Full Show Podcast: 10 November 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's Heather duper c Ellen drive with One New Zealand
to coverage.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Like no one else New Stalks.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
They'd be.

Speaker 4 (00:13):
Afternoon, Welcome to the show. Coming up today. Former Maori
Party co lead a Tudor flavel on the expulsions today,
Appa who district mayor Western curtain on how that fire
is going in the Cook Islands opposition leader what the
heck is going on there? Good Heather duper c Ellen's
how much of a mess is the Maori Party? I mean,
I suspect that they'll be hoping that the mess is
over now that they've finally kicked out two of their MPs.

(00:36):
But I also suspect that they're wrong if they're hoping
that the mess is over, because if there's one thing
we can rely on with this lot, it's that none
of them can be relied on to behave like professional adults.
So who knows what the heck comes next? Something probably,
I mean, the two kicked out have both indicated they're
going to challenge this one is already hiring lawyers. The
son of the other one is also considering legal action

(00:56):
because of the email that was sent out revealing that
he allegedly yelled some racistuff a parliamentary security guard. What
even is this about? Have we stopped and asked ourselves
this question? What is this about? I mean, you think
about it. From what we know, it isn't a bust
up over principles like Jermandertan leaving the Alliance or horning
hard Awea to leaving the og Maori Party. This is

(01:16):
just a bunch of people who can't get on with
each other and can't, like normal adults, find a way
to sort out differences to be fair. Did we expect
anything else? I mean, this is the party of John Thomerherada.
This is the man who blew up his own career
with the front Bum's comment, and then blew up his
radio career with the Roastbusters comment, and then has managed
to basically blow up his relationship with plenty of what

(01:37):
he calls the white media by just being obnoxious the
whole time. So is it really a surprise that the
most obnoxious person in politics at the moment has brought
together a crew of people who who can't work together
and has created a working environment which then blows up
through a lack of emotional maturity. Now, given all of
that John talmerheadair, lack of emotional maturity, all of it,

(01:59):
I think is probably more to come on this. Maybe
there's some legal action, maybe there are some by elections,
maybe there's some more defections. But definitely and almost certainly
there's going to be more warfare on social media, don't
you think. And of all the people that this hurts
the most, Maori Party, Maori Party voters, whatever, it's Labor
because can Labour really convince voters that this tantrum prone

(02:19):
outfit can be relied on to be in government if
they can't even be relied on just to keep their
own party together.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Heather duper c Allen two texts.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
That's the text number, standard text free supplied barrysop will
have more to say than to order off level after
five o'clock. Now, let's talk about banks, because yet another
bank has posted an increased profit. A and Z New
Zealand has reported an after tax profit of two point
five billion dollars for the year to September, which is
up more than twenty percent. Antonio Watson is the chief
executive and is with us. Now Hi Antonio, Hi, Heather, Now,

(02:52):
how are you guys doing so well when the economy
has been such a turd?

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Really well, I have to first story your attention to
these strange things called economic hedges, which are a fluctuating
big number due to accounting treatment. And if you look
through that it's based on it's basically us valuing our
derivatives boring. If you look through that and you look
at our actual underlying customer business, our profit is up
four percent, which is about the same amount that our

(03:18):
lending was up and our deposits were up. So growing
our profits growing in line with the growth of our
balance sheet.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Okay, so up four percent, but still Antonia, up four
percent at a time when the economy is going backwards
by one percent in a quarter. How did you manage
to do that?

Speaker 5 (03:34):
So a couple of things. One is that we grew
our balance sheet and the other one is the other
main one is that you know, in a sign of
green shoots, as we said in our media release, we've
actually released some of the credit provisions that we took
in previous years. So last year we had a charge
and this year we've had a release.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
How much you be growing balance sheet by just out
of interest.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Over two hundred billion dollars. It's the size of our
assets and our balance sheet. So I understand that people
really think it's a big I mean two point five
or underlying two point three is a big number. But
we're a really really big company.

Speaker 6 (04:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Are we paying more in interest margins in New Zealand
than the Aussies are.

Speaker 5 (04:16):
A little bit more so when we do a direct
light for light comparison with our Australian business, we pay
New Zealanders pay about twenty one basis points more. That
is more than accounted for by the additional capital that
we need to hold in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
So when the reform Coalition, the Banking reform Coalition said,
if the margins were the same as A and Z
Australia's margins, our mortgages would be one hundred basis points lower.
Are they wrong?

Speaker 5 (04:40):
They are comparing apples and oranges. They're comparing then the
margins in New Zealand to the margins of our entire
A and Z group in every country including New Zealand,
and importantly includes our institutional business, which has a big
markets business that doesn't focus on margins. It focuses on
returns and it has a big the rest of the
institutional business because there's a lot on other operating income,

(05:02):
not just margin, because they get fees for transaction banks.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
So in New Zealand, bananas, really our net interest margin
is two point six percent. Yeah, in news erect and
what's in the Australia for and if.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
You get this, so if you add together, if you
add together the same equivalent businesses, which is our retail
business and our business and private banking business, there's is
two point three nine percent, so twenty one basis points lower.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Okay, why do we pay more?

Speaker 5 (05:29):
As I said, we have we're required to hold more
capital in New Zealand. And when you think about our capital,
our shareholders invest nearly twenty billion dollars in our business
and we have to provide them a return on that.
They've had to invest another one point two billion this
year alone, just because of the increased capital requirements from
the rbn Z. That would translate into a ten basis

(05:50):
point increase in capital if we were to hold returns flat.
So the fact that we've increased our NIM by three
basis pointin ten just shows that the shepholders are wearing
some of the increase in capital, not just the customers.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Okay, when so Nicola Willson them are obviously attending to this.
At the moment when it's all sorted, will we be
paying the same in the interest margin as the Australians.

Speaker 5 (06:11):
Well, it depends on what is sorted, because at the
moment the proposals from the Reserve Bank, one of them
makes us hold more cet one capital, which is the
most expensive form of captures. It's not going to happen though,
you know that, Well, we'd like to hope not. But
the other one requires us to hold more in sort
of capital like instruments all together, So at the moment

(06:32):
the proposals don't really change the dial match neither, and
of course don't know and don't forget hither. Also that
we're talking about stopping increases going forward, we're not going
back in time, so we're not going to really expect
significant reductions and interest We're just going to expect less
pressure on rates going up.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
Okay, So Antonia, if we took away, if we took
that away all together, we flattened it out to the
same place in terms of capital requirements as the Australians
would be paying the same.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
We'd be well if we allowed for the amount of
capital they hold and did nothing else, we'd actually be
paying a little bit less here.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Oh that sounds awesome. I like that. I've got to
ask this question, only you're gonna hate it. Are you
getting a bonus?

Speaker 7 (07:13):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (07:13):
I am.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
You'll be able to see that in the room reports
on the much trubished today. It's very complicated, but overall
this year I'll be paid just under two point eight
million dollars.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
Nice, you got any plans with it?

Speaker 5 (07:27):
Invested wisely?

Speaker 4 (07:29):
And you do not have to answer TONI. You're so game,
you don't have to answer that question.

Speaker 8 (07:34):
Mate.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
What you say is buger off here than none of
your business. Listen, Thanks, thanks very much. I really appreciate
the time that Antonio Watson A and Z in New
Zealand's chief executive. Least least you tried a quarter past.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's the Heather Dupers Allen Drive Full Show podcast on
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Speaker 4 (07:54):
Here that Antonia has clearly drunk the kool aid. Pitty.
You didn't ask why New Zealand customers pay more fees
than Aussie customers the same services. Do you know what? Though?
On the capital requirements right. The answer is simply, if,
as you heard her say, if we had if they
had to hold less capital than they do currently, if
they held the same as the Australians, we would pay
less than the Australian's net interest margin. So the person

(08:16):
who can actually change this is Nikola Willison. She's with
us after six o'clock we'll ask her about that. It's
eighteen past four Sport.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
With TB Multi's Fast, Easy and more codes. Sorry, eighteen
bit responsible.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Jason Pines sports stalkhosters with us Hallow Poney, h I
hit it was it Damien McKenzie by himself, basically.

Speaker 9 (08:31):
Well, it was a big part of it, wasn't it.
You look at the things he did, the significant parts
of that game yesterday that he was involved in, that
big booming fifty to twenty two that got us down
to the Scottish end when they were putting the pressure on.
Then from the resulting penalty that came from that, sorry,
the lineout that came from that, he defies physics over
in the left hand corner and somehow gets that ball

(08:52):
down for a try that takes us ahead and then
a you know, blood pouring out of his face and
standing there like brave Hardy knocks over a fifty men
penalty to get us up twenty five seventeen. So it
shouldn't mask what was a fairly mixed performance from the
All Blacks. But the thirty five minutes Damien McKenzie put
out there last night, for him anyway, were well worthy
of the man of the matter.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
He found his place then as the impact player.

Speaker 9 (09:15):
I totally think he has. It just feels like the
best place for him right that twenty three Jersey where
he can come on regardless of that situation and make
an impact. He plays unstructured rugby. It is exactly what
you want from guys coming off the bench.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
What happened to the Phoenix are going to win?

Speaker 8 (09:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (09:32):
They didn't win the game. They didn't win the game.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Of course they weren't going to win the game. You're
the only person who thought they were going to win
the game.

Speaker 9 (09:37):
Well, they are about twelve thousand turned up who thought
they might, although about eight hundred were Auckland fans. Look,
I wonder whether the Phoenix th whatever win one of
these now. They had a great chance on Saturday night
and the Aukland were down to nine men for the
last ten to fifteen minutes of that game, and try
as they might, the Phoenix couldn't get up. It was
a great occasion either. It was a really really exciting
night to be a part of Auckland. Left C just
continued to do good things. I actually think they may

(09:59):
even be a better team than last year. And they
won the won the you know, the Premier's plate, the
minor premiership if you like, and then we're knocked out
on the semis. I think they might be even better
than last year. Ye, so licking of wounds going on
in Wellington, but high fiving up in the O nine.

Speaker 10 (10:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
I was going to ask you, so, having cocked an
eye full of what they're up to, do you think
that they could go one better? I mean, like, honestly, Piny,
it's incredible. When you talk about go one better is
literally to win the championship, isn't it?

Speaker 11 (10:24):
Is?

Speaker 6 (10:24):
It is?

Speaker 9 (10:25):
That's and I think the fact that they didn't win
it in their first season is all the motivation they'll
need to win it in their second. You know, if
there was any complacency or or hey we've done everything,
we've achieved everything, then that is put to bed by
being knocked out on their home patch by Melbourne victory
in the semi last year. So yeah, I honestly believe
hither that when that Silf boys handed out at the
back end of May, they might be the ones holding

(10:45):
it up.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
Yeah all right, hey, thank you very much. Piney really
appreciate it. Jason pine sportstalok hoast listen count because yes,
last week I was I was giving absolute assholes to
the Rugby Rugby league guys for the fact that old
mate Ali Katoa had gone on the field when everybody
can see Yali katos should never have gone on the field.
Can I just give some credits to rugby union because
Caleb Clark took her head knocked on't he? And he's

(11:06):
now he's failed as HIA, which is the correct process?
Do the HIA the HIA stand down period twelve days,
which I still think is too light, but it is
significant because twelve days standown means he's not ready for
the next test. So at least the right thing's been
done there for twenty one.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
The headlines and the hard questions, it's the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 12 (11:26):
The Prime Minister is will us with the cooks I
wonder if Peter's is wrong. Peters has long argued friendship counts.
I don't think it does, doesn't.

Speaker 13 (11:32):
Well, the issue here is we're good with the Cook Islands.
People love them, but we're very frustrated with the Cook Islands.
Government is a government or Brown. It's promise of Brown
and his government, and he represents that government. We have
an issue, which is that we have a responsibility constitutionally
for the defense and security of the realm.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
We provide budget.

