November 11, 2025 • 6 mins
The BBC's chairman has denied claims the BBC is trying to bury accusations of bias, as Donald Trump threatens to sue the company.
A leaked BBC memo suggests the Panorama programme edited Trump’s speech to imply he encouraged the Capitol Hill riots of January 2021.
UK correspondent Enda Brady says it's likely the BBC will need to issue another apology - as the original didn't go far enough.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In the Brady UK correspondens with that's Allowinda.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hey, Heather good to speak again.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
So how do we write the chances that Trump actually
follows through on that suit?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, I'm not sure. The BBC currently has a billion
dollars in the bank just waiting for Donald Trump to
take it. It's a threat. And it's really interesting because
I just watched last night that movie The Apprentice, and
in the opening sequence where he meets the lawyer Cohen,
the lawyer says to a young Donald Trump, you got
(00:29):
to slap them with a lawsuit, and that's exactly what
he's done with the BBC here. So it's very interesting
the Trump playbook. And I think what we're going to
see is another apology from the BBC because yesterday I
don't think went far enough kind of a robust defense
of their journalism and that's all well and good, but
they've been caught redhanded here. Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Now, what I've noticed is you've got a lot of
defense and minimization that's going on here. I mean, there's
a whole bunch of people, Emily Matelis Lewis, all people
like that, all saying this is a hysteria and completely
overhyped and really not a big deal. What do you think.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I think it's a very big deal. It goes to
the absolute fundamental tenet of journalism, the facts. And they
whoever edited that Trump interview fifty four minutes was the
gap between the two clips, by the way, fifty four minutes.
So this was not something that was just done by accident.
This was done for dramatic purposes and to make him
(01:28):
look as if he was calling on people to go
to Capitol Hill and fight. And we all know what
happened that January day a few years back. I think
it's very, very bad. And I think the BBC response
last week, when day after day this was in the
papers one day after the other, and they were dithering
and there were meetings. I think the problem with the
(01:48):
BBC's layer upon layer of management. It's like an onion.
And having worked at Sky News for seventeen years, the
head guy who I worked for directly for seventeen years,
not only was his door always open, he actually took
the door off its hinges so he could interact with
people and there was no getting away from the guy.
(02:09):
If you're in an edit, sweet, he'd come in and
watch you work. You know, he was an amazing boss.
I learned so much from him. And I think what
the BBC struggle with is that the director General is
so far away from the average working member of staff
being able to say, Hey, Tim, I've got an idea.
You'll get as far as Tim's pa and she'll give
you a date sometime in April.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Now explain to me, then, Howard is that you have
people who I would consider to be highly respected journalists
making excuses. How you've got people saying this is some
sort of a clue going on instead of acknowledging what
it is.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Because I think they're BBC lifers and their entire career
has been built around the BBC and they don't want
to shake the boat. I think we need people now
to take a step back and realize this is very serious.
The most powerful man in the world and they, whether
people like Trump or Hay, they've made him say something
he categorically did not say, and it was done for
(03:05):
dramatic effect, and it was done to paint him in
the bad light in the run up to an election.
And what's he now saying electoral interference? I mean if
it was the other way around, if it was done
here that Keir Starmer had been chopped up and some
interview spliced together to make it look as if he'd
said something he hadn't, people would be up in arms.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah too, right, that's a very fit point. Now, explain
to me what's going on with Andrews's surname.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, it appears he's getting a new title. They're giving
him a hyphen. He will be Mount Batton Hyphen Windsor.
Now there's been a lot of discussion in the papers today.
Apparently his mother went to the Privy Council after he
was born in the sixties and made it clear that
she wanted the family surname to be Mount Batton Hyphen Windsor.
So eyebrows were raised the other week when he was
(03:51):
just a civilian given the Mountbatten Windsor and that he
would just be like everyone else because there was no
hyphen in there. It was his mother's wish that the
hyphen be included. So another Andrew's story in the papers today. Yeah,
I mean he's probably glad of the BBC at the moment.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Hey, what what does it matter with his hyphen or not?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't get it true. Oh look, I think you
need to be of certain British aristocratic stock, and there
will be some incredible story from the seventeen eighties about
some lord who came up with the idea to have
a hyphen, and then there was a feudal row with
his brother or cousin over the hyphen.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I mean, it's just got a hyphen, India, does that
mean I'm fleshed?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I think you're postured and I thought you were.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Ah in, thank you Inda hyphen, Brady appreciated UK correspondent. Apparently, actually,
though I do have a hyphen, actually did the hyphen myself. Long, long,
long story, but was actually born Ellen. So my name
is Hara Allan, like a proper Scottish name, like Allen.
But then, of course, oh lord, here we're getting into it.
(05:00):
So now I'm giving you the story. Okay. So then
what happened was my dad nicked off back to New
Zealand when I was about five years old or something like,
maybe even a younger than I might have No, I
was five, my brother was three, and so my mum
raised us right, and so she's the duplacy, she's the
South African and so I was like, hey, listen, let's
honor the lady who did all the hard work here.
So I took my mum's surname and then I hyphenated
(05:22):
it with my dad's. My brother was just like an
ut bugger this all together, and so he just dropped
the all and all together and just went for my
mum's surname douplacy anyway. Anyway, so I thought I was
a bit flash for a bit there. I was like, hm, hm,
I've got a hyphen, big deal. But now I'm reading
I've read, Well, look at all the like rugby league players.
They've all got hyphens, haven't they, Charms, nicol klock Start,
et cetera. You're hardly going to say that a rugby
(05:44):
league player is an aristocratic I'm not casting aspersions. I'm
just like, it's just a fact. So what's happened is
that the hyphen, which was once the height of aristocracy,
is now basically just like a middle class like thing.
