswered. The
decisiveness that has been demonstrated by other countries only reinforces,
that is, the expectation that the peace plans proposed by
the United States must be fully implemented before this government
will recognize Palestine as a state.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
There are fundamental things here that other countries might have
changed because of enormous pressure back home. So what happens
tomorrow after you make that decision?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Right?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
What changes? And so we make this speechure in that
a nation where all this recognition changed. Nothing until Trump
alongside Saudi Arabia and got together a piece plan.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
And we hope it works.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I think we can all agree with that, Heather. But yeah,
it was an interesting debate because it traversed the whole
of the thing, and of course the beginning of that
was all about the flotilla. And I see another two
New Zealanders are on their way here as well. But
I heard Winston say earlier, he didn't say it in
the speech, but the three that have been taken in
(02:24):
by the Israelis will be transported to Jordan, and it
sounds as though they might be on their own there
to get back to this country.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's very much I'd like that. Yeah, Look, I don't
think the Greens come out of this Winston Peter's protest
situation at his house looking very good.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, they don't, and you know, to demonstrate the way
they have, I mean, it's not the first time Winston
Peter's place has been attacked by protesters. I can't remember
when it was, but there was red paint splashed all
over the place and stickers put up that Winston had
to take takedown. And for MPs to be targeted like
(03:02):
this or any publicly elected official is to me just
totally unacceptable. So the protest outside elected officials home that
that legislation is due back before Parliament shortly, and the
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has called on other parties to
support it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
To Speaker, everybody should be able to enjoy their privacy
at home and be free from unreasonable interference with it.
We don't think it's acceptable for people to bang pots
and pans all through the night, or to create an
environment of fear and intimidation for individuals, their families and neighbors.
Mister Speaker, Intimidation has no place in our democracy and
I call upon all members, all parties in Parliament, particularly
(03:41):
the Greens but also Labor to join the government to
defend that principle.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And you know, the outrages from people is I think understandable.
And you remember just a few years back James Shaw,
the former co leader of the Greens, was attacked on
a Wellington street. Well, there was no party lines then.
Everybody was upset at that, and rightly so.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
On the Marty Party wasn't already. Kiper is supposed to
be sworn in today.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
She was supposed to be sworn and John Tammerherry was
at Parliament today saying that concentration should be made on that. Well,
if the party's concentration was on the swearing end of
the new MP it didn't happen today.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
From the Electoral Commission a rich declaring al any co
Partter to be elected at the by election for the
Tamaki Makodo electoral district. I've also received from the Electoral
Commission a return declaring Michael John Davidson to be elected
a Member of Parliament to fill the vacancy list vacancy
created by the resignation of Benjamin Doyle. Both those members
(04:40):
have elected to be sworn in on a different day.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's incredible. Why well, I've never heard of it. Well,
no explanation was offered. I don't know why they've decided both.
This is the Greens and of course the.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Miss because the Marti Party is going to have a
bit of a distinct time when they finally actually start
answering questions.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I don't know, I mean questions.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, Barry, thank you very much, Barry Sober, Senior Political correspondent.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Bary Sober, senior political correspondence with that's Alobari afternoon.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hither I hope we do get to it.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
Yeah, oh no, and we will. In fact, I'm going
to cut you shorts to be able to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Tell me about this debate on the Middle East.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Well, it was Whenceton Peters came into the house and
as a minister's able to do, said he wanted to
make a statement on the Middle East, which means other
parties can reply to it. So he was marking the
occasion of two years ago today was Hummus invaded Israel
and twelve hundred people were killed and others taken hostage,
(00:34):
and the likes was terrible. And I remember at the
time saying, I hope they get rid of Hummits, but
not to the extent that the Israelis have gone to
to get rid of Hummits. But anyway, Peter's faced off
against labor as foreign a fear spokesman Penny Henare here.
He is followed by Henare.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
One irony here. They will not be lost on Meni's
illness is that the very protesters and the supporters who
believe we must break off diplomatic relations with Israel are
receiving consular assessors because we did not do that, and
they wish to break off dipmatic lations with everwel Nevertheless,
Another only is that three private individuals freely chose to
place themselves in a dangerous situation, but now expect their
(01:12):
government to bail them out. We'll do exactly that, not
least because the government feels a sense of responsibility even
for those who act utterly irresponsibly.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
When history calls, a true leader will answer. On Palestine,
the Prime Minister has let the call go unanswered. The
decisiveness that has been demonstrated by other countries only reinforces,
that is, the expectation that the peace plans proposed by
the United States must be fully implemented before this government
will recognize Palestine as a state.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
There are fundamental things here that other countries might have
changed because of enormous pressure back home. So what happens
tomorrow after you make that decision?
Speaker 6 (01:50):
Right?
Speaker 4 (01:51):
What changes? And so we make this speechure in that
a nation where all this recognition changed. Nothing until Trump
alongside Saudi Arabia and got together a piece plan.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
And we hope it works.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I think we can all agree with that, Heather. But yeah,
it was an interesting debate because it traversed the whole
of the thing, and of course the beginning of that
was all about the flotilla. And I see another two
New Zealanders are on their way here as well. But
I heard Winston say earlier, he didn't say it in
the speech, but the three that have been taken in
(02:24):
by the Israelis will be transported to Jordan, and it
sounds as though they might be on their own there
to get back to this country.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's very much I'd like that. Yeah, Look, I don't
think the Greens come out of this Winston Peter's protest
situation at his house looking very good.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
No, they don't, and you know, to demonstrate the way
they have, I mean, it's not the first time Winston
Peter's place has been attacked by protesters. I can't remember
when it was, but there was red paint splashed all
over the place and stickers put up that Winston had
to take takedown. And for MPs to be targeted like
(03:02):
this or any publicly elected official is to me just
totally unacceptable. So the protest outside elected officials home that
that legislation is due back before Parliament shortly, and the
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith has called on other parties to
support it.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
To Speaker, everybody should be able to enjoy their privacy
at home and be free from unreasonable interference with it.
We don't think it's acceptable for people to bang pots
and pans all through the night, or to create an
environment of fear and intimidation for individuals, their families and neighbors.
Mister Speaker, Intimidation has no place in our democracy and
I call upon all members, all parties in Parliament, particularly
(03:41):
the Greens but also Labor to join the government to
defend that principle.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
And you know, the outrages from people is I think understandable.
And you remember just a few years back James Shaw,
the former co leader of the Greens, was attacked on
a Wellington street. Well, there was no party lines then.
Everybody was upset at that, and rightly so.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
On the Marty Party wasn't already. Kiper is supposed to
be sworn in today.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
She was supposed to be sworn and John Tammerherry was
at Parliament today saying that concentration should be made on that. Well,
if the party's concentration was on the swearing end of
the new MP it didn't happen today.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
From the Electoral Commission a rich declaring al any co
Partter to be elected at the by election for the
Tamaki Makodo electoral district. I've also received from the Electoral
Commission a return declaring Michael John Davidson to be elected
a Member of Parliament to fill the vacancy list vacancy
created by the resignation of Benjamin Doyle. Both those members
(04:40):
have elected to be sworn in on a different day.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
It's incredible. Why well, I've never heard of it. Well,
no explanation was offered. I don't know why they've decided both.
This is the Greens and of course the.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
Miss because the Marti Party is going to have a
bit of a distinct time when they finally actually start
answering questions.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I don't know, I mean questions.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, Barry, thank you very much, Barry Sober, Senior Political correspondent.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen live to
news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.