Speaker 13 (11:48):
Money to them on the basis of trust. Our trust
has been broken. We want that restore.

Speaker 12 (11:52):
Yeah, but it's not going to be That's my point.
We all know, and I don't think anyone disputes the
Cooks are in the wrong here, but thirty million clearly
accounts for nothing. He couldn't give a monkey.

Speaker 13 (11:59):
Well, let's find down.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Back tomorrow at six am.

Speaker 12 (12:01):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Baby's real Estate News Talk said, be.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
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Speaker 4 (12:18):
Peterson is going to be out of Australia in about
fifteen minutes. The new South Wales government there is trying
to ban the Nazi slogans after the Neo Nazi rally
right rather outside it was one of the state buildings
or something. Anyways, what a hot mess in Australia with
this anti semitism and weird stuff. Anyway, we'll talk to
Olie about that. Guess by the way, I don't know
if you were listening to the last show. Guess who

(12:39):
called talk back today.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
Stuart Nash Fentanyl. You've looked into this problem, haven't you.

Speaker 14 (12:46):
Yeah, So when I was Minister of Police very early on,
so this would have been twenty eighteen, you know, went
across the United States and had a look at this
and this is when the fenttal epidemic was was in
full force and right across North America.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Actually, Stuart Nah, Now I think that we heard that
and we were like, listen to this because Stu, as
you well know, has been a regular on the huddle
on this program. And Laura, when did you call Stu?
Was it after the thing after the texts?

Speaker 15 (13:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (13:16):
After the thing? Which thing was Stu? After the texts?
Remember when he remember when he unleashed on Todd McLay
and he was just so angry. I don't know why
he's did that. I mean he knows it's oa abel.
Texts are oi able, especially when Todd McLay wants them
to be oi able. Anyway, So after that, Laura got

(13:36):
in touch to them. I was like, hey, Stu, you
do you want to come on the huddle? Not because
we're sending him up like where is mate? You know
what I mean? So we were like, come on, hardle
isn't it that?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
No?

Speaker 4 (13:43):
No, not talking, no going, radio silence, radio silence until
early next year. Well that lasted until the tenth of November,
didn't it? Gee was do you know what I put
it down to?

Speaker 8 (13:54):
Though?

Speaker 4 (13:54):
I reckon he's bored. I reckon and I reckon link
for politicians, they're not normal like the rest of us.
Like we go away and just I don't know, become
real estate agents or builders. Just have normal lives, you know,
like go out for drinks, hang out with our mates,
talk some smack, go to a concert, hang out with
the kids. You know, like you could have a normal life.

(14:14):
These guys, though, like the absolute like bloodlust for attention.
They're like oh, no, one's talking about me. Cool talk
back anyway. Good for him. I'm to be fair, and
I've said this before. I will never ever turn down
the opportunity to talk to somebody who knows what they're
talking about. He was a Minister of Police. He knows
what he's talking about. I was like talking to Helen
Clark about foreign affairs or even fel GoF you know,
talk to these people because they actually know what's going on.

(14:35):
So good on him for sharing some of his wisdom.
Just jellous. That's all here. The big ups to Antonio
Watson for being upfront and honest about her bonus. It's
a lot, but I'm okay with that because she answered
your question, not like a politician who ducks and dives.
Do you know what. Here's the thing, I firmly believe this.
If you don't like A and Z making a profit,
bank with someone else. Go bank with someone else. And

(14:56):
there are heaps of other If you want to keep
your profits in New Zealand, there's heaps of thanks available
for you. There's here we Bank, There's TSB, There's just
a whole bunch of them. You go do your banking
with them. There are two people who sit next to me,
one and then the other one and they both bank
and the heart out, the heart out lefties. And I
was like, do you have a problem with another? Nah? Nah, fine,

(15:17):
absolutely fine. So I just don't think many and I
don't think as many of us care as you might
think about that anyway. Uses next iven't.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Cutting through the noise to get the facts. It's heatherd
the c Ellen Drive with one New Zealand cover. It's
like no one else used talk said, be theres them.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
In line very well.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
The lord of body hardy use the rocker jumping Lord?
Do you know what it's possible? Isn't it? Who knows?
Who knows? You think one thing and then the next
thing happened as I said to you, that can they
can be relied on to be completely unreliable. So I
don't know, but udud Or Flavel, who was obviously a
former CO leader, may have someonekling. We'll ask him after
five o'clock. Will also talk to Barry Sofa about that
when he's with us. Very shortly. Oliver Peterson is standing

(16:08):
by out of Australia. It's now twenty five to five.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
It's the world wires on news talks, they'd be drive.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, well you'll have seen this news. The BBC director
general and the CEO of news there have both resigned.
The bb had come under a lot of pressure in
recent weeks over that report, accusing the organization of bias
his former Channel four former Channel four's news boss.

Speaker 16 (16:28):
The problem is here that they not that they're institutionally biased,
but as an organization they appear to be somewhat stupid
because they make really stupid basic mistakes.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Over in the US, the Senate is voting on a
deal that could end the US government shutdown. The Republican
majority leader has one enough Democrats over to get the
deal through by promising to hold a vote on extending
healthcare benefits. The President's happy.

Speaker 17 (16:56):
Well, never agreed to give any to stand your money
or any money too, really, prisoner's illegals.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
To come into our country. Can I think the Democrats
understand that?

Speaker 8 (17:07):
And it looks like we're getting posted a shutdown ending.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
And finally, smile. American retailer Target has told its employees
that from now on, they must smile every single time
a shopper comes within ten feet of them. If the
customer closes to a four foot distance. The employee must
ask how their day is going or if they need
any help. Now, this is apparently already a rule for
Walmart employees and just you know, good customer service. So

(17:32):
Target is following suit to try and create a more
welcoming environment.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
International correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Oliver Peterson fleixb our Perth Life present to Hey, Ollie.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
I'm already smiling talking to you hither.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
I mean, it's just good customer service, though, isn't it.

Speaker 18 (17:50):
Absolutely you can hear it in your voice when you smile,
can't you, Heather?

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Can you yes, go and give us a line. Well,
it's just wonderful to be that's such a great take.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
No, I want to media.

Speaker 18 (18:00):
Reward on Saturday Night header, did you what for local
council that ended up getting abolished or sacked after I
interviewed the mayor because basically she didn't want a children's
hospice in what is a class A reserve where there's
nice trees and whatnot. But you know what, I just
think that maybe putting dying children's final wishes as a

(18:22):
priorities probably out, maybe just out.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Ways just a couple of trees. Yeah, just that got
very very heavy, very quickly. I agree with you on that. Hey, listen,
what are they going to do about the Nazi slogans?

Speaker 18 (18:32):
Well, the New South Wales's government wants to bring in
some new hate laws. Now this somewhat surprises me because
it is illegal in New South walest it's illegal here
in Western Australia as well to have Nazi symbols, but
it's actually not illegally New South Wales to have Nazi
speeches or Nazi slogans. So we saw it gathering over
the weekend at New South Wales Parliament House and this

(18:53):
has happened on a few occasions. Now there was a
group that said abolished the Jewish Library and they were
undertaking this what is deemed legal protests. But it's not
a great look and obviously the current laws in place
in New South Wales mean that this can go ahead,
but the speeches and slogans they're looking to upgrade the laws.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
Now so can be stamped out.

Speaker 18 (19:12):
A couple of MPs Kelly Sloan in New South Wales,
as well as the Federal Teel Illegal Spenders, spoke out
about these commets and they're as a result of what
they have said, they have to go and delete their
social media accounts. They have been smashed online by people
for speaking up in regards to this. I don't know
how that this isn't the Australia that we know and
love and appreciate. It just doesn't feel like what we

(19:34):
get up to in this country. So it's all just
getting towards that sort.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Of boiling point. I just don't like it. I missed
who's getting smashed on social media, is that the people
who want to have these slogans band or the people
who are criticizing that.

Speaker 18 (19:47):
So the people who want them banned, the MPs who
have spoken.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Who're smashing them on social media.

Speaker 18 (19:52):
Those who would be connected to those.

Speaker 4 (19:54):
Like people who want to use Nazi slowly.

Speaker 18 (19:56):
They want to use Nazis slogans and speeches and slowes,
and there is enough of them.

Speaker 4 (20:00):
It's enough one on social media.

Speaker 18 (20:01):
Correct and say what's free speech?

Speaker 4 (20:02):
The hell is going on with Australia.

Speaker 18 (20:05):
But this it's just it's become what some might think
it's a bit of a sleeper issue. It's becoming more
and more mainstream and out in public and it's I
don't blame our legislators for speaking up and saying, let's
get rid of this. This isn't, you know, the place
we want to be in, And yet they're they're finding
it as a result of speaking up to that they're
having to get rid of their social media accounts.

Speaker 4 (20:25):
It's wild, isn't it. But I mean that in and
of itself almost really underschooes the fact that they absolutely
have to look. I'm not saying that they have to
band slogans. I don't know how I feel about that,
but that's something is very wrong and needs to be
done on absolutely. John laws made it to a good
old age.

Speaker 18 (20:40):
Didn't he Getney indeed, ninety years of age? And how's
that seventy one years he spent behind the microphone that
he's just phenomenal. And I was crazy when I was
started my career at two UE, going back sixteen seventeen
years ago when Lawsy had just retired from to UI.
And it's actually all the tributes are flung from the
Prime Minister to Graham Richard and obviously also passing on

(21:02):
the weekend down to Russell Crowe. Nobody has a bad
word to say about John Laws and he was in
that generation of broadcaster in Australia. He said, no, he's
never been a journalist. He goes, you know, he's an entertainer.
But he was respected by every side of politics. And
yeah he's a bit controversial at times. There was also
that cast for Comments Saga for a little while as well.
But Laws he just had the golden tonsils, he had

(21:23):
the voice. And when I started a to ue heathered
just very quickly where Lawsy's office was. After he had left,
that became an office for about fifteen people. So it
just keeves him the idea in the good old days,
right that the power of the broadcast or how he
just had that office. I'd know about you these days
at ZB. I mean you probably have a whole flaw
to yourself. But where I am at six PR here
in Perth, I'm just in a pod.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
You know the people. Do you do watch the morning show?
You know, the one with Jennifer Aniston?

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (21:47):
Do you ever? I watched that and think to these
people have got the people have crazy ideas of what
it means to be in the media, like the awesome
glass offices with like the Kia and all the great furniture.
I'm like, nah, try hot desk gag you correct, yeah,
spot on it.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
You can only dream for that, so.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
How good would that be? Hey? So a cup of
coffee is a thing.

Speaker 6 (22:07):
Now do you like coffee?

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Matt, love it, but just the just the one, because
you don't want to become a niacle?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Is that right?

Speaker 18 (22:13):
So I do three shots a day, but all before
mid days.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
You'll have to meet dog get the shakes.

Speaker 18 (22:18):
But hey, that's good. You and I are fine, right
because now my heart's going to be fine. That's what
they're saying.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
This due out of Adelaide, because you're making it race
every day.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
That's right.

Speaker 18 (22:26):
Basically the research out of Adelaide. But I'm going with
it says that all of a sudden, we're not gonna
have to worry about af So how do you say
atrial fibrillation? So it just means you know, heart's going
to beat properly, will be right, We're.

Speaker 4 (22:37):
Fine, We're good drinking coffee.