Everybody has it now. So if you've got a hyphen,
like me, get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's nef For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen
live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio,
In the Brady UK correspondens with that's Allowinda.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Hey, Heather good to speak again.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
So how do we write the chances that Trump actually
follows through on that suit?
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Well, I'm not sure. The BBC currently has a billion
dollars in the bank just waiting for Donald Trump to
take it. It's a threat. And it's really interesting because
I just watched last night that movie The Apprentice, and
in the opening sequence where he meets the lawyer Cohen,
the lawyer says to a young Donald Trump, you got
(00:29):
to slap them with a lawsuit, and that's exactly what
he's done with the BBC here. So it's very interesting
the Trump playbook. And I think what we're going to
see is another apology from the BBC because yesterday I
don't think went far enough kind of a robust defense
of their journalism and that's all well and good, but
they've been caught redhanded here. Okay.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Now, what I've noticed is you've got a lot of
defense and minimization that's going on here. I mean, there's
a whole bunch of people, Emily Matelis Lewis, all people
like that, all saying this is a hysteria and completely
overhyped and really not a big deal. What do you think.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I think it's a very big deal. It goes to
the absolute fundamental tenet of journalism, the facts. And they
whoever edited that Trump interview fifty four minutes was the
gap between the two clips, by the way, fifty four minutes.
So this was not something that was just done by accident.
This was done for dramatic purposes and to make him
(01:28):
look as if he was calling on people to go
to Capitol Hill and fight. And we all know what
happened that January day a few years back. I think
it's very, very bad. And I think the BBC response
last week, when day after day this was in the
papers one day after the other, and they were dithering
and there were meetings. I think the problem with the
(01:48):
BBC's layer upon layer of management. It's like an onion.
And having worked at Sky News for seventeen years, the
head guy who I worked for directly for seventeen years,
not only was his door always open, he actually took
the door off its hinges so he could interact with
people and there was no getting away from the guy.
(02:09):
If you're in an edit, sweet, he'd come in and
watch you work. You know, he was an amazing boss.
I learned so much from him. And I think what
the BBC struggle with is that the director General is
so far away from the average working member of staff
being able to say, Hey, Tim, I've got an idea.
You'll get as far as Tim's pa and she'll give
you a date sometime in April.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Now explain to me, then, Howard is that you have
people who I would consider to be highly respected journalists
making excuses. How you've got people saying this is some
sort of a clue going on instead of acknowledging what
it is.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Because I think they're BBC lifers and their entire career
has been built around the BBC and they don't want
to shake the boat. I think we need people now
to take a step back and realize this is very serious.
The most powerful man in the world and they, whether
people like Trump or Hay, they've made him say something
he categorically did not say, and it was done for
(03:05):
dramatic effect, and it was done to paint him in
the bad light in the run up to an election.
And what's he now saying electoral interference? I mean if
it was the other way around, if it was done
here that Keir Starmer had been chopped up and some
interview spliced together to make it look as if he'd
said something he hadn't, people would be up in arms.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Yeah too, right, that's a very fit point. Now, explain
to me what's going on with Andrews's surname.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, it appears he's getting a new title. They're giving
him a hyphen. He will be Mount Batton Hyphen Windsor.
Now there's been a lot of discussion in the papers today.
Apparently his mother went to the Privy Council after he
was born in the sixties and made it clear that
she wanted the family surname to be Mount Batton Hyphen Windsor.
So eyebrows were raised the other week when he was
(03:51):
just a civilian given the Mountbatten Windsor and that he
would just be like everyone else because there was no
hyphen in there. It was his mother's wish that the
hyphen be included. So another Andrew's story in the papers today. Yeah,
I mean he's probably glad of the BBC at the moment.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Hey, what what does it matter with his hyphen or not?
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I don't get it true. Oh look, I think you
need to be of certain British aristocratic stock, and there
will be some incredible story from the seventeen eighties about
some lord who came up with the idea to have
a hyphen, and then there was a feudal row with
his brother or cousin over the hyphen.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I mean, it's just got a hyphen, India, does that
mean I'm fleshed?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
I think you're postured and I thought you were.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Ah in, thank you Inda hyphen, Brady appreciated UK correspondent. Apparently, actually,
though I do have a hyphen, actually did the hyphen myself. Long, long,
long story, but was actually born Ellen. So my name
is Hara Allan, like a proper Scottish name, like Allen.
But then, of course, oh lord, here we're getting into it.
(05:00):
So now I'm giving you the story. Okay. So then
what happened was my dad nicked off back to New
Zealand when I was about five years old or something like,
maybe even a younger than I might have No, I
was five, my brother was three, and so my mum
raised us right, and so she's the duplacy, she's the
South African and so I was like, hey, listen, let's
honor the lady who did all the hard work here.
So I took my mum's surname and then I hyphenated
(05:22):
it with my dad's. My brother was just like an
ut bugger this all together, and so he just dropped
the all and all together and just went for my
mum's surname douplacy anyway. Anyway, so I thought I was
a bit flash for a bit there. I was like, hm, hm,
I've got a hyphen, big deal. But now I'm reading
I've read, Well, look at all the like rugby league players.
They've all got hyphens, haven't they, Charms, nicol klock Start,
et cetera. You're hardly going to say that a rugby
(05:44):
league player is an aristocratic I'm not casting aspersions. I'm
just like, it's just a fact. So what's happened is
that the hyphen, which was once the height of aristocracy,
is now basically just like a middle class like thing.
Everybody has it now. So if you've got a hyphen,
like me, get rid of it.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
It's nef For more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive, listen
live to news talks. It'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio,
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