Te Ururoa Flavell: former Te Pāti Māori co-leader on the party's planned political reset

Te Pāti Māori's pledged to concentrate on policy - and listen more. 

The party held its promised reset event at Parliament this afternoon, reflecting on its history and looking towards next year's election.

Former Te Pāti Māori co-leader Te Ururoa Flavell says a party reset would be a good move.

"What that means in terms of translating into policy gains, what it means in terms of taking an approach to the country and reflecting the original kaupapa for Te Pāti Māori - I think still remains to be seen."

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Parliament's been thrown into disarray again today, with the Maori
Party again caught up in a hakka controversy. It's somewhat
overshadowing the party's big reset, which was supposed to change
the narrative after some pretty weird internal stuff. Former leader
or Flavel was watching the reset and it is with
us high it or does it feel to you like
an error pulling the hakka stunt on this day?

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Well, I mean, I don't know whether alreadiny had any
part to play, and that I think it was accepted.
Protocols has always been to allow a way to take place.
In the past, there's been hot so that it followed,
there hasn't been a big deal. And I'm wondering why
even now that it is such a big deals simply
a part of finishing over away at there's nothing in
it about it. Let it ride, it would have finished

(00:43):
and then everybody carry on. Seems to have gone to
another place. Unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Now what do you what are you making of this reset?
I mean, it seems like it's stealing with a couple
of things here. The first is tightening up on discipline,
in the second is releasing policy and wanting to be
taken seriously. Are they actually going to tighten up on discipline?
What does that mean for Copper Kenny.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Well, there's probably there's quite a lot of lot going
on in the party at the moment, and I think
the idea of a reset is probably appropriate right now,
bearing in mind that there's been a few issues that
they've had to deal with over the last couple of
months or so, and there's an election coming around the
around the corner in another year or so. They signaled
a desire to work with the Green and the Labor

(01:24):
Party and therefore probably does need to I suppose, give
a different view about how they see their role in politics.
So it's a good move to have a reset. Whether
that trans what that means in terms of translating into
policy gains, what means in terms of taking an approach
to the country and indeed reflecting the original cope of

(01:46):
the party Maori, I think still remains to be seen.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Do you think cople Kenny is safe in her position
in the party?

Speaker 2 (01:53):
I think I think, well, who knows, but I think
she's done it. She has done a wonderful job. Know
she's she's a staunch in her beliefs, and where she
wants to go. She's considered, she knows where she wants
to go. And I've always enjoyed the interactions that I've
had with her because she talks from a real common

(02:14):
sense position. So I mean, in the end, there's there's
a number of things with there's a number of things
even bringing Hunnah forward. And as unfortunate as you say
that that things happen on today because already had the
moment and it was a big day for her and
her final and it could have been about about more
about that than anything else. But I mean, at least

(02:36):
there's a resetting and focusing on the future, which hopefully
will be the best interests of the party in the country.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, right, Haye to Goorddor, thank you as always or Fleavel,
former Marti Party co leader. For more from Hither Duplessy
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