Speaker 16 (22:39):
Right.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
You sound like a doctor, Ollie, Thanks very much, Oliver
Peterson six pr Perth Life Presents eighteen Away.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
From five Heather duper c Allenhether.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
It's not just the BBC that's hither. That Ossie reporter
is so awesome, do you know what? Yes, he is.
I love him. Here that it's not just the BBC
that's biased, it's the whole mainstream media, including ZB and
your show. You have TDS. No, I don't. I did
not Trump arrangement syndrome. I Trump tickles me pink like
I realize all the bad things that Trump is a

(23:07):
terrible human being. Can you imagine? Can you imagine a
reality worse than having to be millennia be married to him,
you know, or actually maybe living in his country. But
isn't he funny? He cracks me up. I'll tell you
who has got teds though is barried Soper. Absolutely. We've
got to talk about these police gifts. I don't know
if you've seen them, but some people, like some people

(23:28):
clearly think that just a gift for the sake of
a gift is a good thing. And I'm feeling like, Okay,
the Israelis, I'm gonna give it. The Israelis were not
that bad. The Israeli police gave a portable fruit juicer
to like some of our police, and it's quite random.
Is that like a neutrabuleet or something like that must be.
It's quite a random thing. Like how do you look
at a group of people and go they need more fruit?

(23:50):
Is that what happened there? Or is it just a
product from Israel that you've decided that you Scott to have.
I don't know. Otherwise it's impossible to explain. But whoever
in Hong Kong thought that it was a good idea
to give a teddy bear to Richard Chambers needs to
go and have a hard think about what they're doing.
Because they just gave a teddybear to a grown man

(24:12):
who's also a hardened police officer. What do you think
he's going to do with a teddy bear? That's just like,
that's bizarre. Also, Wellington Police returned a box full of
hair scrunchies. Now, first of all, you can take the
hair scrunches and nobody's going to be offended by that.
If you thought that that was some that's not. No
one's going to call your integrity into question, Wellington Police
because you took hair scrunchies. But it is a bit

(24:33):
of a random gift and I'm hoping to God that
whoever gave it was actually a hair scrunchy maker. Otherwise,
the fact that they gave it for all the hard
work the female police staff two for the community is
a bit strange. Sixteen away from.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
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Speaker 4 (24:51):
Hey, I've got some financial advice for you very shortly,
so stay tuned. That's just before five o'clock. It's thirteen
away from five Barries so per senior political correspondence with
us Alovaring, Good afternoon, surprise. I'm not a surprise that
they kicked out the two MPs.

Speaker 8 (25:03):
Well, it was a long time coming, wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
But Baiden Barber, poor Baden Barber from the ewee chairs,
they've been flying up and down the country trying to
stitch this thing. Sorry for him, Well, you know, it's
been embarrassed.

Speaker 8 (25:14):
I think there was a lot of work going on
behind the scenes to try and bring the factions together.
Then they just went you've got the leadership, haven't You've
got a third of the Bali Party and now out
of the out of not parliament, but out of the party,
which is pretty extraordinary. There have only in my time
there've only been two MPs expelled from parties. Donna Terri Huata.

(25:40):
She was expelled by the Act Party and you've got
recently Darlene Tana after all that going on with the Greens,
she went. But it's very rare to expel an MP
from a political party, and you know, an electorate MP.
They could invoke the Walker jumping legislation that would enforce
a by election and these two big electorates, but they

(26:03):
have to go to the Speaker and talk to him
about that. And I don't think he would be of
a mind to think about by election.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
And he can't stop them, And no, he can't.

Speaker 8 (26:11):
Stop them, but they have to have that discussion. But
we know with them it's not that easy. Look the
we really don't know what Takuta Ferris did wrong other
than doing that late night video. What he really did wrong.
Rowery White te he had a message for his party's

(26:32):
membership today though, which apparently has been bleeding membership since
the internal wrangle began several weeks ago. Stick with us
and we'll deliver government next year.

Speaker 19 (26:45):
Our responsibility and our future earn our hends. This week
marks one year since the Hiko and moutiturity, when Tanata
Tanata Tidty and Tanata Moana stood.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
Together and stopped the Treaty principles built.

Speaker 19 (26:57):
That is what happens when we are unified, and that
is the standard we expect. We have begun serious and
constructive conversations with the Labor Party and the Green Party. Now,
people on the streets and the polls have told us
they want a government led by our three parties at
the helm. We will work to deliver that outcome front
Today we will not comment further on this internal matter.

Speaker 8 (27:19):
There you go. So they believe firmly they're going to
be members of any coalition government. And when he says
that says that the Treaty Principal's bill was stopped by
that equoy, I think he should just go back and
reflect on that, because it was Chris Luxon that said
it wasn't going to go beyond the first reading. Had
nothing to do with that.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Callum has a question for you. Wasn't Alaminkupu also kicked
out of the alliance?

Speaker 8 (27:42):
She was out of the Alliance, but I don't think
she was expelled in the way these people expect.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Okay, what's going on with the Cox?

Speaker 8 (27:52):
Oh well, what is going on?

Speaker 16 (27:54):
Listen?

Speaker 4 (27:54):
It's eighteen million dollars in funding that was withheld didn't
make a difference. I don't think thirty millions.

Speaker 8 (27:59):
Well, the thing is that this has been going on
since February, since Mark Brown, the Prime Minister there signed
some sort of a deal, strategic deal with China. The
danger in all of this, Heather, is though, that it'll
drive the Cook Islands and other other Pacific countries into
the arms of the Chinese. That's the danger. But look,

(28:22):
certainly there is a way through. In two thousand and one,
the Joint Centenary Declaration signed between our two countries said
that you had to consult each other when it came
to defense and security. There was no consultation that Mark
Brown did with our government. And in February, of course,
Mark Brown signed that comprehensive strategic partnership with China. Now

(28:47):
it could be brought back this relationship if you listen
to Chris Luxon, he's just said that that'll require Mark
Brown to come back to the table to discuss it.

Speaker 13 (28:57):
It needs to be progress, and there is some little progress,
but we want a lot more of it, and we
want trust restored, and we want clarity and mitigations to
the questions that we have answered. And until we see
so will pause our budgetary support, but of course that
doesn't preclude a lot of other money going in to
key parts of supporting the people of the Crook Islands
as well. I'm confident that they know that they will
take this pretty seriously, which is that they need to

(29:18):
come to the table. They need to demonstrate to us
that they understand the obligations.

Speaker 8 (29:23):
And it's not just the money heither, it's the relationship
that New Zealand has always had with the Cook Islands
being a realm country that we're sort of their protect
writ in a way.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
You're right, alamone coopu it defected. She resigned, Barry, thanks
very much, appreciate it, very so much. Seeing your political
correspondent eight away from five Oli Peterson was saying before Heather,
I don't agree with the neo Nazis protesting, but we
have also had to put up with a lunatic pro humus,
anti Semitic losers two years protesting, which is a fair
point actually, because a lot of the stuff that's coming

(29:56):
out of that, the pro Palestinian mouth the protests as
very very anti Israel, anti Jewish. No, no, it's just
anti Jewish. Some of it is anti Jewish in the
same way that the neo Nazis are. So if you're
going to draw the line on the neo Nazi slogans,
you may have to cast the net a bit wider.
Do you remember that christ Jewish crematorium that we were
telling you about some months ago that started doing water cremations.

(30:19):
The apparently it has taken off. It's like it accounts
for about seventy five percent of their business. They've only
been doing it since June. So I have a chat
to them after five o'clock. It's five away from five.
Now this is the money advice I have for you.
Normally I wouldn't take any of my financial advice, but
you need to go on the IRD website and see
if someone owes you money in the unclaimed money bin.

(30:41):
Because ans did today, well not today, ants did it?
And a Scott A windfol didn't you answer?

Speaker 6 (30:47):
I did? My dad, I think read a Herald article
that said you should totally go check this thing. So
he did. And then my name was in there, like
my first name and my surname. And apparently the money
was owed by a company that I had worked out before.
Now I had no idea why this company would own
me money. But you know, I was like, hang on,
that seems too concident. Also, I just clicked the little
button saying I think this is me.

Speaker 4 (31:09):
Ask no questions, claim the money, that's right.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Yeah, And then the money arrived. Well, they basically they
say it's going to take at least three months until
we even decide tell us how much.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
It was.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
Four hundred and forty dollars.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
That's for doing nothing. You got four hundred and forty dollars.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
I had to log into my IR, I had to
click it.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
But anyway, Yeah, well you had to do some admin anyway.
So then today we were talking about it and then
produce the Sam was like, oh, well, I'd better go
check and guess what Sam is owed money as well.
I think it was like one hundred and fifty dollars,
he says, from some random company he's never heard of,
or it.

Speaker 6 (31:39):
Could be someone what the same name as Sam.

Speaker 4 (31:40):
He does have a very common name. Yeah, but ask
no questions, claim the money anyway, So.

Speaker 6 (31:46):
You lose nothing by applying, for sure, Yeah I have.

Speaker 4 (31:49):
I'm not If you're wondering what is this? What is
this lottery? This is basically when you're owed money by
an organization or a person and then they can't track
you down, and they do it try for about five
years to track you down, and if they can't track
you down, they just transfer the money basically over to
IRD and then it sits in the unclaimed money pot.
And because of the internet's it's now really easy to

(32:10):
just type. You go and type your name and find
your name, claim your dollars. How good is that? And look,
if you do this in the next like a couple
of hours, obviously don't wait, don't walk run. If you
do it in the next couple of hours and find
your name, you have to text me because we want
to celebrate your good fortune with you and also maybe
take it. I don't know. I reckon ten percent? What

(32:32):
do you reckon ten percent? I reckon that's not bad.
I think heither. You're not biased, not remotely, but whatever, Yes,
I am one hundred percent. I am, but I don't
hide it. Whereas the BBC, we'll talk about them soon.
To order it off.

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Speaker 1 (33:06):
Doorgs be.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Good afternoon. The Maldi Party has officially expelled two of
its MPs. The party's co leaders confirmed today that Maria
Mental Kappa Kingi and Taku the Peras have been removed
from the party, effective immediately. Both have indicated they intend
to fight this decision. To Udera flavel is, the former
co leader of the Maldi Party and with us hied
to hear that, do you think that the party is

(33:29):
now going to trigger the walker jumping law and force
these two out of parliament altogether?

Speaker 15 (33:35):
Well, that seems to be the intention from the leadership.
But I think there's a little bit of water to
go into the bridge as yet. I understand that this
sort of may well be some legal challenges to process
and what's been and what has happened. So I think
there's a little bit more water to go into the bridge.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Unfortunately, depending on how long that takes, they could run
out of time, right because they have to do it
in the first half of next year.

Speaker 15 (33:58):
Yeah, well, I mean the hope be that at one
you know, I think people from what I've heard seen
and questions asked of me, is that people are over it.
They're hugely disappointed me with the outcome of what happened
with the National Council. But there is I think many
of us hang on to an element of hope that

(34:20):
there's a possibility of bringing the parties back together. I mean,
the Constitution of the Mighty Party says that you try
and make decisions by consensus, and consensus has explained to
us and work through. When we were doing the constitution
was you hang in, you stay, you keep talking, you
work it through, You try and bring everybody over the
line with you, and according to the processes as it's

(34:41):
sort of been reported, that never quite happened, but it'll
be for others to determine that. And so we hang
with some hope that there will be an element of
bringing the parties together, although the scigns aren't all that creature.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
I mean, is it even possible to it all? If
you've released like John palmerhadd has a lot have done,
released all of that damage information about people like Maria
Iman or Kapa Keni, how can you possibly bring her
back well?

Speaker 15 (35:05):
I mean that's part of the issue, is that some
people have heard some of the story but not heard
all of the story. Unsure the people liked JT and ably.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
How can she come back and then us trust the
judgment of somebody like John Tabaheta who released part of
the story.

Speaker 15 (35:23):
Well, that's true. That's the problem that there's issues on
both sides of the fence, and neither of those have
been presented, at least to the membership, whom one would
think that there's an element of responsibility to report back to.
Most of the discussion has been, you know, with those
people in those electorates, so people don't know the full story.
And the hope would have been that, you know, you

(35:43):
get a group of people to work out the truth
and then the truth what actually happened on both sides
of the fence, come to some conclusions and then work
their through But unfortunately that hasn't quite happened.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
Does this hurt the Maori parties vote without a.

Speaker 15 (36:01):
Doubt everything that I've seen, albeit I've been away out
of the country, but I've been keeping a track on
what's been going on that there's not one post that
I've seen that even there are posts that say we
still have hope with with the hope that the Mighty
Party can sort stuff out but pretty much most of
the reaction that I've seen has been very negative. It's

(36:22):
that people have been disappointed, sad, angry, sort of hopeful
that things would have been turned around, but just just
sad about the whole situation that two of these MPs
that that came in together with a huge element of
hope having gathered six of the seven mighty seats, would
bring things over the line and at least us wave
the flag in terms of mighty aspirations. And they've done that,

(36:46):
and they've done that, Sue to this point in time, unfortunately,
just it's.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Just not working.

Speaker 4 (36:50):
Does JT have to go?

Speaker 15 (36:53):
Well, that's one of the considerations that many people say
as an option, but clearly, well it's not from need
I say, but I think that there's if you're looking
at the whole party, you know, generally you reflect on
the leadership that's been given both as political leaders and
the party leaders. He's got to be responsibility from all

(37:13):
parties and you can only ever find that out by
having some sort of investigation into what happened. And there's
still time, and there's still is I think I spoke
to you not long ago, is about a year or
so to the next election, there's time to sort some
of the stuff out, but it's definitely coming to your questions,
definitely damaging at the moment.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
Hey, thank you as always for your time to edit
a level form of ARTI Party co.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Leader ever do for CLO.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
That enormous fire and Pulling It at All National Park
is still burning, but Fire Cruiser upbeat about the progress
that they've made. Evacuated residents of fuck A Pupa village
have been allowed to return, and Dox Damien Coots says
that the worst damage to the tourism infrastructure has been avoided.

Speaker 21 (37:50):
Yesterday we lost twenty eight hundred hectares approximately of Told
It All National Park. We're an incredibly fortunate position from
a recreation point of view to have many others to
a SATs, but the impact gone by to your city
is going to be significant.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
Do appear who district mayor Western Cursions with that.

Speaker 17 (38:06):
High Western Yes, sir, Good afternoon, Heather, thank you for
the opportunity to come on program. Does it sound to
you like the rains put the fire out, Well, it's
basically helped, Heather. We had issues with the wind and
the heat yesterday, which of course was that it's cinnacle
with the fire, but have rain and dampening things overnight
particularly made it easier for the crew to get on

(38:28):
the ground and actually try and deal with it permanentively.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
Still some hot spots and stuff.

Speaker 17 (38:32):
Uh, absolutely, and it will be going on of course
of the next week. We'll have people on the ground.
They'll be putting drones up during the night, for example,
to see what's out there and actually deal with it
during the day.

Speaker 4 (38:44):
Any idea how it started.

Speaker 17 (38:46):
No, that's something un investigation, Heather, There all sorts of speculation.
I've got to say that it's probably in the vicinity
of a highway, which is a state highway forty seven,
and it's likely that's some interference there that's caused it.
But I can only speculate, and I guess it's allowed
the police to carry out the investigation.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Did you see that the EWE has placed at a
hue over the area for ten years.

Speaker 17 (39:09):
Well, it's part of it. We're talking about two parts
to it together. One is the Rahi Hui are regarding
the track itself. So we've got seven days there and
that would be revisited in seven days to see whether
or not. You know, it's practical to go over the
Tongario crossing and that could be lifted. But the ten

(39:30):
year one is around the restoration. What they're basically saying,
EWE is that they need to restore it responsibility, which
of course goes with hand in hand with what everyone
else in New z anyone wants is to ensure that
it just doesn't go to weeds and to show up.

Speaker 4 (39:45):
Okay, so what does it actually going to stop. Who's
going to be stopped from going into what areas for
the next ten years?

Speaker 17 (39:51):
Well, I think to appreciate that the areas that was
burnt doesn't have very much in the way of public
access at all. What we're talking about is ized tracks
which will be open to the public as soon as
we get the seven days lifted, and of course it's
safe to do so. So we're not as though that
you know, you can go there and park up and
actually stay there. It's just not practical in that location.

(40:14):
So I've got to be fair to say that there's
hundreds and hundreds of hectares that need to be restored
and we've got to give it space to do that.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Westin thanks very much for your time. As always, Western
Curtain the Ruapeh District, mayorgever Do for c Ellens. This
is not a lie. I just got a text from
Lois omg I'm owed two thousand dollars. She's owed two
thousand dollars from Amex Amex Amex. She didn't know that
she was owed that money. Went and had a look
on the ID website. There you go, two thousand dollars,

(40:43):
just like that, Heather, I just completed my claim on
the ID. I received six hundred and forty eight dollars.
Apparently it's from an old international money card that I
had many years ago, and I'd forgotten about that. From Graham, Hither,
I just searched unclaim money on IOD. My name's popped up.
Now I just fill out my forms. Heither, this is
the last time I listened you. Must says this, but
Must doesn't actually mean this last time I listened to
you because I had to look at that IID thing.

(41:04):
I found out IOE a little bit to the ID
and one of my ex workers, no, mus that's not
you're not looking at the right money pot. You need
to go to the unclaimed money money pot. You're welcome,
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(41:24):
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Speaker 1 (42:04):
Heather duper c Ala, Nicko Lerwilli's.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Finance minister with us after six o'clock. It's nineteen past five.
Now do you remember that christ Church Crematorium that has
started offering water cremations. Turns out people quite like this idea.
Since they started offering the service in June, seventy five
percent of their cremation customers have chosen the water option.
Andrew Bell is a co director of the crematorium and
he's with us now, Hi, Andrew, Hey, Heather, how are

(42:27):
you doing? I'm well, thank you. Why are people so
into it?

Speaker 7 (42:31):
Well, there's a couple of reasons. There's the environmental benefit
is one, just a lack of carbon that goes into
the atmosphere from the process. There's also a preference some
people don't like the idea of fire and prefer water
over that. And then yeah, just suspetal with some people.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
So if it's such a big business for you at
the minute, is it going to get bigger?

Speaker 7 (42:56):
I imagine it will. I mean we won't expecting. The response,
to be honest, that we had from it seventy five
percent straight away was quite quite more, a bit more
than what we're expecting. And I mean last month we
were ninety percent water cremation. So it's it seems to
be on the app.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
I mean this, it seems to be like, I mean,
you know, it's not my business, but it seems to
me like this must be a much easier option for
you guys, Like you don't have to get that fire
burning really hot to track someone.

Speaker 7 (43:25):
Let's just there aren't no health and safety concerns with
the system that we've got. It does seem to be
a little bit easier to operate.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Yeah, I would imagine, Hey, best of luck that and
I'm pleased to hear it's going well. That's Andrew Bell,
co director of christ Church Water Cremation hither on the
Cook Island thing? Is the solution here maybe to take
away the citizenship and take away all the rights and
then see what happens to Mark Brown? Do you know
what I had had you not wandered, I'd wandered about this.
I wandered, hmm, if taking eighteen million dollars away in

(43:58):
eight is not going to change Mark Brown's we can't
fight money with me, but we can't fight the Chinese
on money. Can We could take all the money away
from the cocks not gonna make a job of difference,
because the Chinese of deep pockets and they'll just replace it.
So surely what you have to do is threaten to
take away the one thing that actually you do have
that the Chinese don't have, which is New Zealand citizenship
and superannuation and visa free travel and stuff. And maybe

(44:18):
then people get really whoo awake to what's going on
and they toss Mark Brown out of office. Anyway, we'll
talk to TENA Brown, no relation, who's the leader of
the opposition over there? After half past five twenty.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
One, Hard questions, strong opinion, Heather dup Cell and drive
with one New Zealand Tan the power of satellite mobile
news dogs'd behither.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
I searched on the unclaimed money site in Australia and
I found three thousand dollars oh to me from fifteen
years ago and one hundred dollars oh to my late
uncle from a travel agent. If you've worked or lived
in Australia for a time, just still get the money.
The system works. How good is that five point twenty
four Well, at least someone's resigned at the BBC. In fact,
two have resigned, both a Director General and the boss
of News. And the fact that this bias scandal that

(45:02):
the BBC has claimed two of the most senior executives there.
Tells you how serious it is. And it's not just
serious for the BBC, too serious basically for all the
mainstream media outlets in the English speaking world. Because even
though the rest of us didn't splice together two pieces
of what Donald Trump said to make it sound like
he was encouraging his followers to take a fight to
the capital, and even though the rest of US didn't
hire the son of a Hamas official to voice a

(45:24):
documentary about Gaza, many of us take the BBC's content,
don't we, often unchecked. There are some media organizations out
there that are so beyond reproach that other media outlets
like ourselves will take their content and not reverify it
because it's the BBC. It's the BBC, you don't have
to re verify it. Well, if they are infected by bias,

(45:45):
we all become infected by bias, don't we. Whether it's
their obvious bias on Gaza, their bias on trans issues,
their bias on Trump, which they have been well and
truly busted for. They're biased, becomes everybody else's bias because
we're taking their content. This is the kind of stuff
that has crashed and still can tinues to crash public
trust in the media. Because if you thought that the
media was unfair on Trump, now you've been proven right.

(46:06):
If you thought that the media was soft on Hamas,
now you've been proven right. If you thought that there
was all this stuff going on where the media had
fixed views on Tras issues, now you've been proven right.
All you need to do is look at that whistleblower's
dossier that was leaked last week. For the most part,
that will explain all of it to you. And by
the way, as a member of the media, my faith

(46:26):
in the BBC has been really eroded by what's just happened,
not just because they sliced together two pieces of Trump's
speech to make him say something he didn't say, but
because they knew it and sat on it for so long.
This happened a year ago. It happened a year ago.
It took a whistleblower's frustration to eventually write a dossier
and then to leak it explicitly because the BBC weren't

(46:47):
doing anything about it. For the BBC to actually do
something about it, like the resignations that we've seen in
the last twenty four hours. It's not good enough what's
happened at the BBC and Jesus, this is how media
outlets are still behaving in twenty twenty five DIC but
all the evidence that they are losing public trust. It's
gonna take a really long time for us all to
get it back together.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Duplessy Ellen look to the.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
Huddle about it shortly when they're with us, Can I
just guys, how has it taken us till this year
to honor Sam Neil at the New Zealand Screen Awards
with the Screen a Llegend Award. So it's just been
announced that he's gonna get one this year. I thought, well, yeah,
fair enough. I mean there's probably been a cue of luminaries.
Well last year Dame Julie Christy fair enough, year before

(47:30):
Oscar Kiteli, fair enough, but like a lot younger than
Sam Neil. So how come he came before Sam Neil?
Janine morel gunn Yep, fair enough? Ian Mune How did
he come before Sam Neil? Andrew sure? Who even is
that Shortland Street?

Speaker 22 (47:45):
What?

Speaker 4 (47:46):
Anyway? So I'm just I'm just wanting to raise your
awareness about the fact that I think Sam Neil has
been hard done by us. I mean, the man has
got an Emmy, he's got a Golden Globe nomination, you know,
like he's got actual proper gongs to his line. And
finally he will complete it with a screen Legend Awards.
But man, it's taken us too long, isn't it. Anyway,

(48:07):
Let's go to the cock's nests and then the hud
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Speaker 1 (48:10):
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Speaker 20 (48:32):
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Speaker 4 (48:32):
Danney described the other day as jasindada and with a beard.
Thank you, Steven's. That's an image, isn't it. Hey? Have
you heard about what's going on in Auckland in terms
of the old department store Here we were saying, oh,
it's the end of department stores. Faradays is set to
open a department store at one three to one Queen
Street in Auckland. I know, it's like what happened with

(48:53):
Smith and Goey's. These guys are opening mid next year.
We're going to talk to the chief executive of Faradays
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Speaker 2 (49:00):
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Speaker 4 (49:13):
With the balancing act, So I suppose that I have
to be able to put my truth out there.

Speaker 23 (49:18):
So I'm in my conscious space. I've never been so
conscious of my life.

Speaker 20 (49:23):
That was a.

Speaker 22 (49:23):
Nervous moment for Elie Tatoo.

Speaker 24 (49:26):
I think all the staff and teammates were holding their breath.

Speaker 22 (49:30):
I think he's okay, but.

Speaker 25 (49:32):
Irena Sublanca is a dangerous tennis player. I'm not taking
her lightly, but I am. I am very confident. You know,
sixteen players, pretty much sixteen players that have ever walked
this earth have beaten the Big four four and I'm
one of them.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
All right, Sports tattle this evening, Nick Beuley News Talk
z'd be christ Church sports reader and Levina Good sports journalist.
Hell are you too?

Speaker 15 (49:51):
Did I hear that?

Speaker 4 (49:52):
Levina? Is there any world in which Ali Katoa should
have been allowed on the field after that head knock? Ah?

Speaker 23 (49:58):
It was horrendous, Like between you and I head A,
I think someone really needed to step in nice and early.
If you've had a clear head knock in the warm up.
That should be game over, no debate whatsoever. We've got
to get past this whole. She'll be right, mate. Culture,
I mean, player safety is there's nothing more than player safety.

(50:19):
That's like when it comes to optional it's just about
player safety. And when a player ends up in surgery
after being cleared to play, that tells you that the
protocols or the like, the courage to enforce them, they
just weren't good enough. Like it was horrendous. It shouldn't
have happened. He literally had fluid drained from his brain
and it wasn't right. And if it was a relative

(50:40):
of mine or a friend of mine, I would have
said you're not playing, buddy, And that got lost.

Speaker 8 (50:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
I don't understand how this happened because the very people
who should have kept him off the field, which are
the medical team, actually assisted him after this.

Speaker 18 (50:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (50:54):
I think that's where the confusion reigns, isn't it Hither
Because the Toland coach, Christian Wilf, immediately after that game
said all protocols were followed and he was very comfortable
with too, what he's described as very experienced sports doctors
clearing Ali Catala to play and then later earlier this
week or a few days later, we're then told no,

(51:15):
if we hadn't seen the vision from the warm up incident,
we wouldn't have let him back on the field. It
seems like a real blame game at the moment, but
as Levin said, I think fundamentally it comes down to
a duty of care around the team, management, around teammates. Look,
I've even I've even heard it suggested that perhaps the

(51:35):
host broadcast are given they aired the pictures in the pregame,
someone should have someone should have done more from a
host broadcaster standpoint to go, look, if we're if we're
putting these pictures to air, perhaps someone should go, hey, guys,
just in case you haven't seen this, this is pretty
damning and.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
This guy shouldn't play well. Surely, surely these images.

Speaker 26 (51:56):
From the broadcast truck can easily be brought up on
a phone and iPad down to it.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
But I'm a medical.

Speaker 26 (52:02):
Doctor, a team trainer on a uniform.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
The medical doctor in the tongue and uniform is looking
at this guy and going, nah, you're all good. They
had all the people around that.

Speaker 26 (52:12):
That's the bit I'm not one hundred percent clear on
because of the way. I've seen some reporting where they're
backtracked on that during the week, and I think that's
where it gets. It's got even more confusing. And this
is just a total rarity where you know, we're used
to obviously the HIA process during the game, but it's
clear as day that there needs to be something a

(52:33):
lot more stringent and enforced in the warm up because
he should the game.

Speaker 6 (52:39):
I'm really late.

Speaker 23 (52:40):
My doctor's just saying it couldn't about me.

Speaker 4 (52:42):
Too, right, do you reckon, Levina? Heads can roll?

Speaker 15 (52:44):
Like?

Speaker 4 (52:44):
Should heads roll over?

Speaker 11 (52:45):
This?

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Is it at that level? Or is this just something
that we I don't know, have to take take it
take a learning from.

Speaker 23 (52:52):
Well, I mean there's plenty of things we can take
learning from when it comes to advocacy and you know,
when we're at a board level and when to get
protocols right. But to be honest, anyone and Nick, I
know you saw the footage and the rest of the
country I was with sporting fans that don't watch sport
at all and watched it and thought it was during
the match and went, WHOA, wow, he's gone, he won't

(53:12):
be playing. I'm like, actually, it was the warm up,
but no, he won't be playing. Then he turns up
to play. It was ridiculous and honestly in terms of
in terms of player care and also like grass grass
grass roots rugby league as well, it's not the sort
of thing that we want to advocate to our kids
that it's okay to play. You'll be right, be tolf
be tof get out there and do it. I mean
it was a serious injury. He should never have played.

(53:33):
And I do think the doctors should be interviewed. I
think they should be held accountable because anyone that gave
the tick to that box for him to play made
a wrong decision too.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Right now, Nick, what do you think about this T
twenty idea? Do you like it?

Speaker 15 (53:47):
Look?

Speaker 26 (53:47):
This has been bubbling away for a week while, hasn't
it with the Super Smash, whether it's for purpose of
course coming to a change in the broadcast arrangement with
New Zealand Cricket moving back to Sky after this from
TVNZ and it just felt like something had to be
done with our T twenty competition when you compare it
to I know we're a small country by it by comparison,

(54:09):
but it's nothing, you know, I can't hold a candle
to the IPL or the Big Bash or one hundred
or anything like that. So to hear that there is
a bit of private money and equity interested in changing
the landscape of T twenty cricket is not a total shock.
It is a little bit surprising. I suppose that it
sounds like it's got universal support from the six major associations,

(54:31):
the domestic regions across the country. So look, while there
might be some resistance a little bit higher up apps
at the governing body New Zealand Cricket level, if they're
if they're saying, hey, our own domestic product isn't good enough,
we want to change. I think that that strikes to
me anyway. That's that that change is coming. And to

(54:52):
be fair, when you look at the Super Smash, yes,
it's a nice product in terms of you know, it
just feels like a nice day at a summer location,
sort of barbecue vibes. But you know, operationally of her,
you know it runs at a pretty big loss. So
something has to be done, whether it's something in between.
I know there's been reports to join the Big Bash.

(55:13):
I think change is coming, but this sounds quite interesting.
I'm intrigued to see where it lands.

Speaker 4 (55:17):
Yeah, Levina, I don't know. The Super Smash is it?
I never watch it? Do you watch it?

Speaker 25 (55:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (55:22):
I do, I do watch it. And I also I
think the Super Smash Australia with the women's competition for
years that outrated everything that happened here in New Zealand
when it came to football or other minor sports that
in terms of key we politics. This is good old stuff,
isn't it. Netbal New Zealand would be loving this attention
right now, and the provinces are saying they want more money,

(55:44):
more attention, and they're decided maybe in a way I guess,
to make their own fun and you can see they're
absolutely considering it, maybe backing it. They might feel ignored
by the current setup. I don't know if this rebel
league promises more control, but it might promise more cash
closer to home. The thing is, the thing is there's
an early buzz, but unless it locks in TV money

(56:05):
and top players, it risks kind of just going way
over the backside or the breakaway league and there'll be
no coverage and there'll be no fans and it won't happen.
So they need the coverage. They want the money and
everyone's talking about it at the moment. It's the buzz trap.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
Yep, totally. All right, let's take a break that you
guys come back shortly seventeen away.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
From six.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
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Speaker 4 (56:30):
They're seeing away from six back of the huddle, right, Josie,
what's your take on the salaries.

Speaker 24 (56:34):
Look, I don't mind people being paid what they're worth
if they're making making a lot of money for the company.
I think what New Zealanders don't like is when you
find out that, you know, the former head of Fonterra
who lost god knows how many million was paid, you
know job, and the same with you know, Fletcher Building
where there's it. So I think it's just it's more
that there's just this sort of auto feel that you

(56:56):
kind of just get more money if you're in those roles.
But with the banks fits some of it. You know,
part of the problem here is that they're making a
profit when we're in one of the worst recessions in
a long time. Insolvencies have gone up about one thousand
percent unemployment's gone up, so it's not really a sign
that the economy is doing well.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
I don't believe that.

Speaker 24 (57:15):
And I also think, you know, there's still a problem
in the lack of competition in the banking sector. I mean,
ninety percent are Australian owned banks.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Nicolak and Fixus. At six o'clock she will, we'll ask
her about that. Okay, Trish, what do you think happens
next with the Malori Party? Do they because tudoroff Level
was on the show earlier said he thinks that they're
going to go for the Walker jumping or do they
do that?

Speaker 10 (57:35):
Well, it's a it's a very critical strategic question for
two Party Maori. And here's why. So invoking the Waker
Jumping bill is easy for them, that's the easy part.
So what they have to do is they have to
get two thirds of their caucus to agree. They take
it to Speaker Brownly. As long as they've followed the
process and they've got the two thirds effectively, he then

(57:57):
rubber stamps it right, so that then triggers they can
of seats and two by elections. Here's the tricky bit
for to party Maori. You are a tiny party you
are absolutely fractured. We know they've got no dough and
their bleeding members because of all the disunity. If they
go for two by elections before the general election, I

(58:20):
would put money on it that Mariomeeno and takut would
stand again. So to Party Malori would have to stand
candidates against those two and who else is going to
want those seats?

Speaker 4 (58:32):
Lay Labor.

Speaker 10 (58:33):
Labour wants those seats back. That would be an absolute
gift to Labor. And if Labor could win them in
two by elections before the general election, highly likely they
will win them again in the general election, and so
to Party Maori would have actually put a risk two
very valuable seats.

Speaker 24 (58:51):
So the alternative then is that they end up in
parliament within a sense to Marori parties, and then they've
got to differentiate themselves. I think this point you were making,
Heather is it's hard to see what the differences between
Rahwari and Debbi and Takuta and Maria Mino.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
And a difference be that Maria Meno and Takuta because
they will not be They're not trying to become part
of a Labor lead government, so they can afford to
be as radical as you like, whereas these are the lot.
Now I have to tack a little bit to the.

Speaker 24 (59:20):
Same and I think both both parties I'm already calling
them to parties and I want to kind of feel
that this is a positive thing, that Mary politics is
fracturing in a way that it is healthy. Right, it's
not one voice for Mari. But it just feels like
you've got two basically ethno nationalist parties.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
That's what you've got.

Speaker 24 (59:37):
And you know, I mean Takuta said during the by election,
you know he doesn't want Pakier and Indians and sind
Islanders voting in a Mari Electric. Well, now it seems
there are some Mari who don't want Mary to vote
in a Mari Electric.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
So it's just not getting very confusing.

Speaker 24 (59:50):
It's a bit like, you know, the People's Judaeas Front
against the Judaea's People's Front. But I would hope I
think you're right. I think it might push to party
Mari into being the parliamentary voice of again, and they
start to be a little bit more respectful of parliament.
And maybe it pushes whatever party Takuta and Barriamno decide

(01:00:10):
to call themselves into being the kind of radical out
of parliament parties and they'll be gone.

Speaker 10 (01:00:14):
Well, the risk is for them though, and I think
this is actually a high likelihood now. Voters, it doesn't
matter what stripe they are, they publish. They punish disunity
the hardest, and I think that their reality to Party
Maria is steering down now is that they could lose
their party being in parliament totally. I don't think anyone

(01:00:36):
in that party currently understands what it takes to get
an activist grouping and actually get it into parliament, like
Tariana did, and like Peta Sharpouls.

Speaker 24 (01:00:46):
Did and he sounded great, so reasonable.

Speaker 10 (01:00:50):
There's only one party that has managed to come back
from being kicked out of parliament, and that's New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (01:00:55):
First.

Speaker 10 (01:00:56):
They've done it twice.

Speaker 4 (01:00:57):
But as we know Winston.

Speaker 10 (01:00:58):
Peter's he defies political GRAVI. So the likelihood of that
happening for Party Marii is, I think is very low.
And I've heard from several people over the weekend who
are in and around this and have been working behind
the scenes for Party Marie for years. They are heartbroken
at what's happening because they can see the very live

(01:01:18):
possibility that they're going to lose everything.

Speaker 24 (01:01:20):
That was always going to happen. I mean, I like
that quote that Penni said during the last by election
where he said they need more action less hucker. And
that's the problem, all right, guys, and spread invasionator by
the way, just quickly does John Palmer had a need
to go?

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Will he goes? Guys. I'm not going to say.

Speaker 10 (01:01:41):
What I'm going to say is I think from a
unity point of view, he he does, and to allow
the party to move on. I think financially the party
is tied to John Tomahery and that's why he's staying
in it.

Speaker 20 (01:01:53):
Huh.

Speaker 24 (01:01:53):
And it's also got you know, is his son in law,
his daughter's you know, involved in the party.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
It's massy. It's messy, all right, guys, thanks, thank you
very much, appreciate it. Trish sheherson Joseph beganni our huddle.
This evening seven away from.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
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Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
Listen, I need to tell you after half past six,
we're going to talk to a chap called Edwin Paul,
who is of the Indian New Zealand Business Council. He
reckons if you're running an export business, listen to this.
He reckons businesses need to prepare for an FTA free
trade deal with India in the first half of next year.
So what exactly how you prepare for something like that,

(01:02:36):
It's beyond me, but he knows. So he's going to
be this US after half past six word chat to him.
Here the very interesting analysis of the Maori Party in
a non emotional world. Brilliant Alas, the more I think
about this, and the more I talk to various people
about this, the more I'm coming to the conclusion that
the problem is John palmerheaded because when you think about it,
what has that man not ruined in his life? Do
you know what I mean? What is he not? He's

(01:02:58):
a brilliant political career, interesting radio career, just and this
just feels like another thing that he's just blowing up
because he's that kind of a character. Hey guess what. Also,
as Josie was walking out the door, I said to her, Josie,
do you know any other John's John Peganey's other than
the one that you're married to? And she said no,
that's the only one. I said, Well, brilliant John Peganey

(01:03:19):
has owed one hundred and ninety five dollars and four
cents by the A and Z Bank New Zealand. So
she's going to go claim that and take that money
for herself if she's smart. Heather, I just looked up
my name and then it gives you variant of other
people's name. And there's another guy called Vincent who's owed
over forty thousand dollars by bonus bonds. I can't find
him on social media. Here's the thing though, Ants and
I were talking about this earlier. There's a business opportunity

(01:03:41):
here is in the hands.

Speaker 6 (01:03:43):
I think I disagreed on it because yeah, you're right, yes, yeah,
it was you. You're on the idea you go and
find the person and say hey, you owed this money.

Speaker 17 (01:03:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
The problem is what do they need you for them
or the admin?

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
Because I mean, look how hard it was for me
to find the link before Sam the producer had to
send it to me. And I'm I'm not even a boomer.
I was just like, oh, this is really hard.

Speaker 6 (01:04:02):
I just yeah. But after you've shown them how to
find the link and stuff, you're just kind of relying
on their goodwill that they are going to talk at.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
You in Yeah, no, no, you just got to work
this out, right, So they just they just sign a
contract with you that if you if you are able
to track this down this money for them, they'll give you,
I don't know five percent. You get Vincent's forty grand
before you know, there's two thousand.

Speaker 6 (01:04:20):
I think everyone listening just has to send us ten percent.

Speaker 15 (01:04:22):
Right.

Speaker 6 (01:04:22):
That was like kind of the that was contact.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
Yeah, that was the yeah. Because you can't sign papers
over the radio, it's just assumed that you've agreed to it.
Nikola Willis is with us.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Next, we're Business who meets inside the Business Hour with
Heather Duplessy Allen and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Your futures in good Hands news talks that'd be.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Even in coming up in the next hour. Shane Solly
is going to talk us through how the markets reacted
to that A and Z result. The India Business Council
will tell us why businesses need to get ready for
an FTA and how with India obviously, and then Gavin
Gray is with us out of the UK. It's seven
past six and with us now as Nikolaulus, the Finance
Minister high Nicholer. Hi, Ever, are we going to get
an FTA with India in the first half of next year?

Speaker 22 (01:05:12):
I am not going to get cut across the trade
ministers negotiating timeline. But they are pushing very hard and
there has been a heck of a lot of work
happening and they're making good progress.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Okay, what are we going to do about these bank profits?

Speaker 22 (01:05:27):
Well, look, as I've said in the past, there's no
silver bullet to this one. Actually, what you want is
a more competitive banking sector, so that the banks are
offering better products and services at better prices to New Zealanders.
Because I think actually a lot of people get it.
It's okay for business to make a profit. But normally,

(01:05:48):
if you're seeing profits of this level, you'd expect there
to have been a breakthrough new innovation, or an incredible
new technology that they're brought to the market, or a
huge number of new customers have come on board. But
none of that the case here.

Speaker 7 (01:06:01):
And I found it reassuring this.

Speaker 22 (01:06:03):
Morning to even hear Mike Hosking acknowledge that maybe I've
got a point that more competition is needed, and so
that's why we've been progressing these detailed regulatory reforms that
the Commerce Commission proposed. None of it is going to
fix it overnight, but it's really important that we get
the settings right so that people can come and eat
the lunch of the big guys. They can come in

(01:06:23):
and cut away at their business because they're big profits.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Okay, so some of the problems, and you've identified this
yourself as the capital requirements. In the proposals that you're
looking at the moment, do either of them reduce how
much capital they currently have to hold.

Speaker 22 (01:06:39):
Well, at the moment, they are going to have to
ramp up how much capital they hold into the future.
So the proposals that the Reserve Bank is consulting on
would ease that ramp up. So they would do that
in different ways. They would change the nature of the
capital that they need to hold, and they would make
New Zealand more lined with other countries. We like to

(01:07:01):
compare ourselves with butt.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
Aligning ourselves of the Australians, because apparently the Australian banks
have to hold less capital than we're requiring New Zealand
banks to hold.

Speaker 22 (01:07:10):
That is correct, and that's partly because when international observers
look at New Zealand versus Australia. They think that New
Zealand is a riskier banking market and therefore our banks
should be required to hold more capital so that the
tax payer doesn't end up having to fund a bailout. Now,
there are arguments around how close we should be to Australia,

(01:07:30):
and that's part of what the Reserve Bank is consulting on.

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Pat Do you think the Reserve Bank should consider dropping
the level because the only consideration in the moment, from
the sounds of things is increasing it.

Speaker 22 (01:07:40):
Well, I think that the Reserve Bank should ensure that
banks are holding the minimum level of capital required for
the system to be stable. And that's a balance.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
That's subjective, isn't it. I mean that is subjective because
Adrian wanted us to hold a whole lot more capital
than we are. So basically, if you're not prepared to
say yourself now, Nichola, if you're not prepared to say that,
it's go backwards than what you're accepting is we will
always play more on mortgages than the Australians do.

Speaker 22 (01:08:06):
I'm accepting my role, Heather, which is under the way
our legislation works, the Reserve Bank is responsible for prudential
regulation making and decision making about where these rules sit.
What our legislation requires and what I, as the Minister
require is that they do what's needed for financial stability.
What I changed was I said to them, I also

(01:08:27):
want you to actually think about competition. And my remit
to them is really specific in asking them to think
a lot more about that and efficiency, and I think
that's partly what prompted them to review this. In the
absence of me being Minister, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't
be reviewing it at all.

Speaker 4 (01:08:45):
Hey, do you know when the Maui gasfield is closing?

Speaker 20 (01:08:48):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:08:49):
I do not.

Speaker 4 (01:08:50):
Nobody's told you December next year.

Speaker 22 (01:08:53):
No, I haven't been advised of that. I actually don't
take part in cabinet decisions relating to that. Yeerance with
that case?

Speaker 4 (01:09:00):
Oh of course, because you've got some disclaimers there.

Speaker 7 (01:09:05):
That.

Speaker 22 (01:09:05):
Yeah, luckily kept kebinet office rules and I apply them
in this case.

Speaker 4 (01:09:08):
I hadn't thought about it that. Are you worried about
this though? If the Mali gas field closes and the
method ex closes, that's a big loss, isn't it.

Speaker 22 (01:09:15):
Well, this was a huge motivator behind the government's energy
reforms is that we're looking ahead to a future where
we need to make sure we can keep the lights on,
and in the absence of being able to have gas
and coal, you've got a big problem. So that's why
Huntley now has a big coal mountain outside it, because
actually you need something to spark the lights on, and

(01:09:37):
you need to make sure that that electricity is increasingly affordable,
not unaffordable.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
Hey listen on the Cox, the leader of the opposition
said there says this needs to basically be handled by
their Prime minister and our Prime minister's sitting down with
each other. We prepared to do that.

Speaker 22 (01:09:51):
Well, those discussions are ongoing. I think there's been some
reporting sort of suggesting that they're on ice. That's not
the case that I understand. There's still constructive discussions happening
between the two governments, and we are still continuing a
lot of assistance to the Cook Islands, about thirty five
million in direct support for Cook Island projects. What's on
pause is the direct budget payments. It's a reluctant decision

(01:10:16):
and we are continuing to progress those discussions and we'll
obviously do that through all the appropriate channels.

Speaker 4 (01:10:22):
Okay, and what about the Prime Minister, because it seems
like it's a Mark Brown v. Winnie Pee thing.

Speaker 22 (01:10:28):
Well, I don't see it that way. I actually think
it goes to the trust between the Cook Islands and
New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (01:10:35):
And every to bring everybody in.

Speaker 22 (01:10:38):
Yeah, I don't. Well, no, obviously Cook Island does belong
very well. No, it's a Cook Island's government issue in
which they broke down the level of trust between the
governments and that has been damaged because of the way
they behaved in relations to their security agreement with China.
And that is a policy issue rather than a personal issue.

Speaker 4 (01:11:00):
Hey, when are you going to announce what assets you
want to sell after the next election.

Speaker 22 (01:11:06):
Well, we've ruled out assets sales during this term of
government as a consequence of our coalition agreements. However, the
National Party will bring its own policies to the next
election Campaigny.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
So is it just going to announcing the election campaign,
is it?

Speaker 22 (01:11:22):
Well, we continue to do the work that's necessary to
make sure we're managing our balance sheet of assets much
much better than has been the case in the past.
There tends to be a lot of focus on the
commercial assets. But let's Remember we've also got hundreds of
billions of dollars worth of social assets, hospitals, schools, roads,
and our government and the National Party are very committed

(01:11:43):
to building more of those to allow for a growing population.
And so the question becomes, how do you fund those responsibly?
How do you make sure you can build the roads
and schools and the hospitals.

Speaker 4 (01:11:53):
Such a simple question, Nicola, Such a simple question. You're talking, well,
I'm friendly. I'm friendly on this. I think we need
to sell assets. Is you know you can? You can
just answer the.

Speaker 22 (01:12:03):
Questions so you understand where I'm coming from, which is
I've got a carloson agreement.

Speaker 4 (01:12:08):
You've got to sell me your lines.

Speaker 22 (01:12:09):
So that's pretty simple. And so when I'm talking to
you as the Finance Minister, I have to abide by
my Carlos otherwise I don't get the votes to do
what we need to do.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Thank you, Nikola, look after yourself. Talking in next week,
Nicholavella's Finance minister. What's your face? Muriamnal Murria Menal spoken
to One News. I'll play you butt next quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:12:28):
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Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
You are going to want to hear the texts about
people that I have made rich today. But anyway, before
we get to there, I'll do it shortly. Muddy, i'menal
A couple of Kingy's reacted to the news that she's
been expelled by the Marti Party.

Speaker 27 (01:12:57):
It's a heartbreaking thing, actually to hear such news in
such a unethical process.

Speaker 4 (01:13:08):
And she's pretty upset, obviously with John thamahead.

Speaker 27 (01:13:10):
Dictators don't like people that speak against them and they'll
do everything to get rid of it.

Speaker 4 (01:13:16):
The very last assault attack that.

Speaker 27 (01:13:19):
The President said to me while looking at me, was
I am coming for your boys and I will.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
Have utsu.

Speaker 27 (01:13:29):
Who in their mody mind says that the.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
President is John Talmahera and the boys are obviously a
reference to her sons. One news is reporting that while
Debingado Werepaka and Rahweri Wahitiiti, the co leaders have backed
the expulsion of these two MPs. The new MP or
any kite, but it is actually backing the ones who've
been expelled. And Hanna might be Rafti Clark, how Hannah
Rafti might be Clark actually is in the middle. Her

(01:13:54):
electorate abstain from the vote to expel the two MPs.
So this thing is blowing up like everything. It would
appear that on tom My head he gets his hands on.
Nineteen past six, Shane Sally Harbor Asset Management is with us. Hey, Shane, Hello,
that right. Give us the latest from the markets today.

Speaker 28 (01:14:08):
Yep, pretty flat, quiet day here in New Zealand. We said,
New Zealand government bond year was up two basis points
to four point one one percent. The interesting one today
with New Zealand dollar. We're pretty stable against the US
dollar at fifty six to thirty five, but actually fell
against the Australian dollar to a twenty year low of
eighty six cents thirty So it's going to make your
holidays to Australia bit more expensive. Heather, there's because IBA

(01:14:30):
number two Andrew Houser. He said, look, we're not going
to cut rates in a hurry. New Zealand shre market
up zero point one three percent, led by a two
meridian and for Till main freight the spark we've got
Maine throat due to report Wednesday and in for Till
due to report Thursday. So there's a bit going on.

Speaker 4 (01:14:46):
How are aan z's results received.

Speaker 28 (01:14:49):
Yeah, Look, the anz to underlying cash inians result was
two point eighty six big in Australian, pretty big number
flips for the second half of twenty twenty five. It
was actually slightly below expectation. Revenue a bit lighter, costs
were below expectations and the bank increased loan impayments. Provisions
are higher than expected, not because they've got a problem,

(01:15:09):
because they're actually putting a bit of a hollow log
in place. Locally, the New Zealand a Z business looked
pretty solid. Revenue up to six b and for the
half versus five and a half being for the previous year,
other than one hundred and one hundred and forty being
a blending one hundred and sixteen b in A deposits
both up four percent year on year. So the New
Zealand business and good Health a ridge when the result

(01:15:31):
first come out here that the market was a bit
meh about it all. But the New a ZI chief
executiveviously nu no matters. He gave a really good rundown,
talked about better need ad dress margins, better cost reduction.
So Shaer price action unit up at its highest ever
price thirty seven to seventy five Australian. That's up two
point six percent. So pretty good day for the AzID
share price.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
And we've got Rocket Labs results out tonight. What are
you expecting there?

Speaker 28 (01:15:56):
Yeah, looks watching this there. Rocket Lab can beat the
top end of it. It's expectations because we've seen a
really steady launch cadence inst they're getting their launches pretty regular.
She had four over the quarter. Looking for an improvement
on profit margins this new Electron rocket in terms of
how that's going, and also there's space systems back and

(01:16:16):
programs back up running in full production mods and markets
expecting better profit margins very much. Market will be looking
to see how the rocket Lab is positioned to benefit
from what is an accelerating global satellite launch program and
how they're progressing with the new generational launch vehicles and
contract pipeline. Rocket Lab shop price it's pulled back from

(01:16:37):
it's October high. We had a higher US sixty nine
to twenty seven closed on Friday at fifty one sixty four.
But of course that's still well up on where it
was a year ago, which was forteen dollars sixty six.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
Hey Shane, always good to talk to you, mate, Thanks
so much. We'll talk to you again next week. Shane
solely Harbor Asset Management. Right, wait for these texts. You're
not going to I can't believe it. You're not going
to believe at six twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Micro or just plain economics.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
It's all on the Business hour with the Heather Duper
Clan and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Your future is in good hands us.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
Talk z'd be get a load of this. This is
a smattering of texts that have come in since six o'clock. Heather,
the search indicated I mowed four than three hundred dollars
if that is. If that comes through, I will deliver
a bottle of red to your studio. SID you're on
and you're welcome here. The four hundred and forty one
dollars coming my way from Bonus Bonds. Thanks Dion, Heather,
thank you for mentioning the unclaim money at the ID

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four hundred and thirty dollars from me cheers from Tony
here the OMG, it can't be me, but maybe it is.
It's showing I could be owed over eleven thousand dollars
from A and Z. I have a mortgage with AMZ.
So Marcia, maybe it is. You hear the yep? Just
check the Unclaim Money ID website. Got two old accounts
with a total of five hundred dollars. That's from Gary here,
the holy crap. I wasn't going to bother searching the

(01:17:52):
ID website, but I thought why not? And I mowed
six hundred and ninety dollars from a former employer. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Do you know what?

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
The was doing more to help the cost of living
crisis than the National Party? What do you think? Six
twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
There's no business like show business.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
When a chat Cindy, Cyndi lauper not al Cindy sound
like rock and roll to you? Not me, But apparently
according to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, this
is rock and roll. She was inducted into the Rock
and Roll Hall of Fame alongside Outcast again, not hip hop,
Sound Gard and the White Stripes and Salt and Pepper
again not not rock and roll. Hip hop Brother Chapel

(01:18:33):
Rohan was the one to induct Lauper, but she had
a bit of trouble reading the tellyprompter.

Speaker 29 (01:18:37):
I messed up so bad by refusing to get contacts.
Holyca It's that courage that not only creates incredible art,
it gives everyone who experiences the premission to be themselves.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
And then Cyndi Lauper gave a nice speech about how
she still thinks rock and roll can change the world.

Speaker 11 (01:18:58):
I know that I stare on the shoulders of the
women in the industry that came before me, and my
shoulders are broad enough to have the women that come
after me stand on mine.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
Who thought she sounded like that? Not me anyway. She
went on to sing her song Time after Time, which
is a banger with Ray and there's an artist by
the way, and then she gave us another performance of
girl Just Want to Have Fun with Avril Levine and
an all female band and other artists who perform on
the night also included Dojah, Cat, Stevie Wonder, Teddy Swims,
Brandy Carlisle, Elton John, Eggy Pop, and Olivia Olivia Rodrico.

(01:19:34):
Which is just an absolute all star hit list in it,
but also outcast is not rock and roll.

Speaker 6 (01:19:41):
I feel like out of those names you just read,
like maybe half of them you could consider rock and roll.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
It's not rock and roll like this is.

Speaker 6 (01:19:46):
Really it's a very broad definition of rock and roll.

Speaker 4 (01:19:49):
They look at all music. Nick Miner, Beethoven's in there too. Anyway,
Let's talk next about the India FTA happening before midway
through next year.

Speaker 30 (01:19:58):
FU everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the business
Hour with Head, the duper c Allen and Mass motor
vehicle insurance.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
Your futures in good hands. Used talks 'd be so Judith.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
So can you come.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Again.

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
Ray's going to be at us in ten minutes time
because obviously we're going to talk about the BBC and
everything that's gone down there in the last twenty four hours.
It's twenty five away from seven now. Key we business
leaders are being told to do their homework right now
in order to get the most out of a free
trade agreement with India when it's hopefully signed next year.
India's Commerce and Industry Minister was in the country last
week for the latest round of trade talks, which is
the fifth round of talks in just seven months. Edwin

(01:20:47):
Paul is the chair of the India New Zealand Business
Council and with us. Hello Edwin Killer, Heather, Hello you,
hell yeah, very welcome. Listen to you were in some
of the meetings. Do you reckon we can get a
deal done early next year?

Speaker 31 (01:21:01):
I think so, But I have to clarify my position.
So this is not an official position of any government
agency or the Business Council. But however, reading the room
and listening to the chatter, connecting the dots, it's a learned,
learned opinion on recognizing some very strong signals and I
think putting those things together it As a businessman, I

(01:21:22):
would say it's good to expect in an FTA sometime
in the early part of next year.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
Okay, Now, if we don't know what's going to be
in the FTA, how can a business prepare for business
with India?

Speaker 31 (01:21:35):
Oh, that's an excellent question. I mean, the contents of
the FTA itself is left to the experts. I don't
think even I'm qualified as a businessman to make any
opinion on that, So that's left to the negotiators. It
has farley asked implications. But what an FTR primarily provides
is market access. Market access to an economy that's currently

(01:21:56):
fifth in the world and to be the third largest
in by twenty third. So I think for any KIV
business at this stage is to think of not as
to what are the line items in the FDA, but
to prepare for what does the market of India offer
to my business and what opportunities lie there. This will
happen I mean six months, twelve months, whenever, But whenever

(01:22:18):
this happens, for it's good for New Zealand businesses to
have an India strategy and in anticipation of that market access.

Speaker 4 (01:22:27):
So basically, if you're already exporting to India, just basically
be prepared to export a whole lot more. Yeah.

Speaker 31 (01:22:33):
Yeah, And there could be a significant difference in your tariff.
For instance, if your current tariff was about thirty percent
on a product like honey and if it comes down
to fifteen, that's a very comfortable margin for an operator
to either person to the Inde consumer or to you know,
keep it as mild and the profits. So is fairly significant.

Speaker 4 (01:22:54):
From sitting in those meetings. Absolutely, it is. From sitting
in those meetings, do you think we're going to get
greater access to dary.

Speaker 31 (01:23:01):
Or I wouldn't want to do the comment on that, Heather,
simply because these are negotiations and these are happening in negotiations,
cards are kept quite quite close to the chest. I
don't want to risk any comment on this side, and
I don't think people who are not experts should be
weighing in on this. This is at a very big
The deal is pretty big, the overall deal, and there

(01:23:23):
are experts who are already at a very advanced stage.
And I wouldn't want to get into any sectoral conversations
on this sage.

Speaker 4 (01:23:31):
Here's the thing, right, the last time we rushed and
FTA was with Europe, and it was because just Cinda
wanted to be able to announce it while she was there,
and it turned to something, Oh, it is a bit
of a dog, isn't it is there?

Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
Are you?

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
Are you seeing the same thing?

Speaker 25 (01:23:44):
Like?

Speaker 4 (01:23:44):
Is there a risk here that by rushing it with
India we end up with something we regret?

Speaker 8 (01:23:49):
Oh?

Speaker 31 (01:23:50):
I don't think so specifically. I mean, I mean we
don't want to preasure the process in any way we do.
I don't think any of the players, both from the
India side and This is just my personal observation. The
leading of the room right, So both from the Indian
side on the New Zealand side, there is no pressure
to rush it. It's very complex negotiations, the frequency of
the negotiation, the rounds of negotiations. They've had five till now,

(01:24:12):
so those are all happening. So I don't think it
is being treated lightly. It's a fairly significant FDA and
all of us are prepared. I mean if I spoke
at one of those events when I told the minister
that we are prepared for even a no FTA situation.
But how India is a market or an FTA further
twelve months down the line. But reading the room and

(01:24:34):
how the stars are aligning and how the different aspects
are the dots are connected, I think it's going to
be fairly soon.

Speaker 4 (01:24:43):
Jared has a question for you. Do you have any
idea what India needs from us? They are to beefeating country,
they do not require dairy products, so what is.

Speaker 31 (01:24:49):
It, oh India. Treating India is a non not a
beefeeding country is a very naive assumption. I mean, if
you look kept the number of beef eaters alone in
India that would be more than the population of New Zealand.
That's the market, says, and those are the kind of

(01:25:10):
mindsets that TV businesses need to get over. I mean,
it's a huge market, a market that's larger than all
of your are put together. And we look at okay
beef if you're talking about prime cut beefs, there is
a market that's much bigger than New Zealand to supply.

Speaker 4 (01:25:25):
To brilliant when it's good to talk to you and
best of luck with everything. As Eden Paul, chair of
the Indian New Zealand Business Council, twenty away from seven
for cl Yeah, I'm fascinated by AI, as you know,
and I'm fascinated by what is going on the moment
because AI is trying very very hard well, the companies
that are running the AI obviously, especially the large language
models and stuff, trying very hard to make it safe
because obviously it's been a lot of bad publicity with

(01:25:47):
you know, AI assisting people with suicide and stuff like that.
So what they've done is that they've started to put
in some security measures to try to basically avoid people
using AI to do dangerous things like create gross, grubby,
creepy Gevin mix skimming images, do you know what I mean?
So what they've done is they've for and what I'm
about to tell you is how people get how easily

(01:26:09):
people get around it, which just makes you go, what's
the point?

Speaker 15 (01:26:12):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:26:12):
So what they've done is they've banned words like breasts
and lingerie some of the models if you're trying to
generate images, but you can use what's called algo text.
Algo text is a form of language. It refers to
basically what language is doing in order to be able
to accommodate computer algorithms. So algo text in this instance

(01:26:33):
is you don't write lingerie properly. You drop the e
off the back. And so if you drop the e
off the back, guess what it gives you pictures of lingerie.
So lingerie the word is is banned, but lingerie without
the e is not banned, and it will get you
what you want. How nuts is that you can instead?
If you can't use the word lingerie, people put in
just the lingerie brands. I don't want to drag them

(01:26:54):
into this, they're gonna hate it. But you can put
bend on in, for example, and it will basically do
the same thing. Words like the Kenny Speedo, bra and
underwear are band but there are numerous requests for women
or girls wearing spandex general yogawear, and using these prompts
often results in images of women dressed and revealing at
hire or nude, So that just goes to show how
hard that is to do, right Listen. I don't know

(01:27:17):
if you've been following this, but there's a thing going
on up north with the Wildlife Sanctuary with the lions
come more, and last week they announced that seven of
the lines are going to be put down because the
lines are old. Because basically what it is is the
land is up for sale, right, so if the land
is up for sale, then the Wildlife Sanctuary needs to move,
and then you need to move the lions. But the
lines are too old and the lines are too sick
to be moved, so they put a couple down, and

(01:27:38):
there are five more that they need to be put down.
And this is just flip people out. And so a
whole bunch of people have got together and they think
they think they may have enough money to buy the land.
Can I just gently suggest that we just leave the
lines and put the lines down, because this is not
being cold hearted. But lions are not supposed to be
in New Zealand and they are deaf, not supposed to

(01:28:01):
be in captivity. So you've got two options, right, You
put the lions down gently, that's the end of their lives,
have a peaceful exit from this world and off they
go and that's the end. Or we buy the Light
Light Land, we keep them alive. They live in their
misery because they're sore and they're old and they're sack
and they remain in captivity. Which of those two options

(01:28:21):
sounds better to you? They're going to die at some
point and they're not supposed This is not a happy
life for them. So I don't know, I know, I
do know. Just let the lions go seventeen away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
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Speaker 4 (01:28:43):
That'd be Heather. We've got a problem with wild dogs
in the far far North. Release the lions well sort
itself out, wouldn't it. Fourteen away from seven? Gavin Gray,
UK correspondence with US SALLO. Gavin hi have so Trump
will be happy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
Yeah, he is very very happy. This the resignations of
two senior people within the BBC, first of all the
big boss, the Director General, Tim Davies, and also the
head of News, Debra Urness, resigning as well. All this
over the editing of a documentary in which there was
one particular point at which they played a clip from

(01:29:20):
Donald Trump's speech on the sixth of January twenty twenty
one when it was appearing on the program as though
he told supporters he was going to walk to the
US Capitol with them to fight like hell. But what
had happened was they edited together two sound bites from
his speech and the sound bites were more than fifty

(01:29:41):
minutes apart. And this is really for any journalist an
absolutely criminal, you know, absolutely said a prime don't do this.
That you learn on day one about context of editing
things together and how it got passed and through the
BBC will that probably investigation is still underway. But the

(01:30:01):
BBC chair Samhan called it a very very difficult day
and thanked particularly the head of the News organization for
transforming the corporation's output for news. But welcome by Donald Trump.
Who's always called it fake news and has been criticized
in the BBC for, as he said, quote very dishonest

(01:30:23):
people who tried to step on the scales of a
presidential election. He posted that on truth Social Meanwhile, his
Press secretary Caroline Levitt posted a trumphant two word reaction
on X using the drinking term shot to describe reports
that the US president was going to war with fake
news and describing the resignation of the boss as a chaser,

(01:30:44):
a drink taken after the shot to soften the taste
of alcohol, and then added BBC is dying because they
are anti Trump fake news.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
Well, how much weight do these north sea oil workers
have to lose in order to stay in the jobs?

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Well, some of them quite a bit, and thousands actually
it is face losing their jobs because they've been told
that they have to weigh no more than one hundred
and twenty four point seven kilograms when clothed. And that
is because quite simply, there are new regulations that come
in from next February, so a year's time from the

(01:31:23):
Offshore Energy's UK, the industry body that says the maximum
clothed weight for a worker heading offshore should be one
hundred and twenty four point seven kilograms, that's nineteen and
a half stone, so they can be winched to safety
in an emergency. Now, the Coastguard rescue helicopter winchload is
made up of a figure plus the average weight of

(01:31:43):
a rescue worker and the stretcher and the kit. So
when you add all those together, you don't know more
than two hundred and forty nine kilograms and that they're
saying therefore is the maximum. The industry body said more
than two two hundred workers are currently above the weight
limit and jobs could therefore be lost if they don't

(01:32:05):
lose the weight. Now, the industry body says the average
weight of offshore workers has risen by almost ten kilograms
since two thousand and eight, and the decision to implement
a safe weight limit for those offshore workers on the
rigs across the North Sea that's to the north and
east of Scotland follows a review by industry experts over

(01:32:25):
the past two and a half decades. But yes, two
two hundred people told effectively dart or lose your job.

Speaker 4 (01:32:31):
To be fair one hundred and twenty k Jesus pretty
generous to them. I would have thought now on the homelessness.
It's a bigger problem that you guys actually realize.

Speaker 3 (01:32:38):
Right, Yes, that's right. New figures out from the charity
Crisis claim that it's a much bigger figure than is
currently being put about by the government. The charitysist the
number of people facing the worst forms of homelessness has
grown by a fifth in three years. They now say
that figure stands at three hundred thousand, and that is

(01:32:59):
basically they're saying the real figures is based on people
declaring themselves as homeless, which Crisis says does not you know,
always happen people are homeless, don't declare themselves as homeless,
and that's why they believe the figure is much worse
than it is and is getting much much worse quite fast.

(01:33:20):
They say it is quite unsuitable for people to be
put up in bed and breakfasts and properties far away
from family and friends. And they say an additional eighteen thousand,
six hundred families are living in what they call unconventional
accommodations such as in their cars or in sheds or intents.
So they are saying, yeah, these figures are big underestimate.

(01:33:41):
The government saying, look, We've invested some two billion New
Zealand dollars in homelessness in the last few years and
a big figure just year on year in the last
year two And they say they're doing their best, but yeah,
the charity makes that look like not enough and not
soon enough.

Speaker 4 (01:33:59):
Hi, Devin, thank you. Talk to you in a couple
of days. Gavin Gray, our UK correspondent. Right, I'm going
to talk about narcissism next nine away from seven.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
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Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
Okay, six away from seven. Now, you're not imagining it
if you think, jeez, I was like, do I want
to talk about this because I feel sometimes like we
beat up on the younger people. But then I think
we should just be objective about this. Okay, So you're
not imagining it if you feel like younger people are
more narcissistic today than when you were growing up. And
when I say younger people, I am talking about really

(01:34:39):
millennials down. So really my age down? You want to
I'm thinking like, not my age. I mean, obviously you
know I'm not like that. But if you go for
sort of like thirty five and down, I think, then
we're talking. That's the crowd I'm talking about.

Speaker 19 (01:34:53):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:34:53):
What has happened here is a couple of researchers have
studied narcissism. There was a tool that was created in
the late nineteen eighties and it measures narcissism. It's basically
got forty different little points, and each point has two
statements attached to it, and you choose which are the
statements you agree with most. So, for example, if I
ruled the world, it would be a better place. You
can choose that, or you can choose ruling the world

(01:35:15):
scares the hell out of me. Now, if you choose
the first one, if I ruled the world, it would
be a better place, you're narcissistic. So it goes through
and then it measures how narcissistic you are. And then
what they did is they looked at by the sounds
of things the eighties, the nineties and the two thousands
people who were a sort of American college age fifteen
thousand kids, and absolutely it has got worse as we've
got on the eighties, not so bad in the nineties,

(01:35:36):
not about the two thousands. Shocking, so narcissistic now it
is worth remembering generally you are narcissistic if you're eighteen
or nineteen. It's just the world revolves around you. But
it's definitely got worse, and they reckon. We're seeing it
in a whole bunch of different ways now. Plastic surgery,
you know, augmentation, life persuction, stuff like that had gone
through the roof in the last since the late nineties. Really,

(01:36:00):
the names that people give their kids apparently as a
sign of narcissism as well, because back in the nineteenth
century you just give them common names like Gertrude. Everybody's
a Gertrude, you know, everybody was a Pall or whatever.
And now we're all like weird little names. Every child's
got to have their own special name and be unique.
That's apparently sign of it. And also trouble in relationships.
If you can't hold down a marriage, yeah, it's narcissism.

(01:36:23):
There you go, tell you who's not narcissistic.

Speaker 16 (01:36:25):
Me.

Speaker 4 (01:36:26):
I'm going to give all the credit.

Speaker 1 (01:36:27):
Stop it.

Speaker 6 (01:36:28):
As I was going to say, yeah, how did you
answer the if I ruled the world question?

Speaker 4 (01:36:32):
It scares the hell out of me because I know
that I would make my life better but not anybody
everybody else's. But you have been the savior of so
many people's Christmas budgets today. Well done.

Speaker 6 (01:36:41):
You exactly proof that I should indeed be in charge
for the world. And I'll tell you what the Texas
on alcohol were coming down to. Anyway, She's somebody's daughter
by Drew Baldridge to play us out tonight. So obviously
a bit of a bit of a nightmare on Saturday
for people who are wanting to go to Jelly Roll
when he pulled out it last minute and for shell Wet,
Western Springs and Auckland. But Drew Bulldridge was the port
act for that and he was like, well, I can't

(01:37:02):
play support for Jelly Role now. So what he did
is he went to Joe Lane, which is a bar
in Ponsonby. They yanked a guitar off the wall for
him and he played an acoustic set there for everyone there,
and then he went down to the Civic to go
jump on stage and play it Kayley Bell's concert as well.
So good on you, Drew for doing your bit, even
though you your main gig was canceled or.

Speaker 4 (01:37:18):
A legend hither. I just checked the IID website and
found him owed four hundred and thirty six dollars. Thank you,
not me, thank ants, ants.

Speaker 6 (01:37:28):
And for President A.

Speaker 4 (01:37:30):
Simon, you meant Simon says I meant the twentieth century. No, Simon,
I did meet the nineteenth century. That would be eighteen
hundred and not that stupid. There's my narcissism. See tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:37:41):
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